Fitzhugh Fella Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 I hate to say this but I feel now is the right time for the mystery money man to be introduced. There can be little gained from remaining anonymous now surely. The time for cloak and dagger games are passed. People's employment and the fan's dreams are laid bare tonight. If Pinnacle are to be taken seriously let's have some actual proof of genuine intent with a name of the new owner. Is that not too much to ask? Why so shy? The FL have put the ball firmly back in Pinnacle's court and Fry is inviting others to step forward so now now is not the time to be coy. Tony, you have had more than 3 weeks - if you are serious and your client is committed please show us with actions - employees and fans need some meat on the bone by the close of play tomorrow, otherwise your credibility will, after that, quickly recede with every passing day. Appreciate all you have done and applaud your PR etc etc (and we all love MLT) but we are fast approaching the crossroads of trust. No offence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 If the money man wishes to remain annonymous I doubt Tony has any real sway behind it. Yes, he could give him away and ruin their working relationship before it even begins or we can just wait for this mystery man to make himself known. It's all very 'Dream Team' isn't it..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 I hate to say this but I feel now is the right time for the mystery money man to be introduced. There can be little gained from remaining anonymous now surely. The time for cloak and dagger games are passed. People's employment and the fan's dreams are laid bare tonight. If Pinnacle are to be taken seriously let's have some actual proof of genuine intent with a name of the new owner. Is that not too much to ask? Why so shy? The FL have put the ball firmly back in Pinnacle's court and Fry is inviting others to step forward so now now is not the time to be coy. Tony, you have had more than 3 weeks - if you are serious and your client is committed please show us with actions - employees and fans need some meat on the bone by the close of play tomorrow, otherwise your credibility will, after that, quickly recede with every passing day. Appreciate all you have done and applaud your PR etc etc (and we all love MLT) but we are fast approaching the crossroads of trust. No offence! I'm sure the relevant people who actually have influence on proceedings - namely Mr Fry - are well aware of the person who is behind the bid, and can choose to take said person seriously or not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 We'll know who it is/who it was within the next 48 hours anyway (well tbf probably 24 hours) So let's just hold tight a little bit longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints Pedro Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 I hate to say this but I feel now is the right time for the mystery money man to be introduced. There can be little gained from remaining anonymous now surely. The time for cloak and dagger games are passed. People's employment and the fan's dreams are laid bare tonight. If Pinnacle are to be taken seriously let's have some actual proof of genuine intent with a name of the new owner. Is that not too much to ask? Why so shy? The FL have put the ball firmly back in Pinnacle's court and Fry is inviting others to step forward so now now is not the time to be coy. Tony, you have had more than 3 weeks - if you are serious and your client is committed please show us with actions - employees and fans need some meat on the bone by the close of play tomorrow, otherwise your credibility will, after that, quickly recede with every passing day. Appreciate all you have done and applaud your PR etc etc (and we all love MLT) but we are fast approaching the crossroads of trust. No offence! Nice phrase or might it be the 'boulevard of broken dreams' ? I hope not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 I have no intention of coming forward just yet thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey-deacons-left-nut Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 I bet its Crouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 Maybe I'm the only one who finds it a bit ironic that the OP is calling for such transparency considering the now infamous meetings with Wilde, and the secrecy behind them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 Patience FF. You won't be disapointed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 I think people are being a little too cynical here. I understand the reasons why one may wish to remain anonymous, so lets just be patient. I'm sure we will know by the end of play tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so22saint Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 I bet it's Marc Jackson :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 I had a really odd dream the other night that the buyer was Gary Glitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yate Saint Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 I had a really odd dream the other night that the buyer was Gary Glitter Oh dear. Maybe that's why the FL are playing hard ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 I had a really odd dream the other night that the buyer was Gary Glitter Can't be him. He's on holiday in Florida at the moment... ... gone to Tampa with the kids! :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St David Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 My best bet is Chris Evans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evo Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 I've agreed with pretty much everything FF has said of late. The jar of unquestioning faith is slowly emptying. I know I certainly had concerns before GMs rant, probably for differing reasons. It's the cynic in me I admit, but I can't help thinking fool me once shame on you, fool me 4,512 times shame on me I had a really odd dream the other night that the buyer was Gary Glitter No, he's interested in the Inter Under-11s. I should be banned for saying that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 My best bet is Chris Evans. not seen you for a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 We'll know who it is/who it was within the next 48 hours anyway (well tbf probably 24 hours) So let's just hold tight a little bit longer. I can't sit tight much longer. It's turtle head time - things need sorting fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 has anybody given a reason why he wants to remain anon? tbh it doesnt really matter who he/she is all the while that pinnacle dont commit to buy.it could be the richest man in the world but if they are not going to play ball with the league it wont help us in anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenwilkins Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 I agree with you completely FF. If Pinnacle want our support, it's about time we knew who we were supporting. I can't see any reason for secrecy as regards the identity of the backer at this late stage. All it is doing is sowing seeds of doubt (in my mind anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 At this late stage, it does smack a of lack of confidence as to whether this will get done. If TL is as confident as he seems, then let's know who the money man is because it'll all be sorted soon n'est pas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 I hate to say this but I feel now is the right time for the mystery money man to be introduced. There can be little gained from remaining anonymous now surely. The time for cloak and dagger games are passed. People's employment and the fan's dreams are laid bare tonight. If Pinnacle are to be taken seriously let's have some actual proof of genuine intent with a name of the new owner. Is that not too much to ask? Why so shy? The FL have put the ball firmly back in Pinnacle's court and Fry is inviting others to step forward so now now is not the time to be coy. Tony, you have had more than 3 weeks - if you are serious and your client is committed please show us with actions - employees and fans need some meat on the bone by the close of play tomorrow, otherwise your credibility will, after that, quickly recede with every passing day. Appreciate all you have done and applaud your PR etc etc (and we all love MLT) but we are fast approaching the crossroads of trust. No offence! If Fry is prepared to stick with them, or at least issue a supportive statement such as today's, despite being under no obligation to do so that's good enough for me. I don't see why revealing the identity now would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 If Marc Jackson sorts himself out tomorrow it could all be academic!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 22 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 22 June, 2009 If Marc Jackson sorts himself out tomorrow it could all be academic!!!! MJ could not sort himself out of a paper bag - just ask Nick H who has found out the real truth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintstr1 Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 I have a funny feeling that his name is still being kept quite because Pinnacle are not sure now that it is going to happen. Personally I would have thought after today TL would have wanted it Signed & Sealed this evening. Fry has already said that he has had a couple of more NEW interested parties today beside the Swiss. I really believe time is just about up for Pinnacle , Pity because it looked promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 Hi Duncan, As much as we are all vv frustrated, I don't see how "outing" the money man would achieve anything. TL has already stated they are going to introduce the new owner when they complete - let's just hope they can get on with it tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 Did'nt pinnacle have to sign a confidentiality agreement at the request of the buyer? If that is the case it would be very foolish of pinnacle to disclose whom the buyer is as it would put the whole deal in jeopardy. I find it a little strange that the buyer wants to be unknown at present which seems to add to the growing negative feelings regarding the pinnacle deal, but just maybe there is a really valid reason behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 I hate to say this but I feel now is the right time for the mystery money man to be introduced. There can be little gained from remaining anonymous now surely. The time for cloak and dagger games are passed. People's employment and the fan's dreams are laid bare tonight. If Pinnacle are to be taken seriously let's have some actual proof of genuine intent with a name of the new owner. Is that not too much to ask? Why so shy? The FL have put the ball firmly back in Pinnacle's court and Fry is inviting others to step forward so now now is not the time to be coy. Tony, you have had more than 3 weeks - if you are serious and your client is committed please show us with actions - employees and fans need some meat on the bone by the close of play tomorrow, otherwise your credibility will, after that, quickly recede with every passing day. Appreciate all you have done and applaud your PR etc etc (and we all love MLT) but we are fast approaching the crossroads of trust. No offence! I really fail to see what good it would do right now, other than satisfy curiousity. There is no issue with the man behind the deal as far as we can tell, the financials are clearly not an issue. By outing himself, he (or she I guess) simply opens himself up to all sorts of other issues, including impacts on any other business interests. I seriously doubt that we will learn any more until the deal is done, or not as the case may be. Only then will Gavin Davies/Rod Stewart/Paul Allen/Phil Collins/Andrew Lloyd Webber/Richard Branson/Max Mosely/Manfred Mann/Leon Crouch/Peter Crouch/Uncle Tom Cobley or whoever be named. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 I would like to know who the money man is, but it is not the end of the world that I don't. What I would like to hear though is that Pinnacle have completed the takeover. If it is going to happen, then I guess that tomorrow would have to be the day. *crosses fingers and tapes them in position before going to bed* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 tbh i cannot believe that the press/media havnt sniffed him out already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 If Fry is prepared to stick with them, or at least issue a supportive statement such as today's, despite being under no obligation to do so that's good enough for me. I don't see why revealing the identity now would help. ...In the meantime' date=' the exclusivity period has expired and the Administrators have reopened discussions with other parties. [/quote'] I'm not sure that this sounds too supportive to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenwilkins Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 If Fry is prepared to stick with them, or at least issue a supportive statement such as today's, despite being under no obligation to do so that's good enough for me. I don't see why revealing the identity now would help. But is Fry happy to stick with them? In the meantime, the exclusivity period has expired and the Administrators have reopened discussions with other parties. Isn't the above Administrator talk for "pull your finger out and stop fecking around. We all knew the FL were never going to give up on the points deduction anyway"? Revealing the identity of the backer would show that the group are acting in a transparent way and would help to endear them to the people they need to rush out and buy Season Tickets in the next few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 I'm not sure that this sounds too supportive to be honest. But is Fry happy to stick with them? Isn't the above Administrator talk for "pull your finger out and stop fecking around. We all knew the FL were never going to give up on the points deduction anyway"? Revealing the identity of the backer would show that the group are acting in a transparent way and would help to endear them to the people they need to rush out and buy Season Tickets in the next few weeks. I know what you mean, but he's doing that in the event Pinnacle can't complete. He has to assume that's a potential reality. Anything could happen and the exclusivity period has finished. His statement mentioned the "abuse of power" by the FL. Strong language and no need for it whatsoever if he didn't still believe Pinnacle were viable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenwilkins Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 His statement mentioned the "abuse of power" by the FL. Strong language and no need for it whatsoever if he didn't still believe Pinnacle were viable. Except for his personal pride and professional reputation as a rough and tough loose tie administrator bully boy (allegedly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 22 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 22 June, 2009 Hi Duncan, As much as we are all vv frustrated, I don't see how "outing" the money man would achieve anything. TL has already stated they are going to introduce the new owner when they complete - let's just hope they can get on with it tomorrow. Accept your point 100% but what is the point of the money man remaining anonymous any longer. Is he hiding something or is he ashamed of something? If he wants to build a relationship with the fans (and I accept he doesn't have to because he is now the billy ******** owner) then perhaps now would be the ideal time to step out of the closet. (that is a figurative expression) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 I know what you mean, but he's doing that in the event Pinnacle can't complete. He has to assume that's a potential reality. Anything could happen and the exclusivity period has finished. His statement mentioned the "abuse of power" by the FL. Strong language and no need for it whatsoever if he didn't still believe Pinnacle were viable. Gotcha and I take your point, but a cynic would say that he might just be trying to keep other interested parties "interested". Presumably he is looking to enter into another exclusivity period and presumably that could be with someone other than Pinnacle. To be honest I would have been more placated if Fry had issued a statement saying that despite the exclusivity period expiring he was extending it for a couple of days as an act of good will because it was clear to him that this transaction was going to complete. I really hope for some good news tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 22 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 22 June, 2009 I really fail to see what good it would do right now, other than satisfy curiousity. There is no issue with the man behind the deal as far as we can tell, the financials are clearly not an issue. By outing himself, he (or she I guess) simply opens himself up to all sorts of other issues, including impacts on any other business interests. I seriously doubt that we will learn any more until the deal is done, or not as the case may be. Only then will Gavin Davies/Rod Stewart/Paul Allen/Phil Collins/Andrew Lloyd Webber/Richard Branson/Max Mosely/Manfred Mann/Leon Crouch/Peter Crouch/Uncle Tom Cobley or whoever be named. Accepted but it might just give you a clue as to whether you might throw your support behind them or not. IE Max Mosley - No Uncle Tom Cobley - perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Farmer Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 Accepted but it might just give you a clue as to whether you might throw your support behind them or not. IE Max Mosley - No Uncle Tom Cobley - perhaps. I think we have 500,000 reasons to back the individual in question and allow him to orchestrate negotiations as he sees fit TBH. Putting a name in print before he wishes it to be made public will not achieve anything with regards the eventual outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 A.D? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 Accept your point 100% but what is the point of the money man remaining anonymous any longer. Is he hiding something or is he ashamed of something? Now you're being silly;) I'm sure they have very sound commercial reasons for staying anonymous at this time. It's been a frustrating 3-4 days but I'm still extremely positive that we will all be celebrating some good news soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 I hate to say this but I feel now is the right time for the mystery money man to be introduced. There can be little gained from remaining anonymous now surely. The time for cloak and dagger games are passed. People's employment and the fan's dreams are laid bare tonight. If Pinnacle are to be taken seriously let's have some actual proof of genuine intent with a name of the new owner. Is that not too much to ask? Why so shy? The FL have put the ball firmly back in Pinnacle's court and Fry is inviting others to step forward so now now is not the time to be coy. Tony, you have had more than 3 weeks - if you are serious and your client is committed please show us with actions - employees and fans need some meat on the bone by the close of play tomorrow, otherwise your credibility will, after that, quickly recede with every passing day. Appreciate all you have done and applaud your PR etc etc (and we all love MLT) but we are fast approaching the crossroads of trust. No offence! Sad so sad.......you are/were one of the few posters on here, that I had any respect for. Now it appears you have gone over to the dark side, and believe that you have a divine right to answers. This forum is a small representation of the fanbase, yet some on here think they run the club.......don't join them Duncan, retain your self respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 I think we have 500,000 reasons to back the individual in question and allow him to orchestrate negotiations as he sees fit TBH. Putting a name in print before he wishes it to be made public will not achieve anything with regards the eventual outcome.Agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Nice Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 I am all for non disclosure if it means we get what we want and they don't have to pay more because he has a healthy bank balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 I am all for non disclosure if it means we get what we want and they don't have to pay more because he has a healthy bank balance.Nail on head! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 I am all for non disclosure if it means we get what we want and they don't have to pay more because he has a healthy bank balance. F*cking hell. I don't think the backer is anonymous to Mark Fry! How does he pay more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 I am all for non disclosure if it means we get what we want and they don't have to pay more because he has a healthy bank balance. F*cking hell. I don't think the backer is anonymous to Mark Fry! How does he pay more? It could simply be he doesn't want to be bombarded with phonecalls begging him to buy us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 he owes us nothing. If he brings us some investment, MLT and decent management we all will be behind him 100%. Its just your curiosity! If it completes in matters not he remained quiet, if it doesn't he is history anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellow&blue Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 I'm prepared to wait for this mystery - I just want the whole farcical episode over and done with - why can't this club ever be normal? On a lighter note, maybe it's Michael Schumacher who was also supposedly "outed" as The Stig on Top Gear the other night................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 Tbh, the mystery owner could leave his anonymity completely intact forever and it would hardly matter a jot. All this new thread this and new thread that; post and counterpost from members of this forum just prove that they can't sit still for 5 minutes. Just rip out your broadband connection and bugger off until it's all sorted. You'll probably feel all the better for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 I hate to say this but I feel now is the right time for the mystery money man to be introduced. There can be little gained from remaining anonymous now surely. The time for cloak and dagger games are passed. People's employment and the fan's dreams are laid bare tonight. If Pinnacle are to be taken seriously let's have some actual proof of genuine intent with a name of the new owner. Is that not too much to ask? Why so shy? The FL have put the ball firmly back in Pinnacle's court and Fry is inviting others to step forward so now now is not the time to be coy. Tony, you have had more than 3 weeks - if you are serious and your client is committed please show us with actions - employees and fans need some meat on the bone by the close of play tomorrow, otherwise your credibility will, after that, quickly recede with every passing day. Appreciate all you have done and applaud your PR etc etc (and we all love MLT) but we are fast approaching the crossroads of trust. No offence! Why do you think the time is right? Who are you to decide? Let the man do what he wants to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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