The Spygate Saga

[Pamplemousse]

Sorry but until MB announces it himself I won't believe anything else

[AlexLaw76]

Just heard..,, Eric Black is behind it all and will be the fall guy

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, CB Fry said:

Happy Announcement Day everyone!

Will be a great relief at least to know where we are today.

Everyone will remember where they were when Tonda got a 3 games touchline ban

[Miltonaggro]

33 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Just heard..,, Eric Black is behind it all and will be the fall guy

100% this! He doesn't even speak German!

[musesaint]

And 300 pages up now on the Spygate saga. 400 coming up once the sanction is finally announced. 😬

[Tamesaint]

14 minutes ago, musesaint said:

And 300 pages up now on the Spygate saga. 400 coming up once the sanction is finally announced. 😬

What is the Saintsweb definition of a "saga"? Pompey Takeover had one as does Spygate but not Defectors or Injuries. It would help my appreciation of this forum if I knew the difference between a thread and a saga.😀

Edited 5 hours ago by Tamesaint

[LordHester]

There was me thinking the name of the FA had something to do with football, when it actually reflects what they do sitting around all day.

[Turkish]

14 minutes ago, Tamesaint said:

What is the Saintsweb definition of a "saga"? Pompey Takeover had one as does Spygate but not Defectors or Injuries. It would help my appreciation of this forum if I knew the difference between a thread and a saga.😀

The Spygate chronicles

the Epic tale of the iPhone and the tree

Tonda and the legend of Rockcliffe Hall

The Spygate Odyssey

 

 

[Zorba]

1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Just heard..,, Eric Black is behind it all and will be the fall guy

[saintant]

Anyone know if Tonda is back from Germany? I'm assuming he would have gone home last week to see his wife and baby. Has he been seen at Staplewood? Asking for a friend.

[Pamplemousse]

The FA have been busy this morning. They've charged Stockport because of an incident that happened in MAY... 

[saintant]

45 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said:

The FA have been busy this morning. They've charged Stockport because of an incident that happened in MAY... 

Sounds like they have a bit of a backlog. They'll get to us eventually when it suits.

[Willo of Whiteley]

34 minutes ago, saintant said:

Sounds like they have a bit of a backlog. They'll get to us eventually when it suits.

Sounds like we might have a shot at Champions League qualification with Tonda at their rate then 😂😂

[BallBoy]

The irony is that the FA are set to make Tonda accountable for his actions. Yet they are accountable to nobody for their own inaction.

[egg]

4 hours ago, obelisk said:

Can't believe that the FA blazers would want to spoil one more expenses-paid outing tonight by having to be sober enough to talk to the press about whatever draconian punishment they might fancy imposing. Tomorrow afternoon after a long lie-in would be my guess.

I don't see it being before the Pompey game. It'd be carnage if the bad news comes out before the match. 

[saintant]

53 minutes ago, egg said:

I don't see it being before the Pompey game. It'd be carnage if the bad news comes out before the match. 

Are you in the know?

Edited 1 hour ago by saintant

[trousers]

I know that comparing Tonda's misdemeanors with other transgressions is frowned upon by some of the Saintsweb intelligentsia, but what's worse..? Sending an intern to film an opponent's training session, or assaulting a child spectator...?

 

Edited 1 hour ago by trousers

[Pamplemousse]

Went down a bit of a rabbit hole on the FA website. This isn't the first time Tonda has been charged with the FA - he got done for being part of a mass brawl 5 years ago

https://www.thefa.com/-/media/files/thefaportal/governance-docs/discipline-cases/2021/the-fa-v-stoke-city-fc-barnsley-fc-and-others-27-september-2021.ashx

"TONDA ECKERT
23. We are unanimously of the view that TE’s part in this incident was the most serious. His
behaviour was aggressive and violent from the moment that he confronted DH. He
slapped DH and later had his arm around someone else’s throat. Therefore, we must
take a higher starting point in his case. In his favour we take account of his previous
good record, genuine remorse, and admission of the charge. Therefore, our starting
point is a four-match touchline suspension and a fine of £4,125. Taking account of the
mitigation and admission we reduce that to a three-match touchline suspension and a fine
of £2,750."

Hope that previous charge doesn't count against him, but it might do 

Edited 1 hour ago by Pamplemousse

[egg]

20 minutes ago, saintant said:

Are you in the knw?

Nope. I just can't see it being sensible to have that news mixed with that atmosphere. 

[23rdSaint]

21 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said:

Went down a bit of a rabbit hole on the FA website. This isn't the first time Tonda has been charged with the FA - he got done for being part of a mass brawl 5 years ago

https://www.thefa.com/-/media/files/thefaportal/governance-docs/discipline-cases/2021/the-fa-v-stoke-city-fc-barnsley-fc-and-others-27-september-2021.ashx

"TONDA ECKERT
23. We are unanimously of the view that TE’s part in this incident was the most serious. His
behaviour was aggressive and violent from the moment that he confronted DH. He
slapped DH and later had his arm around someone else’s throat. Therefore, we must
take a higher starting point in his case. In his favour we take account of his previous
good record, genuine remorse, and admission of the charge. Therefore, our starting
point is a four-match touchline suspension and a fine of £4,125. Taking account of the
mitigation and admission we reduce that to a three-match touchline suspension and a fine
of £2,750."

Hope that previous charge doesn't count against him, but it might do 

Wow, that's a great find. I can't see how that's not factored in, given they reference his "previous good record" in that case. 

[VectisSaint]

4 minutes ago, 23rdSaint said:

Wow, that's a great find. I can't see how that's not factored in, given they reference his "previous good record" in that case. 

I know it's been a long time, but it's not news, was talked about on here and elsewhere, thought it was common knowledge.

[saintant]

35 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said:

Went down a bit of a rabbit hole on the FA website. This isn't the first time Tonda has been charged with the FA - he got done for being part of a mass brawl 5 years ago

https://www.thefa.com/-/media/files/thefaportal/governance-docs/discipline-cases/2021/the-fa-v-stoke-city-fc-barnsley-fc-and-others-27-september-2021.ashx

"TONDA ECKERT
23. We are unanimously of the view that TE’s part in this incident was the most serious. His
behaviour was aggressive and violent from the moment that he confronted DH. He
slapped DH and later had his arm around someone else’s throat. Therefore, we must
take a higher starting point in his case. In his favour we take account of his previous
good record, genuine remorse, and admission of the charge. Therefore, our starting
point is a four-match touchline suspension and a fine of £4,125. Taking account of the
mitigation and admission we reduce that to a three-match touchline suspension and a fine
of £2,750."

Hope that previous charge doesn't count against him, but it might do 

Not a good look for Tonda. He seems to lose it and is seen snarling with his face contorted with rage. Can see why he was punished for this.

[23rdSaint]

9 minutes ago, VectisSaint said:

I know it's been a long time, but it's not news, was talked about on here and elsewhere, thought it was common knowledge.

Thanks. I'll get back to my rock

[Saint_clark]

52 minutes ago, trousers said:

I know that comparing Tonda's misdemeanors with other transgressions is frowned upon by some of the Saintsweb intelligentsia, but what's worse..? Sending an intern to film an opponent's training session, or assaulting a child spectator...?

 

I'd have advocated a ban for the rest of the season in that case. Crazy.

[Patrick Bateman]

55 minutes ago, trousers said:

I know that comparing Tonda's misdemeanors with other transgressions is frowned upon by some of the Saintsweb intelligentsia, but what's worse..? Sending an intern to film an opponent's training session, or assaulting a child spectator...?

 

That's ridiculously lenient for what he did. 

[Wade Garrett]

1 hour ago, trousers said:

I know that comparing Tonda's misdemeanors with other transgressions is frowned upon by some of the Saintsweb intelligentsia, but what's worse..? Sending an intern to film an opponent's training session, or assaulting a child spectator...?

 

Should have been given a medal for grabbing the pikey scumbag.

[saintant]

17 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

That's ridiculously lenient for what he did. 

Let's see what level of leniency the FA show towards Tonda.

[saintant]

1 hour ago, trousers said:

I know that comparing Tonda's misdemeanors with other transgressions is frowned upon by some of the Saintsweb intelligentsia, but what's worse..? Sending an intern to film an opponent's training session, or assaulting a child spectator...?

 

Good job Bielik wasn't grabbing a young Boro fan.

[Wade Garrett]

1 hour ago, Pamplemousse said:

Went down a bit of a rabbit hole on the FA website. This isn't the first time Tonda has been charged with the FA - he got done for being part of a mass brawl 5 years ago

https://www.thefa.com/-/media/files/thefaportal/governance-docs/discipline-cases/2021/the-fa-v-stoke-city-fc-barnsley-fc-and-others-27-september-2021.ashx

"TONDA ECKERT
23. We are unanimously of the view that TE’s part in this incident was the most serious. His
behaviour was aggressive and violent from the moment that he confronted DH. He
slapped DH and later had his arm around someone else’s throat. Therefore, we must
take a higher starting point in his case. In his favour we take account of his previous
good record, genuine remorse, and admission of the charge. Therefore, our starting
point is a four-match touchline suspension and a fine of £4,125. Taking account of the
mitigation and admission we reduce that to a three-match touchline suspension and a fine
of £2,750."

Hope that previous charge doesn't count against him, but it might do 

Got a bit more respect for him after seeing that.  

[saintant]

Just now, Wade Garrett said:

Got a bit more respect for him after seeing that.  

Doubt the FA will take the same view 🙂

[saintant]

1 hour ago, trousers said:

I know that comparing Tonda's misdemeanors with other transgressions is frowned upon by some of the Saintsweb intelligentsia, but what's worse..? Sending an intern to film an opponent's training session, or assaulting a child spectator...?

 

The police were involved and no charges were made but apparently there was an out of court resolution between Bielik and the fan.