Has Autumn Come Earlier This Year?

[sadoldgit]

The harvests around here have started much earlier than usual. For the last two weeks I have seen mushrooms in the fields that don’t usually appear until later in September/October. The berries are fuller and riper earlier than usual and some trees are starting to shed leaves already. Strange to see signs of Autumn mid August and with the weather still so warm.

[mack rill]

Said the same thing to her indoors, I worked all my life outside, and have noticed the same as you 

First heavy dew normally heralds the end of summer. We need it to stay this warm but wetter, then it's into the cows' fields for real mushrooms.

[whelk]

Leaves falling, berries ripe, but it's hot. Is autumn coming early? https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2enmn7j3zjo
 

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, whelk said:

Leaves falling, berries ripe, but it's hot. Is autumn coming early? https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2enmn7j3zjo
 

Some of the local trees have started turning colour on their leaves. I put it down to a lack of water getting to the roots through the lesser rainfall. Blackberries started getting ripe in late July, heat accelerating them and then we had that few days of rain in early August - perfect for them. 

[Farmer Saint]

My plums, apples and grapes have come in very early this year (well, at least a month).

Rye etc came in normal time this year though.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

6 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

My plums, apples and grapes have come in very early this year (well, at least a month).

Rye etc came in normal time this year though.

Sorry to hear about your premature plums, Farmer.

 

Edit:The Beeb have just been in touch to say I'm no longer required for Farming Today. Outrage!

[badgerx16]

28 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

My plums, apples and grapes have come in very early this year (well, at least a month).

Rye etc came in normal time this year though.

Not sure about fruiting early, but our apple and plum trees have been laden, and the raspberries, blackcurrants, and peas have hardly stopped cropping. It's also the first year the apricot tree has fruited.

The Passion flowers have been flowering now for about 2 months, with no sign of stopping.

Edited August 17 by badgerx16

[Weston Super Saint]

Maybe it's just last years' autumn rocking up late?

[Raging Bull]

Took the dog for a long walk in the woods earlier today and got caught short… 

1 thing I noticed when I was walking out was that all the leaves were brown. 

[Sheaf Saint]

7 hours ago, Raging Bull said:

Took the dog for a long walk in the woods earlier today and got caught short… 

1 thing I noticed when I was walking out was that all the leaves were brown. 

Was the sky grey as well? If that was the case while you went for your walk then it seems we might have skipped autumn already, because that sounds like a winter's day.

[Sheaf Saint]

It's not the early onset of autumn as such, it's just the shortage of rain across the country has had a huge impact. 

I liaise with the NFU at lot at work and the message from them has been clear: the optimum harvest time has come much earlier for many crops this year due to the exceptionally dry spring we had, and if left any later a lot of them would have started to decay. 

The medium range forecast for the next couple of weeks looks very dry as well (it's all linked to the position of the Jetstream), so the drought conditions are likely to extend well into autumn/winter this year. And if we get less than the long term average rainfall between now and next April, the aquifers and reservoirs won't recharge sufficiently and we'll have restrictions well into next summer as well.

https://charts.ecmwf.int/products/medium-mslp-rain?base_time=202508171200&interval=6&projection=opencharts_europe&valid_time=202508171800

Edited Monday at 06:13 by Sheaf Saint

[Gloucester Saint]

That’s only some of the plums from our trees last month

[Turkish]

i dont remember it being 28 degrees in Autumn before, so no.

[Turkish]

2 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said:

It's not the early onset of autumn as such, it's just the shortage of rain across the country has had a huge impact. 

I liaise with the NFU at lot at work and the message from them has been clear: the optimum harvest time has come much earlier for many crops this year due to the exceptionally dry spring we had, and if left any later a lot of them would have started to decay. 

The medium range forecast for the next couple of weeks looks very dry as well (it's all linked to the position of the Jetstream), so the drought conditions are likely to extend well into autumn/winter this year. And if we get less than the long term average rainfall between now and next April, the aquifers and reservoirs won't recharge sufficiently and we'll have restrictions well into next summer as well.

https://charts.ecmwf.int/products/medium-mslp-rain?base_time=202508171200&interval=6&projection=opencharts_europe&valid_time=202508171800

Drought conditions 😂

[trousers]

7 minutes ago, Turkish said:

i dont remember it being 28 degrees in Autumn before, so no.

 

[Turkish]

1 minute ago, trousers said:

 

The sun always shines on Kent! must be to welcome all the immigrants coming in there off the boats with weather they are used to

[Sheaf Saint]

10 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Drought conditions 😂

What exactly is it you find funny about this? 

As a resident of Yorkshire, you should be aware of the shortages and the hosepipe ban in place. Yorkshire Water are in the process of applying for numerous emergency drought permits because their reservoir stocks are severely depleted, and with no significant rain forecast this isn't going to magically resolve itself anytime soon.

[Turkish]

7 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

What exactly is it you find funny about this? 

As a resident of Yorkshire, you should be aware of the shortages and the hosepipe ban in place. Yorkshire Water are in the process of applying for numerous emergency drought permits because their reservoir stocks are severely depleted, and with no significant rain forecast this isn't going to magically resolve itself anytime soon.

Dont worry Sheaf, i've switched my quid a month direct debit for fresh water in Africa to Yorkshire, given we can give millions of kids fresh water that way it only needs a handful of us to do it and we can save the country

[Sheaf Saint]

14 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Dont worry Sheaf, i've switched my quid a month direct debit for fresh water in Africa to Yorkshire, given we can give millions of kids fresh water that way it only needs a handful of us to do it and we can save the country

Ah, so you simply don't understand the definition of drought then. Gotcha.

[Turkish]

16 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Ah, so you simply don't understand the definition of drought then. Gotcha.

Everything is so serious with you all the time isn't it, funnily enough when i made my original post i wondered how long it would be for you to put up a graph or picture, you exceeded my expectations. 

[Sheaf Saint]

13 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Everything is so serious with you all the time isn't it, funnily enough when i made my original post i wondered how long it would be for you to put up a graph or picture, you exceeded my expectations. 

Oh sorry, I thought this was the Lounge not the Muppet Show. 

I just don't find drought a particularly funny subject, given the challenges it has created this year and will continue to create if conditions don't improve. I doubt you'll be posting laughing emojis about it either when further non-essential use bans are implemented (which they will be) and food prices rise markedly because of crop shortages.

[Turkish]

5 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Oh sorry, I thought this was the Lounge not the Muppet Show. 

I just don't find drought a particularly funny subject, given the challenges it has created this year and will continue to create if conditions don't improve. I doubt you'll be posting laughing emojis about it either when further non-essential use bans are implemented (which they will be) and food prices rise markedly because of crop shortages.

I dont jetwash my own car anyway, i pay the Albanian lads down the road a tenner at the drive through, they're better at it than i am and they get a bit of cash in hand work to go with all the benefits you're paying them. Everyones a winner.

[Whitey Grandad]

My dear wife and I had been saying for years that the seasons were moving to earlier in the year. Traditionally we only have the summer holidays in August so that schoolchildren can help with the harvest.

[sadoldgit]

59 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Oh sorry, I thought this was the Lounge not the Muppet Show. 

I just don't find drought a particularly funny subject, given the challenges it has created this year and will continue to create if conditions don't improve. I doubt you'll be posting laughing emojis about it either when further non-essential use bans are implemented (which they will be) and food prices rise markedly because of crop shortages.

Just ignore him. As ever he is just trying to turn every thread about him in his constant need for attention and laughing emojis.

[tdmickey3]

1 hour ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Ah, so you simply don't understand the definition of drought then. Gotcha.

Don't take too much notice, he is not happy unless he is belittling someone and its your turn it seems..

[Turkish]

21 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Just ignore him. As ever he is just trying to turn every thread about him in his constant need for attention and laughing emojis.

 

11 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

Don't take too much notice, he is not happy unless he is belittling someone and its your turn it seems..

within 10 minutes of each other, bravo 😂

[leesaint88]

21 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

My plums, apples and grapes have come in very early this year (well, at least a month).

Rye etc came in normal time this year though.

Agree on the apples. I've got sunsets in the garden and they tend to be a mid/late variety but have come in very early this year.

[tdmickey3]

1 minute ago, Turkish said:

 

within 10 minutes of each other, bravo 😂

Guess you must be monitoring us.... well done 🤡

[Turkish]

Just now, tdmickey3 said:

Guess you must be monitoring us.... well done 🤡

Not really "mickey" if you look at the top of your post you can see when the post was made. You can do it as quickly as it takes to log out and then log back in on a different user name. 

[tdmickey3]

19 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Not really "mickey" if you look at the top of your post you can see when the post was made. You can do it as quickly as it takes to log out and then log back in on a different user name. 

Stalker 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

A person who knows my parents stopped me in the street last night, telling me that the geese we'd just seen flying overhead portended bad things for the winter ahead.

I think she's taking the V formation rather personally. But make of that what you will.

[whelk]

I had some carol singers at the door yesterday. Getting ridiculous 

[Sheaf Saint]

3 hours ago, Turkish said:

I dont jetwash my own car anyway, i pay the Albanian lads down the road a tenner at the drive through, they're better at it than i am and they get a bit of cash in hand work to go with all the benefits you're paying them. Everyones a winner.

Yeah, about that... 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1dxq12rvkqo.amp

Looks like those poor lads might need to find other ways of doing the laundry to supplement their meagre income.

[Lord Duckhunter]

You can’t win with some people, if it was pissing down they’d be panicking about that and claiming Whitby was sinking into the sea. 
 

It’s the weather, some years it’s hot, others it’s fucking not. 

[Turkish]

13 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

You can’t win with some people, if it was pissing down they’d be panicking about that and claiming Whitby was sinking into the sea. 
 

It’s the weather, some years it’s hot, others it’s fucking not. 

was it the year before last it basically pissed it down from July to March? 

 

[Turkish]

47 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Yeah, about that... 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1dxq12rvkqo.amp

Looks like those poor lads might need to find other ways of doing the laundry to supplement their meagre income.

Poor sods. Particularly feel for the Africans, come here and it's a bigger desert than where they've come from.

[Whitey Grandad]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

was it the year before last it basically pissed it down from July to March? 

 

Yep. My dear wife was terminally ill and I remember it well.

[RedArmy]

6 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Ah, so you simply don't understand the definition of drought then. Gotcha.

My paddling pool certainly doesn’t. It was lovely and cool in there on Friday. 

[Turkish]

1 minute ago, RedArmy said:

My paddling pool certainly doesn’t. It was lovely and cool in there on Friday. 

Dont upset him, he'll either produce a hard hitting graph/diagram or come back with a patronising "you dont understand" put down.

[RedArmy]

12 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Dont upset him, he'll either produce a hard hitting graph/diagram or come back with a patronising "you dont understand" put down.

Even had to dig out my sunflower lanyard from the pandemic incase southern water came round and tried to fine me. 
Although they should probably fix their leaks before they try and stop us from staying cool during these global warming episodes. 

[egg]

5 hours ago, Turkish said:

Not really "mickey" if you look at the top of your post you can see when the post was made. You can do it as quickly as it takes to log out and then log back in on a different user name. 

Ah. I've done Hypo's chatGPT thing on this forum and it doesn't think they're the same poster. Interestingly, they seem to think that you and Convict Colony could be though! I can't see that personally. 

[sadoldgit]

3 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

You can’t win with some people, if it was pissing down they’d be panicking about that and claiming Whitby was sinking into the sea. 
 

It’s the weather, some years it’s hot, others it’s fucking not. 

No one is disputing that. Perhaps go back and look at the thread title again and engage your brain?

For example, you don’t normally find fields full of multiple types of mushrooms in early August, especially during a heatwave.

Edited Monday at 17:01 by sadoldgit
Typo

[The Kraken]

On the www.saintsweb.co.uk forum, are tdmickey and always_SFC the same person

just tried that….

Edited Monday at 17:02 by The Kraken

[Turkish]

7 minutes ago, egg said:

Ah. I've done Hypo's chatGPT thing on this forum and it doesn't think they're the same poster. Interestingly, they seem to think that you and Convict Colony could be though! I can't see that personally. 

Wasn't Convict Colony one of the funniest posters? I can why it would think that

"Mickey" is definitely a multi poster, SOG has a new user name on TUI after he got laughed off there.

[Turkish]

4 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

On the www.saintsweb.co.uk forum, are tdmickey and always_SFC the same person

just tried that….

✅

[SotonianWill]

5 minutes ago, Turkish said:

"Mickey" is definitely a multi poster, SOG has a new user name on TUI after he got laughed off there.

What is said username

[egg]

 

4 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Wasn't Convict Colony one of the funniest posters? I can why it would think that

"Mickey" is definitely a multi poster, SOG has a new user name on TUI after he got laughed off there.

ChatCGT only identified you and CC as a possible double login from the regulars. There were a few other random possibilities, but not re Mickey or SOG. 

The funniest top 10 came out differently to Hypo's, but not massively, although the last 6 months were different. First time I've ever used it. Quite interesting what it makes of people - apparently I'd be the best poster to negotiate with Trump!!

Anyways, not a subject for this thread, but AI says Mickey and SOG ain't one and the same which I think is correct. 

[badgerx16]

32 minutes ago, Turkish said:

SOG has a new user name on TUI after he got laughed off there.

 

26 minutes ago, SotonianWill said:

What is said username

HappyOldGit

Edited Monday at 17:38 by badgerx16

[Lord Duckhunter]

1 hour ago, sadoldgit said:

you don’t normally find fields full of multiple types of mushrooms in early August

Fucking hell, I bet you’re a laugh down the ale house…

[RedArmy]

3 hours ago, SotonianWill said:

What is said username

Tdmickey3