Summer Transfer Window 2025/26

[Dman]

You'd like to think, we will start to think about giving the club / player a deadline before we move on. 

We can all see how this one is going. By all accounts he's way to good for the championship anyway. 

Another SR masterclass in coming. 

[Give it to Ron]

17 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Datro Fofana

Tourette’s?

[saintant]

2 minutes ago, Dman said:

You'd like to think, we will start to think about giving the club / player a deadline before we move on. 

We can all see how this one is going. By all accounts he's way to good for the championship anyway. 

Another SR masterclass in coming. 

A deadline is only effective if there is not much other interest in the player. As it stands we could set a final date for our offer and the holding club wouldn't give a monkeys.

[coalman]

1 minute ago, saintant said:

A deadline is only effective if there is not much other interest in the player. As it stands we could set a final date for our offer and the holding club wouldn't give a monkeys.

I would imagine a deadline is as much for us as for them. Waiting too long just puts us in a worse position for the next transfer attempt.

[Dman]

3 minutes ago, saintant said:

A deadline is only effective if there is not much other interest in the player. As it stands we could set a final date for our offer and the holding club wouldn't give a monkeys.

Then we move on. Its a simple as that. 

[SaintNewForest]

Sounds like another Gakpo situation, to be honest. 

[Saint Scott]

5 minutes ago, saintant said:

A deadline is only effective if there is not much other interest in the player. As it stands we could set a final date for our offer and the holding club wouldn't give a monkeys.

I disagree. If there is no other interest it's in Krasnodars best interest to cash in now as he walks free next summer

[coalman]

2 minutes ago, SaintNewForest said:

Sounds like another Gakpo situation, to be honest. 

Totally. If he wanted to be a Saints player he would be one by now. He doesn't, and he's making that pretty clear with the media leaks and public statements.

[saintant]

8 minutes ago, Saint Scott said:

I disagree. If there is no other interest it's in Krasnodars best interest to cash in now as he walks free next summer

But it's highly likely there is other interest.

[saintant]

34 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Datro Fofana

Did very well in the league in Norway which is why Chelsea bought him. He's not done much during 3 loan periods though.

[East Kent Saint]

Gakpo had other potential offers and obviously chose Liverpool over Saints . Saints didn't do anything wrong IMHO just didn't have the heft to pull it off 😄

Edited 18 hours ago by East Kent Saint

[gio1saints]

6 minutes ago, saintant said:

But it's highly likely there is other interest.

He’s on the internet 8 hrs ago post match for all the world -it looks to me - like he’s smirking about if there has been another offer. And his answer to that question was “ everyone knows”. 
As if “yes there’s another club interested and I’m interested “ more than “ yes and it’s been saints all along”.  
I think we been played. U less the “ other offer” is our upgrade. But I doubt that. He’s had a bigger club ask I’m sure 
 

 

Edited 20 hours ago by gio1saints

[saintant]

1 minute ago, East Kent Saint said:

Gakpo had other potential offers and obviously chose Liverpool over Saints . Saints didn't do anything wrong IMHO just didn't have the left to pull it off 😄

Other than maybe putting too many eggs in one basket.

[Smirking_Saint]

24 minutes ago, Dman said:

You'd like to think, we will start to think about giving the club / player a deadline before we move on. 

We can all see how this one is going. By all accounts he's way to good for the championship anyway. 

Another SR masterclass in coming. 

If he’s our absolute number 1 target what good is walking away ? We don’t have the biggest dick in the room anymore, so all we can do is our best

Seems like we’ve agreed terms with the player and are making progress with the club, Id rather persue an option thats probably too good for the league rather than dropping to a lower ability player

Honestly.. I don’t mind SR/Gao/Semmens/Lowe critique when its valid but criticism here is pathetic… what do you want them to do exactly

[Smirking_Saint]

7 minutes ago, East Kent Saint said:

Gakpo had other potential offers and obviously chose Liverpool over Saints . Saints didn't do anything wrong IMHO just didn't have the left to pull it off 😄

I had it on reasonable authority that Semmens screwed the deal up by lowballing 

[SW5 SAINT]

49 minutes ago, Appy said:

I’d imagine this is a loan with no option, so I expect we’re staying well away from that as it just means we’d need to address the position again in a year. 

We will have to do that anyway with most positions, if we are lucky enough to get promoted. 

[Dman]

5 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said:

If he’s our absolute number 1 target what good is walking away ? We don’t have the biggest dick in the room anymore, so all we can do is our best

Seems like we’ve agreed terms with the player and are making progress with the club, Id rather persue an option thats probably too good for the league rather than dropping to a lower ability player

Honestly.. I don’t mind SR/Gao/Semmens/Lowe critique when its valid but criticism here is pathetic… what do you want them to do exactly

If (a big if) we have internally agreed that we only sell Fernandes once we find a replacement, then I'd agree. 

We don't have the biggest dick in the room but we are also desperate (especially if / when we lose Fernandes), we can't afford to let this run into deadline day just to miss out and be left with our dick between our legs scratching around for a deal at the last minute - which'll inveitably end up being some unknown loan or youngster from the continent.

Biggest dick or not, we need and want players that want to be here. I'm not convinced that is the case here. 

I was pretty clear in what I want them to do. Give themselves a deadline to get this one over the line or move on to plan B,C etc before it becomes a panic buy late in the window.

If the stumbling block is as simple as agreeing a fee with the selling team, and he is our absolute number 1 target, pay what it takes to get the deal done - in the grand scheme of things, we'd be talking about peanuts. 

[gio1saints]

I’d we dont get the guy this has got a Maxwell Cornet rerun written over it…

[SWLondon Saint]

I don't think this is a question of us not offering enough money to either club or player, the main issue here is the player obviously wants a bigger club in a top league and is using us as a back up plan. The question is at what point do we say, OK, we can't deal with this uncertainty and need to switch to a less good target. If the plan B is decent but not as sure-fire a PL level talent, then I can see the argument for waiting a bit longer at least.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

21 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said:

If he’s our absolute number 1 target what good is walking away ? We don’t have the biggest dick in the room anymore, so all we can do is our best

Seems like we’ve agreed terms with the player and are making progress with the club, Id rather persue an option thats probably too good for the league rather than dropping to a lower ability player

Honestly.. I don’t mind SR/Gao/Semmens/Lowe critique when its valid but criticism here is pathetic… what do you want them to do exactly

But there needs to be a point where we have to say enough is enough. If this drags onto the end of the window, and it turns out he is staying in Russia or gets a better deal elsewhere, its going to leave us with precious little time to go for other targets. 

[S-Clarke]

Just now, SWLondon Saint said:

I don't think this is a question of us not offering enough money to either club or player, the main issue here is the player obviously wants a bigger club in a top league and is using us as a back up plan. The question is at what point do we say, OK, we can't deal with this uncertainty and need to switch to a less good target. If the plan B is decent but not as sure-fire a PL level talent, then I can see the argument for waiting a bit longer at least.

I don't think football is as black and what as ''Target A stalled, now let's start on Target B' - we'll be working on multiple at the same time. Some not as good, some just as good. There is an assumption from social media that if we can't get player A over the line, it means we're wasting time when we could be looking at another - that's not the case, we'll have multiple hands in the pie all at the same time.

My concern with hanging on this Eduard deal is that he really doesn't seem sold on coming here. If he was, he'd have been here by now. That's why I think the club should forget this one, as we could lay down a lot of money for someone who turns out to be fairly uncommitted when the going gets tough.

[Lighthouse]

10 minutes ago, Dman said:

If the stumbling block is as simple as agreeing a fee with the selling team, and he is our absolute number 1 target, pay what it takes to get the deal done - in the grand scheme of things, we'd be talking about peanuts. 

I remember a significant number of people saying the same about Orsic. We’ll have an acceptable fee in mind, if Krasnodar won’t accept it then we move on. I wouldn’t expect Everton to ‘just pay whatever it takes to get Dibling’ and neither should we.

[Doctoroncall]

Just now, Lighthouse said:

I remember a significant number of people saying the same about Orsic. We’ll have an acceptable fee in mind, if Krasnodar won’t accept it then we move on. I wouldn’t expect Everton to ‘just pay whatever it takes to get Dibling’ and neither should we.

Also depends on who on our list of alternatives are left and achievable. 
 

Good time to go on holiday and come back on the 1st September. 

[gio1saints]

@coalman I mean that if eduard is our first choice and it does not happen - there’s a good chance it will end up like we are only left with a last minute loan of someone like the Cornet deal - which was a disaster.
Fellowes or Rondoni are  a different type of player we’ve looked at so if the Armenian falls through my hope is that we will push harder for one of those. Except neither look cheap - hence a last minute loan of someone we’ve not yet mentioned is still on the cards..…

[Dman]

1 minute ago, Lighthouse said:

I remember a significant number of people saying the same about Orsic. We’ll have an acceptable fee in mind, if Krasnodar won’t accept it then we move on. I wouldn’t expect Everton to ‘just pay whatever it takes to get Dibling’ and neither should we.

This is exactly what I'm advocating. We're chasing our tail here. 

In reality, the situation is one of these options; 

- He isn't all that keen to join us and/or is holding out for a better option (I suspect this is the case - we need to agree a timeframe to make a decison or we move on)

- We're miles out don't want to pay what they want for him (fernandes West ham vibes - clearly we'd need to move on)

- Everyone is aligned and its small bits of the deal (naturally this is the best case and most unlikley - It is or should be the easiest to resolve. Given our situation, we don't hold many cards, which means we might need to lose ground in negotiations). 

The longer this drags on, the less likley we are to get it across the line and the more likley it is we'll spunk 5-10m on 3rd/4th/5th choice on deadline day. 

[Smirking_Saint]

17 minutes ago, Dman said:

If (a big if) we have internally agreed that we only sell Fernandes once we find a replacement, then I'd agree. 

We don't have the biggest dick in the room but we are also desperate (especially if / when we lose Fernandes), we can't afford to let this run into deadline day just to miss out and be left with our dick between our legs scratching around for a deal at the last minute - which'll inveitably end up being some unknown loan or youngster from the continent.

Biggest dick or not, we need and want players that want to be here. I'm not convinced that is the case here. 

I was pretty clear in what I want them to do. Give themselves a deadline to get this one over the line or move on to plan B,C etc before it becomes a panic buy late in the window.

If the stumbling block is as simple as agreeing a fee with the selling team, and he is our absolute number 1 target, pay what it takes to get the deal done - in the grand scheme of things, we'd be talking about peanuts. 

I cba to go back and forth all day, its late in the London session, NY is on the horizon and Ive got better things to do

We’ve offered what we’ve offered, which seems as good a deal as we can give… what do you want to do now ?

- Offer well over the odds potentially putting us in PSR bother

- Walk away

- Wait it out

A little newsflash… we’re a championship club off the back of possibly the worst Prem performance in recent history… good players aren’t clamouring to be here, so if we have the opportunity to persue one Id like them to carry on

[Smirking_Saint]

10 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

But there needs to be a point where we have to say enough is enough. If this drags onto the end of the window, and it turns out he is staying in Russia or gets a better deal elsewhere, its going to leave us with precious little time to go for other targets. 

I don’t think so, there’s plenty of time left, if this guy ticks all our boxes then I think its worth letting it run for a bit

We clearly had a look at Rudoni and tbh, a lot of the balls havnt started to roll yet and probably won’t until next week when the big clubs start spending

[Dman]

8 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said:

 

We’ve offered what we’ve offered, which seems as good a deal as we can give… what do you want to do now ?

- Offer well over the odds potentially putting us in PSR bother

- Walk away

- Wait it out

 

Tell him, his agent, his club we need a decision by x or we will move on to alternative options, before it is too late in the day. 

x could be 1 day, 1 week or 10am deadline day - that's for the club to decide how and what they have in the pipeline. Personally, if its not done by the end of this week, I'd be looking to move onto other targets. 

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. 

[Lighthouse]

29 minutes ago, Dman said:

This is exactly what I'm advocating. We're chasing our tail here. 

In reality, the situation is one of these options; 

- He isn't all that keen to join us and/or is holding out for a better option (I suspect this is the case - we need to agree a timeframe to make a decison or we move on)

- We're miles out don't want to pay what they want for him (fernandes West ham vibes - clearly we'd need to move on)

- Everyone is aligned and its small bits of the deal (naturally this is the best case and most unlikley - It is or should be the easiest to resolve. Given our situation, we don't hold many cards, which means we might need to lose ground in negotiations). 

The longer this drags on, the less likley we are to get it across the line and the more likley it is we'll spunk 5-10m on 3rd/4th/5th choice on deadline day. 

This is all built on assumption and impatience. The clubs clearly feel there is a worthwhile deal to pursue and that an acceptable price is within reach. There're still two weeks of the transfer window to go, you've no idea what deadlines the club have imposed on this deal and whether or not they'll go to the final day.

[tdmickey3]

59 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

I remember a significant number of people saying the same about Orsic. We’ll have an acceptable fee in mind, if Krasnodar won’t accept it then we move on. I wouldn’t expect Everton to ‘just pay whatever it takes to get Dibling’ and neither should we.

I wouldn't want to either but this all depends on how much we want him, same with Everton

Edited 18 hours ago by tdmickey3

[Dman]

32 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

This is all built on assumption and impatience. The clubs clearly feel there is a worthwhile deal to pursue and that an acceptable price is within reach. There're still two weeks of the transfer window to go, you've no idea what deadlines the club have imposed on this deal and whether or not they'll go to the final day.

Impatience or experience? 

As per my orginal post, you'd like to think the club have started to think about it 👍

[Suhari]

So the UI rumour of us getting 3 loans in last week, including a RB and someone the club 'is very excited about' didn't pan out.

It does seem pretty damn quiet on signings, and lots to do. All going to be a bit lastminute.com I think.

[S-Clarke]

8 minutes ago, Suhari said:

So the UI rumour of us getting 3 loans in last week, including a RB and someone the club 'is very excited about' didn't pan out.

It does seem pretty damn quiet on signings, and lots to do. All going to be a bit lastminute.com I think.

It may end up looking last minute, but that isn't always the true story. A lot of wheels are put in motion weeks and weeks in advance, we're just waiting for other things to fall - when they do fall, we'll have all our ducks in a row and we can move. But given the nature of how transfer windows roll, it's probably going to be a case of waiting until the end for everything to fall into place (outside of our control), so it may look last min but it genuinely isn't.

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

I may be riding a wave of new found optimism after 3 games unbeaten under the ginger genius but I have a funny feeling Spertyman (or whatever he’s called) will sign for us. It’s based on nothing in particular and I’m sure such positivity will be soon ruined by our usual crap result at home to Stoke.

[Wsaint]

28 minutes ago, Ivan Katalinic's 'tache said:

I may be riding a wave of new found optimism after 3 games unbeaten under the ginger genius but I have a funny feeling Spertyman (or whatever he’s called) will sign for us. It’s based on nothing in particular and I’m sure such positivity will be soon ruined by our usual crap result at home to Stoke.

There's no place for your optimism here on hysteriaweb, away with you!

 

For what it's worth I agree with you. I'm certainly going to wait until something actually happens before classing Spertyman (it's sticking) as a Judas.

[Chez]

1 hour ago, Suhari said:

So the UI rumour of us getting 3 loans in last week, including a RB and someone the club 'is very excited about' didn't pan out.

It does seem pretty damn quiet on signings, and lots to do. All going to be a bit lastminute.com I think.

I'd expect any loans to happen in the last week of the window, once permanent transfers are pretty much in place and clubs know what they have to work with. 
I'd be surprised if we signed a winger (or two) until there were some departures. That's out of our control.
Not overly concerned. It's pretty standard pace/activity. It's a long season. The 4 points from 2 games means we have not lost too much ground. 

[jamesfp1]

Any decent rumours?

[Saintsarmy]

1 minute ago, jamesfp1 said:

Any decent rumours?

don't be silly! have to sell before we can buy because the squad is so big as we've been told 300 times 🥱 despite looking short of ideas in attack throughout all 3 games so far

[Turkish]

3 hours ago, Suhari said:

So the UI rumour of us getting 3 loans in last week, including a RB and someone the club 'is very excited about' didn't pan out.

It does seem pretty damn quiet on signings, and lots to do. All going to be a bit lastminute.com I think.

didn't pan out? Has the transfer window shut early?

[Smirking_Saint]

The more I look at the squad the more i think we need a reliable RB

Fraser is ok in a 5

But none of our options are good enough for a 4 back

[St. Ciervo]

5 hours ago, Dman said:

If (a big if) we have internally agreed that we only sell Fernandes once we find a replacement, then I'd agree. 

We don't have the biggest dick in the room but we are also desperate (especially if / when we lose Fernandes), we can't afford to let this run into deadline day just to miss out and be left with our dick between our legs scratching around for a deal at the last minute - which'll inveitably end up being some unknown loan or youngster from the continent.

Biggest dick or not, we need and want players that want to be here. I'm not convinced that is the case here. 

I was pretty clear in what I want them to do. Give themselves a deadline to get this one over the line or move on to plan B,C etc before it becomes a panic buy late in the window.

If the stumbling block is as simple as agreeing a fee with the selling team, and he is our absolute number 1 target, pay what it takes to get the deal done - in the grand scheme of things, we'd be talking about peanuts. 

Seems all we are left with after this post is a bag of dicks.

[Turkish]

3 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said:

The more I look at the squad the more i think we need a reliable RB

Fraser is ok in a 5

But none of our options are good enough for a 4 back

Sugawara is pony and Bree has never really convinced although IMO he's better than he's given credit for on here, he's certainly better defensively than Sugawara who looks a liability. 

[Lee On Solent Saint]

3 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Sugawara is pony and Bree has never really convinced although IMO he's better than he's given credit for on here, he's certainly better defensively than Sugawara who looks a liability. 

Better defensively, but offers absolutely nothing going forward. 

[Turkish]

Just now, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Better defensively, but offers absolutely nothing going forward. 

FACT

Although didn't he scored an absolute belter v cardiff in least seasons league cup? Dont see that in Sugawaras locker. If we're going for a back 4 i'd go with a Bree over Sugawara but neither are ideal

[Holmes_and_Watson]

1 minute ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Better defensively, but offers absolutely nothing going forward. 

Before he joined us, I'm sure I read that one of Bree's strengths was to get the ball into tall attackers with deep crosses. The sort of thing we saw Manning do a week ago. He was rated as one of Luton's better players at the time.

[S-Clarke]

All seems very past tense. It's done.

Quote

 

Post-match interview with Spertsyan (RB Sport

— Do transfer rumors affect your game?
— No, they don’t. My job is to play football and help the team achieve results.

— You had a personal conversation with club president Sergey Galitsky. What was it about?
— That’s my personal conversation with the president, and it will remain between us.

— What do you say about Southampton’s interest?
— Yes, everyone already knows, the interest was real. I can’t say anything about negotiations — the club handled that.

— Was this your last game for Krasnodar?
— Oh, come on, don’t push it! It’s too early to talk about that. Let’s leave this topic aside.

— Did you have direct contact with Southampton?
— Personally, no. That’s what my agent should deal with.

— Can Gaëtan Perrin become your replacement?
— He is a very good footballer, but that’s for the club to decide, not me.

 

Edited 14 hours ago by S-Clarke

[Lee On Solent Saint]

2 minutes ago, Turkish said:

FACT

Although didn't he scored an absolute belter v cardiff in least seasons league cup? Dont see that in Sugawaras locker. If we're going for a back 4 i'd go with a Bree over Sugawara but neither are ideal

Think he did it twice to be fair, can't think of the other game though. Agree he would be a better bet than Sugawara though. 

[Lee On Solent Saint]

6 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Before he joined us, I'm sure I read that one of Bree's strengths was to get the ball into tall attackers with deep crosses. The sort of thing we saw Manning do a week ago. He was rated as one of Luton's better players at the time.

Yeah, I think he was. 

[S-Clarke]

13 minutes ago, Turkish said:

FACT

Although didn't he scored an absolute belter v cardiff in least seasons league cup? Dont see that in Sugawaras locker. If we're going for a back 4 i'd go with a Bree over Sugawara but neither are ideal

To be fair, he did smack the post against Northampton from far out. I think he has got it in his locker, that Bree goal was a bit of a WTF moment though.

There's no way Bree fits Stills style imo, not even close. He didn't even fit Martin's style.

He's your typical PNE type steady Championship clogger, we need better than him.  I'd be totally up for a new RB.

Edited 14 hours ago by S-Clarke

[Saint Scott]

23 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

All seems very past tense. It's done.

I've seen a lot of people reading too much into his interviews, in my opinion.

His comments are translated from Russian (I presume). Picking out individual words like "is" and "was" cannot be taken literally. 

Let's see what happens this week. We all know he would prefer to play in the PL or a team in European competition, who wouldn't?

But, we're not out of the running yet.

Edited 14 hours ago by Saint Scott