Weston Super Saint Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 And 3 of those are goalkeepers Source : printed copy of Echo today. So, takeover or not, a couple of injuries in the first few matches and we really will be playing the kids from the academy :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 That's actually the sort of squad size we should have had for the past few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 And 3 of those are goalkeepers Source : printed copy of Echo today. So, takeover or not, a couple of injuries in the first few matches and we really will be playing the kids from the academy :shock: Especially with the new rule of 7 subs on the bench (which is patently ridiculous and means even more players not getting a game each week). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 Seem to remember Leeds having to completely overhaul their squad when they first went League One. Can't say this news particularly surprises me. That and we need to remember the roles that loan players play these days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocco boxo Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 so we cannot even have a match amongst ourselves!! FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 Ive been saying about this for a while. I got the idea that the takeover (if it ever happenes) will take so long that we will lose players as they have to sort there future out and we will sell some to get some cash in, leaving us with barer bones than last season. no doubt if it all goes on for another 2 weeks we will lose more players and get to the point where it will be a struggle to put out a team with more than a couple of professional games between them. It doesnt look good for next season at all IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 I can see the Forum stars being called up..Phil as Manager and of course nick as tea boy and sponge bob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 Wolves barely had a starting XI a couple of years ago, when Mick McCarthy took over. Look at them now!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 And 3 of those are goalkeepers Source : printed copy of Echo today. So, takeover or not, a couple of injuries in the first few matches and we really will be playing the kids from the academy :shock: If you look at the 21, that includes a few of the academy already who happen to have squad numbers : Gobern for instance. Fortunately at the moment we have players who are at least worth a look in League One. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 Especially with the new rule of 7 subs on the bench (which is patently ridiculous and means even more players not getting a game each week). How can it mean more players arnt getting a game? You can still only bring on 3 subs and by having more on the bench you can bring in a few of the (ehem) youth and if the game has gone well for us, give them 10 mins at the end to build up a little experience in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 Wolves barely had a starting XI a couple of years ago, when Mick McCarthy took over. Look at them now!! Oh! to have Vokes, Craddock and that young star Surman playing for the mighty Saints.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 How can it mean more players arnt getting a game? You can still only bring on 3 subs and by having more on the bench you can bring in a few of the (ehem) youth and if the game has gone well for us, give them 10 mins at the end to build up a little experience in the league. I suspect it means that 2 more players won't be playing for the reserves, which really is neither here nor there. Plus we don't HAVE to put 7 on the bench, do we? Neil Warnock will be happy though, he can dispense with his stupid practise of not having a keeper now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 If you look at the 21, that includes a few of the academy already who happen to have squad numbers : Gobern for instance. Fortunately at the moment we have players who are at least worth a look in League One. Who else can we expect to lose though? Will we be paying Thomas CCC wages to sit in the treatment room all season again? Will BWP and Mule still be there? Gillet could still attract a fee so could be another to be off. Saga and Ras are still on the books but I dont think we honestly think they will still be here. Ive not seen the printed list but I wonder how many of the names on it will realistically be with us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 I suspect it means that 2 more players won't be playing for the reserves, which really is neither here nor there. Reserves don't usually play on Saturdays any more though do they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 I suspect it means that 2 more players won't be playing for the reserves, which really is neither here nor there. Plus we don't HAVE to put 7 on the bench, do we? Neil Warnock will be happy though, he can dispense with his stupid practise of not having a keeper now. I think we have had plenty of players playing for the reserves one night and then on the bench the next day for the 1st team. Odds on they will only get 15 mins or so at the end so it shouldnt be too difficult for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 Who are these 21 anyway ? From the HCDAJFU thread, courtesy of Over Land and Sea : Those still in contract but likely to be leaving (contract expiry in brackets) 4 Marek Saganowski (2010). Keen to leave – perhaps back to Poland 43 Lee Molyneux (2011). Looking for new club - currently on trial in Holland Still contracted (contract expiring date in brackets) 2 Chris Perry (2010). 3 Wayne Thomas (2010). 9 Grzegorz Rasiak (2010). Questionable whether anyone will meet his terms 10 Paul Wotton (2011). 12 Lee Holmes (2011) 13 Tommy Forecast (2013) 19 Morgan Schneiderlin (2013). Fulham rumoured to be interested 20 Adam Lallana (2011). Several clubs rumoured to be interested 22 Simon Gillett (2010). 24 Oliver Lancashire (2010). 25 Michael Poke (2010). 26 Jake Thomson (has agreed new deal - length unknown) 28 Bartosz Białkowski (2012). Given Davis's departure, may now stay 30 Jack Boyle (has agreed new deal - length unknown) 32 Andrej Pernecký (2010). 3rd year academy 2009-10 35 Matthew Paterson (has agreed new deal - length unknown) 37 Oscar Gobern (2011). 3rd year academy 2009-10 38 Jack Saville (unknown). Turns pro for start of new season 40 Anthony Pulis (2010). Recovering from a broken foot. 42 Kayne McLaggon (2010). Ruptured Achilles – out until September 44 Ben Reeves (2011). 2nd year academy 45 Callum McNish (2011). 2nd year academy n/a Ryan Doble (2011). 3rd year academy 2009-10 2nd year academy 2009-10 Aarran Racine (2010) Tom Dunford (2011) Sam Argent (2011) Daryl McLean Ryan Tafazolli Ciaran Harper Garyn Preen Jordan Keegan Tony Garrod 1st year academy 2009-10 Bobby Scott - rumour on this site that Aston Villa have snapped him up Lloyd Foot Jack Dovey Sam Hoskins Lloyd Isgrove Ben Martin Lee Nicholas Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain Andy Robinson Jordace Spooner List of those out of contract or who have left 1 Kelvin Davis - now out of contract, set for West Ham 5 Jan Paul Saeijs - loan expired 6 Michael Svensson - retired 7 Rudi Skacel - released, out of contract 8 Bradley Wright-Phillips - now out of contract 11 Andrew Surman - sold to Wolves for £1.2m, rising to £2m based on appearances 14 Stern John - released, now out of contract 15 Jason Euell - now out of contract 16 Romain Gasmi - loan was not made permanent 17 David McGoldrick - signed by Nottingham Forest for undisclosed fee 18 Nathan Dyer - sold to Swansea for £400,000 21 Jamie Hatch - released, now out of contract 27 Kyle Davies - sold to Real Salt Lake towards end of season 29 Jeffrey Imudia - released, now out of contract 36 Michael Byrne - now out of contract. Was on loan at Bognor Regis Town last season. Not added back to squad list on OS. 39 Ryan Smith - released, out of contract 41 Zoltan Liptack - loan terminated early - returned to Hungary Michal Dolinajec - released, now out of contract Lukas Stiklakis - released, now out of contract Liam Hogan - released, now out of contract Others now out of contract - no news on new contract 23 Lloyd James 33 Joseph Mills - offered 2 year deal 34 Jamie White - recovering from long-term injury (ankle/fibula) There are 23 in that first squad list even excluding Saga and Molyneux... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over land and sea Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 If you look at the 21, that includes a few of the academy already who happen to have squad numbers : Gobern for instance. If they include academy players with squad numbers we have more than 21 players - so I don't think the Echo are right. Does it provide a list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 2 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 2 July, 2009 The good news is, of those 21 players, with the right manager we could be quite competitive in League 1. The bad news, sadly, is we don't have the right manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 How can it mean more players arnt getting a game? You can still only bring on 3 subs and by having more on the bench you can bring in a few of the (ehem) youth and if the game has gone well for us, give them 10 mins at the end to build up a little experience in the league. Because instead of 2 people sitting on the bench doing nothing there will be 4. Simple really. Sitting on a bench is not the same thing as getting a game. Totally stupid rule which requires smaller clubs to inflate their playing squad for no good reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 2 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 2 July, 2009 If they include academy players with squad numbers we have more than 21 players - so I don't think the Echo are right. Does it provide a list? Yes, but not on the website, only in paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 If they include academy players with squad numbers we have more than 21 players - so I don't think the Echo are right. Does it provide a list? Dunno, I haven't bought it (sorry Dan) - you're the authority at the moment ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 2 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 2 July, 2009 Yes, but not on the website, only in paper. Dunno, I haven't bought it (sorry Dan) - you're the authority at the moment ! I'm sure they'll reproduce it on their website in a few minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 Because instead of 2 people sitting on the bench doing nothing there will be 4. Simple really. Sitting on a bench is not the same thing as getting a game. Totally stupid rule which requires smaller clubs to inflate their playing squad for no good reason. None of that is true though. You can only have 11 on the pitch at one time, so it doesn't matter how many are on the bench - as the ones who aren't playing reserve games in order to sit on the bench aren't getting that level of experience anyway. Plus if teams are really having a problem with it, just name 3 subs, that's allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 I'm sure they'll reproduce it on their website in a few minutes They usually do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 Reserves don't usually play on Saturdays any more though do they? Not usually, no, probably due to needing to sit on the bench. We tend to have academy matches on a Saturday morning though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ribbo Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 Bobby Scott - rumour on this site that Aston Villa have snapped him up.. he turned it down from what i heard, 1,300 or 3,100 a week or something like that, he'd get more of a chance here easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 Because instead of 2 people sitting on the bench doing nothing there will be 4. Simple really. Sitting on a bench is not the same thing as getting a game. Totally stupid rule which requires smaller clubs to inflate their playing squad for no good reason. but before those extra players that are not getting a game now were not getting a game before. only with a space on the bench they now have the chance to get 10 to 15 mins experience under there belt. How is that a bad thing? Are there squads that only have the 1st 11 plus 5 subs that will now have to go out and buy a couple more players to fill the bench? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 Not usually, no, probably due to needing to sit on the bench. We tend to have academy matches on a Saturday morning though. Well that buggers our 1st team up let alone the bench! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 Whoever plays let us pray the Sky jinx is now over as Millwall game live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy_Saint Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 I'll just be happy if we get to the point where we are able to play Millwall at all!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 Because instead of 2 people sitting on the bench doing nothing there will be 4. Simple really. Sitting on a bench is not the same thing as getting a game. Totally stupid rule which requires smaller clubs to inflate their playing squad for no good reason. Do you HAVE to name seven subs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over land and sea Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/4469856.Experience_thin_on_the_ground_again_for_Saints/ It's 21 players with first team experience. So it excludes Pulis, Boyle, McNish, Reeves, Saville Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 Do you HAVE to name seven subs? He went quiet after my point too lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanimal Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 Assuming GR and MS will both leave, we have no height muscle or experience up front; Defence could actually be OK and midfield pretty useful, but after that....uh oh!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 I'm certainly not worried about the numbers, there will be no problem getting a side out. The loan system means you only need half a squad these days anyway and there is no point getting loans in until much closer to the season starting. What I am concerned about is the quality in the side. We lack a decent spine - downgrading the keeper, having the same problem with Perrys lack of height and pace at the back, no real pace or guile in the middle and the lack of pace up front. We also have very poor wide players and if we manage to offload the drain to funds that is Rasiak, then I don't see goals either. At this point though just putting a team out each week would be good enough for me. I'll upgrade my hopes when a new owner signs on the dotted line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 That'll be 21 of the players from last season then. Get rid of about another 17 and start again and we'll be fine. Can't shed any tears about most of last seasons dross leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Saint Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 Who are these 21 anyway ? From the HCDAJFU thread, courtesy of Over Land and Sea : Those still in contract but likely to be leaving (contract expiry in brackets) 4 Marek Saganowski (2010). Keen to leave – perhaps back to Poland 43 Lee Molyneux (2011). Looking for new club - currently on trial in Holland Still contracted (contract expiring date in brackets) 2 Chris Perry (2010). 3 Wayne Thomas (2010). 9 Grzegorz Rasiak (2010). Questionable whether anyone will meet his terms 10 Paul Wotton (2011). 12 Lee Holmes (2011) 13 Tommy Forecast (2013) 19 Morgan Schneiderlin (2013). Fulham rumoured to be interested 20 Adam Lallana (2011). Several clubs rumoured to be interested 22 Simon Gillett (2010). 24 Oliver Lancashire (2010). 25 Michael Poke (2010). 26 Jake Thomson (has agreed new deal - length unknown) 28 Bartosz Białkowski (2012). Given Davis's departure, may now stay 30 Jack Boyle (has agreed new deal - length unknown) 32 Andrej Pernecký (2010). 3rd year academy 2009-10 35 Matthew Paterson (has agreed new deal - length unknown) 37 Oscar Gobern (2011). 3rd year academy 2009-10 38 Jack Saville (unknown). Turns pro for start of new season 40 Anthony Pulis (2010). Recovering from a broken foot. 42 Kayne McLaggon (2010). Ruptured Achilles – out until September 44 Ben Reeves (2011). 2nd year academy 45 Callum McNish (2011). 2nd year academy n/a Ryan Doble (2011). 3rd year academy 2009-10 2nd year academy 2009-10 Aarran Racine (2010) Tom Dunford (2011) Sam Argent (2011) Daryl McLean Ryan Tafazolli Ciaran Harper Garyn Preen Jordan Keegan Tony Garrod 1st year academy 2009-10 Bobby Scott - rumour on this site that Aston Villa have snapped him up Lloyd Foot Jack Dovey Sam Hoskins Lloyd Isgrove Ben Martin Lee Nicholas Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain Andy Robinson Jordace Spooner List of those out of contract or who have left 1 Kelvin Davis - now out of contract, set for West Ham 5 Jan Paul Saeijs - loan expired 6 Michael Svensson - retired 7 Rudi Skacel - released, out of contract 8 Bradley Wright-Phillips - now out of contract 11 Andrew Surman - sold to Wolves for £1.2m, rising to £2m based on appearances 14 Stern John - released, now out of contract 15 Jason Euell - now out of contract 16 Romain Gasmi - loan was not made permanent 17 David McGoldrick - signed by Nottingham Forest for undisclosed fee 18 Nathan Dyer - sold to Swansea for £400,000 21 Jamie Hatch - released, now out of contract 27 Kyle Davies - sold to Real Salt Lake towards end of season 29 Jeffrey Imudia - released, now out of contract 36 Michael Byrne - now out of contract. Was on loan at Bognor Regis Town last season. Not added back to squad list on OS. 39 Ryan Smith - released, out of contract 41 Zoltan Liptack - loan terminated early - returned to Hungary Michal Dolinajec - released, now out of contract Lukas Stiklakis - released, now out of contract Liam Hogan - released, now out of contract Others now out of contract - no news on new contract 23 Lloyd James 33 Joseph Mills - offered 2 year deal 34 Jamie White - recovering from long-term injury (ankle/fibula) There are 23 in that first squad list even excluding Saga and Molyneux... Only the loss of McGoldrick should be of any concern. Vital that we keep the last three. It would also be good to keep Davis if we can; to off load Thomas and find the money to get Saeijs back. All of that seems very doable if a takeover is concluded this week. It would then be a very competitive League One squad and about the right size. For the first time in years we wouldn't have journeymen clogging up the progress routes of promising young players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 For the first time in years we wouldn't have journeymen clogging up the progress routes of promising young players. I'm not so sure there were many senior players preventing youngsters coming through last season and most would argue there were in fact far too many `opportunities' for the youngsters to shine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labibs Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 Presuming that Both Rasiak and Saganowski will leave, surely we can't go through the whole season with just paterson and white up front? We'd have to try and get a player with some height and power to play as a target man, probably on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 None of that is true though. You can only have 11 on the pitch at one time, so it doesn't matter how many are on the bench - as the ones who aren't playing reserve games in order to sit on the bench aren't getting that level of experience anyway. Plus if teams are really having a problem with it, just name 3 subs, that's allowed. Your understanding of how football works is totally laughable. Every team will name 7 subs, even if they register the manager. This is not new except in the FL. Scotland did it last season. I don't believe any team will name less than 7 subs on a regular basis. It is a fact that overall in this country there will be more professional players not getting a game on a weekend than before because of this stupid rule (2*72=144 players per weekend for the FL). How can you dispute this? There are already players sitting on the bench in the PL that should be getting a game every week in the CCC or even in the PL. Its the same situation as having a sub keeper on the bench. There are approx 92 keepers in the FL who do not get a proper game from week to week, so some top class keepers hardly ever play, madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 (edited) Your understanding of how football works is totally laughable. Every team will name 7 subs, even if they register the manager. This is not new except in the FL. Scotland did it last season. I don't believe any team will name less than 7 subs on a regular basis. It is a fact that overall in this country there will be more professional players not getting a game on a weekend than before because of this stupid rule (2*72=144 players per weekend for the FL). How can you dispute this? There are already players sitting on the bench in the PL that should be getting a game every week in the CCC or even in the PL. Its the same situation as having a sub keeper on the bench. There are approx 92 keepers in the FL who do not get a proper game from week to week, so some top class keepers hardly ever play, madness. Not only is my argument that teams won't always have 7 players on the bench not laughable, it makes a ton more sense that you insisting players are sitting on Prem benches just because they feel they have to fill the bench. Various teams have gone without a full complement of subs even before 7 were allowed. They are sitting there not because a lot of subs are allowed, but because teams are allowed to sign as many players as they like and pay them what they like, whether they use them or not - which is completely different and existed long before 1 sub became 2, 3, 5, or 7. Chelsea don't need 50+ squad players, but they'll sign anyone they can afford if it means the likes of Man U don't have them. Whether they kick a ball or not or whether they are a substitute is utterly irrelevant, as they've achieved their goal by having them in their squad (as seen with Sidwell, Parker, Bridge, etc). Milan started all this back in 1994 and back then you were lucky to be able to use two subs in a match - but they had two full teams for squad rotation. In terms of not naming 7 subs, I've said that teams CAN do it, not that they WILL. Clubs who are skint, have suspensions, etc might just choose not to worry about taking some of their reserves/youth side out of their scheduled matches just to have them sit there in case of emergency. I don't think many will, but why bother complaining about something you don't have to adhere to ? As it happens, I don't agree with Stuart Pearce (from 2008 ) : http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/article4375150.ece and Steve Tilson doesn't really make an argument : http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southend_utd/8112406.stm Edited 2 July, 2009 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 I would expect home teams to 'field' 7 subs and away teams to field fewer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningtonCrescent Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 Especially with the new rule of 7 subs on the bench (which is patently ridiculous and means even more players not getting a game each week). Surely with a smaller squad, that'll be "fewer" players not getting a game each week, no matter how many subs you're allowed? :-P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisPY Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 Your understanding of how football works is totally laughable. Every team will name 7 subs, even if they register the manager. This is not new except in the FL. Scotland did it last season. I don't believe any team will name less than 7 subs on a regular basis. It is a fact that overall in this country there will be more professional players not getting a game on a weekend than before because of this stupid rule (2*72=144 players per weekend for the FL). How can you dispute this? There are already players sitting on the bench in the PL that should be getting a game every week in the CCC or even in the PL. Its the same situation as having a sub keeper on the bench. There are approx 92 keepers in the FL who do not get a proper game from week to week, so some top class keepers hardly ever play, madness. If a player was that close to being in the squad 6th or 7th choice for the bench then they wouldn't be out on loan. They would also not be on the 5 man bench. They would be sat in the stands twiddling their thumbs p*ssed off they have no chance of playing a first team match that week. The 7 subs allows them to be in the squad, giving the manager more options so there is less need to play players out of position in the case of injury and more chance of players getting experience in the first team squad so they don't feel they are being left out in the cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjphilsaint Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 so we cannot even have a match amongst ourselves!! FFS quote of the day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 Current Squad: Goalkeepers: Tommy Forecast, Michael Poke, Bartosz Bialkowski. Defenders: Lloyd James, Ollie Lancashire, Joseph Mills, Chris Perry, Wayne Thomas, Lee Molyneux. Midfielders: Simon Gillett, Paul Wotton, Morgan Schneiderlin, Oscar Gobern, Adam Lallana, Lee Holmes, Jake Thomson, Kyle McLaggon. Strikers: Marek Saganowski, Grzegorz Rasiak, Matt Paterson, Jamie White. Nine of those are basically just academy players that got a handfull of games last season and I think Saga and Rasiak will definatly leave and Schneiderlin and Lallana probably will too. Players in bold are who i'd consider to be our starting XI on the opening day if no one else comes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 2 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 2 July, 2009 Current Squad: Goalkeepers: Tommy Forecast, Michael Poke, Bartosz Bialkowski. Defenders: Lloyd James, Ollie Lancashire, Joseph Mills, Chris Perry, Wayne Thomas, Lee Molyneux. Midfielders: Simon Gillett, Paul Wotton, Morgan Schneiderlin, Oscar Gobern, Adam Lallana, Lee Holmes, Jake Thomson, Kyle McLaggon. Strikers: Marek Saganowski, Grzegorz Rasiak, Matt Paterson, Jamie White. Nine of those are basically just academy players that got a handfull of games last season and I think Saga and Rasiak will definatly leave and Schneiderlin and Lallana probably will too. Players in bold are who i'd consider to be our starting XI on the opening day if no one else comes in. The subs bench is gonna look pretty bare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 2 July, 2009 Share Posted 2 July, 2009 So only 20 more to get rid of before the wage bill is finally manageable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 3 July, 2009 Share Posted 3 July, 2009 How can it mean more players arnt getting a game? You can still only bring on 3 subs and by having more on the bench you can bring in a few of the (ehem) youth and if the game has gone well for us, give them 10 mins at the end to build up a little experience in the league. This is excellent news. We are going to be the first club in history to have 3 goalies on the bench....ALL season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 3 July, 2009 Share Posted 3 July, 2009 Who are these 21 anyway ? From the HCDAJFU thread, courtesy of Over Land and Sea : Those still in contract but likely to be leaving (contract expiry in brackets) 4 Marek Saganowski (2010). Keen to leave – perhaps back to Poland 43 Lee Molyneux (2011). Looking for new club - currently on trial in Holland Still contracted (contract expiring date in brackets) 2 Chris Perry (2010). 3 Wayne Thomas (2010). 9 Grzegorz Rasiak (2010). Questionable whether anyone will meet his terms 10 Paul Wotton (2011). 12 Lee Holmes (2011) 13 Tommy Forecast (2013) 19 Morgan Schneiderlin (2013). Fulham rumoured to be interested 20 Adam Lallana (2011). Several clubs rumoured to be interested 22 Simon Gillett (2010). 24 Oliver Lancashire (2010). 25 Michael Poke (2010). 26 Jake Thomson (has agreed new deal - length unknown) 28 Bartosz Białkowski (2012). Given Davis's departure, may now stay 30 Jack Boyle (has agreed new deal - length unknown) 32 Andrej Pernecký (2010). 3rd year academy 2009-10 35 Matthew Paterson (has agreed new deal - length unknown) 37 Oscar Gobern (2011). 3rd year academy 2009-10 38 Jack Saville (unknown). Turns pro for start of new season 40 Anthony Pulis (2010). Recovering from a broken foot. 42 Kayne McLaggon (2010). Ruptured Achilles – out until September 44 Ben Reeves (2011). 2nd year academy 45 Callum McNish (2011). 2nd year academy n/a Ryan Doble (2011). 3rd year academy 2009-10 2nd year academy 2009-10 Aarran Racine (2010) Tom Dunford (2011) Sam Argent (2011) Daryl McLean Ryan Tafazolli Ciaran Harper Garyn Preen Jordan Keegan Tony Garrod 1st year academy 2009-10 Bobby Scott - rumour on this site that Aston Villa have snapped him up Lloyd Foot Jack Dovey Sam Hoskins Lloyd Isgrove Ben Martin Lee Nicholas Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain Andy Robinson Jordace Spooner List of those out of contract or who have left 1 Kelvin Davis - now out of contract, set for West Ham 5 Jan Paul Saeijs - loan expired 6 Michael Svensson - retired 7 Rudi Skacel - released, out of contract 8 Bradley Wright-Phillips - now out of contract 11 Andrew Surman - sold to Wolves for £1.2m, rising to £2m based on appearances 14 Stern John - released, now out of contract 15 Jason Euell - now out of contract 16 Romain Gasmi - loan was not made permanent 17 David McGoldrick - signed by Nottingham Forest for undisclosed fee 18 Nathan Dyer - sold to Swansea for £400,000 21 Jamie Hatch - released, now out of contract 27 Kyle Davies - sold to Real Salt Lake towards end of season 29 Jeffrey Imudia - released, now out of contract 36 Michael Byrne - now out of contract. Was on loan at Bognor Regis Town last season. Not added back to squad list on OS. 39 Ryan Smith - released, out of contract 41 Zoltan Liptack - loan terminated early - returned to Hungary Michal Dolinajec - released, now out of contract Lukas Stiklakis - released, now out of contract Liam Hogan - released, now out of contract Others now out of contract - no news on new contract 23 Lloyd James 33 Joseph Mills - offered 2 year deal 34 Jamie White - recovering from long-term injury (ankle/fibula) There are 23 in that first squad list even excluding Saga and Molyneux... You missed me off your list. I've got some boots and I am familiar with the playing surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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