Farmer Saint Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 17 minutes ago, egg said: I think it's bollox. Sure, there's a war industry, but I don't accept that BlackRock are influencing leaders to go to war, which seems to be his implied point. I don't think it's BlackRock influencing, but I think it's Governments not giving two fucks as long as the money is funnelling back into companies of their Nationality. 1
ecuk268 Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago Evokes memories of the "military-industrial complex" of the 50's. The military were constantly telling Eisenhower about how many missliles the Soviets had and that he had to pour millions into the military contractors so that they could compete. Then, after the first overflights by the U2 and satellites, it became obvious that they had very few and all of the warnings were as much about boosting the profits of the contractors rather than strenghening defence. Eisenhower referenced this in his farewell address in 1961 and warned about the unwarranted influence of this complex. 3
Gloucester Saint Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago Just now, ecuk268 said: Evokes memories of the "military-industrial complex" of the 50's. The military were constantly telling Eisenhower about how many missliles the Soviets had and that he had to pour millions into the military contractors so that they could compete. Then, after the first overflights by the U2 and satellites, it became obvious that they had very few and all of the warnings were as much about boosting the profits of the contractors rather than strenghening defence. Eisenhower referenced this in his farewell address in 1961 and warned about the unwarranted influence of this complex. Halliburton had plenty of tentacles within the Bush Jr administration as well.
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 7 hours ago, benjii said: If you actually believe you will get the money you're a fuckwit! Pauses mid citizenship application...🙂 2
whelk Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 24 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: Pauses mid citizenship application...🙂 You’d have to spend it on Reese’s chocolate, Budweiser or a semiautomatic rifle. That’s your choices 1
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 1 hour ago, whelk said: You’d have to spend it on Reese’s chocolate, Budweiser or a semiautomatic rifle. That’s your choices Awww. I was hoping to swill a beer past the chocs I was eating, while taking aim. But only one of the three (admittedly superb choices), is it?
Sir Ralph Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 19 hours ago, egg said: I think it's bollox. Sure, there's a war industry, but I don't accept that BlackRock are influencing leaders to go to war, which seems to be his implied point. Ok you can say what he said is rubbish but of what he said, which part is incorrect? I dont think he is saying Blackrock encouraged the war or influenced government (he said that weapons companies like countries joining Nato - the unintended impact was the Ukraine conflict) but that once it started, Blackrocks influence on matters and the financial benefits is dodgy Edited 2 hours ago by Sir Ralph
egg Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Just now, Sir Ralph said: Ok you can say what he said is rubbish but of what he said, which part is incorrect? As I posted...I don't accept that BlackRock are influencing leaders to go to war, which seems to be his implied point. I addressed the point, if you have a different opinion, feel free to make it, but I'm not debating it with you.
Sir Ralph Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 3 minutes ago, egg said: As I posted...I don't accept that BlackRock are influencing leaders to go to war, which seems to be his implied point. I addressed the point, if you have a different opinion, feel free to make it, but I'm not debating it with you. I dont think he is saying Blackrock encouraged the war or influenced government (he said that weapons companies like countries joining Nato - the unintended impact was the Ukraine conflict) but that once it started, Blackrocks influence on matters and the financial benefits is dodgy. He stated a number of facts about things that have happened, that are not a matter of opinion - they happended or they didnt. You can say its bollocks but if you cant point to why the stated facts are incorrect thats your problem. Dont debate me but dont comment on things you dont want to back up either. Edited 2 hours ago by Sir Ralph
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