Saints 3-1 Sheff Weds - Match Thread

[captainchris]

2 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said:

The commentator on Solent today in place of Adam Blackmore.

He was excellent and his interviewing skills are infinitely more direct and relevant. 

[Graffito]

56 minutes ago, LGTL said:

Barry Bannan is a brilliant little player isn’t he. Don’t think he gave the ball away once. Best player on the pitch. 

Their number 12 was good.

[Badger]

58 minutes ago, LGTL said:

Barry Bannan is a brilliant little player isn’t he. Don’t think he gave the ball away once. Best player on the pitch. 

Good player who gets through a hell of a lot of work and organises the team. Has been a tremendous servant to Wednesday for best part of  a decade (possibly more, think he might have been with them in our L1 days).
 

Sort of player we’ve not had since the days of MLT and Dodd. 

[Nordic Saint]

16 minutes ago, Graffito said:

Their number 12 was good.

Yes, Harry Amass is by far their most valuable player and the classiest left wing-back in the Championship. Unfortunately for Wednesday, he's only on loan from Man United. If United would sell him, he'd be a great buy for us, but they'll probably want him for their first team soon.

'Someone tell Dorgu his days are numbered' - Man Utd fans hail academy graduate taking Championship by storm

Edited Saturday at 22:37 by Nordic Saint

[Dusic]

1 minute ago, Nordic Saint said:

Yes, Harry Amass is by far their most valuable player and the classiest left wing-back in the Championship. Unfortunately for Wednesday, he's only on loan from Man United. If they'd sell him, he'd be a great buy for us, but they'll probably want him for their first team soon.

'Someone tell Dorgu his days are numbered' - Man Utd fans hail academy graduate taking Championship by storm

Yeah even aside from his goal his firet touch and movement suggested a player capable of playing at a higher level.

[davefizzy14]

Two wins in a week sets us up nicely for when we return after the international break. Really pleased for both Jander and Azaz with their first goals today 😊 Adam Armstrong's finish was sublime for our third 😊 Leo was class, he is soo good 😊 Jander, Azaz, Downes and Fellows very good too. Barnaby Williams did well on his senior debut when he came on at half time 😊 Hoping we can get the managerial appointment done early next week. 

Edited Saturday at 23:29 by davefizzy14

[chivvy]

4 hours ago, Ralph Fastenbüttl said:

I'm not saying Eckert is the man or anything, but you lot are IMPOSSIBLE to please. Like, we NEVER enjoy a new manager bounce. Never. So two on the trot is actually pretty massive. Most of us would have creamed our pants if Still had taken off Downes and brought on youth. And for all the folk saying "yeah, well, we should be beating QPR and Wednesday" I'm like yeah, and we SHOULD have beaten loads of teams we've lost to recently!

Obviously Eckert would not be my No.1 choice - I'd much prefer a far more experienced hire - but if he keeps winning (big 'if', of course) then the point will come when SR would be stupid to get rid of the one bloke who seems to be able to get results from our repeatedly disappointing players.

It's like we've forgotten how to be pleased.
We lose = we're sad.
We're shit = we're sad.
We win = we're sad, because it means we might stick with the winners who we're convinced are actually shit!

I'm pleased with the points but I think still would have got them.

 

I just don't want the points to cloud judgement.

I still think the lack of centre forward options is the biggest problem sort that out and the rest may well fall into place.

Even with poor goalkeepers and defenders.

 

[James G]

I don't think it'll be Eckert, it's too risky. I think the victory today, plus the chants, just all means that O Neil was possibly being considered, but they we're testing the waters with the crowd. It's obviously a no go

As previously suggested, I think Eckert have given Southampton time to think about their next move and not rush into anything. He's said himself, he's just an interim manager. I think it'll be someone else, and it'll not be a quick appointment. Just a guess

[Whitey Grandad]

8 hours ago, SambaMaverick said:

How does bazunu let that in

He didn't have any choice. There are some ridiculous expectations on here. You should all go back to playing Football Manager on PlayStation. 

[skintsaint]

38 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

You should all go back to playing Football Manager on PlayStation. 

 

[SW11_Saint]

9 hours ago, James G said:

I don't think it'll be Eckert, it's too risky. I think the victory today, plus the chants, just all means that O Neil was possibly being considered, but they we're testing the waters with the crowd. It's obviously a no go

As previously suggested, I think Eckert have given Southampton time to think about their next move and not rush into anything. He's said himself, he's just an interim manager. I think it'll be someone else, and it'll not be a quick appointment. Just a guess

There’s an easy-ish option - if they are truly considering Eckart - in letting him carry on for a few more games while they sound out/consider candidates - he may continue to improve or tank… I really would rather they just got on with it though and brought someone in with experience. 

If they believe in this guy they can always promote him to the first team coaching group and plan for his ultimate succession. 

[lambtiss]

8 minutes ago, SW11_Saint said:

There’s an easy-ish option - if they are truly considering Eckart - in letting him carry on for a few more games while they sound out/consider candidates - he may continue to improve or tank… I really would rather they just got on with it though and brought someone in with experience. 

If they believe in this guy they can always promote him to the first team coaching group and plan for his ultimate succession. 

Totally agree with @SW11_Saint

Eckhart has done well,but to put in perspective he has only had 2 matches, against weak opposition, has definitely benefited from a post Still bounce in terms of player motivation and the defence still looks at sixes and sevens. 

Also, I have read elsewhere that he was probably brought to the club as a potential successor to Will Still. So, let's stick to that plan. He has certainly done nothing to harm his chances. Great to see him trust the youngsters too, with a solid debut from Williams

[saintant]

10 hours ago, James G said:

I don't think it'll be Eckert, it's too risky. I think the victory today, plus the chants, just all means that O Neil was possibly being considered, but they we're testing the waters with the crowd. It's obviously a no go

As previously suggested, I think Eckert have given Southampton time to think about their next move and not rush into anything. He's said himself, he's just an interim manager. I think it'll be someone else, and it'll not be a quick appointment. Just a guess

With the international break upon us it actually needs to be a quick appointment to give the new guy two weeks to bed himself in, get to know the players who aren't away and start to get his ideas across. It's the ideal time but we can't afford to leave it another week because that is precious time wasted. I get that we don't want to rush and make another bad appointment but Spors must have been interviewing and have some idea who he wants so get it done asap.

[JohnnyShearer2.0]

1 minute ago, saintant said:

With the international break upon us it actually needs to be a quick appointment to give the new guy two weeks to bed himself in, get to know the players who aren't away and start to get his ideas across. It's the ideal time but we can't afford to leave it another week because that is precious time wasted. I get that we don't want to rush and make another bad appointment but Spors must have been interviewing and have some idea who he wants so get it done asap.

We'll appoint a manager after the first game back no doubt!

[Osvaldorama]

10 hours ago, chivvy said:

I'm pleased with the points but I think still would have got them.

 

I just don't want the points to cloud judgement.

I still think the lack of centre forward options is the biggest problem sort that out and the rest may well fall into place.

Even with poor goalkeepers and defenders.

 

I agree, we actually have a decent attacking side that could out score teams at this level if it had a focal point. Scienza & fellows either side of a competent striker would do some real damage. 
 

The big issue is we are bad at both ends. We don’t score enough to bail the poor gk/defence out. 

[AlexLaw76]

SOmeone's happy after another win...

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1DioJkonoi/

[Football Special]

35 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

SOmeone's happy after another win...

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1DioJkonoi/

I'd have liked to have seen him given the role as interim manager 

[Football Special]

I'm told Spors appeared out of the tunnel at the final whistle to go pitch side congratulating the players, unusual , perhaps he's been told to be more visible 

[sadoldgit]

1 hour ago, saintant said:

With the international break upon us it actually needs to be a quick appointment to give the new guy two weeks to bed himself in, get to know the players who aren't away and start to get his ideas across. It's the ideal time but we can't afford to leave it another week because that is precious time wasted. I get that we don't want to rush and make another bad appointment but Spors must have been interviewing and have some idea who he wants so get it done asap.

It isn’t time wasted so long as we get the right person in. What we really can’t afford is to employ another dud. I would be happy to continue with Eckert until they get the best candidate they can. This isn’t about the short term. We need to plan long term, which doesn’t include yet more upheaval in the coaching staff not long down the line.

[spyinthesky]

We have 'enjoyed' two games against teams we should really be expected to beat with our squad and that happened but not in an impressive way.

Forthcoming games away to Charlton & Millwall and home to Leicester will be much sterner tests.

If the team remains set up in the same way as in the last two (and previous) games then the current small amount of positivity is likely to disappear.

[The Wyvern]

Thoughts on the debutant Williams? 

[Sheaf Saint]

46 minutes ago, The Wyvern said:

Thoughts on the debutant Williams? 

Difficult to judge because we pretty much surrendered the midfield in the second half, but he looked tidy enough on the ball. Certainly didn't do anything obviously bad. 

[Football Special]

46 minutes ago, The Wyvern said:

Thoughts on the debutant Williams? 

Could see him grow in confidence and looked comfortable on the ball, interesting story didn't know he'd had a bad car accident, is he a local lad? 

[pingpong]

1 hour ago, Football Special said:

I'm told Spors appeared out of the tunnel at the final whistle to go pitch side congratulating the players, unusual , perhaps he's been told to be more visible 

Us getting a win is unusual, hard to know what our celebration patterns are.

[lambtiss]

1 hour ago, Football Special said:

I'm told Spors appeared out of the tunnel at the final whistle to go pitch side congratulating the players, unusual , perhaps he's been told to be more visible 

Probably more likely that, like the rest of us, he was on a high after we actually won a game at home

[Charlie Wayman]

3 hours ago, JohnnyShearer2.0 said:

We'll appoint a manager after the first game back no doubt!

These arrangements take time, rushing things through is never a good option. After years of failure and poor coaching the last thing we need is another boy wonder manager who is out of his depth.

We need the right person, at the right price and given a clear set of objectives. Deadlines are artificial and unhelpful. It's too late now anyway to expect a promotion challenge this season.

As long as the new person wins more matches than he loses and is able to instil a sytem and style of play that pleases fans and commentators and is progressive then he will be given time to build a strong side able to challenge for auromatic promotion next season.

[OldNick]

I thought Manning did ok, his cut back for the first goal was superb. He also got stuck in a couple of tackles