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With football league using teh Golden share as leavergae against the -10 point appeal, having MJ state they are ready if pinnacle fails is a nightmare as this gives teh FL the get out clause - eg... Saints wont fail if we stop pinnacle because they have other potential bidders in te wings who might not insist on a right of appeal.... MJ stay away FFS , until its over one way or another... although teh damage is already done IMHO... Why the feck could you not keep quiet and out of the media....Jeez

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With football league using teh Golden share as leavergae against the -10 point appeal' date=' having MJ state they are ready if pinnacle fails is a nightmare as this gives teh FL the get out clause - eg... Saints wont fail if we stop pinnacle because they have other potential bidders in te wings who might not insist on a right of appeal.... MJ stay away FFS , until its over one way or another... although teh damage is already done IMHO... Why the feck could you not keep quiet and out of the media....Jeez[/quote']

 

You didn't really need to ask that question Frank, he just loves the illusion that he has some sort of celebrity status.

 

In the end It won't matter and he won't be involved. I expect the Swiss to be in there somewhere if in the unlikely event of Pinnacle not closing the deal.

 

I expect them to complete no matter the outcome of the league's meeting and then take either legal action or just accept it and get on with sorting out the club.

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It is interesting - Maybe they should have played it slightly different eg.. if their lawyers felt they had a strong case keep quiet about it... sign teh deal but insist on a clause allowing an appeal say on new evidence coming to light etc? not a legal buff but surely the FL cant be seen to be leveraging the clubs survival against the right of appeal ???

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It is interesting - Maybe they should have played it slightly different eg.. if their lawyers felt they had a strong case keep quiet about it... sign teh deal but insist on a clause allowing an appeal say on new evidence coming to light etc? not a legal buff but surely the FL cant be seen to be leveraging the clubs survival against the right of appeal ???

 

Mawhinney was a tit when in Government and even more so now and yes, he would happily kill a club to save face. As for Jackson, he is a fruitcake - just ask any Bournemouth fan.

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He certainly comes across as a bumbling buffoon. Who could ever forget the cringeworthy interview in the Bournemouth AFC car park. He's had plenty of chances to get involved with both SFC and Bournemouth and failed gloriously so probably best he disappears back into the shadows pdq.

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Mawhinney was a tit when in Government and even more so now and yes, he would happily kill a club to save face. As for Jackson, he is a fruitcake - just ask any Bournemouth fan.

 

Once a politician always a politician !

 

Wonder what his expenses claims looked like when he was in Governement ? Any duck ponds we need to be aware of Dr Brian?

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With football league using teh Golden share as leavergae against the -10 point appeal' date=' having MJ state they are ready if pinnacle fails is a nightmare as this gives teh FL the get out clause - eg... Saints wont fail if we stop pinnacle because they have other potential bidders in te wings who might not insist on a right of appeal.... MJ stay away FFS , until its over one way or another... although teh damage is already done IMHO... Why the feck could you not keep quiet and out of the media....Jeez[/quote']

 

It'll be the administrator that determine's the suitability of Jackson's consortium to buy SFC rather than the Football League (said Trousers deliberately missing the actual point you were making :) )

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Two things i doubt when the Echo contacted him it was known that it was a case of the -10 and the FL. I spoke to my friend who is part of the Bournemouth takeover and he was not too impressed by MJ and was very dismissive of his ability to come up with the goods.

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Fans Online again headline reads: Jackson ready to step in after Pinnacle failure

By Rich Mann.

Basically a rehash of Echo story with a biased headline. Who is Rich Mann & why is he so pro Whacko Jacko?

 

 

A very unreliable sawce states Mr Mann is sum sort of Care in The Community fascilitator......Welfare trying to help peeps get back on their feet after being traumatised after visits to Bournemouth.

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"Rich Mann" sounds like a "Rich Man" trying to take us over :rolleyes:

 

I actually think that a MJ deal would be like trying to avoid drowning by holding your breath, but that is just my opinion.

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Two things i doubt when the Echo contacted him it was known that it was a case of the -10 and the FL. I spoke to my friend who is part of the Bournemouth takeover and he was not too impressed by MJ and was very dismissive of his ability to come up with the goods.

 

Wise words.

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I posted similar on another thread.

He was just an interesting circus side show. But the FL don't know he is a clown and his presence just undermines Pinnacles bargaining position.

The Echo should stop giving this loon the oxygen of publicity he seems to grave.

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Shall we have a sweepstake on who is Wacko-Cherrylifelongtoodlepipsaints' "international manager"?

 

My guess is:

 

mike-bassett-england-manager-1.jpg

 

 

Alternatively The Manager/Leader/President...Whatever they call themselves. of North Korea or even Iran.....Our Discipline needs sorting out first..AND the will to win. AND the ability to unsettle the opposition...AND force all the stayaways to attend St Marys again.. Winning combination...With sum dosh as well..

 

SORTED..:tfrag:

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You didn't really need to ask that question Frank, he just loves the illusion that he has some sort of celebrity status.

 

In the end It won't matter and he won't be involved. I expect the Swiss to be in there somewhere if in the unlikely event of Pinnacle not closing the deal.

 

I expect them to complete no matter the outcome of the league's meeting and then take either legal action or just accept it and get on with sorting out the club.

 

I hope they just accept it otherwise they could end up fighting the FL's 'spirit of the law' clause and with an ex-director of SFC having already fuelled the FL's case it looks somewhat foolish to be wasting time on the issue.

 

MLT has spoken of putting more into the club from a different perspective and there clearly have been some refreshings signs and equally worrying rumours. The emphasis on 'different perspective' cannot be stressed enough and the words must be turned into delivery.

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I hope they just accept it.

 

Why should they/we ? rightly or wrongly our structure offers the opportunity to go to appeal, if there is the slightest chance to recover 10 points, which there clearly is according to lawyers and with the FA trying to remove our ability to appeal, too suggests, we have case and as such should gamble, we couldn't buy points last season, here we can chuck some money at getting 10 points from the off.

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Is Marc Jackson completely unaware that he is seen as a joke figure by a lot of Saints fans, does he not understand the fact that he is not welcome here and we don't want his bid, we don't want his face plastered all over the Echo, and we don't want him affecting the (much more popular) Pinnacle bid? Doesn't he understand his continued input is unsettling and if he was to come in it would be just as detrimental as Rupert Lowe's regime. Can somebody please bloody tell him this?

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Is Marc Jackson completely unaware that he is seen as a joke figure by a lot of Saints fans, does he not understand the fact that he is not welcome here and we don't want his bid, we don't want his face plastered all over the Echo, and we don't want him affecting the (much more popular) Pinnacle bid? Doesn't he understand his continued input is unsettling and if he was to come in it would be just as detrimental as Rupert Lowe's regime. Can somebody please bloody tell him this?

 

I can see what you are saying, and completely agree we don't want him near us.

 

However, some Saints fans still give him the time of day, and massage his ego, so he won't be going anywhere!

 

To say that he may have an affect on any of the other bids is laughable to be fair, and almost as ridiculous as his assertion that people on this very website frightened off his past 'suitors' ;)

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I can see what you are saying, and completely agree we don't want him near us.

 

However, some Saints fans still give him the time of day, and massage his ego, so he won't be going anywhere!

 

To say that he may have an affect on any of the other bids is laughable to be fair, and almost as ridiculous as his assertion that people on this very website frightened off his past 'suitors' ;)

I have been assured by people he is a fantacist. Whether he is we wont know for sure unless he is asked to come up with the goods. Fry may just be using him to give others the hurry up, but if Pinnalce and the Swiss do not come forward we have to hope he is indeed the real deal.I dont think we can afford to say the fans dont want him here, beggars cannot be choosers.
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Why should they/we ? rightly or wrongly our structure offers the opportunity to go to appeal, if there is the slightest chance to recover 10 points, which there clearly is according to lawyers and with the FA trying to remove our ability to appeal, too suggests, we have case and as such should gamble, we couldn't buy points last season, here we can chuck some money at getting 10 points from the off.

 

I just don't think the cost of appeal is worth the risk in monetary terms and presumably the risk of getting hit with a bigger deduction. I am hoping Pinnacle and MLT can deliver a set up capable of quite easily overcoming a 10pt deficit than focusing efforts on an appeal that could be a waste of energy and an unhelpful distraction.

 

Also, in the wider football community it will be a far greater PR exercise if we can succeed whilst overcoming an unjust ban in our eyes as oppose to achieving success of the back of a technicality.

 

I do appreciate your argument but it's 50/50 and therefore far from being clear cut and comes down I guess to what you would like to happen this time next year. For me promotion in the face of adversity would be twice as sweet as oppose promotion won in the High Court although ultimately promotion is the absolute must.

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Is Marc Jackson completely unaware that he is seen as a joke figure by a lot of Saints fans, does he not understand the fact that he is not welcome here and we don't want his bid, we don't want his face plastered all over the Echo, and we don't want him affecting the (much more popular) Pinnacle bid? Doesn't he understand his continued input is unsettling and if he was to come in it would be just as detrimental as Rupert Lowe's regime. Can somebody please bloody tell him this?

 

The bloke is so completely nuts that I genuinely feel he could unite the fanbase into a "Bring Back Lowe" campaign.

 

For that even to be contemplatable shows just how bad he is.

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I can see what you are saying, and completely agree we don't want him near us.

 

However, some Saints fans still give him the time of day, and massage his ego, so he won't be going anywhere!

 

To say that he may have an affect on any of the other bids is laughable to be fair, and almost as ridiculous as his assertion that people on this very website frightened off his past 'suitors' ;)

 

When he comes out and says he is ready to step in when Pinnacle 'fails' even though, even as it is at the moment, Pinnacle aren't close to really 'failing' may have an affect. Matt Le Tissier is still proper confident of the deal going through, so these words spoken by MJ are surely only spoken to unsettle, as he is losing his grip on yet another attempted takeover. That is my opinion anyway.

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I just don't think the cost of appeal is worth the risk in monetary terms and presumably the risk of getting hit with a bigger deduction. I am hoping Pinnacle and MLT can deliver a set up capable of quite easily overcoming a 10pt deficit than focusing efforts on an appeal that could be a waste of energy and an unhelpful distraction.

 

Also, in the wider football community it will be a far greater PR exercise if we can succeed whilst overcoming an unjust ban in our eyes as oppose to achieving success of the back of a technicality.

 

I do appreciate your argument but it's 50/50 and therefore far from being clear cut and comes down I guess to what you would like to happen this time next year. For me promotion in the face of adversity would be twice as sweet as oppose promotion won in the High Court although ultimately promotion is the absolute must.

 

Well said Sir ( Or Madam as the case may be) !

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With football league using teh Golden share as leavergae against the -10 point appeal' date=' having MJ state they are ready if pinnacle fails is a nightmare as this gives teh FL the get out clause - eg... Saints wont fail if we stop pinnacle because they have other potential bidders in te wings who might not insist on a right of appeal.... MJ stay away FFS , until its over one way or another... although teh damage is already done IMHO... Why the feck could you not keep quiet and out of the media....Jeez[/quote']

 

Agreed. He purported to support and care about Saints yet very strong rumours are circulating re: Jackson stirring up the football league regarding the points deduction and jabbing the proverbial hornet's nest at an extremely sensitive time. F*ckin intensely irritating, unprofessional, no hoper, illiterate t*sser! GO DO ONE and S.T.F.U. if you know what's good for you!

 

We need Pinnacle to complete and succeed...NOW! One word...EGO! Just like our predecessors. All mouth and no sense.

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Does he have connections to saints? As in the Pink Jacko said the manager had connections with saints (I presume an ex player) and Peter Reid is the only one I can think of.

 

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/4451357.Pearson_not_interested_in_Saints_return/

 

The Echo believes it to be Peter Reid too. League 1 or the international footballing great that is Thailand - a tough choice for Reidy.

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I have been assured by people he is a fantacist. Whether he is we wont know for sure unless he is asked to come up with the goods. Fry may just be using him to give others the hurry up, but if Pinnalce and the Swiss do not come forward we have to hope he is indeed the real deal.I dont think we can afford to say the fans dont want him here, beggars cannot be choosers.

 

Hang on!

 

He was asked to come up with the money at Bournemouth and he didn't....

 

Make of that what you will, but I'm in the 'he's a fantacist' corner ;)

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Hang on!

 

He was asked to come up with the money at Bournemouth and he didn't....

 

Make of that what you will, but I'm in the 'he's a fantacist' corner ;)

will you say the same of MLT/TL if they fail? If MLT was not fronting Pinnalce (and I have every faith in him) I suggest that bid would be looking a bit odd. It is the first takeover that i can recall where nobody knew who was behind it.If it was Pompey we'd be saying 'dodgy', it is the fact that MLT is there than has made us feel more secure of it.

MJ is almost certainly all talk but as i say if the other bids fail we have to hope he has got it right this time.

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will you say the same of MLT/TL if they fail? If MLT was not fronting Pinnalce (and I have every faith in him) I suggest that bid would be looking a bit odd. It is the first takeover that i can recall where nobody knew who was behind it.If it was Pompey we'd be saying 'dodgy', it is the fact that MLT is there than has made us feel more secure of it.

MJ is almost certainly all talk but as i say if the other bids fail we have to hope he has got it right this time.

 

You make a fair point. I do trust Matt Le Tissier completely though as i'm sure everyone else does. He has earnt our trust.

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will you say the same of MLT/TL if they fail? If MLT was not fronting Pinnalce (and I have every faith in him) I suggest that bid would be looking a bit odd. It is the first takeover that i can recall where nobody knew who was behind it.If it was Pompey we'd be saying 'dodgy', it is the fact that MLT is there than has made us feel more secure of it.

MJ is almost certainly all talk but as i say if the other bids fail we have to hope he has got it right this time.

 

Sorry but teh point of this thread was to question why MJ was publically announcing his 'saviour bid' again now, when the pinnacle bid is in teh balance - it cant help with the clubs batgaining position. Thus it smacks of self interest rather than his saintly whispers of 'doing it fro the club' so he should keep stum until pinnacle is finished with their work IMHO..

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Sorry but teh point of this thread was to question why MJ was publically announcing his 'saviour bid' again now' date=' when the pinnacle bid is in teh balance - it cant help with the clubs batgaining position. Thus it smacks of self interest rather than his saintly whispers of 'doing it fro the club' so he should keep stum until pinnacle is finished with their work IMHO..[/quote']

 

Accurate and to the point Frank. One of your better posts.;)

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Sorry but teh point of this thread was to question why MJ was publically announcing his 'saviour bid' again now' date=' when the pinnacle bid is in teh balance - it cant help with the clubs batgaining position. Thus it smacks of self interest rather than his saintly whispers of 'doing it fro the club' so he should keep stum until pinnacle is finished with their work IMHO..[/quote'] but if Mj was asked the question 'are you still there if Pinnalce fails?' and he said yes we are ready to go, why is that wrong and seen as trying to derail Pinnacle. To be fair his group had their offer in before and nobody worried they had been gazumped. if the boot had been on the other foot it would get the green light(forget your views on MJ but look at it fairly) MJ is the butt of all the riticism and whilst he may well be all talk nobody has yet come back and given a fair assessment how much it would have cost just to get to the position where he able to submit the bids to MF. Fry would have kicked him into touch if the offer looked to have been worked out on the back of a fag packet.I just wish for it to be a fair debate, not just a witchhunt. Pinnacle I really wish to win but i dont want to see others cut to pieces when they look as thoguh they want to help.
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but if Mj was asked the question 'are you still there if Pinnalce fails?' and he said yes we are ready to go, why is that wrong and seen as trying to derail Pinnacle. To be fair his group had their offer in before and nobody worried they had been gazumped. if the boot had been on the other foot it would get the green light(forget your views on MJ but look at it fairly) MJ is the butt of all the riticism and whilst he may well be all talk nobody has yet come back and given a fair assessment how much it would have cost just to get to the position where he able to submit the bids to MF. Fry would have kicked him into touch if the offer looked to have been worked out on the back of a fag packet.I just wish for it to be a fair debate, not just a witchhunt. Pinnacle I really wish to win but i dont want to see others cut to pieces when they look as thoguh they want to help.

 

Sorry but all they need to say is 'no comment' - or its in the best interests of teh club to let Pinnacle resolve what they need to do..,. end of...

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but if Mj was asked the question 'are you still there if Pinnalce fails?' and he said yes we are ready to go, why is that wrong and seen as trying to derail Pinnacle. To be fair his group had their offer in before and nobody worried they had been gazumped. if the boot had been on the other foot it would get the green light(forget your views on MJ but look at it fairly) MJ is the butt of all the riticism and whilst he may well be all talk nobody has yet come back and given a fair assessment how much it would have cost just to get to the position where he able to submit the bids to MF. Fry would have kicked him into touch if the offer looked to have been worked out on the back of a fag packet.I just wish for it to be a fair debate, not just a witchhunt. Pinnacle I really wish to win but i dont want to see others cut to pieces when they look as thoguh they want to help.

 

But surely Nick, the whole reason why we're not happy with MJ is because as a 'front man' - he has form of not delivering?

 

He's no more believable as a front man than I would be...in fact, I know I could do the job better...media training and all ;-)

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But surely Nick, the whole reason why we're not happy with MJ is because as a 'front man' - he has form of not delivering?

 

He's no more believable as a front man than I would be...in fact, I know I could do the job better...media training and all ;-)

 

Indeed. f you read Tony Lynam's posts the thing that strikes you is the bull shiedt free - common sense communications, no promises, no fan friendly rhetoric which we have all heard before - if pinnacle are unable to conclude for whatever reason, i hope teh swiss come back...

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But surely Nick, the whole reason why we're not happy with MJ is because as a 'front man' - he has form of not delivering?

 

He's no more believable as a front man than I would be...in fact, I know I could do the job better...media training and all ;-)

I take that all on board.I still wonder that to get to where he is in a bid would not cost him personally less than a 5 figure sum.That is alot of money to just serve his ego. As for saying no comment, I expect when he was asked he was unaware of the FL problem for Pinnacle and so the quote was taken hours/day before it became a political issue.

My friend I know from his previous deal, is not impressed by him as he strung them along for a couple of months.Why the money did not appear only MJ really knows, was he let down or was it all in his mind?? I know what most feel the answer to that is

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I've never met TL, but you sense that with his posts he feels what we are going through.

 

I had a PM once from MJ after I wished him all the best about AFCB, won't go into the detail of that (nothing silacious in it anyway) but his view was that he would be a SFC fan first of all.

 

But, with the Echo interview over the weekend, I've come to the conclusion that if he did have our best interests at heart he would have kept schtum...

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Indeed. f you read Tony Lynam's posts the thing that strikes you is the bull shiedt free - common sense communications' date=' no promises, no fan friendly rhetoric which we have all heard before - if pinnacle are unable to conclude for whatever reason, i hope teh swiss come back...[/quote']again not wishing to look anti but MW did all those PR things, it is clever and very much appreciated.
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