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Just now, Turkish said:

Les Reed was actually good for Cortese, stopped him making a few stupid decisions, like sacking Adkins after the Reading game. Reeds issues started when Koeman left as he thought he’d cracked the code of football. 

His problem was thinking he had much to do with it in the first place. 
When you look at the important signings we made during that period, a lot of them are clearly heavily influenced by the Koemans (either Dutch or from the Dutch league) 

The one he could probably have taken credit for if he hadn’t fucked it up so spectacularly would have been Alderweireld. 

 

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6 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Les Reed was actually good for Cortese, stopped him making a few stupid decisions, like sacking Adkins after the Reading game. Reeds issues started when Koeman left as he thought he’d cracked the code of football. 

Reed also believed his own publicity too much.

Praised for the conveyor belt of talent coming through and media talk of it being like Ajax. Completely glossing over the fact Ajax have breakthrough players year after year, not a Shearer in 1987 and Walcott in 2005, and Bale a few years later. 

He believed both he and his system/black box was invincible and clearly better placed than some random Dutch geezer (no matter what he achieved as a player) to take the club forward. Despite the fact it was largely Koeman’s connections that helped rebuild in 2014. 

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3 minutes ago, RedArmy said:

His problem was thinking he had much to do with it in the first place. 
When you look at the important signings we made during that period, a lot of them are clearly heavily influenced by the Koemans (either Dutch or from the Dutch league) 

The one he could probably have taken credit for if he hadn’t fucked it up so spectacularly would have been Alderweireld. 

 

I don’t disagree with that but he also got us Koeman in the first place when the club was in disarray and after Cortese and then Pochetino fucked off with the later telling senior players they should leave 

Just now, Badger said:

Reed also believed his own publicity too much.

Praised for the conveyor belt of talent coming through and media talk of it being like Ajax. Completely glossing over the fact Ajax have breakthrough players year after year, not a Shearer in 1987 and Walcott in 2005, and Bale a few years later. 

He believed both he and his system/black box was invincible and clearly better placed than some random Dutch geezer (no matter what he achieved as a player) to take the club forward. Despite the fact it was largely Koeman’s connections that helped rebuild in 2014. 

He did towards the end, yes but he was also instrumental in our rise. He got us Adkins and Koeman had a hand in Pochetino and got made some very good signings. The problems began when he was the only person in a leadership role at the club with any experience in football. In Koeman he also had a strong character in charge of the team, but when he went Les had free reign which is never good for any business 

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Yes, I’d also accept his part in our rise, but it did seem he was overtaken by his own ego. Which as you say Turkish coincided with Koeman’s departure (perhaps also a factor in it). 

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19 minutes ago, Turkish said:

I don’t disagree with that but he also got us Koeman in the first place when the club was in disarray and after Cortese and then Pochetino fucked off with the later telling senior players they should leave 

 

He absolutely gets credit for hiring Koeman, it’s one of the best decisions this club has ever made. 
But he also has to take responsibility for letting him go to Everton off the back of a top 6 finish which started the downward spiral. 

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4 minutes ago, Colinjb said:

I don't recognise this team in white, they claim to be England. But, they're not playing like it.

They're playing like they did when they thrashed France in the World Cup.

 

Oh dear, red card. It's going to be a matter of holding on now.

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Just now, Nordic Saint said:

They're playing like the did when they thrashed France in the World Cup.

Lets hope the rest of the second half proceeds better then that eventually ended up. (Jude wonder goal notwithstanding.)

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Quansah not really good enough although we are v weak in that area these days.

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3 minutes ago, John Boy Saint said:

Silly boy - just shows there is fresh air between players ears

Konsa caused all the problems

Posted
13 minutes ago, Colinjb said:

Lets hope the rest of the second half proceeds better then that eventually ended up. (Jude wonder goal notwithstanding.)

So, it is just like that France game.

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8 minutes ago, Colinjb said:

James Trafford. Magnificent

Take his number one now if he’s been picked for a game like this. He was great

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3 minutes ago, John Boy Saint said:

Fuck me - so much for a nice quiet relaxed Sunday night!

I am normally a bit ambivalent about England games but I was as nervous towards the end as I am with Saints in big games.
Well deserved win in the end.

 

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Great second half after a dreadful first half.

Why oh why do ITV use Sam Matterface? Sometimes he even told you who had the ball but most of the time he just let the wind blow his tongue up and down to spout crap.

 

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What a night that was! Absolutely on a different level 11 v 11, dug right in to hold onto the win. Hopefully that will overcome this mental block we seem to have against the best nations 

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Just now, Tamesaint said:

Great second half after a dreadful first half.

Why oh why do ITV use Sam Matterface? Sometimes he even told you who had the ball but most of the time he just let the wind blow his tongue up and down to spout crap.

 

Dreadful first half? You must have been watching a different game unless you are Spanish? England were excellent. 

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1 minute ago, Tamesaint said:

Great second half after a dreadful first half.

Why oh why do ITV use Sam Matterface? Sometimes he even told you who had the ball but most of the time he just let the wind blow his tongue up and down to spout crap.

 

He was talking the other day about Kane scoring 90 odds goals and said it is just like cricketers in the nervous nineties. In what way you twat - Kane cannot be bowled out.

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