What Is Happening To Our Country?

[Saint86]

20 hours ago, whelk said:

Why aren’t these cunts being named?

https://news.sky.com/story/two-men-arrested-in-connection-with-golders-green-arson-attack-13523827

Presumably because they haven't been charged as yet, and the police/government don't want to create further tension in the community 🤷‍♂️.

Its going to come out eventually...

Edited Thursday at 08:45 by Saint86

[Turkish]

40 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Which would be absolutely spot on if I had said he shouldn’t be allowed to vote, which I hadn’t. Still, I guess you have taken a lead from Trump when it comes to “fake news.”

As for insulting their views, guilty as charged. Anyone supporting Farage and his cronies deserves to have their views insulted. As you say, freedom of speech etc which, apparently, Farage is all for (unless he is on the receiving end of things he doesn’t like).

😘

yes you're right you didn't directly say he shouldn't be allowed to vote, you said "people like him" so not just him but anyone like him, therefore anyone who doesn't agree with you. Here he goes again with the Trump & Farage nonsense. You're in no position to take the moral high ground with anyone given your comments and views on paeodophilia and domestic violence. Absolute prick of a bloke. 

Edited Thursday at 08:53 by Turkish

[sadoldgit]

17 hours ago, Turkish said:

I'm wondering if someone who has suggested posters on here would film acts of pedophilia from behind a mirror, has suggested other posters would be weeding out the ones too old and the Muslims for said acts and who has describes being caught child pornography as "hardly the crime of the century" has a rather disturbing view of this sort of behaviour.

Oh dear, here we go again. Just when I think that nutty nic is the dimmest poster in here, up you pop.

My comment was made in relation to the fact that the BBC  ran the Edwards story as the main feature every day for the best part of a week. Now perhaps you agree with the BBC News editor that the story was the most important news item both nationally and internationally for the best part of a week? I don’t. After a day or two there was no reason to continue use it as the lead story. It seems to me that the BBC overreacted because they were scared of the kick back from anti BBC types.

As for the not the crime of the century comment, it clearly wasn’t. As abhorrent as being in possession of indecent chill images is, it is not considered, under the law, as serious as murder. That is why murder cases are tried in the Crown Court and attract longer sentences and the case that he was charged with was heard in the Magistrate’s Court. As said, he received a suspended sentence. If he had committed a more serious act under the law, do you think he would have avoided a custodial sentence?

I have explained this all previously. Clearly it went over both your and your mate’s (hypochondriac) heads.

As regards disturbing behaviour, following people around on the internet on a daily basis and desperately trying to score points off them by dredging up long past posts and twisting them into something they weren’t seems to me to be disturbing behaviour. You even managed to drag another poster’s wives into one of your stalky posts a while back!
At a time when the misuse of social media is coming under such scrutiny, you might like to consider the fact that someone your age really should not be using public forums to deal with your own personal insecurities and issues.

[sadoldgit]

28 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Surely the most important aspect of a joke is that it is funny, not that it does not cause offence. If things have gone so far then surely characatures must also comply ; no more Manuel on Fawlty Towers, no more Four Yorkshiremen from Monty Python, no more Father Ted, etc

Would you laugh at a joke using the n word? There are plenty of things we laughed at in the 70’s but we wouldn’t dream of laughing at now. Bob Monkhouse was of that era. We have no idea about the content of the book, but someone has made the call that some of the jokes could be seen as offensive now. 

[Turkish]

21 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Oh dear, here we go again. Just when I think that nutty nic is the dimmest poster in here, up you pop.

My comment was made in relation to the fact that the BBC  ran the Edwards story as the main feature every day for the best part of a week. Now perhaps you agree with the BBC News editor that the story was the most important news item both nationally and internationally for the best part of a week? I don’t. After a day or two there was no reason to continue use it as the lead story. It seems to me that the BBC overreacted because they were scared of the kick back from anti BBC types.

As for the not the crime of the century comment, it clearly wasn’t. As abhorrent as being in possession of indecent chill images is, it is not considered, under the law, as serious as murder. That is why murder cases are tried in the Crown Court and attract longer sentences and the case that he was charged with was heard in the Magistrate’s Court. As said, he received a suspended sentence. If he had committed a more serious act under the law, do you think he would have avoided a custodial sentence?

I have explained this all previously. Clearly it went over both your and your mate’s (hypochondriac) heads.

As regards disturbing behaviour, following people around on the internet on a daily basis and desperately trying to score points off them by dredging up long past posts and twisting them into something they weren’t seems to me to be disturbing behaviour. You even managed to drag another poster’s wives into one of your stalky posts a while back!
At a time when the misuse of social media is coming under such scrutiny, you might like to consider the fact that someone your age really should not be using public forums to deal with your own personal insecurities and issues.

You said people on this forum would be filming acts of peaodphila from behind a mirror you said other posters would be weeding out the ones who were too old, too ugly and muslims, Your post was so abhorrent you were condemned by everyone who read it and the thread was deleted. It was described as one of the most disgusting posts ever read on this forum, which is some achievement., No apology, no thought that maybe you got it wrong. 

You defended and continue to defend someone caught with indecent images of children as "not the crime of the century"

Yet you continue to criticise other posters, you continue to preach and be pious whilst holding these views, along with your views on domestic violence and your racist comments, meanwhile saying people who pull you up on it are stalkers. Alll these things togther it's not a good look for you is it?

Edited Thursday at 09:26 by Turkish

[Saint86]

The two men who were arrested have now been released on bail. Assumption being that there wasn't enough evidence to charge them at this time, and therefore probably for the best that their identities were not relseased.

[badgerx16]

2 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

Would you laugh at a joke using the n word? There are plenty of things we laughed at in the 70’s but we wouldn’t dream of laughing at now. Bob Monkhouse was of that era. We have no idea about the content of the book, but someone has made the call that some of the jokes could be seen as offensive now. 

Is the first joke on the Crap Jokes thread funny or offensive ? If the 'N' word is now off limits an I allowed to watch Richard Prior ?

[Turkish]

14 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Is the first joke on the Crap Jokes thread funny or offensive ? If the 'N' word is now off limits an I allowed to watch Richard Prior ?

Check out the last "joke" could this not be considered sexist and misogynistic?  

 

I mean one of Bob Monkhouses jokes was about getting a horse for his wife being a fair swap, joking that your wife has fallen off a motorbike is surely worse? At very least wives and mother in law jokes are definitely "of that era" which seems to be considered offensive by some when it suits them

Edited Thursday at 12:04 by Turkish

[sadoldgit]

2 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

Is the first joke on the Crap Jokes thread funny or offensive ? If the 'N' word is now off limits an I allowed to watch Richard Prior ?

We (the forum) has had this discussion before. Black people have appropriated it for their own use. When white people use it it is racist.

I used to laugh at a lot of things in the 60’s and 70’s that aren’t remotely funny in 2026. Times change and most change with them don’t they? I know we still have some posters rooted in the last century though.

Is the first joke funny? No. It is just not remotely funny even if it were told in the 1970’s. Is it offensive? Not to me. Maybe to gay people, but then the ones I know don’t have a problem with making fun of their sexuality.

It raises another point. Just because something is not offensive to one person, it doesn’t mean it isn’t offensive to someone else? Where do you draw the line? For the younger generations, they won’t know what humour was like in the 60’s and 70’s so will have a completely different attitude towards what is socially acceptable. We would probably sit stony faced through comedy acts from the 20’s and 30’s. Is there anything intrinsically funny about people with different colour skin or sexuality? Of course not. It is all about attitudes. Attitudes change.

Edited Thursday at 14:53 by sadoldgit

[badgerx16]

28 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

We (the forum) has had this discussion before. Black people have appropriated it for their own use. When white people use it it is racist.

So I CAN laugh at a joke using the "N" word. Thanks for thst.

I assume laughing AT white people using that word in a racist manner, such as in Blazing Saddles, is still allowed to be considered amusing.

Edited Thursday at 15:04 by badgerx16

[sadoldgit]

1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

So I CAN laugh at a joke using the "N" word. Thanks for thst.

I assume laughing AT white people using that word in a racist manner, such as in Blazing Saddles, is still allowed to be considered amusing.

You can laugh at what you like Badger. If you went to live in Africa and were one of the few white people living in the town, would you feel comfortable if the locals made fun of you because of your colour?

Blazing Saddles was making fun of racism wasn’t it? Just as Mel Brookes poked fun at the Nazis in The Producers. I am sure you are bright enough to know the difference.

[badgerx16]

11 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

You can laugh at what you like Badger. If you went to live in Africa and were one of the few white people living in the town, would you feel comfortable if the locals made fun of you because of your colour?

Blazing Saddles was making fun of racism wasn’t it? Just as Mel Brookes poked fun at the Nazis in The Producers. I am sure you are bright enough to know the difference.

Yes, which was exactly the point I was making. You made a generalised statement and seemed completely oblivious to the effect of nuance and context.

Edited Thursday at 16:15 by badgerx16

[Turkish]

54 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

You can laugh at what you like Badger. If you went to live in Africa and were one of the few white people living in the town, would you feel comfortable if the locals made fun of you because of your colour?

Blazing Saddles was making fun of racism wasn’t it? Just as Mel Brookes poked fun at the Nazis in The Producers. I am sure you are bright enough to know the difference.

Is making jokes about peadophiles and your wife having a motorbike accident funny?

[Saint86]

Seems topical 🙃

[Turkish]

8 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

Seems topical 🙃

The first time saw that I was crying with laughter for hours, genius

[AlexLaw76]

UK War footing update.

Not a f-ing clue

 

[badgerx16]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyxeqpzz2no

 

"There was "no evidence" of "family voting" or voter coercion at the Gorton and Denton by-election, police have concluded after an investigation.......

GMP said there was "no evidence to suggest any intent to influence or refrain a person from voting as stated in the Ballot Secrecy Act 2023" but Farage called it an "establishment whitewash"."

Edited yesterday at 19:08 by badgerx16

[sadoldgit]

On 26/03/2026 at 16:15, badgerx16 said:

Yes, which was exactly the point I was making. You made a generalised statement and seemed completely oblivious to the effect of nuance and context.

As I said, things change. Blazing Saddles wouldn’t get made now despite it being anti racist.  Alf Garnet was set up for us to laugh at a bigot but you couldn’t make a programme with a main character like that now. However, we actually have a bigot in the White House supported by millions of Americans so god knows what is going on.

[badgerx16]

4 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

As I said, things change. Blazing Saddles wouldn’t get made now despite it being anti racist.  Alf Garnet was set up for us to laugh at a bigot but you couldn’t make a programme with a main character like that now. However, we actually have a bigot in the White House supported by millions of Americans so god knows what is going on.

And is the World a better place because of that ? I suggest not.

As for Blazing Saddles, i think the main issue with trying that today would be Mel Brooks' Jewish Indian chief.