Saints vs Bolton - Saturday 3pm

[Badger]

5 hours ago, Pamplemousse said:

We've never beaten Bolton at St Mary's so another record we can hopefully break

 

3 hours ago, Saint_lambden said:

Haven't beaten them in the last 10 and all 5 at SMS. 

I thought of them as being a bogey team but didn’t realise how sparse our record was against them, especially recently and at St Mary’s.

Nothing new though. When we were relegated to Division 2 in the 1970’s it was much the same.

Played them eight times over four seasons between relegation and promotion. No wins. Whenever they came to The Dell they’d have two brick shithouse CB’s who head everything away (often halfway into their own half) or just welly it as an up and under. No surprise that one of their Neanderthal defenders was Sam Allardyce. 

We’d outplay them, not score and they’d break away for a 1-0. 
 

Horrible team to play. In fairness they did look to be playing a bit more v Wolves from the highlights.

With Bazunu in goal I’m hoping for a 4or5-0, but going on history with them 0-1 would be no surprise. 

[Whitey Grandad]

13 minutes ago, Badger said:

 

I thought of them as being a bogey team but didn’t realise how sparse our record was against them, especially recently and at St Mary’s.

Nothing new though. When we were relegated to Division 2 in the 1970’s it was much the same.

Played them eight times over four seasons between relegation and promotion. No wins. Whenever they came to The Dell they’d have two brick shithouse CB’s who head everything away (often halfway into their own half) or just welly it as an up and under. No surprise that one of their Neanderthal defenders was Sam Allardyce. 

We’d outplay them, not score and they’d break away for a 1-0. 
 

Horrible team to play. In fairness they did look to be playing a bit more v Wolves from the highlights.

With Bazunu in goal I’m hoping for a 4or5-0, but going on history with them 0-1 would be no surprise. 

I think you're all putting too much faith in Baz.

[Badger]

1 minute ago, Whitey Grandad said:

I think you're all putting too much faith in Baz.

Irrefutable rule of the ex-player. 

[SouthWalesSaints]

6 hours ago, Football Special said:

Surprised to hear they are only bringing about 1600 fans as they havent played at St Mary's for a long time, corner always looks a bit sparse with a half full away end 

Hopefully we sell out the remaining 6/700 home tickets and create a proper atmosphere. 
 

Don’t under estimate how tough Saturday will be when we’ve had Norwich on a Wednesday. 
I went last night and I feel like a zombie today, if the players feel even 50% similar it leaves less than one day preparation. 
 

Love the feel around the club now, so much more positive.  

Jander won’t be allowed to play from start, he’ll freshen up a few imo. 

Peretz 

Bree Stephens KS Manning 

Bragg JWP 

Fellows Azaz Scienza 

Larin 

[Patrick Bateman]

6 hours ago, Football Special said:

Yes fair play theyve come up and done very well recently, very impressive result at Molineux Tuesday night , i think it will be a very tough game 

Surprised to hear they are only bringing about 1600 fans as they havent played at St Mary's for a long time, corner always looks a bit sparse with a half full away end 

It's annoying we can no longer move the segregation barrier and sell their empty block(s). 

[HKsaint]

2 hours ago, Badger said:

Irrefutable rule of the ex-player. 

Baz should have a lot of trauma at St Mary.

[Miltonaggro]

7 minutes ago, HKsaint said:

Baz should have a lot of trauma at St Mary.

We certainly did when he was there! 

[The Wyvern]

1 hour ago, SouthWalesSaints said:

Hopefully we sell out the remaining 6/700 home tickets and create a proper atmosphere. 
 

Don’t under estimate how tough Saturday will be when we’ve had Norwich on a Wednesday. 
I went last night and I feel like a zombie today, if the players feel even 50% similar it leaves less than one day preparation. 
 

Love the feel around the club now, so much more positive.  

Jander won’t be allowed to play from start, he’ll freshen up a few imo. 

Peretz 

Bree Stephens KS Manning 

Bragg JWP 

Fellows Azaz Scienza 

Larin 

Can’t have a central midfield of just JWP and Bragg. Surely got to play Jander or find another option. 

[SouthWalesSaints]

11 minutes ago, The Wyvern said:

Can’t have a central midfield of just JWP and Bragg. Surely got to play Jander or find another option. 

If Downes isn’t fit this will be what it will be.  Hopefully he recovers.  They won’t risk Jander from the start, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him not play any mins at all if we’re in a winning position. 

[Turkish]

No idea why everyone is saying it'll be a tough game. Yes their result last night was good but nothing else they've done this season has been remotely impressive. The sort of game we should win comfortably and if Baz is Baz any shot low and on target will be a goal

[Jack]

11 minutes ago, The Wyvern said:

Can’t have a central midfield of just JWP and Bragg. Surely got to play Jander or find another option. 

The other option limped off with a twisted ankle and potential ligament issues last night. Pretty sure it’ll be JWP and Bragg, maybe Jander to come on when needed later on 

[saintwbu]

Bragg and JWP have worked well together so far this season. Bragg has struggled alongside Downes. 

[SNSUN]

7 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

Last win against them in any competition was four days after 9/11. Pahars scored the only goal. Last home win was in 1995, David Hughes scored the winner.

Seem to remember they beat us on the opening day one year. Just looked it up and it was 1997, at home. My formative CM years just trying to keep Saints in the Prem. Poor line up that day. Found the highlights,  Nathan Blake scored the winner.

https://www.premierleague.com/en/video/4566184/southampton-v-bolton-wanderers-1997-98-20-minute-highlights

Line was:

Paul Jones

Ken Monkou

Lee Todd

Richard Dryden

Robbie Slater

Matt Oakley

Jim Magilton

Neil Maddison

Andy Williams

Egil Ostenstadt

Mickey Evans.

No MLT, Evans was soon sold despite his end of season goals, Lee Todd was just shite, Slater, Maddison and Magilton only played a few more games before they were transferred out. I don't even remember Andy Williams! Early days for Dave Jones though as he started his rebuilding process with ageing pros like Palmer, Hirst and Richardson.

Hopefully the modern day squad can get a result. 

[Lord Duckhunter]

5 hours ago, Paul_B said:

Literally everything is pointing towards a 1-0 win to Bolton with Baz scoring the winner with a 102nd minute header from a corner 

Why do people have to exaggerate and make up ridiculous scenarios which are never going to happen…….Baz keeping a clean sheet, 😂😂

Edited 6 hours ago by Lord Duckhunter

[Paul_B]

Just now, Lord Duckhunter said:

Why do people have to exaggerate and make up ridiculous scenarios which are never going to happen…….Baz keeping a clean sheet, 😂😂

Haha. I just really hope everyone saying we're going to stick 4 or 5 past him doesn't backfire.

[qwertyell]

5 hours ago, Paul_B said:

Literally everything is pointing towards a 1-0 win to Bolton with Baz scoring the winner with a 102nd minute header from a corner after having the performance of his career.

Not one for predictions, but I'd bet my house if it's 0-0 going into the 102nd minute, Bolton are not sending their keeper up for a set piece. 

[VectisSaint]

1 hour ago, The Wyvern said:

Can’t have a central midfield of just JWP and Bragg. Surely got to play Jander or find another option. 

Why? We played 2 CMs nearly every post Still game last season, Downes, Jander, Charles and Bragg rotating both by game and in game. JWP has replaced Charles (not adequately in my opinion but there it is). Matsuki has slotted in on occasion.

[Dr Who?]

Our record against Bolton is not to great, but we have not played them in the league since our relegation season in April 2005, over 21 years ago. So completely clean slate really. We will win this 5-0. 
 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Dr Who?

[Badger]

3 hours ago, SNSUN said:

Seem to remember they beat us on the opening day one year. Just looked it up and it was 1997, at home. My formative CM years just trying to keep Saints in the Prem. Poor line up that day. Found the highlights,  Nathan Blake scored the winner.

https://www.premierleague.com/en/video/4566184/southampton-v-bolton-wanderers-1997-98-20-minute-highlights

Line was:

Paul Jones

Ken Monkou

Lee Todd

Richard Dryden

Robbie Slater

Matt Oakley

Jim Magilton

Neil Maddison

Andy Williams

Egil Ostenstadt

Mickey Evans.

No MLT, Evans was soon sold despite his end of season goals, Lee Todd was just shite, Slater, Maddison and Magilton only played a few more games before they were transferred out. I don't even remember Andy Williams! Early days for Dave Jones though as he started his rebuilding process with ageing pros like Palmer, Hirst and Richardson.

Hopefully the modern day squad can get a result. 

Wasn’t it Dave Jones first match in charge ?  
Think it was, with Lee Todd starting, didn’t last long even with Dave Jones. 

[SouthWalesSaints]

3 hours ago, VectisSaint said:

Why? We played 2 CMs nearly every post Still game last season, Downes, Jander, Charles and Bragg rotating both by game and in game. JWP has replaced Charles (not adequately in my opinion but there it is). Matsuki has slotted in on occasion.

JWP is miles ahead of Charles for lots of reasons - IMO.  And I love Shea.  
 

Literally always a 7/10, never injured, consistent and arguably one of the top 4/5 midfielders in the division. I’d say we have 3 of those 5 without knowing every single player I hasten to add. 

[The Wyvern]

4 hours ago, VectisSaint said:

Why? We played 2 CMs nearly every post Still game last season, Downes, Jander, Charles and Bragg rotating both by game and in game. JWP has replaced Charles (not adequately in my opinion but there it is). Matsuki has slotted in on occasion.

Because they both lack pace and tackling ability. 

[saintant]

19 minutes ago, SouthWalesSaints said:

JWP is miles ahead of Charles for lots of reasons - IMO.  And I love Shea.  
 

Literally always a 7/10, never injured, consistent and arguably one of the top 4/5 midfielders in the division. I’d say we have 3 of those 5 without knowing every single player I hasten to add. 

The issue I have when JWP plays in midfield is that he can't tackle or press. I get that he has lots of other attributes but his inability to win the ball regularly or close down opponents does concern me.

[SouthWalesSaints]

19 minutes ago, saintant said:

The issue I have when JWP plays in midfield is that he can't tackle or press. I get that he has lots of other attributes but his inability to win the ball regularly or close down opponents does concern me.

I think I’d disagree with this, he played for Ralph and we were a proper red bull 4222 front footed team.  But respect your views.  

[saintwbu]

Bragg and JWP played the second half of the Millwall and Bristol City games, both of which we were brilliant. 

[The Wyvern]

24 minutes ago, saintwbu said:

Bragg and JWP played the second half of the Millwall and Bristol City games, both of which we were brilliant. 

Fair point, that gives me more confidence.