Chez Posted Thursday at 14:11 Posted Thursday at 14:11 38 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said: Yep but not a piss take... Like the £27m offer for Dibling from Everton?
Monk Posted Thursday at 14:15 Posted Thursday at 14:15 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: I don't personally right now, but TBF most on here thought that team was the best in the League - better than Leeds & Leicester. All the experts think Shea could be the best midfielder in the league this year, so that's certainly a positive and better than Smallbone from 2023. KWP is a loss, but don't think anyone else really is versus that 2023 team, and at the moment we have Dibling and Fernandes as well. Where do you think we're weaker? 9 minutes ago, SWLondon Saint said: I'd say we're roughly similar. Swap Adams for Archer, both great in the champ. Bednarek for Quarshie - different strengths. Stu Armstrong I'd say we miss, and KWP. But we have a much better version of Charles than last time, and Edwards. Also Jay Robinson and Sesay look promising. Add Sugawara and Welington and you've got a decent number of options at least. tbh... it's hard to argue your points really lads. It might be just be me being bit of a fanny. I'm basing it on Dibling and Edozie going without being replaced significantly... Fellows doesn't quite do it for me from what I've seen (rather limited). Edited Thursday at 14:19 by Monk
Chez Posted Thursday at 14:20 Posted Thursday at 14:20 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: KWP is a loss, but don't think anyone else really is versus that 2023 team, and at the moment we have Dibling and Fernandes as well. Where do you think we're weaker? Stuart Armstrong was pretty good in 2023. I thought his first touch and abililty to do things at pace stood out a lot at Championship level. Adams did OK too, giving us a focal point. Not see anyone in the current squad really do that, yet. Bednarek was our best central defender. need to see more of Edwards and Quarshie to decide if we are weaker or stringer. Brooks added some flair at times. At the moment it looks like Robinson will be the one to offer that, but you'd imagine Fernandes and Dibling will be replaced - so we will have some creativity. So, all those three areas might considered weaker, but its early days, he says two days before the season starts. Edited Thursday at 14:21 by Chez 4
Smirking_Saint Posted Thursday at 14:20 Posted Thursday at 14:20 26 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: 43:47 Preview of Southampton for this season They think we have an absurd squad for this level. Well we do We just have a ton of bedwetters, majority of our first 11 get into 90% of squads at this level 2 2
SWLondon Saint Posted Thursday at 14:21 Posted Thursday at 14:21 8 minutes ago, Chez said: Like the £27m offer for Dibling from Everton? Well exactly. People on here can get excited about Rudoni as a replacement, but the fact is he was their player of the season last year and they'll only let him go to a rival if they absolutely pull our pants down on the price. And knowing we're trying to get £50m for Dibling, they'll be thinking they should get most of that for Rudoni, which I don't think makes much sense for us.
Dman Posted Thursday at 14:25 Posted Thursday at 14:25 4 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said: Well we do We just have a ton of bedwetters, majority of our first 11 get into 90% of squads at this level Maybe - We've been poor in pre-season however. Lets hope it clicks and quickly. 4
BERMUDASAINT Posted Thursday at 14:25 Posted Thursday at 14:25 16 minutes ago, SWLondon Saint said: Mm. Yes, Rudoni looks decent, but I would guess Coventry would want at least £25-30 million for him so I don't see it happening unless they're in financial distress. At that price I would perfer Romulo from our multi club system, otherwise what is the point. Rb lip has not completed deal....always hoped we could get him after some big sales. Would show real intent. Being relegated did not help!! 1
revolution saint Posted Thursday at 14:29 Posted Thursday at 14:29 2 minutes ago, SWLondon Saint said: Well exactly. People on here can get excited about Rudoni as a replacement, but the fact is he was their player of the season last year and they'll only let him go to a rival if they absolutely pull our pants down on the price. And knowing we're trying to get £50m for Dibling, they'll be thinking they should get most of that for Rudoni, which I don't think makes much sense for us. Rudoni was left out of the last pre-season game "injured". He'll obviously kick off and have a major sulk if denied his dream move to us and we've all seen how this goes. Ultimately Coventry will be forced to sell and probably for a lot less than they originally wanted. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if they end up having to take BBD as part payment and be grateful for it. 1
Chez Posted Thursday at 14:29 Posted Thursday at 14:29 5 minutes ago, SWLondon Saint said: Well exactly. People on here can get excited about Rudoni as a replacement, but the fact is he was their player of the season last year and they'll only let him go to a rival if they absolutely pull our pants down on the price. And knowing we're trying to get £50m for Dibling, they'll be thinking they should get most of that for Rudoni, which I don't think makes much sense for us. That's one of the major drawbacks of buying 'best of the championship', which I think most on here like the idea of. The other clubs don't want to sell to a rival and the price can be very high is there are years left on a contract. Rudoni is one year into a four year contract. Cov hold most of the cards. 1
Chez Posted Thursday at 14:31 Posted Thursday at 14:31 Just now, revolution saint said: Rudoni was left out of the last pre-season game "injured". He'll obviously kick off and have a major sulk if denied his dream move to us and we've all seen how this goes. Ultimately Coventry will be forced to sell and probably for a lot less than they originally wanted. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if they end up having to take BBD as part payment and be grateful for it. My guess is Coventry dig their heals in very hard indeed. Both clubs have ambitions of promotion, so we are a sideways move, parachute payments apart.
tdmickey3 Posted Thursday at 14:32 Posted Thursday at 14:32 20 minutes ago, Chez said: Like the £27m offer for Dibling from Everton? We have likely offered 2m 1
Chez Posted Thursday at 14:33 Posted Thursday at 14:33 27 minutes ago, SWLondon Saint said: Mm. Yes, Rudoni looks decent, but I would guess Coventry would want at least £25-30 million for him so I don't see it happening unless they're in financial distress. You might be right. Can't see us paying that kind of money.
hypochondriac Posted Thursday at 14:33 Posted Thursday at 14:33 4 minutes ago, Chez said: That's one of the major drawbacks of buying 'best of the championship', which I think most on here like the idea of. The other clubs don't want to sell to a rival and the price can be very high is there are years left on a contract. Rudoni is one year into a four year contract. Cov hold most of the cards. We should have signed him last season.
SWLondon Saint Posted Thursday at 14:34 Posted Thursday at 14:34 4 minutes ago, revolution saint said: Rudoni was left out of the last pre-season game "injured". He'll obviously kick off and have a major sulk if denied his dream move to us and we've all seen how this goes. Ultimately Coventry will be forced to sell and probably for a lot less than they originally wanted. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if they end up having to take BBD as part payment and be grateful for it. Did you copy paste that from the Everton forum post about Dibling? 😂 2
Chez Posted Thursday at 14:35 Posted Thursday at 14:35 (edited) 3 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said: We have likely offered 2m don't be daft. The Spertsyan offer was supposedly about £11m. We will have offered about £8m + add ons. Edited Thursday at 14:36 by Chez
revolution saint Posted Thursday at 14:35 Posted Thursday at 14:35 1 minute ago, Chez said: My guess is Coventry dig their heals in very hard indeed. Both clubs have ambitions of promotion, so we are a sideways move, parachute payments apart. Yeah, I was joking. Big test of resolve for Coventry and I'd imagine both player and club would have been hoping that if a bid comes in then it would be from a premier league club. Will be interesting to see how this one pans out. 1
tdmickey3 Posted Thursday at 14:36 Posted Thursday at 14:36 Just now, Chez said: don't be daft. We will have offered about £8m + add ons. OK, what is Coventry`s valuation
Bakovnetski Posted Thursday at 14:39 Posted Thursday at 14:39 (edited) https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2025/08/07/leeds-strategy-staying-premier-league-sign-massive-men/ Interesting read that Leeds have taken the approach that some of us have called for in that we bring in proper athletes and units for PL life rather than lightweights. Granted that Quarshie and Downs fit the bill. Edited Thursday at 14:42 by Bakovnetski 1
Saint Matty 76 Posted Thursday at 14:44 Posted Thursday at 14:44 Jack Rosser, one of the few with clear club ties, reporting a bid for one of the best players in the league hours before the board go in front of the fans, give over. 😆 5
Farmer Saint Posted Thursday at 14:46 Posted Thursday at 14:46 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Monk said: tbh... it's hard to argue your points really lads. It might be just be me being bit of a fanny. I'm basing it on Dibling and Edozie going without being replaced significantly... Fellows doesn't quite do it for me from what I've seen (rather limited). I don't think we can really make that judgement on Dibling and Edozie and replacements as it hasn't happened yet. If we sold them, and Fernandes, and didn't replace with decent players I'd be very disappointed, but I really don't think that will happen. As we know, a lot of our recruitment for this season was done last season (Archer, BBD, Wood, Edwards, Taylor, Sanda, Wellington, Fraser) so we were already in a strong position for this year. It is disappointing that we haven't purchased much, but then again not a lot was really needed. What we did need to do was get rid of the high paid dross (Bednarek, Onuachu, Lallana, Sulemana, KWP*, Ramsdale*). This will help no end with PSR and not leave us in much of a worse position. Hopefully we can ship Aribo as another very high earner, and I would want to lose BBD as don't like him. *These players clearly aren't dross, but are not needed at this level/wages. Edited Thursday at 14:54 by Farmer Saint
tdmickey3 Posted Thursday at 14:50 Posted Thursday at 14:50 4 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said: Jack Rosser, one of the few with clear club ties, reporting a bid for one of the best players in the league hours before the board go in front of the fans, give over. 😆 Don`t be so cynical, its all going to be fine.....................apparently
gio1saints Posted Thursday at 14:52 Posted Thursday at 14:52 Rudoni is valued as at least £10M. Fits our profile for sure. Coventry will probably want north of £15m for him. Especially from us. Think they paid £5m only last summer. Given the above I imagine Saints offer was something like £8m-£9m plus promotion bonuses. And with this story and the Fellowes one doesn’t it look for all the world like we are trying to get the Tyler replacement in and cheaply BEFORE the world knows we just trousered £40m+ for him and we start getting quoted Tyler Dibling inflated prices? If he remains fit, plays (well) and we go in with c £12m plus up to £3m from sone promotion clauses we might get a deal..
Chez Posted Thursday at 14:53 Posted Thursday at 14:53 13 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said: OK, what is Coventry`s valuation Top Championship players that the PL clubs don't think are good enough...£15m (the agreed Hackney fee was £14m, seems a good guide) 1
for_heaven's_Saint Posted Thursday at 14:53 Posted Thursday at 14:53 8 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said: Jack Rosser, one of the few with clear club ties, reporting a bid for one of the best players in the league hours before the board go in front of the fans, give over. 😆 My thoughts exactly!
LGTL Posted Thursday at 14:55 Posted Thursday at 14:55 10 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said: Jack Rosser, one of the few with clear club ties, reporting a bid for one of the best players in the league hours before the board go in front of the fans, give over. 😆 Yep. ‘Oh we’re trying so hard, honestly, we are’. 1
Wade Garrett Posted Thursday at 14:58 Posted Thursday at 14:58 SR would get a lot of goodwill if we sign Rudoni and Fellows. Chuck the Stoke keeper in as well. 4
Farmer Saint Posted Thursday at 15:01 Posted Thursday at 15:01 34 minutes ago, Dman said: Maybe - We've been poor in pre-season however. Lets hope it clicks and quickly. Pre-season is pre-season. We had a really decent pre-season last year: 2
Farmer Saint Posted Thursday at 15:04 Posted Thursday at 15:04 8 minutes ago, LGTL said: Yep. ‘Oh we’re trying so hard, honestly, we are’. Buying players has never really been an issue from SR - that was more under Gao. Buying good players has been the issue. 2
Farmer Saint Posted Thursday at 15:21 Posted Thursday at 15:21 Just listening to some more analysis, exciting signings and players to watch for this season include Cristoph Klarer and Thierry Small. This league is pretty garbage. 1
Saint NL Posted Thursday at 15:52 Posted Thursday at 15:52 1 hour ago, Farmer Saint said: 43:47 Preview of Southampton for this season They think we have an absurd squad for this level. Apparently our squad is so good, even Wayne Rooney could get them promoted. That's good enough for me, I'm off to get "Southampton FC, Championship winners 2025/26" tattooed across my bellend. 3
Badger Posted Thursday at 16:03 Posted Thursday at 16:03 2 hours ago, Chez said: ...at last we start to get the nice part of the transfer window (with losing you best talent being the bad part)...the hope and excitement links to players like Rudoni, Spertsyan and Fellows. 2 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: I'd guess it would be one or the other between those two if being eyed for the AMC role in the 4231. From the little I've seen or read of these two they're different types of player. Spertsyan looks to be a bit more agile, creative and a better ball player (in the Tadic mold as someone suggested), and Rudoni offers a bit more power and height. Fellows also looks creative and could play more of an out and out winger if needed, 1
Saint_lambden Posted Thursday at 16:04 Posted Thursday at 16:04 1 hour ago, Saint Matty 76 said: Jack Rosser, one of the few with clear club ties, reporting a bid for one of the best players in the league hours before the board go in front of the fans, give over. 😆 Agree on the timing front but the bid was genuine, though not sure how much it was actually for. Cov want at least £20m up front apparently plus add-ons so similar ballpark to what it would cost to get Fellows in. Both would be perfect for Still's system/style so hopefully we kick on and get them done rather than posturing. 1
tdmickey3 Posted Thursday at 16:04 Posted Thursday at 16:04 11 minutes ago, Saint NL said: Apparently our squad is so good, even Wayne Rooney could get them promoted. That's good enough for me, I'm off to get "Southampton FC, Championship winners 2025/26" tattooed across my bellend. Small font ? 3
Willo of Whiteley Posted Thursday at 16:06 Posted Thursday at 16:06 Lennon Miller Jesuren Rak-Sakyi Jack Rudoni Plus maybe another wide player and full back would be nice
Badger Posted Thursday at 16:07 Posted Thursday at 16:07 11 minutes ago, Saint NL said: Apparently our squad is so good, even Wayne Rooney could get them promoted. That's good enough for me, I'm off to get "Southampton FC, Championship winners 2025/26" tattooed across my bellend. Good for you. May not be seen by another living person of course so don't be too embarrassed if we don't win it. On the other hand, be careful when going for a slash (or dogging/cottaging if that's your thing) in PO postcode areas,
lambtiss Posted Thursday at 16:09 Posted Thursday at 16:09 15 minutes ago, Saint NL said: Apparently our squad is so good, even Wayne Rooney could get them promoted. That's good enough for me, I'm off to get "Southampton FC, Championship winners 2025/26" tattooed across my bellend. SFC will fit better, so I've heard 2
Saint NL Posted Thursday at 16:12 Posted Thursday at 16:12 7 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said: Small font ? Comic Sans ofc
Saint86 Posted Thursday at 16:32 Posted Thursday at 16:32 (edited) 1 hour ago, Wade Garrett said: SR would get a lot of goodwill if we sign Rudoni and Fellows. Chuck the Stoke keeper in as well. Really? We'd be selling a prized jewel for circa £40M and spending 25 of it minimum on two players that won't be good enough next season. It would be pretty shit business given he's already better than both of them in my book, and with a far far higher ceiling. The reality is that whoever we get in to replace dibling and Fernandes needs to be good enough for the prem next season, or it's wasted spend that we'll need to repeat. The only player I've seen linked so far that I would be happy with is Édouard Spertsyan (who is absolute class and I wish to god we'd had spors in last summer as he would have made a huge difference last season). If we spend £10-15M on fellows it will be a shocking investment in comparison - a similar amount of money to the rumoured Spertsyan fee for a pretty average champ player. Edited Thursday at 16:34 by Saint86 2
Matty's Caddy Posted Thursday at 16:44 Posted Thursday at 16:44 6 minutes ago, Saint86 said: Really? We'd be selling a prized jewel for circa £40M and spending 25 of it minimum on two players that won't be good enough next season. It would be pretty shit business given he's already better than both of them in my book, and with a far far higher ceiling. The reality is that whoever we get in to replace dibling and Fernandes needs to be good enough for the prem next season, or it's wasted spend that we'll need to repeat. The only player I've seen linked so far that I would be happy with is Édouard Spertsyan (who is absolute class and I wish to god we'd had spors in last summer as he would have made a huge difference last season). If we spend £10-15M on fellows it will be a shocking investment in comparison - a similar amount of money to the rumoured Spertsyan fee for a pretty average champ player. Quick reminder, dibling won’t sign a new contract and wants to leave. it’s not our choice to sell him, it’s a financial necessity. can’t remember how much Maddison went for before he made his name but you have to make an educated punt at some point
Smirking_Saint Posted Thursday at 16:48 Posted Thursday at 16:48 2 hours ago, Bakovnetski said: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2025/08/07/leeds-strategy-staying-premier-league-sign-massive-men/ Interesting read that Leeds have taken the approach that some of us have called for in that we bring in proper athletes and units for PL life rather than lightweights. Granted that Quarshie and Downs fit the bill. Unfortunately we put faith in Russell Martins eye Charlie Taylor and Ryan Fraser…..
manji Posted Thursday at 16:50 Posted Thursday at 16:50 We will already have a map of this windows coming and goings with the various options again money isn’t the main issue and it’s not a brilliant League factor in the amount of games so plenty of wiggle room both Leicester and Saints lost 11 games.Autos the aim and we are planning for the EPL (Quarshie) looks alright to me. Spors started work early around February, Backstage appointments have been methodical .Will Still he knew a lot about the club and I think it would take a lot for him to lose the dressing room or even the fans. I’ve just scrolled down the squad it’s good if Fernandez and or Dibling go like I mentioned there replacements will be in place . looking forward to it. I’m pragmatic but I really want us to beat Wrexham let’s get our first win in quickly 1
manji Posted Thursday at 16:53 Posted Thursday at 16:53 18 minutes ago, Saint86 said: Really? We'd be selling a prized jewel for circa £40M and spending 25 of it minimum on two players that won't be good enough next season. It would be pretty shit business given he's already better than both of them in my book, and with a far far higher ceiling. The reality is that whoever we get in to replace dibling and Fernandes needs to be good enough for the prem next season, or it's wasted spend that we'll need to repeat. The only player I've seen linked so far that I would be happy with is Édouard Spertsyan (who is absolute class and I wish to god we'd had spors in last summer as he would have made a huge difference last season). If we spend £10-15M on fellows it will be a shocking investment in comparison - a similar amount of money to the rumoured Spertsyan fee for a pretty average champ player. Completely agree newbs need to be for the Prem next season 1 1
saintant Posted Thursday at 16:56 Posted Thursday at 16:56 3 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said: It's just the way that all transfer negotiations work. Or any kind of auction for that matter. You have an idea in your head what's the maximum you're prepared to pay before walking away, then you start much lower than that. There would be much louder alarm bells if the club were going in close to Cov's valuation with our very first bid. So basically wasting everyone's time until we decide whether to make a sensible offer. 1 1
Badger Posted Thursday at 17:00 Posted Thursday at 17:00 23 minutes ago, Saint86 said: Really? We'd be selling a prized jewel for circa £40M and spending 25 of it minimum on two players that won't be good enough next season. It would be pretty shit business given he's already better than both of them in my book, and with a far far higher ceiling. The reality is that whoever we get in to replace dibling and Fernandes needs to be good enough for the prem next season, or it's wasted spend that we'll need to repeat. The only player I've seen linked so far that I would be happy with is Édouard Spertsyan (who is absolute class and I wish to god we'd had spors in last summer as he would have made a huge difference last season). If we spend £10-15M on fellows it will be a shocking investment in comparison - a similar amount of money to the rumoured Spertsyan fee for a pretty average champ player. Agree with the gist of what you say, and from the Steve De Ridder-scope (Youtube), Spertsyan looks a class above other names (which is why he's more ambitious than a Championship club). But don't agree in your comments re Fellows who although not in the Spertsyan class perhaps, also looks pretty impressive and a good prospect, not an average champ player. 1
benjii Posted Thursday at 17:02 Posted Thursday at 17:02 29 minutes ago, Saint86 said: Really? We'd be selling a prized jewel for circa £40M and spending 25 of it minimum on two players that won't be good enough next season. It would be pretty shit business given he's already better than both of them in my book, and with a far far higher ceiling. The reality is that whoever we get in to replace dibling and Fernandes needs to be good enough for the prem next season, or it's wasted spend that we'll need to repeat. The only player I've seen linked so far that I would be happy with is Édouard Spertsyan (who is absolute class and I wish to god we'd had spors in last summer as he would have made a huge difference last season). If we spend £10-15M on fellows it will be a shocking investment in comparison - a similar amount of money to the rumoured Spertsyan fee for a pretty average champ player. Maybe Sperysysywn isn't interested?
richardc Posted Thursday at 17:21 Posted Thursday at 17:21 2 hours ago, Smirking_Saint said: Well we do We just have a ton of bedwetters, majority of our first 11 get into 90% of squads at this level its not the 90% we are worried about - its the 10% being better than us ie the top two and having to go through the playoffs lottery
Wade Garrett Posted Thursday at 17:30 Posted Thursday at 17:30 57 minutes ago, Saint86 said: Really? We'd be selling a prized jewel for circa £40M and spending 25 of it minimum on two players that won't be good enough next season. It would be pretty shit business given he's already better than both of them in my book, and with a far far higher ceiling. The reality is that whoever we get in to replace dibling and Fernandes needs to be good enough for the prem next season, or it's wasted spend that we'll need to repeat. The only player I've seen linked so far that I would be happy with is Édouard Spertsyan (who is absolute class and I wish to god we'd had spors in last summer as he would have made a huge difference last season). If we spend £10-15M on fellows it will be a shocking investment in comparison - a similar amount of money to the rumoured Spertsyan fee for a pretty average champ player. I didn’t actually mention selling anyone. Just saying.
Tommy Mulgrew Posted Thursday at 18:14 Posted Thursday at 18:14 Leicester sell Hermansen to Hammers: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c87e1l3zgv7o They will be looking for a goalkeeper, too, now.
saintant Posted Thursday at 18:47 Posted Thursday at 18:47 1 hour ago, Smirking_Saint said: Unfortunately we put faith in Russell Martins eye Charlie Taylor and Ryan Fraser….. Charlie Taylor is 5'9" so a decent size for a full back....plum.
saintant Posted Thursday at 18:49 Posted Thursday at 18:49 1 hour ago, benjii said: Maybe Sperysysywn isn't interested? Get him to have a chat with Will Still and he'll find everything interesting 🙂
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