TijuanaTim Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 I don't mean which one we need the most or which we liked the most. The one that left here ok, we don't dislike..and well would be welcome. Saint Ted is RIPing - so discounted. I would think that Sturrock would still be 'welcome' here, as would WGS and NP amongst others. Whereas Glenda and 'Awwy wouldn't?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 Nicholl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 WGS. Some hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Man Do Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 Branfoot? The man we all LOVED to hate :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 The Wee (BIG) man for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 Dave Bassett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 I would say Nicholl too. I feel he was given up on far too early even by modern standards and he was also a young manager still learning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 Portvliet. Not sure anyone really 'disliked' him, just recognised he was WAY out of his depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 Portvliet. Not sure anyone really 'disliked' him, just recognised he was WAY out of his depth. I hated him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 24 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 24 February, 2009 I hated him Yeah...but you liked 'Awwy Bassett FFS :-I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 Wigley with Redknapp as his wingman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 Portvliet. Not sure anyone really 'disliked' him, just recognised he was WAY out of his depth. I think that's a fair choice, given that most of us don't 'hate' the guy. In brighter days, a little money and slightly different strategy he may well have done well for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 I hated him I can't see how you could hate him. Of course he was out of his depth and probably our worst manager ever, but he never intended to be that way, nor did he come across as an ar5e. But back to the subject, of the recent lot, both WGS & Sturrock would get a warm welcome from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 WGS Pearson Nicholl In that order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 I don't mean which one we need the most or which we liked the most. The one that left here ok, we don't dislike..and well would be welcome. Saint Ted is RIPing - so discounted. I would think that Sturrock would still be 'welcome' here, as would WGS and NP amongst others. Whereas Glenda and 'Awwy wouldn't?? Agree with you on Sturrock and if he gets the boot from Plymouth - Radio Hampshire should employ him as their match summariser and replace Armstrong who's stock answer to any difficult question is 'well I wouldn't know about that'. Dave Jones is a great manager and a decent man who I think deserved better treatment than he got considering the circumstances. I would welcome back Hoddle long before I welcomed back Strachan. He was ok up to the cup final but thereafter he was equally culpable in his own departure and has since become a self styled parody of Ferguson in an annual two horse race. He gives the impression he is a big time football manager but there are far better working in Scotland with cash available less than Strachan's salary I should imagine. Dave Merrington would be entertaining only for calling everyone by their wrong name. Oh and no surprise but Lawrie McMenemy would be as welcome as a dose of dysentry on your once in a lifetime holiday in the Virgin Is. Solely because of his post managerial exploits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 Glennda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestSaint Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 Jones was ok although I felt he brought in far too many players when he arrived that were not good enough and seemed to take a while to get settled. I believe he has matured at Cardiff and is a good manager. Sturrock would be welcome as would Pearson who I believe has unfinished business with the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carljack Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 I don't mean which one we need the most or which we liked the most. The one that left here ok, we don't dislike..and well would be welcome. Saint Ted is RIPing - so discounted. I would think that Sturrock would still be 'welcome' here, as would WGS and NP amongst others. Whereas Glenda and 'Awwy wouldn't?? Dave Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 Hoddle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowsaintsfan Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 Wgs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 Agree with you on Sturrock and if he gets the boot from Plymouth - Radio Hampshire should employ him as their match summariser and replace Armstrong who's stock answer to any difficult question is 'well I wouldn't know about that'. Dave Jones is a great manager and a decent man who I think deserved better treatment than he got considering the circumstances. I would welcome back Hoddle long before I welcomed back Strachan. He was ok up to the cup final but thereafter he was equally culpable in his own departure and has since become a self styled parody of Ferguson in an annual two horse race. He gives the impression he is a big time football manager but there are far better working in Scotland with cash available less than Strachan's salary I should imagine. Dave Merrington would be entertaining only for calling everyone by their wrong name. Oh and no surprise but Lawrie McMenemy would be as welcome as a dose of dysentry on your once in a lifetime holiday in the Virgin Is. Solely because of his post managerial exploits. What a surprise, Sundance acting like a c u n t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 Redknapp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 hoddle,jones.pearson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickyhale Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 Graeme Souness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 25 February, 2009 Share Posted 25 February, 2009 I would say Nicholl too. I feel he was given up on far too early even by modern standards and he was also a young manager still learning. Some of the football under Chris Nicholl was breath taking, but considering he was a top notch defender some of our defending was shocking, you never reallly new what was going to happen on any given day :cool: He was a young relatively inexperienced manager, who put everything he had into the club. Remember back in those days there weren't a million and one coaches, trainers, scouts, directors of football and cone movers, the manager did all of that and make tea at half time probably If he'd had a wily old hand to help him through I'm sure he would have gone onto bigger and better things with us. The young players he had at his disposal makes me drawl now thinking of theat 4-1 thrashing of one of the all time great Liverpool sides at The Dell. None of that 1 up front for a home game, lets make it 4 He cared for the club that is for sure. On one of The Club's videos from way back when he talks of the club as 'us' and vows to play attractive football as that is the only sort 'our fans' will accept. That is what they have been brought up on and will accept nothing less. Always had a great respect for the man as a player, manager and as a person. I admired Souness as well and thank him for dragging the club into Premiership Reality by buying classy foreign players to supplement the home grown and lower league buys. His astute signings of Claus, Egil, Berkovic and man mountain Van Gobbel on a relatively small budget showed great promise and it was a shame when it all ended up in tears when no further funds were on the horizon. To be honest the only one I wouldn't welcome back with open arms is Redkrap. Never threw himself into it and once he realised it he should have slithered back under the stone from whence he came rather than dragging our club down. At least Branfoot somehow kept us up in The Prem, despite evrything, but I think much of that was the Spirit of Southampton within the fans and players alike that kept us going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilsburydoughboy Posted 25 February, 2009 Share Posted 25 February, 2009 I think it would have to be WGS.He had the players fitter than they had or have been since, they were disciplined and playing with confidence.His post match interview were quite amusing to boot:D:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefuriousb Posted 25 February, 2009 Share Posted 25 February, 2009 I can't see how you could hate him. Of course he was out of his depth and probably our worst manager ever, but he never intended to be that way, nor did he come across as an ar5e. But back to the subject, of the recent lot, both WGS & Sturrock would get a warm welcome from me. Though he had one of the better, if not best, away record of any saints manager. He really is a difficult one to assess. Are there any stats on our manager's and away records? Anyway, the 4-2-4 of Nicholl for me (Tiss, Shearer, Ridout, Wallet). The Halcyon days spent on the under east terrace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 25 February, 2009 Share Posted 25 February, 2009 Strachan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 25 February, 2009 Share Posted 25 February, 2009 WGS. Has taken Celtic as far as anyone can Has a home down here Has unfinished business IF he could be re-motivated Has a contract up for renewal in the summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 25 February, 2009 Share Posted 25 February, 2009 Strachan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDonkey Posted 25 February, 2009 Share Posted 25 February, 2009 I'd welcome back all but Redknapp as a visitor. I'd welcome back Strachan as a manager (Nicholl's a bit too old now). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 25 February, 2009 Share Posted 25 February, 2009 I don't mean which one we need the most or which we liked the most. The one that left here ok, we don't dislike..and well would be welcome. Saint Ted is RIPing - so discounted. I would think that Sturrock would still be 'welcome' here, as would WGS and NP amongst others. Whereas Glenda and 'Awwy wouldn't?? St Ted has never left us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 25 February, 2009 Share Posted 25 February, 2009 Agree with you on Sturrock and if he gets the boot from Plymouth - Radio Hampshire should employ him as their match summariser and replace Armstrong who's stock answer to any difficult question is 'well I wouldn't know about that'. Dave Jones is a great manager and a decent man who I think deserved better treatment than he got considering the circumstances. I would welcome back Hoddle long before I welcomed back Strachan. He was ok up to the cup final but thereafter he was equally culpable in his own departure and has since become a self styled parody of Ferguson in an annual two horse race. He gives the impression he is a big time football manager but there are far better working in Scotland with cash available less than Strachan's salary I should imagine. Dave Merrington would be entertaining only for calling everyone by their wrong name. Oh and no surprise but Lawrie McMenemy would be as welcome as a dose of dysentry on your once in a lifetime holiday in the Virgin Is. Solely because of his post managerial exploits. do you just post to wind people up? Or are you just so "pro lowe" that anyone who crossed him you dislike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 25 February, 2009 Share Posted 25 February, 2009 I'd welcome back all but Redknapp as a visitor. I'd welcome back Strachan as a manager (Nicholl's a bit too old now). A bit old maybe considering he hasn't done it for years, but he is still younger than many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capel Saint Posted 25 February, 2009 Share Posted 25 February, 2009 I'd welcome back all but Redknapp as a visitor. I'd welcome back Strachan as a manager (Nicholl's a bit too old now). Strachan for me. As has been said before. he got the side fitter and put some of his transfer budget in attracting youth players to Southampton of which some moved onto bigger clubs giving the club much needed finance (albeit a lot of it wasted on average players). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 25 February, 2009 Share Posted 25 February, 2009 WGS and Pearson for me. In many ways they seem to be cut from the same cloth somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 25 February, 2009 Share Posted 25 February, 2009 Are we allowed to choose ex-coaches as managers? If so, then Nick Holmes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliemiller Posted 25 February, 2009 Share Posted 25 February, 2009 As above glyn snodin all went downhill when he left IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 25 February, 2009 Share Posted 25 February, 2009 Redknapp Is that for real???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperm_john Posted 25 February, 2009 Share Posted 25 February, 2009 Hoddle strachan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 25 February, 2009 Share Posted 25 February, 2009 Jones was ok although I felt he brought in far too many players when he arrived that were not good enough and seemed to take a while to get settled. I believe he has matured at Cardiff and is a good manager. Sturrock would be welcome as would Pearson who I believe has unfinished business with the club. I agree with you about Dave Jones. Heaven alone knows what it must have been like for him (as an innocent man) to have a charge like that hanging over him for nearly a year !...( Talk about focusing ón the job as a Prem.manager !! ) However, even without that I believe he was almost ready for the push. If you look back (as I have) at our postion then, we'd sunk dangerously down the table and a few more bad results would have seen him OUT anyway !.... As it was he got " gardening leave" on full pay. Fair deal. I still think Lowe's decision was correct (and dare I say the word in the current climate) even honourable. Quite a few clubs might have justifiably sacked DJ for bad results, and then bought in Hoddle anyway (who undoubtedly steadied the team at a crucial time ). I did like DJ as a manager, but the circumstances clearly were against him at the time - but at least we survived with Hoddle at the helm. Honestly speaking I was more impressed by Hoddle's career/ achievements (except for omitting our penalty specialist Matt LeTissier from the 98 World Cup, only to see us exit the competition ...on a penalty shoot-out.! ) Bad call Glenn! Ted Bates and Lawrie Mac are in a class of their own, but I also liked Chris Nicholl and of course Strachan....as for the rest ...not overly impressed, though for me, the jury will still be out on Mark Wotte until May 3rd ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whizzpop Posted 25 February, 2009 Share Posted 25 February, 2009 Strachan, Hoddle, Pearson, Sturrock, Jones, Burley, Nicholl, Souness, Wise, Bassett, Gray, Gorman, Poortvliet, Merrington, Wigley, Dodd, McMenemy, Redknapp, Branfoot, in that order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 25 February, 2009 Share Posted 25 February, 2009 Strachan, Hoddle, Pearson, Sturrock, Jones, Burley, Nicholl, Souness, Wise, Bassett, Gray, Gorman, Poortvliet, Merrington, Wigley, Dodd, McMenemy, Redknapp, Branfoot, in that order. I can see how McMenemy winning the FA Cup and getting us to also finish 2nd in the league behind Liverpool would be behind Dodd and only just in front of Redknapp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 25 February, 2009 Share Posted 25 February, 2009 The Dodd / Gorman dream team....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 25 February, 2009 Share Posted 25 February, 2009 do you just post to wind people up? Or are you just so "pro lowe" that anyone who crossed him you dislike? FFS how is that a wind up - chist some of you and FFTF are jsut feckin wierd - NIneteen prefers HOddle over WGS. Whats that got to with anything else? Jeez.. his commenst about WGS whilst maybe harsh to have an element of truth in them as hard as it may seem to hear. Yet your obsessive lowist sheite is clouding your better judgement FFS get a grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 25 February, 2009 Share Posted 25 February, 2009 I can see how McMenemy winning the FA Cup and getting us to also finish 2nd in the league behind Liverpool would be behind Dodd and only just in front of Redknapp. Think hes talking about how intouch they would eb NOW - LM was a different era, past his prime when he went to sunderland and England - does not diminish what he achieved in his prime, but based on TODAY, the others are probably a better bet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeleye Saint Posted 25 February, 2009 Share Posted 25 February, 2009 Nobody wants Lawrie Mac! His teams served up the most exciting attacking football we've ever seen - won us the FA Cup and came 2nd in the league! Who can come close? Heady days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 25 February, 2009 Share Posted 25 February, 2009 Some of the football under Chris Nicholl was breath taking, but considering he was a top notch defender some of our defending was shocking, you never reallly new what was going to happen on any given day :cool: He was a young relatively inexperienced manager, who put everything he had into the club. Remember back in those days there weren't a million and one coaches, trainers, scouts, directors of football and cone movers, the manager did all of that and make tea at half time probably If he'd had a wily old hand to help him through I'm sure he would have gone onto bigger and better things with us. The young players he had at his disposal makes me drawl now thinking of theat 4-1 thrashing of one of the all time great Liverpool sides at The Dell. None of that 1 up front for a home game, lets make it 4 He cared for the club that is for sure. On one of The Club's videos from way back when he talks of the club as 'us' and vows to play attractive football as that is the only sort 'our fans' will accept. That is what they have been brought up on and will accept nothing less. Always had a great respect for the man as a player, manager and as a person. I admired Souness as well and thank him for dragging the club into Premiership Reality by buying classy foreign players to supplement the home grown and lower league buys. His astute signings of Claus, Egil, Berkovic and man mountain Van Gobbel on a relatively small budget showed great promise and it was a shame when it all ended up in tears when no further funds were on the horizon. To be honest the only one I wouldn't welcome back with open arms is Redkrap. Never threw himself into it and once he realised it he should have slithered back under the stone from whence he came rather than dragging our club down. At least Branfoot somehow kept us up in The Prem, despite evrything, but I think much of that was the Spirit of Southampton within the fans and players alike that kept us going Nicholl could have been good, but Tony Adams seems very similar to me - clearly a good player, clearly contributes in a team situation, but maybe wasn't/isn't the real deal when it comes to final managerial responsibility. Souness - I can't agree - the bloke has been useless virtually everywhere, unless he can buy success in an uncompetitive league. He certainly has no time for a youth system. I'd have liked to see Sturrock supported for longer and with some cash. It galls me that Redcrapp takes the credit for Peter Crouch when Sturrock signed him, but was (IMO) prevented from using him as he wanted because RL wanted to play Beattie to get a better price for him in the winter window, even though Beats clearly was not up for it at the time. His health issues would maybe stop me from being quite so keen on Sturrock now. But I certainly think he's better than Plymouth's current form suggests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Posted 25 February, 2009 Share Posted 25 February, 2009 Larwie in his 40's for me. We could then look foward to the signing of David Beckham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 25 February, 2009 Share Posted 25 February, 2009 Nobody wants Lawrie Mac! His teams served up the most exciting attacking football we've ever seen - won us the FA Cup and came 2nd in the league! Who can come close? Heady days... Agreed Lawrie was our greatest manager however he is a bit old now. My choice would be: WGS, Jones and Nicholl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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