Obstacle1 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 On 07/05/2024 at 08:08, Badger said: Not only back up, but I’d like to see Downes playing with a bit of a ball winning ‘enforcer’ next to him. A ‘Wanyama’ or ‘Romeu’ type with Downes the more creative one of the duo Absolutely. Downes reminds me of Schneiderlin at times, always in the right position 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinR Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 Happened to sit next to Flynn's agent on the way to Wembley yesterday. A lovely bloke, very humble. Was interesting to hear what he had to say about Flynn and the summer. Nothing earth shattering but that if we go up (yay!) it makes it easier to keep him. That Flynn loves it here. That the problem will be West Ham now they have only a few central midfielders. But this will likely only delay it rather than stop it. He also gave an insight into Flynn's mentality for big games like this. He also represents Steven Schumacher and confirmed he was gutted he didn't get the job and was interviewed. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 Just a brilliant player. I think him and THB can very comfortably slot in as top league players, we just need to sure up the defence & midfield around them both. Fingers crossed we can get it locked in for anything around £15m~. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 He's a West Ham fan of course bit hopefully he can see (and be convinced) that his best chance of regular PL football is with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 West ham are going to rinse us here I feel. They will know how pivotal he is to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 Not only the change of manager, but the Paqueta situation may affect this transfer as well. He was looking likely to leave, and they were probably hoping for £80m to reinvest with. Now they may be forced to look at what they already have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsLoyal Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 The fact hes done so well i suspect hes going to be fully assessed by the new manager. Im sure the tossers at the athletic will be wanting to claim a story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 Really hoping we can sign him but understand West Ham wanting to keep him. We looked a lot worse when he didn't play so if we don't sign him we'd need someone in the same role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 Really hoping this is our top priority for the summer and we can get Downes tied up permanently 🙏 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 Very mixed views on the WHU forum on whether they should keep him or cash in. I guess they want someone higher profile if they’ve got aspirations of pushing on from this season. One point that I agree with is it’ll be interesting to see how he gets on in a team that’s going to have more like 40% possession compared with the 65% we’re used to. I think we’re also going to need a Romeu type player in there next season, regardless of whether we sign Flynn. That said, we didn’t have much of the ball in the Leeds game but he was still excellent 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 4 hours ago, Jack said: Very mixed views on the WHU forum on whether they should keep him or cash in. I guess they want someone higher profile if they’ve got aspirations of pushing on from this season. One point that I agree with is it’ll be interesting to see how he gets on in a team that’s going to have more like 40% possession compared with the 65% we’re used to. I think we’re also going to need a Romeu type player in there next season, regardless of whether we sign Flynn. That said, we didn’t have much of the ball in the Leeds game but he was still excellent Don't WHU always want someone higher profile? They flashed their bits around in the summer trying for Ruben Amorim, but ended up with Lopotegei. From a natural pov I think they'd be nuts to give away Flynn, a proper fan of the club, a really good footballer - could build a decent PL midfield with the likes of him, Suceck and JWP - but like you say, they will want 'high profile' for no real reason other than an ego stroke. I obviously hope that happens for our benefit, but I think we'll have to be very patient for Flynn - end of August is when this will move if it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 2 hours ago, S-Clarke said: Don't WHU always want someone higher profile? They flashed their bits around in the summer trying for Ruben Amorim, but ended up with Lopotegei. From a natural pov I think they'd be nuts to give away Flynn, a proper fan of the club, a really good footballer - could build a decent PL midfield with the likes of him, Suceck and JWP - but like you say, they will want 'high profile' for no real reason other than an ego stroke. I obviously hope that happens for our benefit, but I think we'll have to be very patient for Flynn - end of August is when this will move if it does. But if last season Downes was playing for a club such as say Leeds I don't think West Ham would have the slightest interest in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 3 hours ago, S-Clarke said: Don't WHU always want someone higher profile? They flashed their bits around in the summer trying for Ruben Amorim, but ended up with Lopotegei. From a natural pov I think they'd be nuts to give away Flynn, a proper fan of the club, a really good footballer - could build a decent PL midfield with the likes of him, Suceck and JWP - but like you say, they will want 'high profile' for no real reason other than an ego stroke. I obviously hope that happens for our benefit, but I think we'll have to be very patient for Flynn - end of August is when this will move if it does. Agreed but having finished 9th under a manager they decided was trash from the start, they’ll be looking to improve on that. If that means Downes is surplus to requirement then I’ll be over the moon, but don’t most clubs in 9th place with significant financial backing think they should be pushing on for better things? In the middle of our 4 years in 6-8th position in the prem, we’d have been calling for better than someone who was at a championship playoff side last season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Mulgrew Posted Wednesday at 22:17 Share Posted Wednesday at 22:17 My son spotted him in Westfield before the Leverkusen game and got a photo with him. Really nice guy who was happy to take the time to speak to us, said his plans for next season were definitely to come back and fight for a place in the squad unless the manager decides otherwise. Looks like he's had a great season for Southampton, I think he would have got plenty of minutes with us the way the season shaped up. Saw that on the WH forum. Unless he has changed his mind since then, it seems FD prefers to stay at WH, where he would be uncertain of starting games, instead of almost certainly starting for us. Unless their new manager does not like what he sees, I think we need to look elsewhere. (The COT might think differently, of course.) 🤐 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted Wednesday at 22:26 Share Posted Wednesday at 22:26 (edited) Think its pretty obvious what the situation is. He is a WH guy on a long contract there with likely most of his family living in Essex (think he is from Brentwood). If he has a chance of course he would love to make it there - why wouldn't he? The fact they have a new manager means he has probably a better shot at it than if Moyes stayed (and also would be less threat of being a championship player again in a year). Should it become clear he isnt going to feature enough there for his liking he has a 2nd option here that I am sure he would be keen on, and which is also fairly possible. Nothing will happen until much closer to the start of the season, or possibly after that as of the 3 parties involved, we are the only one that wants it all sorted ASAP and barely anything happens til July anyway as everyone is on holiday now. From his perspective he has two good options so is in a strong position with no need to rush anything or make public statements when he himself doesn't know what will happen. Edited Wednesday at 22:30 by Dusic 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pwoite Posted Thursday at 07:57 Share Posted Thursday at 07:57 9 hours ago, Dusic said: Think its pretty obvious what the situation is. He is a WH guy on a long contract there with likely most of his family living in Essex (think he is from Brentwood). If he has a chance of course he would love to make it there - why wouldn't he? The fact they have a new manager means he has probably a better shot at it than if Moyes stayed (and also would be less threat of being a championship player again in a year). Should it become clear he isnt going to feature enough there for his liking he has a 2nd option here that I am sure he would be keen on, and which is also fairly possible. Nothing will happen until much closer to the start of the season, or possibly after that as of the 3 parties involved, we are the only one that wants it all sorted ASAP and barely anything happens til July anyway as everyone is on holiday now. From his perspective he has two good options so is in a strong position with no need to rush anything or make public statements when he himself doesn't know what will happen. Downes certainly went to school in Brentwood, but whilst I agree he has two options, a failure to take our one could see his choices halved, if he go elsewhere. Can see some brinkmanship coming into play on this one, and us potentially lining up our own Plan B, to push forward a conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted Thursday at 09:37 Share Posted Thursday at 09:37 1 hour ago, Pwoite said: Downes certainly went to school in Brentwood, but whilst I agree he has two options, a failure to take our one could see his choices halved, if he go elsewhere. Can see some brinkmanship coming into play on this one, and us potentially lining up our own Plan B, to push forward a conclusion. Since we need re-enforcements there anyway, and relied on Downes being fit last season, hopefully the plan B option is well underway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West end Saints Posted Thursday at 10:20 Share Posted Thursday at 10:20 Although he was superb last season, and clearly a player RM likes, I hope we don't wait too long for him. I had never heard from him 12 months ago, and as a 25 year old who has played more in league 1 them prem , I'm sure there are plenty of DM available of similar level. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swannymere Posted Thursday at 10:30 Share Posted Thursday at 10:30 9 minutes ago, West end Saints said: Although he was superb last season, and clearly a player RM likes, I hope we don't wait too long for him. I had never heard from him 12 months ago, and as a 25 year old who has played more in league 1 them prem , I'm sure there are plenty of DM available of similar level. I'd usually agree but its finding one who slotted in as seamlesly as he did. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West end Saints Posted Thursday at 11:21 Share Posted Thursday at 11:21 Just seen how late seasons starts, maybe 3 games before window shuts?? Suppose not too bad to wait, if he comes as he knows RM's style, but I do worry about signing a player , for a role pivotal to our style, without a preseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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