StuRomseySaint Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 ... will it be an end to all of the silly 'fan on the board' ideas? Can we just have a club which has a dedicated customer relations department, regular fans forums and transparancy when it comes to fans issues and footballing matters? I hope so, I am really looking forward to a fresh start, and that means everything, from the stadium ( Itchen North please ), the supporters groups, the team and the beer ( no more Carlsberg thanks, Stella please ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee_saint Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 ... will it be an end to all of the silly 'fan on the board' ideas? Can we just have a club which has a dedicated customer relations department, regular fans forums and transparancy when it comes to fans issues and footballing matters? I hope so, I am really looking forward to a fresh start, and that means everything, from the stadium ( Itchen North please ), the supporters groups, the team and the beer ( no more Carlsberg thanks, Stella please ) Pikey, be nice to be like Eastlands which has a choice of beers. Bud, Stella and something else if I remember rightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 what a surprise you drink Stella! Would never have guessed...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Private ownership could result in less transparency, no fans' forum at all and a far more business oriented approach (if that's possible) and there'd be even less anyone could do about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 31 May, 2009 Author Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Private ownership could result in less transparency, no fans' forum at all and a far more business oriented approach (if that's possible) and there'd be even less anyone could do about it. To be fair, I can't see it being any more 'business orientated' than it has the past 10 years. I know under single ownership, there is the possibility that the owner could do what he likes, but if MLT has given it his blessing, then this is highly unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 ... will it be an end to all of the silly 'fan on the board' ideas? Can we just have a club which has a dedicated customer relations department, regular fans forums and transparancy when it comes to fans issues and footballing matters? I hope so, I am really looking forward to a fresh start, and that means everything, from the stadium ( Itchen North please ), the supporters groups, the team and the beer ( no more Carlsberg thanks, Stella please ) Staropramen would be good actually, it's becoming more popular and surely it'd be cheaper being an Eastern European beer? It's nice we're able to discuss things like which beer we'd like on the concourse again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latter day saint Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 i would like to buy a pint of cider, not one of those stupid half pint plastic bottles, thank you very much! they're only good if you want to make a snakebite & i aint a pikey or a student so no ta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 They were doing pints of Strongbow before, now they're selling Magners in half pint bottles, which are more bloody expensive than the pints used to be! Defo needs sorting IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 That's twice that 'pikey' has been mentioned on Stu's thread. Is there a 'common' denominator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 31 May, 2009 Author Share Posted 31 May, 2009 That's twice that 'pikey' has been mentioned on Stu's thread. Is there a 'common' denominator? I live in Baddesley, we don't have pikeys here, thankyou very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 You're welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 (edited) We do have a fan on board! The best fan possible! Matthew Le Tissier Better than a Nick Illingsworth or Richard Chorley type on the board! "I wanna be in media spotlight and my personnal views speak for all Saints fans" Edited 31 May, 2009 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadeem Hardison Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Is the Bede's Lea still in North Baddersley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Get the real ales in....!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Is the Bede's Lea still in North Baddersley? Think he is the academy coach at Newcastle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxfordshire_saint Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 As far as food and drink goes, I can't look past my German football experiences. A cold pint of pils and a bratwurst are perfect for football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 ... will it be an end to all of the silly 'fan on the board' ideas? Can we just have a club which has a dedicated customer relations department, regular fans forums and transparancy when it comes to fans issues and footballing matters? I hope so, I am really looking forward to a fresh start, and that means everything, from the stadium ( Itchen North please ), the supporters groups, the team and the beer ( no more Carlsberg thanks, Stella please ) Christ, the new owner really has some big decisions to make, eh ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 ... will it be an end to all of the silly 'fan on the board' ideas? Can we just have a club which has a dedicated customer relations department, regular fans forums and transparancy when it comes to fans issues and footballing matters? I hope so, I am really looking forward to a fresh start, and that means everything, from the stadium ( Itchen North please ), the supporters groups, the team and the beer ( no more Carlsberg thanks, Stella please ) Stu, Methinks so many lessons have been learnt on how NOT to run a football club with Lowe that the owners will be warned against all sorts of mistakes and courses of action by us all. I think that lesson 1 has to be listen to the fans - especially the more sensible ones! We all told Lowe on this forum and its predecessor when he was about to make another **** up. I hope the new owners can heed some of that advice. MLT gets it, he's been monitoring this messageboard for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 We do have a fan on board! The best fan possible! Matthew Le Tissier Better than a Nick Illingsworth or Richard Chorley type on the board! "I wanna be in media spotlight and my personnal views speak for all Saints fans" not sure Mat gives a **** if we have Stella or Cider on tap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 As far as food and drink goes, I can't look past my German football experiences. A cold pint of pils and a bratwurst are perfect for football. Especially if served up by buxom germanic serving wenches... Back on theme,Guinness would be a good pre-match drink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadeem Hardison Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Stella is one step up from WKD Blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Bizzle Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 I live in Baddesley, we don't have pikeys here, thankyou very much. Fair few up flemming. Saying that, thats an isolated area. Also Noodles, wtf is wrong with stella?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Stella is for chavs. Carlsberg Export or 1664 is so much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Stella is one step up from WKD Blue. Up? I'm not convinced. Stella tastes like it's been wrung out of a syphillitic cat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 ]not sure Mat gives a **** if we have Stella or Cider on tap[/b]. I'm confident that he'll ensure the burgers are up to standard though, eh ?? It's all about priorities really ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Stella is disgusting. I may even boycott St Marys if they make Stella their main beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Up? I'm not convinced. Stella tastes like it's been wrung out of a syphillitic cat. And just how would you know what a syphillitic cat might taste like? Bearing in mind that you are a man of unrivalled taste and style :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 One of the "major" issues to be sorted out during "the Due Dilligence phase" will be the contract for the "Pouring Rights". This horrible phrase popped up once before on a booze thread. I think it still has some time to run, so HOPEFULLY it will be one of those pieces of paper that can be "torn up" in the new operation and the new guys actually CAN do something about the beer. But don't get your hopes up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Stella tastes like it's been wrung out of a syphillitic cat. Is that talking from experience of drinking both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Just don't get it do you Stu! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 1 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I may even boycott St Marys if they make Stella their main beer. And here is more of a reason than any for SFC to ensure we serve Stella next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Private ownership could result in less transparency, no fans' forum at all and a far more business oriented approach (if that's possible) and there'd be even less anyone could do about it. Quite possible and going by some of the usual mongs reactions to the letter on here they just may decide to do just that. Why bother being open and transparent when you get accused of being another Wilde even before you have taken over and given a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Is that talking from experience of drinking both? Actually no, I undertook weeks of serious market research to come to that conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Fair few up flemming. Saying that, thats an isolated area. Also Noodles, wtf is wrong with stella?? Exactly! You sound like you wanna fight already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 1 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Just don't get it do you Stu! I do get it! Now we have our club back, and it being a private one as well, there is no need for a 'fan on the board' and the Saints Trust is nothing more than a 'supporters club' now anyway. But if they want to have something to make sure they get on the TV and the Radio, then reform TSA or something, just stay away from the silly 'fan on the board' idea... there are much better ways of giving fans their say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerBadger Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Is the Bede's Lea still in North Baddersley? Think he is the academy coach at Newcastle Whooooosh.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 ... will it be an end to all of the silly 'fan on the board' ideas? Can we just have a club which has a dedicated customer relations department, regular fans forums and transparancy when it comes to fans issues and footballing matters? I hope so, I am really looking forward to a fresh start, and that means everything, from the stadium ( Itchen North please ), the supporters groups, the team and the beer ( no more Carlsberg thanks, Stella please ) Any private business wanting feedback from its fans can do worse than get one in an advisory capacity... of course it depends who they are and who they're actually representing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Think he is the academy coach at Newcastle Very good sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Any private business wanting feedback from its fans can do worse than get one in an advisory capacity... of course it depends who they are and who they're actually representing. Exactly. Challenge is that most of the voices of fandom tend to be self-appointed narcissists. But I suppose if they found someone thoughtful, realistic and sensible they'd hardly be representative of us lot, would they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Exactly. Challenge is that most of the voices of fandom tend to be self-appointed narcissists. But I suppose if they found someone thoughtful, realistic and sensible they'd hardly be representative of us lot, would they? I'd want a fans' rep to be doing the rounds and arranging something like an MP's surgery, in order to get people's opinions, a bit like like a politician - and the politicking to end there... ...of course, focus groups and workshops and such like, which would actually produce the kind of results that would be of use and be representative, are also the kind of new-fangled lefty nonsense (or something) that yer self appointed man on the street scoffs at. I should think it's a pretty thankless job, done properly you'd spend 95% of your time gathering opinions and 5% representing them, when in reality it would probably be 10% gathering opinions, 5% representing them and 85% defending yourself again people slagging you off for some perceived bias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 As far as food and drink goes, I can't look past my German football experiences. A cold pint of pils and a bratwurst are perfect for football. Agreed! ;-) - Especially at the the old Munich Olympic stadium when 3-1 up (5-1 fullt time) in a WC Qualifier! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Another thing of course, is the best way to be in touch with fans' perceptions is to be at all matches home and away, but the second the club offers any kind of benefit to the role there's an accusation of "favours" and selling out. The lack of anything resembling a workable democracy doesn't help either, there are far too many self-interested groups claiming to be representative, which allied to general apathy makes for a really messy "get all your mates to vote" student union type mess. What is actually needed is something linked to season ticket ownership and away attendance which allows people to attend and vote, kind of like the shareholders' meeting but without the PLC undertones. Then again even workable democracy is hardly a shining example nowadays. Sod it, self-appointed narcissist, you say ? I'll do it. :smt117 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Whooooosh.............. Indeed Edit: Actually, Pancake got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 And here is more of a reason than any for SFC to ensure we serve Stella next season. Stekll which is bewed here under license is full of chemicals and tastes like its been through half the population of pompey before its recycled into your glass - If you are a 'lager' man - get back to the roots - Czech or German Pilsner brewed to the 'Reinheitsgeburt' (prurity law) which only allows the trad 4 ingredients and NO additivies - better taste, less hangover They wont put on a 5% lager anyway - so Becks Vier would be reasonable choice - but then again it all taste like warm **** when served in those plastic tumblers... ;-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 What about if Baroness Heinekin is behind the takeover ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 What about if Baroness Heinekin is behind the takeover ? the drinks will be on her ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Matt Le Tissier is the only fan on the board we need. Let the trust die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 How about some proper beer, Ringwood Bitter or something rather than all this chavvy lager stuff We're not all teenagers you know LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted 3 June, 2009 Share Posted 3 June, 2009 ... will it be an end to all of the silly 'fan on the board' ideas? Can we just have a club which has a dedicated customer relations department, regular fans forums and transparancy when it comes to fans issues and footballing matters? QUOTE] You may see it as silly, that's you're right Stu; but you've made the point so many times that I suspect it has become a bit of an obsession...but I will try to fill in some facts for you. When we started the Saints Trust we had several ambitions, one of which was the possibility of having a fan on the board. We thought that would be at least 3-4 years down the line as there other more pressing matters to address on behalf of our members (despite comments to the contrary we never pretended to represent the whole fan base - we were careful to always state we represented our members). However, SLH board pushed aggressively to move the idea forward more quickly. IMHO this issue clouded the Trust's judgement, led to a breakdown in the board and we lost direction. But that's the past. In terms of the future, it would be nice to have a fans forum but you will still find certain fans wanting to take a leading role in its formation and development; nothing wrong with that; somebody has to step forward; but unless more people show an interest in getting involved you will see the same faces 'representing' fans. So, unless you want to invest your own personal time in these initiatives Stu...see what I mean? You can't have it both ways. Personally I think the way forward is for the new board to ask fans to apply for a non-Exec position; no obligation to appoint if the calibre is not good enough; but if someone can demonstrate a real love for the club combined with solid commercial/marketing/financial/voluntary experience then why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 3 June, 2009 Share Posted 3 June, 2009 ... will it be an end to all of the silly 'fan on the board' ideas? Can we just have a club which has a dedicated customer relations department, regular fans forums and transparancy when it comes to fans issues and footballing matters? You may see it as silly, that's you're right Stu; but you've made the point so many times that I suspect it has become a bit of an obsession...but I will try to fill in some facts for you. When we started the Saints Trust we had several ambitions, one of which was the possibility of having a fan on the board. We thought that would be at least 3-4 years down the line as there other more pressing matters to address on behalf of our members (despite comments to the contrary we never pretended to represent the whole fan base - we were careful to always state we represented our members). However, SLH board pushed aggressively to move the idea forward more quickly. IMHO this issue clouded the Trust's judgement, led to a breakdown in the board and we lost direction. But that's the past. In terms of the future, it would be nice to have a fans forum but you will still find certain fans wanting to take a leading role in its formation and development; nothing wrong with that; somebody has to step forward; but unless more people show an interest in getting involved you will see the same faces 'representing' fans. So, unless you want to invest your own personal time in these initiatives Stu...see what I mean? You can't have it both ways. Personally I think the way forward is for the new board to ask fans to apply for a non-Exec position; no obligation to appoint if the calibre is not good enough; but if someone can demonstrate a real love for the club combined with solid commercial/marketing/financial/voluntary experience then why not? MLT is all the fan we need on the board, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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