derry Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 Sorry, the date is 23/1/09 @ 7pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 less than 24 hours notice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 isnt this a bit short notice, I understand its an urgent issue but could it not have been next week sometime to enable people to arrange to attend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 The clubs future is urgent.............perhaps we should wait another year, so as you can fit it in. I only wish I had shares....I'd be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 asked on other thread............ do you have to own shares in southampton FC to attend? I bought shares in Barclays and Lloyds yesterday.....does that count? Barclays sort of own SFC and I now own a little slice or Barc.....surely on this basis I qualify for a top table seat? p.s PM me if you want me to say a few motivational words during evening of 23/02 all the above is genuine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 22 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 22 January, 2009 I think they are trying to get something moving now, It's all shareholders invited, email mikefenner@saveoursaints ( presumably .co.uk or .com). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 22 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 22 January, 2009 asked on other thread............ do you have to own shares in southampton FC to attend? I bought shares in Barclays and Lloyds yesterday.....does that count? Barclays sort of own SFC and I now own a little slice or Barc.....surely on this basis I qualify for a top table seat? p.s PM me if you want me to say a few motivational words during evening of 23/02 all the above is genuine Shareholders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 Shareholders. discrimination! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 But isnt this what the Saints Trust should be doing, they own shares and also have or had shares proxied to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fos1 Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 But isnt this what the Saints Trust should be doing, they own shares and also have or had shares proxied to them. Yes Jan you are right, what are the Trust doing? how come they are not doing a thing at the most important time in Saints history ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 Yes Jan you are right, what are the Trust doing? how come they are not doing a thing at the most important time in Saints history ! MLT very quiet too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 Perhaps he's been nobbled too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 Yes Jan you are right, what are the Trust doing? how come they are not doing a thing at the most important time in Saints history ! Have you asked them? For all you (and I, as I certainly haven't a clue) know, they might be organising something right now. Just out of interest, who arranged this meeting? I appreciate that time is short, but a day's notice isn't feasible for most people, including me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 I hope Leon Crouch attends , we might find out whats going on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 Sorry if I am a bit confused, or sound a bit underwhelmed, but what good can this actually do? Surely if Judas Wilde (and all the other apologists) keep siding with L*we then there is nothing anyone can do to remove him, short of hiring a hitman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fos1 Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 Have you asked them? For all you (and I, as I certainly haven't a clue) know, they might be organising something right now. Just out of interest, who arranged this meeting? I appreciate that time is short, but a day's notice isn't feasible for most people, including me. Yes Steve I have asked the question, awaiting an answer from Jason !! Dont know who arranged this, yes a days notice is not feasible, I cannot attend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WealdSaint Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 Will any of the major shareholders be there I wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 Yes Steve I have asked the question, awaiting an answer from Jason !! Good luck with that one Dont know who arranged this, yes a days notice is not feasible, I cannot attend. I should probably add that I think something like this that brings shareholders together - as realistically they're the ones who will be able to effect change infinitely quicker than "ordinary" fans - is a good thing, so long as it's organised and structured correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 A rushed meeting does not, imo, seem the right course of action, outside of the main shareholders what percentage is left ?, I appreciate the percentage may be owned by thousands but exactly what is it ? is it adequate enough if put with LC & MC's to make any kind of impression ? why the hurry anyway, we were in the cart before the AGM so why was that opportunity wasted to organise a meeting thereafter ? all for getting together for positive action but who wnts to listen to the likes of Trant spout further bolllocks about investment because, lets be clear, its all about the money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 It wouldn't surprise me if someone has some thoughts on this kind of front: http://www.shareholderrights.co.uk/disputes_nf.htm Here's an extract: If a dispute arises between shareholders, after considering the small print of the Company’s Articles of Association, probably the next most important legal principle for any shareholder to understand is Section 459 of the Companies Act 1985. The most relevant part of the provision states as follows:- “A member of a company may apply to the court… for an order under this Part on the ground that the company’s affairs are being or have been conducted in a manner which is unfairly prejudicial to the interests of its members generally or of some part of its members…” [emphasis added; a “member” is simply a shareholder] The section is, in itself, worded in a very legalistic manner and many lawyers find it difficult to understand, so what chance does the layman have? What the section seeks to do is protect minority shareholders (those with a 50% shareholding or less) in circumstances where the majority shareholders seek to act in a way which is “unfairly prejudicial” to their interests. So the provision protects minority shareholders from “unfairly prejudicial” conduct, but what is that? It would be impossible to accurately reduce to only a few words the many legal authorities on precisely what conduct is classed as “unfairly prejudicial”, but in very general terms it means that minority shareholders have a right to complain to the court if the majority shareholder(s) run the Company in a manner that damages their position and the worth of their shareholding, often done deliberately and often by misapplying or misusing Company assets. But the complaint cannot be vague or trivial (e.g. “they’re managing the business badly”) and must stand up to some objective analysis. Examples of “unfairly prejudicial” conduct might be using company assets or money for the personal benefit of a shareholder or the majority shareholder(s) paying themselves far more than people in their position could objectively justify. Hell of a hard to prove, mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 Derry says tomorrow and original bournemouth saint says 23/02 which one is right :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 'must stand up to some objective analysis' Objectivity, impossible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 Derry says tomorrow and original bournemouth saint says 23/02 which one is right :confused: derry is right, my response was to original (mistake) thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 (edited) Have you asked them? For all you (and I, as I certainly haven't a clue) know, they might be organising something right now. Just out of interest, who arranged this meeting? I appreciate that time is short, but a day's notice isn't feasible for most people, including me. Steve, with respect, should The Trust not be asking us? This seems to me to be the problem with the Trust - they are like rabbits in headlights, seemingly frozen by every disaster that comes along. Why haven't they organised anything? Why haven't they issued a statement? If fans on forums can get their act together why can't they? The longer the silence goes on the more I am sensing they are either incapable or do not want to question the current goings on. Edited 22 January, 2009 by Fitzhugh Fella spelling and grammar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 22 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 22 January, 2009 (edited) The organiser is called Mike Fenner, a ST holder, email at mikefenner@saveoursaints (presumably .co.uk or .com) It's the address in the Echo. A shareholders association to collect all anti Lowe shareholdings is a good idea. I think more than 50% is owned by non Lowe axis shareholders. Edited 22 January, 2009 by derry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 Steve, with respect, should The Trust not be asking us? "don't ask what your trust can do for you but what you can do for your trust" Nick Illingsworth 2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 The organiser is called Mike Fenner, a ST holder, email at mikefenner@saveoursaints (presumably .co.uk or .com) It's the address in the Echo. A shareholders association to collect all anti Lowe shareholdings is a good idea. I think more than 50% is owned by non Lowe axis ahareholders. I know a Mike Fenner....wonder if its the same one? Anyone know anything about him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 I know a Mike Fenner....wonder if its the same one? Anyone know anything about him? Answers to the name of Fenners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 22 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 22 January, 2009 It wouldn't surprise me if someone has some thoughts on this kind of front: http://www.shareholderrights.co.uk/disputes_nf.htm Here's an extract: Hell of a hard to prove, mind. Hi Bill, Happy new year, you only seem to post on the non football threads, aren't you interested any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 Answers to the name of Fenners As in Electrical?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 Hi Bill, Happy new year, you only seem to post on the non football threads, aren't you interested any more. Hi Dave, and to you. Yes, I'm interested but the five games I attended this year depressed the sh*t out of me, and I can't see things getting better until the whole ownership and coaching thing is brought to a head. The alternative is death by a thousand cuts/false economies, which is the way we're heading. I don't see enough games to offer any kind of informed opinion on the footy side but I can wade in on this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 22 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 22 January, 2009 As an outsider, the trust appears to me to be a busted flush, serving no useful purpose. Good on those trying to do something, critics only ever sit on their hands, it's the safe thing to do, nothing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 Dr Michael Fenner Faculty: Medicine, Health and Life Sciences Telephone number: 023 8059 Email: mf1@soton. Subjects: Slugs and snails Plant population ecology Biodiversity His subjects could assist when dealing with the current board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 22 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 22 January, 2009 Hi Dave, and to you. Yes, I'm interested but the five games I attended this year depressed the sh*t out of me, and I can't see things getting better until the whole ownership and coaching thing is brought to a head. The alternative is death by a thousand cuts/false economies, which is the way we're heading. I don't see enough games to offer any kind of informed opinion on the footy side but I can wade in on this stuff. See where you are coming from. It started so well in August and really looked promising, then they stopped playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 See where you are coming from. It started so well in August and really looked promising, then they stopped playing. Pressure I would have thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 Dr Michael Fenner Faculty: Medicine, Health and Life Sciences Telephone number: 023 8059 Email: mf1@soton. Subjects: Slugs and snails Plant population ecology Biodiversity His subjects could assist when dealing with the current board Cheers..different one to the one I know!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 Cany anyone confirm what percentage Lowe got at the recent AGM someone has told me that it was in the region of 90+% which would have meant that the either large shareholders ie Leon didnt vote or have I been misinformed with this figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 Steve, with respect, should The Trust not be asking us? This seems to me to be the problem with the Trust - they are like rabbits in headlights, seemingly frozen by every disaster that comes along. Why haven't they organised anything? Why haven't they issued a statement? If fans on forums can get their act together why can't they? The longer the silence goes on the more I am sensing they are either incapable or do not want to question the current goings on. Thank goodness for sensible posters. My thoughts to a tee. Well said Duncan. The bold bit has always concerned me I must say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 Cany anyone confirm what percentage Lowe got at the recent AGM someone has told me that it was in the region of 90+% which would have meant that the either large shareholders ie Leon didnt vote or have I been misinformed with this figure. The figure is correct. For some reason best known to them, the main anti-Lowe shareholders decided to strop out before the vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 Cany anyone confirm what percentage Lowe got at the recent AGM someone has told me that it was in the region of 90+% which would have meant that the either large shareholders ie Leon didnt vote or have I been misinformed with this figure. I gather many did indeed abstain. I am sure someone will break it down but as I understand it the figure of 90% reflected those who actually voted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 So he got 94.5% of the vote to be re-elected which is unbelievable, I know we all voted bfore we left the meeting but then we are ony minor shareholders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 So he got 94.5% of the vote to be re-elected which is unbelievable, I know we all voted bfore we left the meeting but then we are ony minor shareholders. But the other major shareholders like Crouch didnt vote.... Lowe spun the result to make it sound like he had overwhelming support and the rest is history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 Any chance of some background info? The opening thread post just talks about a meeting date/time....link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 Sorry, the date is 23/1/09 @ 7pm. Worth sticking a mini protest just in case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 A load of people were told that the date in the echo was wrong and it was tonight. I went down to the de vere and there was nothing tonight so assuming its 2moro. Can anyone confirm any god damn details about this meeting, ffs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Um Bongo Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 From reading the Echo it is tomorrow night. God i'm stupid, why don't i read other people's posts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 This is something that the Trust should have done weeks ago. Any member of the Trust should be asking just what their contributions are for. The most inert group of so called supporters I have seen, they appear inept at representing their membrers and appear to be too cozy with the current Board of Directors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fos1 Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 This is something that the Trust should have done weeks ago. Any member of the Trust should be asking just what their contributions are for. The most inert group of so called supporters I have seen, they appear inept at representing their membrers and appear to be too cozy with the current Board of Directors. Snowballs2 you are spot on, I asked a commitee member of the Trust this morning what the hell are they doing about this situation I am still waiting for an answer !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Mockles Posted 22 January, 2009 Share Posted 22 January, 2009 (edited) Sorry if I am a bit confused, or sound a bit underwhelmed, but what good can this actually do? Surely if Judas Wilde (and all the other apologists) keep siding with L*we then there is nothing anyone can do to remove him, short of hiring a hitman. I've been peddling this line for ages and ages, glad to see someone else jesting about it! I really can't see any other effective method! haha. Sometimes the simple approach is often the best...wish Saints understood that. Not using simpletons, just using tried and tested methods. Whilst I don't deplore unconventional methods, I do deplore stupid methods and massive, glaringly foolish risks. Revolutionary...say no more! [i'd like to make it clear to TSW, that whilst I cannot stand the sight of Lowe or Wilde, my comments are tongue in cheek and I don't really condone hiring a hitman to murder the fore-mentioned men...there's loads in Southampton that would do it for free!!] Edited 22 January, 2009 by Gordon Mockles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 23 January, 2009 Share Posted 23 January, 2009 (edited) Can someone clarify. Are we talking about shareholders of the SLH? Because I haven't been informed of any meeting. (edit. I didn't think the Saints Trust had shareholders, unless they mean by being a member of The Saints Trust one is a proxied shareholder in SLH.. More confusing) Edited 23 January, 2009 by eelpie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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