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What is this stupid obsession some on here have with Holloway? The blokes bloody useless aside from his half decent Plymouth days, with a team built by you guessed ... Sturrock! Did an excellent job with Leicester and should be consigned to sky punditry for good not here thanks. As for Ince or Boothroyd? At the moment we couldnt even poach Eddie Howe from Bournemouth!

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Just like relegation to the Championship would be a fresh start for us. A chance to clear out the deadwood, get in players who care about the club and get in a new manager. Things will be much easier and we will bounce back within a year or two, we will walk this league.

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Just like relegation to the Championship would be a fresh start for us. A chance to clear out the deadwood, get in players who care about the club and get in a new manager. Things will be much easier and we will bounce back within a year or two, we will walk this league.

 

I thought I had heard it all before

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To think it will be easy in Div 3 is dreamworld.........the only easy way will be down into Div 4.............this lot have nothing in them..........and without a totally new start I fear the rotten driftwood that masquerades as a football "team" will find itself cut adrrift and floundering by mid September............oh what joy!!..........

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Hmm, makes you wonder what our team will look like next season too.

 

With so many first-team players out of contract, we could be back to square one with a bunch of kids.

 

Just have to hope that the new owners, if there are any, have a bit of money to invest into the first-team.

 

Possible line-up with no additional signings?

 

---------------------- Forecast/Bialkowski -----------------------

 

James/Hatch --- Perry/Lancashire --- Thomas/??? --- Mills/Molyneux

 

McLaggon/Thomson -- Wotton/Gillett -- Pulis/Gobern -- Holmes/Smith

 

------------ Paterson/White ----- McGoldrick/??? ----------------

 

With McGoldrick bagging himself 13 goals this season, there may well be a bit of interest from Champ teams, possibly newly promoted?

 

No guarantee that Perry and Wotton will stay, and to be honest, I wouldn't lose any sleep if the latter left.

 

Thomas is no doubt on a relatively big wage, and so I wouldn't be surprised if he left, although he could be quite useful in League One.

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Hmm, makes you wonder what our team will look like next season too.

 

With so many first-team players out of contract, we could be back to square one with a bunch of kids.

 

Just have to hope that the new owners, if there are any, have a bit of money to invest into the first-team.

 

Possible line-up with no additional signings?

 

---------------------- Forecast/Bialkowski -----------------------

 

James/Hatch --- Perry/Lancashire --- Thomas/??? --- Mills/Molyneux

 

McLaggon/Thomson -- Wotton/Gillett -- Pulis/Gobern -- Holmes/Smith

 

------------ Patterson/White ----- McGoldrick/??? ----------------

 

With McGoldrick bagging himself 13 goals this season, there may well be a bit of interest from Champ teams, possibly newly promoted?

 

No guarantee that Perry and Wotton will stay, and to be honest, I wouldn't lose any sleep if the latter left.

 

Thomas is no doubt on a relatively big wage, and so I wouldn't be surprised if he left, although he could be quite useful in League One.

 

Isn't Wotton on a 3 year contract?

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Isn't Wotton on a 3 year contract?

 

Our main problem is disposing of Skacel,Rasiak and Saganowski and Euell (but he's out of contract) before the weight of their salary mass drags us down again.

 

Plus if BWP is still here next season, well we'll go straight down again and again and again till he's gone.

 

When I saw his name on the team sheet today I knew we'd lose.

 

A complete and utter waste of space.

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Our main problem is disposing of Skacel,Rasiak and Saganowski and Euell (but he's out of contract) before the weight of their salary mass drags us down again.

 

Plus if BWP is still here next season, well we'll go straight down again and again and again till he's gone.

 

When I saw his name on the team sheet today I knew we'd lose.

 

A complete and utter waste of space.

 

 

 

From day one BWP has been a big question mark.:?:.....Never a footballer at this level.......Conference might see a few goals from him with speed at that level......I am thinking he could or is HCDAJFU in a couple of years time alongside Gasmi, Pulis, Smith, Holmes, Spiderman, Forecast against Forest Green Rovers.;)

 

 

I can now see the long term planning......Lowey you are a football genius...

Praise also to your two very astute Dutch boyzz JP and Wotte.:smt086

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Our new start next season will be with

 

Either a proven PL level manager who has fallen off the map and is prepared to come in on a "last chance to get back to the big time" type deal of about 50k a year and bonuses

 

OR an up and coming backroom guy from a bigger club who is now ready to take the next step, let me think? Oh yeah, someone like Pearson

 

I honestly do NOT believe we should be looking at a "first job" ex player (ie they HAVE to have served an apprenticeship first somewhere behind the scenes) and we shouldn't be looking as a fast risen fast fallen not proven name.

 

I just HOPE that IF we survive the people who make that decision start with a clean slate and ask some independent experts, not the first agent to come calling

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Lets get Boothroyd, Ince or Holloway in and walk League 1 and start again with out all the old merceneries and dutch *****s!

 

 

FIRST of all, we have to be "taken over " by someone ......... and to me, even now, that is just as remote a possibility as it has always been

 

IMHO, Mr Lowe is waiting in the wings, to front up a Hotch Potch Consortium, to lead us to "The Next Level" ........... Division 2

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Our new start next season will be with

 

Either a proven PL level manager who has fallen off the map and is prepared to come in on a "last chance to get back to the big time" type deal of about 50k a year and bonuses

 

OR an up and coming backroom guy from a bigger club who is now ready to take the next step, let me think? Oh yeah, someone like Pearson

 

I honestly do NOT believe we should be looking at a "first job" ex player (ie they HAVE to have served an apprenticeship first somewhere behind the scenes) and we shouldn't be looking as a fast risen fast fallen not proven name.

 

I just HOPE that IF we survive the people who make that decision start with a clean slate and ask some independent experts, not the first agent to come calling

 

Please get real ..... We are now (virtually in Division 1) ... We no longer have any CLOUT as regards picking and choosing ANYTHING, players OR Manager

 

WE ARE NOW THE POOR RELATIONS OF LOWER LEVEL FOOTBALL

 

Thank God Lowe came back to save us .... otherwise we'd really be in the Sh*t ........

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Tisdale, Nic Holmes or Le Tiss for me.

 

Le Tiss and Franny would be a good team I reckon.

 

If we have wiped some debt out and have a decent chairman / board next season I'd also like to see us keep maybe 5 of the current squad, sign 6 good journeyman pros who are used to playing in Div 3 / 4 and see if Le Tiss can get a couple of decent older players in on loan through his media contacts.

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Anyone else worried with the big clearout in the Summer that we may struggle to stay in League 1 next year - especially as 4 sides go down and we'll likely start on -10 (IMHO of course).

 

Who knows what will happen in the coming months. We're in the same position as leeds and with their points deduction they made it to the play-off final.

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Anyone else worried with the big clearout in the Summer that we may struggle to stay in League 1 next year - especially as 4 sides go down and we'll likely start on -10 (IMHO of course).

 

Agreed a lot depends on who buys the club.

my concern is that our academy does not produce big strong players, we almost seem to turn away anyone over 6ft,

 

the whole club will need restructuring and unless we have a manager who can pick up good strong non league players capable of making the transistion to full time pros we will struggle

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Agreed a lot depends on who buys the club.

my concern is that our academy does not produce big strong players, we almost seem to turn away anyone over 6ft,

 

the whole club will need restructuring and unless we have a manager who can pick up good strong non league players capable of making the transistion to full time pros we will struggle

 

Completely agree Mike. Physically we've not been a match for most sides this season. Add a complete lack of pace in the team, no leadership, little fight, poor fitness, wrong formation, managers who lack knowledge of this division.... I could go on sadly. Its no surprise we're in this sorry state.

 

The only ray of sunshine for me is that the backing from the fans this season has been superb considering the complete shambles we've endured

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Lets get Boothroyd, Ince or Holloway in and walk League 1 and start again with out all the old merceneries and dutch *****s!

 

Fresh start, yes but as for the above - No.All of the above are just w^nk;albeit to varying degrees of 9,18 and 24ct w^nk.

 

Widdrington is a forum p!sstake,Holmes a nonstarter,and whoever suggested Martin Allen should take a closer look as to how wellhe has done at Cheltenham.

 

Tisdale is the outstanding option.

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What is this stupid obsession some on here have with Holloway? The blokes bloody useless aside from his half decent Plymouth days, with a team built by you guessed ... Sturrock! Did an excellent job with Leicester and should be consigned to sky punditry for good not here thanks. As for Ince or Boothroyd? At the moment we couldnt even poach Eddie Howe from Bournemouth!

 

Agree don't want Holloway he done a shocking job at Leicester spending a bit of money too.

 

What about Paul Tisdale, he's done a fantastic job at Exeter and Team Bath

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I definately do not want Le Tiss as manager. I want to remember him as the the absolute genius of a player that he was and not the hopeless sh!t manager, incapable of building a team good enough to challenge for promotion from the dizzy depths of League 1. A total clean sweep from the board-room and a manager that has no historic links to SFC is the way to go IMO. We've had too much sentimentality in the past when it has come to promoting from within or keeping crocked players, in the hope that they will come good, eventually.

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At the Q & A evening last Thursday Matt Le Tissier was asked if he'd ever consider managing Saints. His reply was that he started doing his coaching badges but found the process incredibly boring so halfway through part 2 he chucked it in. As he pointed out, to be able to manage in the Football league you need these badges so he said the answer to the question is NO, I will never manage Saints. I for one am glad of this as I dont ever want to be in the position where the team is struggling and we have to sack a club legend and have our memories of him soured. Remember Spurs and Hoddle!

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Did anyone hear Milan talking about Leicester's promotion push this season. He reckons it cost him £10m - twice what Crouch 'gambled' last year. The world has gone made. How can you justify that sort of invstment just to get to the CCC?

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Anyone else worried with the big clearout in the Summer that we may struggle to stay in League 1 next year - especially as 4 sides go down and we'll likely start on -10 (IMHO of course).

 

We have to clear out the dead wood, sell those that can be sold for whatever they fetch or swop where we can, then get in virtually a whole new squad, otherwise we are going nowhere with the flaky bunch we are currently saddled with.

 

FFS they can't even take a decent corner or free kick and when did a forward last score from a header or a tap in, that says it all for me.

 

We need more players with the character of Gillett.

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Did anyone hear Milan talking about Leicester's promotion push this season. He reckons it cost him £10m - twice what Crouch 'gambled' last year. The world has gone made. How can you justify that sort of invstment just to get to the CCC?

 

Think you need to get behind the words and really understand what he was saying.

 

Have a listen to this one and it's not exactly as you are saying:

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/leicester_city/8004742.stm

 

And I think the £10m relates to prior monies invested (i.e. inc the pruchase and funding last season etc etc etc)

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/2299310/Milan-Mandaric-fears-a-10m-nightmare.html

 

They have not spent big on transfer fees this season and the BBC interview refers to this quite clearly.

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Hmm, makes you wonder what our team will look like next season too.

 

With so many first-team players out of contract, we could be back to square one with a bunch of kids.

 

Just have to hope that the new owners, if there are any, have a bit of money to invest into the first-team.

 

Possible line-up with no additional signings?

 

---------------------- Forecast/Bialkowski -----------------------

 

James/Hatch --- Perry/Lancashire --- Thomas/??? --- Mills/Molyneux

 

McLaggon/Thomson -- Wotton/Gillett -- Pulis/Gobern -- Holmes/Smith

 

------------ Paterson/White ----- McGoldrick/??? ----------------

 

With McGoldrick bagging himself 13 goals this season, there may well be a bit of interest from Champ teams, possibly newly promoted?

 

No guarantee that Perry and Wotton will stay, and to be honest, I wouldn't lose any sleep if the latter left.

 

Thomas is no doubt on a relatively big wage, and so I wouldn't be surprised if he left, although he could be quite useful in League One.

 

that squad will be relegated from League 1 IMO.

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that squad will be relegated from League 1 IMO.

 

Afraid to say it, but I agree with you. We just have to hope that the new owners, if there are any, have a bit of money to invest into the first-team. Otherwise we could struggle to stay in League One! Who'd be a Saints fan ay!? :p

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