Farmer Saint Posted Thursday at 13:49 Posted Thursday at 13:49 17 minutes ago, egg said: I think it's bollox. Sure, there's a war industry, but I don't accept that BlackRock are influencing leaders to go to war, which seems to be his implied point. I don't think it's BlackRock influencing, but I think it's Governments not giving two fucks as long as the money is funnelling back into companies of their Nationality. 1
ecuk268 Posted Thursday at 14:03 Posted Thursday at 14:03 Evokes memories of the "military-industrial complex" of the 50's. The military were constantly telling Eisenhower about how many missliles the Soviets had and that he had to pour millions into the military contractors so that they could compete. Then, after the first overflights by the U2 and satellites, it became obvious that they had very few and all of the warnings were as much about boosting the profits of the contractors rather than strenghening defence. Eisenhower referenced this in his farewell address in 1961 and warned about the unwarranted influence of this complex. 3
Gloucester Saint Posted Thursday at 14:04 Posted Thursday at 14:04 Just now, ecuk268 said: Evokes memories of the "military-industrial complex" of the 50's. The military were constantly telling Eisenhower about how many missliles the Soviets had and that he had to pour millions into the military contractors so that they could compete. Then, after the first overflights by the U2 and satellites, it became obvious that they had very few and all of the warnings were as much about boosting the profits of the contractors rather than strenghening defence. Eisenhower referenced this in his farewell address in 1961 and warned about the unwarranted influence of this complex. Halliburton had plenty of tentacles within the Bush Jr administration as well.
Holmes_and_Watson Posted Thursday at 15:35 Posted Thursday at 15:35 7 hours ago, benjii said: If you actually believe you will get the money you're a fuckwit! Pauses mid citizenship application...🙂 2
whelk Posted Thursday at 16:02 Posted Thursday at 16:02 24 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: Pauses mid citizenship application...🙂 You’d have to spend it on Reese’s chocolate, Budweiser or a semiautomatic rifle. That’s your choices 1
Holmes_and_Watson Posted Thursday at 17:10 Posted Thursday at 17:10 1 hour ago, whelk said: You’d have to spend it on Reese’s chocolate, Budweiser or a semiautomatic rifle. That’s your choices Awww. I was hoping to swill a beer past the chocs I was eating, while taking aim. But only one of the three (admittedly superb choices), is it?
Sir Ralph Posted yesterday at 08:59 Posted yesterday at 08:59 (edited) 19 hours ago, egg said: I think it's bollox. Sure, there's a war industry, but I don't accept that BlackRock are influencing leaders to go to war, which seems to be his implied point. Ok you can say what he said is rubbish but of what he said, which part is incorrect? I dont think he is saying Blackrock encouraged the war or influenced government (he said that weapons companies like countries joining Nato - the unintended impact was the Ukraine conflict) but that once it started, Blackrocks influence on matters and the financial benefits is dodgy Edited yesterday at 09:02 by Sir Ralph
egg Posted yesterday at 09:01 Posted yesterday at 09:01 Just now, Sir Ralph said: Ok you can say what he said is rubbish but of what he said, which part is incorrect? As I posted...I don't accept that BlackRock are influencing leaders to go to war, which seems to be his implied point. I addressed the point, if you have a different opinion, feel free to make it, but I'm not debating it with you.
Sir Ralph Posted yesterday at 09:05 Posted yesterday at 09:05 (edited) 3 minutes ago, egg said: As I posted...I don't accept that BlackRock are influencing leaders to go to war, which seems to be his implied point. I addressed the point, if you have a different opinion, feel free to make it, but I'm not debating it with you. I dont think he is saying Blackrock encouraged the war or influenced government (he said that weapons companies like countries joining Nato - the unintended impact was the Ukraine conflict) but that once it started, Blackrocks influence on matters and the financial benefits is dodgy. He stated a number of facts about things that have happened, that are not a matter of opinion - they happended or they didnt. You can say its bollocks but if you cant point to why the stated facts are incorrect thats your problem. Dont debate me but dont comment on things you dont want to back up either. Edited yesterday at 09:05 by Sir Ralph
badgerx16 Posted yesterday at 16:53 Posted yesterday at 16:53 In Missouri the Republicans, with Trump's approval, created a new districting map that altered the balance of the State's seats in the House of Representatives from 6:2 in their favour to 7:1, and proposed using it for the midterms. The State Supreme Court, (Republican majority ), was asked to rule on this and unanimously rejected it and said the old map must be used until the new proposal could be put to a State-wide ballot. The State's Secretary of State and Attorney General appealed this to the federal Supreme Court, which itself unanimously backed the State Court and rejected the appeal. The Secretary and AG then found a friendly fedreal Judge who gave them a new way to approach the State SC, but again the State SC ruled against them. The Secretary of State said he would again challenge the State SC ruling, however the Court ordered him to be held in Contempt of Court - he has now backed down and accepted their original decision.
Challenger Posted yesterday at 17:11 Posted yesterday at 17:11 The sooner this cunt is gone, the better. 3
benjii Posted yesterday at 17:45 Posted yesterday at 17:45 I see Grindr keeps crashing in areas where Republicans hold conventions. 1
Doctoroncall Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago On 10/09/2026 at 08:39, Gloucester Saint said: That says everything about America and the state of its democracy. I doubt their voters will even think for a second about who is paying for it or what the trade off is afterwards. $5k - I might lose my healthcare and die within 2 years long before my time - but let’s grab the money in the here and now. He promised money before with $2k from the DOGE savings. Can he fool the voters twice? On 10/09/2026 at 08:42, benjii said: If you actually believe you will get the money you're a fuckwit! Is there enough of them to help him? The term they use in the US is low information voters.
badgerx16 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Doctoroncall said: He promised money before with $2k from the DOGE savings. Can he fool the voters twice? Is there enough of them to help him? The term they use in the US is low information voters. He already has - 2 terms as POTUS. 1
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