Dusic Posted yesterday at 18:14 Author Posted yesterday at 18:14 3 hours ago, trousers said: "If recruitment is finally sorted out then there are no real other issues." That is, of course, correct, but there's no certainty that Spors will be the knight in shining armour that we all hope he is. After all, he's been employed by the very people that we agree are crap recruiters... Go figure... Still, if you've got faith in Spors being able to deliver then that's a reasonable stance to take. To be fair to them, their off-field appointments have largely been pretty good. Goldie is doing a great job with the Academy, Calum McFarlane excellent with U18s and now 21s since another good appointment in Rusk has become involved with the first team. Shields was seens as being good enough for Chelsea who could pretty much get anyone they wanted, ditto Wilcox who setup a promotion in his only season here. Parsons harder to judge but no question of some improvements off the pitch. As you say, no guarentee Spors is successful but initial signs are promising and recruitment has been our no1 failure the last 2 PL seasons so lots to learn from. 1
Nolan Posted yesterday at 18:26 Posted yesterday at 18:26 I think people again are missing the changes that have occurred. The hierarchy was Money man: Dragan Solak Sport Republic: Ankersson/Kraft Saints Chairman: Kraft Recruiting: Parsons The hierarchy now is Owner: Dragan Solak Sport Republic: Ankersson Saints Chairman: Dragan Solak Recruiting: Spors Dragans new position is specifically to protect his investment. People do not make the money that he has, and not be astute with what is necessary. Juric was appointed before Spors came in, and we are yet to see his ideas on action. 1
Dusic Posted yesterday at 18:31 Author Posted yesterday at 18:31 1 minute ago, Nolan said: I think people again are missing the changes that have occurred. The hierarchy was Money man: Dragan Solak Sport Republic: Ankersson/Kraft Saints Chairman: Kraft Recruiting: Parsons The hierarchy now is Owner: Dragan Solak Sport Republic: Ankersson Saints Chairman: Dragan Solak Recruiting: Spors Dragans new position is specifically to protect his investment. People do not make the money that he has, and not be astute with what is necessary. Juric was appointed before Spors came in, and we are yet to see his ideas on action. This is very over simplified and not hugely accurate. Parsons is CEO. He obviously had a role in recruitment negotiations but in no way would he have been ID'ing and choosing which players to target. The whole point of Spors being brought in is to have a single person responsible for the football operation - its not just names that have changed but roles and responsibilities. 1
Nolan Posted yesterday at 19:41 Posted yesterday at 19:41 Yes, its over simplified, but it's designed to be over simplified. A lot of people don't realise how Ankerssons role has diminished. The structure in place now, is very different to how it was in January.
ApprenticeBillionaire Posted yesterday at 19:47 Posted yesterday at 19:47 4 minutes ago, Nolan said: Yes, its over simplified, but it's designed to be over simplified. A lot of people don't realise how Ankerssons role has diminished. The structure in place now, is very different to how it was in January. I get what you're saying but how has Ankersons role diminished though? In that scenario.... 1
AlexLaw76 Posted yesterday at 19:52 Posted yesterday at 19:52 10 minutes ago, Nolan said: Yes, its over simplified, but it's designed to be over simplified. A lot of people don't realise how Ankerssons role has diminished. The structure in place now, is very different to how it was in January. My Anderson scar tissue is too great to believe he has little/no influence in SFC 1 1
Saint Gifford Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago Wouldn’t be surprised if DS has had enough. Prem football now is funded by Countries or people of vast wealth, with Countries funding. Long gone are the days of a normal Billionaire buying a club as their play thing or hobby. FA Cup, League Cup probably the only return for your money these days, in the Prem.
AlexLaw76 Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Saint Gifford said: Wouldn’t be surprised if DS has had enough. Prem football now is funded by Countries or people of vast wealth, with Countries funding. Long gone are the days of a normal Billionaire buying a club as their play thing or hobby. FA Cup, League Cup probably the only return for your money these days, in the Prem. PSR, right?
James G Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 35 minutes ago, Saint Gifford said: Wouldn’t be surprised if DS has had enough. Prem football now is funded by Countries or people of vast wealth, with Countries funding. Long gone are the days of a normal Billionaire buying a club as their play thing or hobby. FA Cup, League Cup probably the only return for your money these days, in the Prem. Lol, it was a comment taken out of context, a while back now, that lots of people are aware of, out of frustration Saints are not actively for sale. Can't believe this was reported as news lol
Midfield_General Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 50 minutes ago, James G said: Lol, it was a comment taken out of context, a while back now, that lots of people are aware of, out of frustration Saints are not actively for sale. Can't believe this was reported as news lol What was the comment, from whom to whom?
James G Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Midfield_General said: What was the comment, from whom to whom? Dragan Solak, it originated from a foreign interview
James G Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago All this stuff that is written does genuinely come out of clubs, but none of it happens. Genuinely, the only thing this year that has happened was RVN taking over at Leicester. Nothing else has ever happened. Noone at clubs know anything, I think you have to know agents to get any good information. I've given up with it all lol. It's one of them where if you post everything you hear, something will be right eventually.
ApprenticeBillionaire Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago (edited) 7 hours ago, James G said: Dragan Solak, it originated from a foreign interview Bollocks. This has only been rumoured since last week with Jordon saying it 48hrs ago. If the OWNER of a Premier League football club had even hinted that it's for sale in an interview anywhere at any time that would have been literally all over the fucking place quicker than a cat through a catflap. Edited 14 hours ago by ApprenticeBillionaire 1
Zorba Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 53 minutes ago, ApprenticeBillionaire said: Bollocks. This has only been rumoured since last week with Jordon saying it 48hrs ago. If the OWNER of a Premier League football club had even hinted that it's for sale in an interview anywhere at any time that would have been literally all over the fucking place quicker than a cat through a catflap. Why are your posts always so aggressive? A simple “I’m not sure I agree with you there” would be much more pleasant than “Bollocks!” I have visions of you sat there with a Stone Island double badger and a black Nike baseball cap. XL bully, on your lap, cracked phone screen in your hand, slurping tea through missing teeth from a Sports Direct mug. I may be wrong of course, that’s just the way your posts come across. 20
revolution saint Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago Given the apparent friendship between Jim White and Solak, this should be an easy one to clear up. Solak does an interview on TalkSport to clarify his position. 5
Morse Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Difficult one to call if you're not ITK as I'm not. On the one hand selling now would represent a big financial loss for DS so why would he ? Possible answer is he's crunched the numbers and sees how much more he'll need to pump in to stand any chance of getting his money back, and has decided to cut his losses. Time will tell 3
Wade Garrett Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 24 minutes ago, Morse said: Difficult one to call if you're not ITK as I'm not. On the one hand selling now would represent a big financial loss for DS so why would he ? Possible answer is he's crunched the numbers and sees how much more he'll need to pump in to stand any chance of getting his money back, and has decided to cut his losses. Time will tell We’ll get good money for Ramsdale and bring a capable keeper in on a third of the wages (get the Stoke keeper in). We’ll probably get rid of the sulky teenager for a decent price as there are seemingly a few clubs interested. A few others will be on their way as well. We made a profit in the last load of accounts and we’re at a big advantage over most of the Championship with parachute payments. I don’t think a king’s ransom will be needed to get us promoted next season. We will, however, have to be much better at buying. 6
Channons Windmill Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago My source on this is 100% reliable - as I mentioned previously, I’m involved in the acquisition of a different EFL club at present so it’s pretty easy to find out what is for sale (almost everything),,, 2
ApprenticeBillionaire Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 2 hours ago, Zorba said: Why are your posts always so aggressive? A simple “I’m not sure I agree with you there” would be much more pleasant than “Bollocks!” I have visions of you sat there with a Stone Island double badger and a black Nike baseball cap. XL bully, on your lap, cracked phone screen in your hand, slurping tea through missing teeth from a Sports Direct mug. I may be wrong of course, that’s just the way your posts come across. You got me. Guilty as charged squire. 2
ApprenticeBillionaire Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 2 hours ago, revolution saint said: Given the apparent friendship between Jim White and Solak, this should be an easy one to clear up. Solak does an interview on TalkSport to clarify his position. White didn't even bat an eyelid when Jordon said it. No reaction whatsoever. So it probably is. 1
BarberSaint Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Why are your posts always so aggressive? A simple “I’m not sure I agree with you there” would be much more pleasant than “Bollocks!” I have visions of you sat there with a Stone Island double badger and a black Nike baseball cap. XL bully, on your lap, cracked phone screen in your hand, slurping tea through missing teeth from a Sports Direct mug. I may be wrong of course, that’s just the way your posts come across. Bollocks. I have no idea what stone badger and the like are but they sound quite 'iffy'. I thought I'd add my view, as above and concur with said 'bollocks-maker' on this occasion as it's clearly been the case from reading this thread over the last few days that the current discussion/debate/gossip around a sale is due to the throwaway comment that two people who heard it didn't pick up on which is unusual in the context. The other point might be right but we've no source for it nor have we anything that indicates that that has been in anyone's mind when rambling on about sales of football clubs whereas we do have a lot tying this (said rambling aka posting) into that radio show that's now videoed and whatnot. 1
BarberSaint Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 7 hours ago, Zorba said: Delete that. 5 hours ago, Wade Garrett said: We’ll get good money for Ramsdale and bring a capable keeper in on a third of the wages (get the Stoke keeper in). We’ll probably get rid of the sulky teenager for a decent price as there are seemingly a few clubs interested. A few others will be on their way as well. We made a profit in the last load of accounts and we’re at a big advantage over most of the Championship with parachute payments. I don’t think a king’s ransom will be needed to get us promoted next season. We will, however, have to be much better at playing football. The bit in bold is the bit I like. 3
Gloucester Saint Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, BarberSaint said: Why are your posts always so aggressive? A simple “I’m not sure I agree with you there” would be much more pleasant than “Bollocks!” I have visions of you sat there with a Stone Island double badger and a black Nike baseball cap. XL bully, on your lap, cracked phone screen in your hand, slurping Carling through missing teeth from a cracked pint glass in the Windsor Castle I may be wrong of course, that’s just the way your posts come across. Bollocks. I have no idea what stone badger and the like are but they sound quite 'iffy'. I thought I'd add my view, as above and concur with said 'bollocks-maker' on this occasion as it's clearly been the case from reading this thread over the last few days that the current discussion/debate/gossip around a sale is due to the throwaway comment that two people who heard it didn't pick up on which is unusual in the context. The other point might be right but we've no source for it nor have we anything that indicates that that has been in anyone's mind when rambling on about sales of football clubs whereas we do have a lot tying this (said rambling aka posting) into that radio show that's now videoed and whatnot. Edited it for you
Dr. Kucho Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 21 hours ago, Nolan said: I think people again are missing the changes that have occurred. The hierarchy was Money man: Dragan Solak Sport Republic: Ankersson/Kraft Saints Chairman: Kraft Recruiting: Parsons The hierarchy now is Owner: Dragan Solak Sport Republic: Ankersson Saints Chairman: Dragan Solak Recruiting: Spors Dragans new position is specifically to protect his investment. People do not make the money that he has, and not be astute with what is necessary. Juric was appointed before Spors came in, and we are yet to see his ideas on action. I would like to know why Kraft was removed/resigned whilst Ankerson is still around. What did Kraft do (or didn’t do) that he had to leave? 1
FredVaFC59100 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Dr. Kucho said: I would like to know why Kraft was removed/resigned whilst Ankerson is still around. What did Kraft do (or didn’t do) that he had to leave? Is it just because SFC went down w/ VA FC doing poorly and Gotzepe was still afloat ? Edited 3 hours ago by FredVaFC59100 1
Nolan Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Whilst Göztepe's form has slipped slightly, they are still around 8th in the Turkish top tier. Ankersson is in charge over there.
Gloucester Saint Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 51 minutes ago, FredVaFC59100 said: Is it just because SFC went down w/ VA FC doing poorly and Gotzepe was still afloat ? Or that was it how it presented around the SR Boardroom table by a certain member.
ChristopheVAFC Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago If Southampton is sold, what will the future hold for Goztepe and Valenciennes? Will SR remain a minority shareholder in the Saint's?
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