The Future

[sadoldgit]

We have recently had a respected old fan post a nostaligic thread.

 

No harm in that you might think......

 

Trouble is, we are not living in the 60's or 70's or 80's.

 

The glory days are WELL behind us.

 

Our squad is the weakest in many decades. Finacially we are screwed.

 

We need to a) avoid administration and b) avoid relegation.

 

For all of the pontification on here the only way of avoiding a) is to run the club prudently and b) for everyone to get behind SFC.

 

The Alpines, Fitzhugh Fellas, the Stanleys have their followers, but it is the Nicks and the Frank's Cousins who talk common sense and whose opions are better palced to take SFC forward.

 

Knee jerk reactionaries have always been 5 minute wonders.

 

What we need is common sense and pragmatism.

 

I have spent hours on here (with others) trying to get the debate back to some middle ground only to be labelled a Lowe Lovvie by the blinkered and by Um Pahars a "fool".

 

What people have to realise is that they are disappearing up their own backsides with all of this reactionary rubbish.

 

The "good old days" are well behind us. We need to live in the real world.

 

There are, thank God, a few posters who can see that.

 

The others need to get their head out of their rectums and deal with what is, not with what was.

 

So......what are the reactionaries going to do? Carry on boring the sh*t out of people or come into the real world?

[Ponty]

The trouble is, posts like yours may be well-meaning but they only perpetuate the problems on here. You accuse others of pontification and then are as guilty of it yourself.

 

FWIW, I agree that a knee-jerk reaction isn't what's needed, but it's a 'luxury' afforded by the internet. The reactions may often be swift and ill thought out but they're only text, no one's outside SMS with flaming torches, so where's the harm?

[RoswellSaint]

On a cold winter's night, wherever we are in the world, what is wrong with some nostalgia to cheer us up? I think everyone realises we are in a tough situation and things are not what they were. There are plenty of threads pontificating on how to put things right. There is room for one or two looking back on the good old days. Those are the days that made us all Saints fans.

[Saint in Paradise]

The trouble is, posts like yours may be well-meaning but they only perpetuate the problems on here. You accuse others of pontification and then are as guilty of it yourself.

 

FWIW, I agree that a knee-jerk reaction isn't what's needed, but it's a 'luxury' afforded by the internet. The reactions may often be swift and ill thought out but they're only text, no one's outside SMS with flaming torches, so where's the harm?

 

 

Perhaps there should be

[Andy Durman]

We have recently had a respected old fan post a nostaligic thread.

 

No harm in that you might think......

 

Trouble is, we are not living in the 60's or 70's or 80's.

 

The glory days are WELL behind us.

 

Our squad is the weakest in many decades. Finacially we are screwed.

 

We need to a) avoid administration and b) avoid relegation.

 

For all of the pontification on here the only way of avoiding a) is to run the club prudently and b) for everyone to get behind SFC.

 

The Alpines, Fitzhugh Fellas, the Stanleys have their followers, but it is the Nicks and the Frank's Cousins who talk common sense and whose opions are better palced to take SFC forward.

 

Knee jerk reactionaries have always been 5 minute wonders.

 

What we need is common sense and pragmatism.

 

I have spent hours on here (with others) trying to get the debate back to some middle ground only to be labelled a Lowe Lovvie by the blinkered and by Um Pahars a "fool".

 

What people have to realise is that they are disappearing up their own backsides with all of this reactionary rubbish.

 

The "good old days" are well behind us. We need to live in the real world.

 

There are, thank God, a few posters who can see that.

 

The others need to get their head out of their rectums and deal with what is, not with what was.

 

So......what are the reactionaries going to do? Carry on boring the sh*t out of people or come into the real world?

 

Whilst I would not have put it this way I generally agree with your post, but if we have no future then all we will shortly have is our memories

[Mole]

For all of the pontification on here the only way of avoiding a) is to run the club prudently and b) for everyone to get behind SFC.

 

The Alpines, Fitzhugh Fellas, the Stanleys have their followers, but it is the Nicks and the Frank's Cousins who talk common sense and whose opions are better palced to take SFC forward.

 

I have spent hours on here (with others) trying to get the debate back to some middle ground only to be labelled a Lowe Lovvie by the blinkered and by Um Pahars a "fool".

 

Stay at home Bern giving lectures about getting behind SFC - i've heard it all now.

 

You are losing the plot.

[alpine_saint]

Can I suggest a mod lock this thread and issue an infraction, since the entire purpose of it is only to mount a thinly-veilled attack on those people whom SOGGY disagrees with ? It name drops, and is abusive.

 

I thought threads purely to attack individuals were against site rules ?

Edited 15 January, 2009 by alpine_saint

[Right sider]

The problem as I see it was the big gamble, call it a knee jerk if you like, that happenened in the summer when the club decided to let Pearson go. And then to embark on a grand experiment.

 

I dare say it was intended to have all of the football community watch in awe of our great bravado. Problem is that the total football approach is not working. With the players at our disposal then a simple back to basics strategy should've been employed. The reasoning for going with this group of players was that the nucleus of the side had played together through the youth and reserve teams. Why then change the system they play to when it really matters - in the first team.

 

Yes we play pretty football in two thirds of the pitch but this league needs a bit of bite and a leader on the pitch. We need an English manager who understands the league and knows what is required to do well in it. Our problem will probably be compounded as RL will sack JP in February so the new man couldn't use the transfer window. (conjecture)

 

Look at alot of teams who have done well in this league, I'll take Pompey as an example, they were stuck where we are for a few years then brought in Prosinecki and did better. The following year they got Merson and it took off for them. That all happened when Harry went in as manager.

 

A change now would not be a knee jerk reaction, it is waking up to what we need and stopping this crazy folly of Dutch total football, scary thing is I'd even consider getting GB back at the moment. And for me that is not nostalgia!

[Mole]

Can I suggest a mod lock this thread and issue an infraction, since the entire purpose of it is only to mount a thinly-veilled attack on those people whom SOGGY disagrees with ? It name drops, and is abusive.

 

I thought threads purely to attack individuals were against site rules ?

 

Edit:

 

**** it, i can't be arsed to go down the tit for tat route ths time.

Edited 15 January, 2009 by Mole

[um pahars]

We have recently had a respected old fan post a nostaligic thread.

 

No harm in that you might think......

 

And that's exactly what I and many others thought when they contributed to quite a lengthy thread with hardly any b*tching, in that here is a thread we can happily add some great stories to and maybe get away from the drudgery of what we face today (be it football on the pitch, stuff off the pitch, fan attacking fan etc etc etc).

 

Football is as much about the past as it is about the present and you only have to look at threads and posts which refer back to older days (good or bad) to see how much of an impact it has on supporters.

 

Rather than post this thread, you would have been better to contribute a story where you my have encountered a Saints player in the past that made a positive impact on your life.

[alpine_saint]

It wouldn't suprise me if SOG was instructed to "refresh" the debate by his mates on "Saintsfans" (the secret forum that Ruperts Rat Pack use to plan their next move). They are a rather strange bunch who try to find stuff out about posters etc. I can expand on this point if SOG challenges me to do so.

 

I cannot answer to that fact, but I received an infraction a little while ago for using almost identical terminology that SOGGY has here, so I have reported this thread AND started a new thread on the "suggestions for the forum" sub-board asking how reported posts are dealt with

 

I am fed up with the hypocrisy and double standards on here.

[Mole]

I cannot answer to that fact, but I received an infraction a little while ago for using almost identical terminology that SOGGY has here, so I have reported this thread AND started a new thread on the "suggestions for the forum" sub-board asking how reported posts are dealt with

 

I am fed up with the hypocrisy and double standards on here.

 

I think SOG may well have been on the beer by the looks of it. If you reported the post it's a bit sad imo and makes you as bad as them.

[alpine_saint]

I think SOG may well have been on the beer by the looks of it. If you reported the post it's a bit sad imo and makes you as bad as them.

 

Why ? I get it all the time done to me by people trying to snuff out dissent on here.

[Teddy Nutkins]

You know what S.O.G, i make no-apology for adding a couple of posts to Duncan's thread and i'll tell you for why.........I am tired of hearing the same old people arguing over the same old problems that have happened to this club over the past few years, and if it cheers me up to read about the past then that is up to me. I no-longer join in with the blame threads

By all means carry on.

[chocco boxo]

Life in the past is always best as we know what has happened and whether we enjoyed it?

The future is probably worse!

[Mole]

Just seen SOG's other posts about me. If that's how he wants to play it thats fine by me.

[obelisk]

Looking to the past and basking in a warm glow of happy memories is surely something well do. I know I like nothing better than to chew over good old days when down the pub so why not the same on a message board. It certainly takes the mind of the seemingly pointless rage at our powerlessness to affect current events, be they to do with Saints, bankers or those scoundrels that like to call themselves politicians.

 

And there's another thing. It's all very well looking to the future but to do so while ignoring events of the past is to go blindly forward.

[Fowllyd]

Am I missing something here? I thought this was an internet forum, nothing more than that. What's said on here has no effect on SFC. If posters on here launch a vast and spectacular b1tch-fest before Saturday, will it make us more or less likely to win against Doncaster? The simple answer is neither - because posts on here have no effect whatsoever on the team's performance.

 

If anybody chooses not to attend home games, that's their choice and theirs alone - I find it hard to believe that they're doing it because they saw a post on here. Added to which, as far as I'm aware many posters on here who are strongly opposed to the current regime at Saints attend matches - isn't that what's meant by getting behind SFC? Or is their support of the team somehow devalued because they don't like the chairman?

[thorpie the sinner]

I think we need the nostalgic memories to remind us of what a great club we are! It is still there, it has just lost its way a bit!!! it is exactly these kind of memories and reminiscence that makes us realise we have a club worth fighting for in these dark times. As far as the future is concerned, i will settle for three points on sat!!!

[Gingeletiss]

I think that given SOG's other posts, that he in fact, is not a Saints fan, but a wind up merchant from down the road. I two agree that this was a veiled attack, and as such, should be dealt with.

[AndyNorthernSaints]

I cannot answer to that fact, but I received an infraction a little while ago for using almost identical terminology that SOGGY has here, so I have reported this thread AND started a new thread on the "suggestions for the forum" sub-board asking how reported posts are dealt with

 

I am fed up with the hypocrisy and double standards on here.

 

At the end of the day, there are more important things in life than an internet forum.

[Saint Billy]

We have recently had a respected old fan post a nostaligic thread.

 

No harm in that you might think......

 

Trouble is, we are not living in the 60's or 70's or 80's.

 

The glory days are WELL behind us.

 

Our squad is the weakest in many decades. Finacially we are screwed.

 

We need to a) avoid administration and b) avoid relegation.

 

For all of the pontification on here the only way of avoiding a) is to run the club prudently and b) for everyone to get behind SFC.

 

The Alpines, Fitzhugh Fellas, the Stanleys have their followers, but it is the Nicks and the Frank's Cousins who talk common sense and whose opions are better palced to take SFC forward.

 

Knee jerk reactionaries have always been 5 minute wonders.

 

What we need is common sense and pragmatism.

 

I have spent hours on here (with others) trying to get the debate back to some middle ground only to be labelled a Lowe Lovvie by the blinkered and by Um Pahars a "fool".

 

What people have to realise is that they are disappearing up their own backsides with all of this reactionary rubbish.

 

The "good old days" are well behind us. We need to live in the real world.

 

There are, thank God, a few posters who can see that.

 

The others need to get their head out of their rectums and deal with what is, not with what was.

 

So......what are the reactionaries going to do? Carry on boring the sh*t out of people or come into the real world?

 

:smt078

 

Hope your proud of that post SOG, must have taking you all of 5 minutes to copy Sundunce's.

[aintforever]

What we need is common sense and pragmatism.

 

Where does a crazy Dutch total football experiment fit in with this rationale?!?

[Saint in Paradise]

You know what S.O.G, i make no-apology for adding a couple of posts to Duncan's thread and i'll tell you for why.........I am tired of hearing the same old people arguing over the same old problems that have happened to this club over the past few years, and if it cheers me up to read about the past then that is up to me. I no-longer join in with the blame threads

By all means carry on.

 

 

PLEASE post some more, I always enjoy reading about past times at Saints from someone

who was actually involved personally.

[Toomer]

One of the best ever threads on any version of this forum was the Soul Cellar thread till it got hi-jacked by certain posters.

[belgrave]

Bit of a flawed argument SOG...

 

What does 75% of "down the pub" or "around the dinner table" conversation have as a basis ?

 

Things that have happened previously - either shared experiences or individual experiences that the other parties to the conversation have had.

 

Sure, you might spend 25% of the time talking about the future, be it how to remove Lowe, how to fix Saints, a new investment strategy, this years holiday...etc, but the bulk of the time you will, in one way or another, be reminiscing and embroidering.

 

You try, next time you are with a group of acquaintances purely talking about the future. The conversation will be like one you have with your hairdresser or dentist..."where are you going on holiday this year....etc." Not generally a barell of laughs....

[INFLUENCED.COM]

"noone ever hurt their eyes by looking at the brighter side of life"

[JohnnyFartPants]

Just seen SOG's other posts about me. If that's how he wants to play it thats fine by me.

 

That sounds like fighting talk to me. Well, nerdy innernet fighting talk, sort of geekoid fighting talk in a "I am typing furiously and feeling important" type of way.

 

Jesus, you are a drama Queen.

[Scudamore]

That sounds like fighting talk to me. Well, nerdy innernet fighting talk, sort of geekoid fighting talk in a "I am typing furiously and feeling important" type of way.

 

Jesus, you are a drama Queen.

 

You can be his drama King

[JohnnyFartPants]

You can be his drama King

 

Brillo!

[Scudamore]

Now get in the kitchen Stanley and make JFP a nice sandwich...there's a good dear...

[Weston Saint]

To be honest I am fed up with all this back biting. OK we have different opinions but they can be debated sensibly without retorting to sarcastic coments.

 

There is too much of it on this forum and it is unnecessary. The original poster is as much to blame as many others. So many interesting threads are ruined by a certain group of people from both ends of the spectrum who just cannot get away from this boring habit.

 

So someone gets facts wrong, someone has an opinion out of kink with the majority. So what! Debate it by all means but keep it civil at least without snide comments.

 

And those who post just to get posters backs up, they know who they are......best form of criticism is to ignore. I do.

[Give it to Ron]

We have recently had a respected old fan post a nostaligic thread.

 

No harm in that you might think......

 

Trouble is, we are not living in the 60's or 70's or 80's.

 

The glory days are WELL behind us.

 

Our squad is the weakest in many decades. Finacially we are screwed.

 

We need to a) avoid administration and b) avoid relegation.

 

For all of the pontification on here the only way of avoiding a) is to run the club prudently and b) for everyone to get behind SFC.

 

The Alpines, Fitzhugh Fellas, the Stanleys have their followers, but it is the Nicks and the Frank's Cousins who talk common sense and whose opions are better palced to take SFC forward.

 

Knee jerk reactionaries have always been 5 minute wonders.

 

What we need is common sense and pragmatism.

 

I have spent hours on here (with others) trying to get the debate back to some middle ground only to be labelled a Lowe Lovvie by the blinkered and by Um Pahars a "fool".

 

What people have to realise is that they are disappearing up their own backsides with all of this reactionary rubbish.

 

The "good old days" are well behind us. We need to live in the real world.

 

There are, thank God, a few posters who can see that.

 

The others need to get their head out of their rectums and deal with what is, not with what was.

 

So......what are the reactionaries going to do? Carry on boring the sh*t out of people or come into the real world?

 

Would Ron Davies of had the support from the people on here without a nostalgic thread being raised?

There are nearly 200 replies and nearly 5,000 views on that thread so I think its you that are way off .......as usual.

Well done troll you got what you wanted responses.

[saint1977]

That's the spirit!

 

Firstly, what's wrong with looking back and remembering some of the great players and matches? Doesn't have to be a rough spell to enjoy that. Football clubs are made up of history, nostalgia and memories, that's why they mean so much to so many people.

 

We're dealing with the present all we can, no-one is pretending it's easy, but to say the good days are behind us is ridiculous. People have been looking back over 30, 40, 50+ years, so for anyone to claim they know what the next equivalent periods hold is ridiculous. I imagine we'll have a lot more ups and downs, we might even surpass our previous history. Christ, look at Pompey, not so long ago parading players on the pitch with price tags as everyone was for sale to stop them going bust...just a poor CCC side with a far far more bleak recent history than our own, yet they got up and won the FA Cup. There's always hope and being "realistic" about the future doesn't have to involve being such a miserable bastard about it.

 

Good reply and that of Weston below it as well. F ucking Hell, does a thread on some of the greatest ever players to pull on a Saints shirt hurt anybody? Besides, for people like me that have moved out of Soton and only return for visiting family/friends and Saints games, it's a nice reminder of when I was younger and is a way of finding out what people are up to. Sour Old Grapes should be your username. I don't want to get into the whole Lowe thing again, I'm sick of it.

[JohnnyFartPants]

To be honest I am fed up with all this back biting. OK we have different opinions but they can be debated sensibly without retorting to sarcastic coments.

 

There is too much of it on this forum and it is unnecessary. The original poster is as much to blame as many others. So many interesting threads are ruined by a certain group of people from both ends of the spectrum who just cannot get away from this boring habit.

 

So someone gets facts wrong, someone has an opinion out of kink with the majority. So what! Debate it by all means but keep it civil at least without snide comments.

 

And those who post just to get posters backs up, they know who they are......best form of criticism is to ignore. I do.

 

Oooh, can they now, ducky.

[saint1977]

In response to the original point, I don't see why one has to agree with everything Fitzhugh says (it would be odd to agree on every opinion with anyone) in order to enjoy the nostalgic thread. It was a pleasant change amongst many of the threads on here and what harm in looking back when you've had so many great players and characters at the club. Whether we were brilliant or awful now, those players would still be worth remembering.

 

Spot on and many of them still follow Saints as well long after they have finished playing for us. There is way too much intolerance and myopic posting on here with no regard for different opinions and perspectives however reasonably and fairly they may be expressed. When I get frustrated is when I see blatant re-writing of history just to wind people up and BOTH sides do it. Granted, sometimes we get a bit OTT because the club is in our blood - I've been brought up on it - but all I want is 3 points on Saturday and that is true of 95% of people posting on here.

[SaintRobbie]

I think Fitzhugh has reminded us that this Club IS still great.

 

I think people who seemed resigned to our downfall and are content to follow a man as divisive and arrogant as Lowe in the folly he has presented and spun as a last chance to avoid administration are niave in the extreme. I think people who forget that this is a football club - or at least was once - and are content to support a failed public limited company forget the essence of what a football team really is and represents.

 

Duncan's sticky on the golden years reminds us of what we were until recently coming under the control of the plc and it divisive leadership. It reminds us that it was not long ago. It reminds us that with change we do not have to roll over and accept Lowe's plc survival plan.

 

I'm sorry, but this club IS great. It represents Southampton and is the pride of every Saints fan who walks into work and defends his or her club against others mocking. It will be great again, it can be sold.

 

Sadoldgit means well, but accepting this new Lowe-ism is going to save the club and that we are a nothing club anymore is frankly suicide. It is certainly no way to run a competitive - success craving bunch of sporting athletes... and in that vain you sadoldgot whether you like it or not appear to me to be drawing from Lowe's leadership.

 

It is not inevitable that this club will not be great again. It is not over.

 

All we need to do is SELL the club. Now, some may be incipid and defeatist and say, 'but there's a credit crunch' or 'who'd want to buy this crap?' ... I say lots of people and what's more I say;

 

'Has anyone bothered to try and FIND a buyer since Hone and Hoos (who were successful in finding SISU)?'

 

Answer - no.

 

Now - we can die and accept Lowe's here to stay and lead the club further SOUTH or we can seak a buyer.

 

My message - form a sales team - MLT, Lawrie, Legends (the great irrelevants according to sadoldgit!!), Crouch, Wilde, Steve Grant, Illingworth, Chorley, Duncan, Southampton City Council, Local MP,... frankly I dont care... but form a diverse sales team with ONE aim... SELLING THE CLUB. And if it falls through first time - keep searching and keep searching.

 

We CAN be back in the Premiership in 2-3 years. We need desire and passion back in this Club not a bunch of defeated Lowe-bashed fans who are content with their lot. No wonder our team has the winning mentality of the Italian Army.

 

******** - DO SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE. STOP ROLLING OVER.

 

Get Lowe out and get a new owner - GET ONE.

[alpine_saint]

I think Fitzhugh has reminded us that this Club IS still great.

 

I think people who seemed resigned to our downfall and are content to follow a man as divisive and arrogant as Lowe in the folly he has presented and spun as a last chance to avoid administration are niave in the extreme. I think people who forget that this is a football club - or at least was once - and are content to support a failed public limited company forget the essence of what a football team really is and represents.

 

Duncan's sticky on the golden years reminds us of what we were until recently coming under the control of the plc and it divisive leadership. It reminds us that it was not long ago. It reminds us that with change we do not have to roll over and accept Lowe's plc survival plan.

 

I'm sorry, but this club IS great. It represents Southampton and is the pride of every Saints fan who walks into work and defends his or her club against others mocking. It will be great again, it can be sold.

 

 

Completely agree.

 

The original post on this thread expresses sentiments not very far away from taking down a picture from the boardroom wall of the only manager in the club's history to have ever won anything, holding said trophy...

 

It seems to me that certain individuals and officers of the club resent the nostalgia for better times because it does nothing more complex than utterly show up what a piiss-poor job the said offers of the club are doing now..

[Toomer]

Completely agree.

 

The original post on this thread expresses sentiments not very far away from taking down a picture from the boardroom wall of the only manager in the club's history to have ever won anything, holding said trophy...

 

It seems to me that certain individuals and officers of the club resent the nostalgia for better times because it does nothing more complex than utterly show up what a piiss-poor job the said offers of the club are doing now..

 

I'm all for naming the gates/turnstiles round St Marys after the 76 side how much better would it sound, entrance to the ground through the Stokes, Channon or Osgood gate rather than turnstile A, B or, C.

[Fowllyd]

I'm all for naming the gates/turnstiles round St Marys after the 76 side how much better would it sound, entrance to the ground through the Stokes, Channon or Osgood gate rather than turnstile A, B or, C.

 

I think that's a brilliant idea.

[Scudamore]

I'm all for naming the gates/turnstiles round St Marys after the 76 side how much better would it sound, entrance to the ground through the Stokes, Channon or Osgood gate rather than turnstile A, B or, C.

 

Nice enough idea. But A follows B follows C. And for our learned away fan chums this kind of keeps things simple. And for the knuckle dragging northerners they need it kept simple. Maybe the letter then the name would be a better option?

[Toomer]

Nice enough idea. But A follows B follows C. And for our learned away fan chums this kind of keeps things simple. And for the knuckle dragging northerners they need it kept simple. Maybe the letter then the name would be a better option?

 

General rule of thumb there are two turnstiles together, the ticket could say entrance by turnstiles A & B the Stokes gate.

[chocco boxo]

What about a turnstile/gate named after all our recent Managers or would a revolving door be better?

The Svensson gate would be forever closed for repairs!

[Scudamore]

General rule of thumb there are two turnstiles together, the ticket could say entrance by turnstiles A & B the Stokes gate.

 

I believe that is Amy Gate? But yes...works for me...

[alpine_saint]

Didn't understand why no stands were named after players. As if Itchen, Northam, Kingsland and Chapel are such good names. Le Tissier deserved more after his contribution. Still think it's crap we have to wait another 40 years or more for a statue of the guy. Is there some problem about doing it when the people are alive?!

 

It does sound a bit odd, imo.

[Scummer]

It does sound a bit odd, imo.

 

I guess the worry would be that they'd make a statue, and then a week later agree to become Pompey manager.

 

Or get arrested for murder, or get outed by the NOTW as a paedo, something like that.

 

Please note I am not suggesting that MLT would do/is any of these things, but that would be the basic rationale behind waiting until someone dies before putting up a statue/ naming a stand etc.

[Windmill Arm 2]

We have recently had a respected old fan post a nostaligic thread.

 

No harm in that you might think......

 

Trouble is, we are not living in the 60's or 70's or 80's.

 

The glory days are WELL behind us.

 

Our squad is the weakest in many decades. Finacially we are screwed.

 

We need to a) avoid administration and b) avoid relegation.

 

For all of the pontification on here the only way of avoiding a) is to run the club prudently and b) for everyone to get behind SFC.

 

The Alpines, Fitzhugh Fellas, the Stanleys have their followers, but it is the Nicks and the Frank's Cousins who talk common sense and whose opions are better palced to take SFC forward.

 

Knee jerk reactionaries have always been 5 minute wonders.

 

What we need is common sense and pragmatism.

 

I have spent hours on here (with others) trying to get the debate back to some middle ground only to be labelled a Lowe Lovvie by the blinkered and by Um Pahars a "fool".

 

What people have to realise is that they are:smt044 disappearing up their own backsides with all of this reactionary rubbish. :smt044

The "good old days" are well behind us. We need to live in the real world.

 

There are, thank God, a few posters who can see that.

 

:smt044The others need to get their head out of their rectums and deal with what is, not with what was.:smt044

 

So......what are the reactionaries going to do? Carry on boring the sh*t out of people or come into the real world?

 

 

Saddo, this is the most pompous crap i've ever read. Other people have their heads up their rectums because they dont agree with you?

It seems to me that you have your head (and tongue) firmly placed up Franks cousin, and the Nicks G and H's arses.

Are you seriously suggesting that Alpine and others (myself included) are not in the real world? he's been saying it how it is for years, only to be slated time and again. :smt078

Taxi for Saddo!

[SaintRobbie]

Didn't understand why no stands were named after players. As if Itchen, Northam, Kingsland and Chapel are such good names. Le Tissier deserved more after his contribution. Still think it's crap we have to wait another 40 years or more for a statue of the guy. Is there some problem about doing it when the people are alive?!

 

We need a statue right now of MLT in my opinion.

 

It needs to be put slightly back from Ted Bates, slightly smaller - eg a bust - and be next to the players entrance so they pass it every game. It should have LOYALTY enscribed on the plinth.

[Gordon Mockles]

We have recently had a respected old fan post a nostaligic thread.

 

No harm in that you might think......

 

Trouble is, we are not living in the 60's or 70's or 80's.

 

The glory days are WELL behind us.

 

Our squad is the weakest in many decades. Finacially we are screwed.

 

We need to a) avoid administration and b) avoid relegation.

 

For all of the pontification on here the only way of avoiding a) is to run the club prudently and b) for everyone to get behind SFC.

 

The Alpines, Fitzhugh Fellas, the Stanleys have their followers, but it is the Nicks and the Frank's Cousins who talk common sense and whose opions are better palced to take SFC forward.

 

Knee jerk reactionaries have always been 5 minute wonders.

 

What we need is common sense and pragmatism.

 

I have spent hours on here (with others) trying to get the debate back to some middle ground only to be labelled a Lowe Lovvie by the blinkered and by Um Pahars a "fool".

 

What people have to realise is that they are disappearing up their own backsides with all of this reactionary rubbish.

 

The "good old days" are well behind us. We need to live in the real world.

 

There are, thank God, a few posters who can see that.

 

The others need to get their head out of their rectums and deal with what is, not with what was.

 

So......what are the reactionaries going to do? Carry on boring the sh*t out of people or come into the real world?

 

It would be better if these fore-mentioned, self-righteous “common sense” supporters actually went to the games and supported the team they purport to support rather than pompously pontificate!

 

Next thing you know, the ‘common sense gang’ will be praising George Burley. Whatever next?

 

For what it’s worth, I think a nostalgia thread is pretty well placed in the current climate. The actually reality of Southampton Football Club is shocking as we sit at the cusp of total annihilation.

[JohnnyFartPants]

It would be better if these fore-mentioned, self-righteous “common sense” supporters actually went to the games and supported the team they purport to support rather than pompously pontificate!

 

Next thing you know, the ‘common sense gang’ will be praising George Burley. Whatever next?

 

For what it’s worth, I think a nostalgia thread is pretty well placed in the current climate. The actually reality of Southampton Football Club is shocking as we sit at the cusp of total annihilation.

 

At least it is only football though and nothing really important. Imagine if it was something more than being about making football players from mainly foreign countries millionaires!