AlexLaw76 Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 38 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said: I listened yesterday, it’s about five or six days out of date now, and there’s not much on there that wasn’t true a week ago. They did a TSP last night
OldNick Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago Whilst Im against Adams stance on the current situation, Id be devastated if he left. He is a class commentator and does want the best for Saints. Adam and Jo is always a good listen. 3
swedish dave Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 10 minutes ago, OldNick said: Whilst Im against Adams stance on the current situation, Id be devastated if he left. He is a class commentator and does want the best for Saints. Adam and Jo is always a good listen. Whilst I agree with your comment, I do wish they'd concentrate on the ongoing game they watch, and leave their old storylines for other occasions. It's not the first time (they) have missed a goal whilst blathering on about something much less interesting (and occasionally ) non-Saints. Interesting comment was from the legendary Kenneth Wolstenholme; .." a good commentator should say.. as little as possible and concentrate (on what's happening) in the game ."
Turkish Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 2 hours ago, saintant said: Blackmore needs to put aside his personal views and align himself with the views of the chairman of the football club which puts food on his table. If he can't or won't do that it's time he resigned and found himself a club that does zero cheating as that would seem more to his taste. He'll be looking for a long time. and if he did that there would be some accusing him of just being a kiss arse to the club and their mouth piece in the media. This is the point i made early, whatever they do some will complain. They've got to get the balance of reporting the facts, having their own opinion, whilst also keeping the club onside, it's a tough ask and as we can see, people will be critical whatever they do. 4
Saint86 Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Turkish said: and if he did that there would be some accusing him of just being a kiss arse to the club and their mouth piece in the media. This is the point i made early, whatever they do some will complain. They've got to get the balance of reporting the facts, having their own opinion, whilst also keeping the club onside, it's a tough ask and as we can see, people will be critical whatever they do. Agree with that. But there is a difference between balanced reporting and just repeatedly calling for the manager to be sacked for bullying junior staff as if its a fact, when in reality there is no evidence of that happening. 2
Wade Garrett Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago On 03/06/2026 at 09:25, Noodles34 said: @FootballMartin sits in his bedroom podcasting whilst his kids and missus are downstairs having their tea... Dunno, there's a market for it but funny the other day when he was asked a question on another online channel I guess about something that was about Saints history and he got flustered and pulled someone else over, saying something like 'ask a real fan'... Pretty much summed him up for me. He's constantly trying to get sponsors and make this a full time job, I guess he wants to be the new Robbie from Arsenal TV, a bit sad really. I guess the EPL dream has really fucked that up now. And I'm obliged to say that he doesn't eat babies.... apparently. That's harsh. I like his content and hid dad seems like a decent bloke as well, 2
manji Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago I think there’s another reason some of the commentators don’t like Tonda. He’s not a cheeky chappy having a bit of banter with Adam Blackmore . I reckon Sky and Talksport wouldn’t like him the EPL he’s no fun they’d rather have another Harry Redknapp or Sean Dyche a bit of banter give the a good story. 5
Baird of the land Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 4 hours ago, disconnect said: When will we hear of Blackmore being sacked? It's like he's deliberately trying to get the club (and fanbase?) to turn on him? He seems to get joy out of saints having bad managers, so no surprise he's anti tonda 2
Gloucester Saint Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 2 hours ago, Turkish said: and if he did that there would be some accusing him of just being a kiss arse to the club and their mouth piece in the media. This is the point i made early, whatever they do some will complain. They've got to get the balance of reporting the facts, having their own opinion, whilst also keeping the club onside, it's a tough ask and as we can see, people will be critical whatever they do. Not long ago he was being referred to as ‘Brownmore’ because it was perceived he wasn’t challenging the club sufficiently. Talk about walking a tightrope…. 5
Saint86 Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, Gloucester Saint said: Not long ago he was being referred to as ‘Brownmore’ because it was perceived he wasn’t challenging the club sufficiently. Talk about walking a tightrope…. I don't want him to roll over for the club. But what he is doing right now is ignoring all the actual evidence to repeatedly push a negative narrative, hammer the club publicly, and specifically and directly attack the manage over bullying offences which are seemingly un-evidenced. If Blackmore wants to keep pushing this narrative he needs to back it up with actual evidence that shows it was Tonda, otherwise he needs to drop it. 2
mikeyc Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago Personally think we are very lucky to have Adam. Clearly gives a shit, has pretty much got the balance right for me in terms of challenging the club and managers - I recall some prickly interviews with Martin - and is a very good commentator. And Jo offers genuine insight for me. Going Home is a great show, win or lose. I haven’t entirely agreed with Adam on some of the things he’s said over the last few weeks, but respect his opinion. 6
CB Fry Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 42 minutes ago, Saint86 said: I don't want him to roll over for the club. But what he is doing right now is ignoring all the actual evidence to repeatedly push a negative narrative, hammer the club publicly, and specifically and directly attack the manage over bullying offences which are seemingly un-evidenced. If Blackmore wants to keep pushing this narrative he needs to back it up with actual evidence that shows it was Tonda, otherwise he needs to drop it. There is evidence, not least Solak's stuff in his interview/statement about "well, the intern should have complained more". Not "it didn't happen" just blaming the intern for not complaining more loudly. I'm not sure what "actual evidence" you are looking for when the club admitted the wrong they've done, they haven't accused the intern of lying when he said to the investigation that he felt pressured and uncomfortable. There seems to be a group of people that have decided that because Solak and the club have gone through with their "fuck you, we're not sacking anyone" routine that it means the club did no wrong. Well, they did do wrong. It's not a "narrative" being pushed by Adam Blackmore. 3
Saint86 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 8 minutes ago, CB Fry said: There is evidence, not least Solak's stuff in his interview/statement about "well, the intern should have complained more". Not "it didn't happen" just blaming the intern for not complaining more loudly. I'm not sure what "actual evidence" you are looking for when the club admitted the wrong they've done, they haven't accused the intern of lying when he said to the investigation that he felt pressured and uncomfortable. There seems to be a group of people that have decided that because Solak and the club have gone through with their "fuck you, we're not sacking anyone" routine that it means the club did no wrong. Well, they did do wrong. It's not a "narrative" being pushed by Adam Blackmore. There is no evidence at all of Eckert bullying... 3
Pilchards Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago Another reason why commentators and interviewers don’t have a great liking to Eckert is because he has a touch of Alex Ferguson/Jose Mourinho about him. They become scared to ask questions in case it’s thrown back at them as them being dumb.
egg Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 16 minutes ago, Saint86 said: There is no evidence at all of Eckert bullying... I thought there were witnesses that gave that evidence? Edited 8 hours ago by egg 1
St Chalet Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 14 minutes ago, Saint86 said: There is no evidence at all of Eckert bullying... Fergie gives a hairdryer = legend Tonda asks intern to do analysis = bullying 7
AlexLaw76 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago Just now, St Chalet said: Fergie gives a hairdryer = legend Tonda asks intern to do analysis = bullying It's not 1993 anymore 1
saintwbu Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago Feeling under pressure to do something, is not the same as being pressured to do something by the manager, and is not the same as being bullied. From what I read in the EFL notes, the analyst felt ‘under pressure’. I’m sure a lot of people feel ‘under pressure’ when someone senior to them at work requests something and it’s put upon them to deliver it - that’s the nature of hierarchy, feels pretty natural. I don’t recall anything in the notes to say Tonda had put anybody under pressure, and certainly not that he’d bullied anyone. 12
The Wyvern Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 2 minutes ago, saintwbu said: Feeling under pressure to do something, is not the same as being pressured to do something by the manager, and is not the same as being bullied. From what I read in the EFL notes, the analyst felt ‘under pressure’. I’m sure a lot of people feel ‘under pressure’ when someone senior to them at work requests something and it’s put upon them to deliver it - that’s the nature of hierarchy, feels pretty natural. I don’t recall anything in the notes to say Tonda had put anybody under pressure, and certainly not that he’d bullied anyone. Agreed, there’s been no evidence of bullying. I think in the efl statement it actually stated that for the Ipswich incident a few junior analysts were asked to do it and said “no”, with no repercussions. 1
hypochondriac Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 5 minutes ago, The Wyvern said: Agreed, there’s been no evidence of bullying. I think in the efl statement it actually stated that for the Ipswich incident a few junior analysts were asked to do it and said “no”, with no repercussions. We dint even know if they were spoken to by the manager about it.
Football Special Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 43 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: It's not 1993 anymore Branfoot Out 6
Hopper Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago I don't mind Adam on the whole. I think he's quite a decent commentator and usually a fairly balanced head on most things Saints. I do think he was quite quick to cast judgement re: Spygate but I think quite a few have been guilty of that (Myself included initially). His most recent tweets in response to the messages from Dragan and Tonda were quite warm and I suspect he's cooled down on the situation with a little more time having passed. All this to say that when I look at the absolute weapons that the North East have for editors and journos, I actually think we might be quite lucky to have him 😂 Completely agree with the comment above on the inside references during commentary. I get not every game is going to be interesting from first kick to last but c'mon now, people are listening for the football not what you Jo had to lunch on the way to the ground. 3
SW11_Saint Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 7 hours ago, Wade Garrett said: That's harsh. I like his content and hid dad seems like a decent bloke as well, Agree, he’s a decent lad and I like his enthusiasm. Works really hard at his content, and you can’t fault his commitment. Love hearing from his Dad, always talks so much sense.
SW11_Saint Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, saintwbu said: Feeling under pressure to do something, is not the same as being pressured to do something by the manager, and is not the same as being bullied. From what I read in the EFL notes, the analyst felt ‘under pressure’. I’m sure a lot of people feel ‘under pressure’ when someone senior to them at work requests something and it’s put upon them to deliver it - that’s the nature of hierarchy, feels pretty natural. I don’t recall anything in the notes to say Tonda had put anybody under pressure, and certainly not that he’d bullied anyone. With respect, you’re missing the point - they were asked to do something that they felt uncomfortable with because it felt wrong (and was wrong, per EFL rules). That is entirely different from being pressured to deliver a legitimate piece of work by your boss. There was documented evidence of WhatsApp messages exerting pressure to do this, despite their reticence, which is why the judge described it as ‘deplorable’. 1
Dan Johnson Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 4 hours ago, mikeyc said: Personally think we are very lucky to have Adam. Clearly gives a shit, has pretty much got the balance right for me in terms of challenging the club and managers - I recall some prickly interviews with Martin - and is a very good commentator. And Jo offers genuine insight for me. Going Home is a great show, win or lose. I haven’t entirely agreed with Adam on some of the things he’s said over the last few weeks, but respect his opinion. Absolutely this, love his commentary, think his views are balanced and well thought through. Don’t always agree with him but I very much enjoy his input whether I agree or not. I hope he continues to cover Saints long into the future. going home with Adam and Jo, highlights with their commentary, and the Football Martin Channel for that matter, are now very much part of my post game enjoyment
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