SaintDonkey Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 Now the future of Southampton FC appears secure should Southampton Saints be brought back under the wing of the club? Women's football in Southampton has had a long and glorious history winning the FA Cup 8 times (still a record I think?). I don't know the full story of the decline but I do remember them being in the top flight of women's football when we were in the Premiership, while now they seem to be languishing in the 4th tier. Should Liebherr be dipping into his pocket to revitalise both the FA Cup winning sides of 1976? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 (edited) I would say yes but I hate womens football. No offence but the quality is rubbish, and all you hear is a high pitched scream everytime a team has the ball in the opponents half. Hate it. It's cringeworthy at best, and downright embarrassing at worst. Appalling stuff Edited 28 July, 2009 by Dibden Purlieu Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 Nah. Women's football should be illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 No. We need to put all available money into the football team that is playing in L1 not wasting cash on 'worthy' causes like women's football. If they want to play then fine but why should SFC subsidise them? I'm sure if the Southampton Saints got funding then the Southampton Womens Crown Green Bowling team would want it too.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNeil90 Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 dont care, wont watch it anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasiak-9- Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 I do watch it if theres absolutely nothing else on the telly and im incredibly bored - heck i'd watch dogs and cats football if there was nothing else on telly, but (shock shock horror horror aren't I sexist) the quality and athleticism IS very poor. The beef i've always had with it is that its a classic example of the BBC and mainstream media shoving something down our throats and telling us to like it, despite the incredibly low audience (men don't want to watch it as its downright poor, and pretty much the same with female footy fans - who in my experience watch football for the same reasons we men do - for good quality and entertainment rather than buff men running round in shorts). This is why Youtube has been an absolute revolution - the audience is now dictating what they want to watch rather than making do with what channel4/bbc/itv/sky sees fit to provide us with like we're schoolchildren. Hence the success of channels like Dave and whatnot. But nevertheless, they gave womens football a good go - absurdly showing it on terrestrial TV (i remember the euro's and FA cup final etc.) - they really did try and MAKE us like it for the sake of political correctness/equality targets etc.etc. Fortunately they totally failed - by all means - women should play football and enjoy it as much as they like - have a good game and have fun, but don't expect us to bull**** that its even close to men's non-league level and that its in any way worth watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintjersey Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 It's like with everything, women's tennis I don't find as interesting as men's tennis and they play shorter games yet they still demand equal pay. The women's cricket team have just won the world cup and ashes yet i still find it boring to watch. What they should have more of is women's beach volleyball though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sentry Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 Agreed, if women want equal pay then they should be allowed to prove them selves in the mens tours/sports. If they fairly win the competetion then they should be entitled to the big money. Sports like motor racing, horse racing, shoooting, sailing, golf, snooker darts etc,,,, women should all be near the top in these sports there is no reason why they are not. With regards to football though im not really sure, hmmmmm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Man Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 Now the future of Southampton FC appears secure should Southampton Saints be brought back under the wing of the club? Women's football in Southampton has had a long and glorious history winning the FA Cup 8 times (still a record I think?). I don't know the full story of the decline but I do remember them being in the top flight of women's football when we were in the Premiership, while now they seem to be languishing in the 4th tier. Should Liebherr be dipping into his pocket to revitalise both the FA Cup winning sides of 1976? It would be a nice idea and I hope he does. NB I wonder how many of the critical posters on this thread have watched Southampton Saints play? They might just be surprised if they could get past their prejudices and actually watch a match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synergy Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 Waste of money IMO they won't generate any revenue so will just be run on handouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 No women should clean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 No women should clean Saint Stevo unwittingly striking a blow for women's lib... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopkins Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 Anybody that comes in here claiming its worth watching is deluded. If you watch womens football you are a very very sad person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 The only way the sport is gonna improve in quality is if its given some financial backing - just look at what its done for the womens cricket team. So yes I would like to see the Saints get more backing, but its very unlikely as its just not popular enough to generate a profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true-saint-keit Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 No women should clean If they don't, who will? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joensuu Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 I'd love to see us re-affiliated with Southampton Saints. The only downside is the money, but quite simply it's a tiny proportion of our expenditure, and more importantly it's Markus' cash, not ours! In other words, any money invested in Southampton Saints wasn't necessarily going to be investing in the Southampton FC anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 Anybody that comes in here claiming its worth watching is deluded. If you watch womens football you are a very very sad person. So you are a very sad deluded person or else how would you know? Surely you are not a sheep just following the bigotted view? Personally I do not think they should rejoin the club and continue on their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 Anybody that comes in here claiming its worth watching is deluded. If you watch womens football you are a very very sad person. Is that the same for people who watch non league football? Oh, so if the standard isn't as good it makes you 'sad' if you watch it? Snob. I'd like to see the women's team brought back into the fold of the club. A football club is a vital part of a community, and a women's team would help to facilitate that as they would run teams down to junior ages. Would it not be nice for the female members of our junior Saints to be able to aspire to play for Southampton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 No women should clean Saint Stevo unwittingly striking a blow for women's lib... If ever a teacher was looking for an example to show the importance of punctuation - one little comma but a whole world of difference in meaning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 I think we should have a womans team captained by Lucy Pinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 womens fooball is gawd awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 If ever a teacher was looking for an example to show the importance of punctuation - one little comma but a whole world of difference in meaning! Reminds me of the old Benny Hill classic, when an actor says to his stage lover, in a darkened room: "What is this thing called, love?" Director shouts cut and says, "NO IT'S...."What is this thing, called love?"" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopkins Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 So you are a very sad deluded person or else how would you know? Surely you are not a sheep just following the bigotted view? Personally I do not think they should rejoin the club and continue on their own. I tried watching a womens cup final. Supposebly the bests that womens football has to offer. It involved Arsenal, who are apparently the best team in England? It was hideous. Is that the same for people who watch non league football? Oh, so if the standard isn't as good it makes you 'sad' if you watch it? Snob. No it doesn't make it the same for people who watch non league football. I never said anything of the sort. No idea where that came from. Non league football is pretty guff. However its nothing compared to womens football which is the height of absurd. I'd much prefer to watch Non league football than womens football. Womens football is turd. You have to question why anyone would enjoy watching something so bad. If you watch it you are either a fool/sad/deluded or are trying to sleep with one of the girls that plays it. Which makes you deluded as they are all lesbians. I seriously don't see the point in watching it. Watch mens football. Even non league football. Or watch another sport that men compete in. Quite honestly women do not make as enjoyable sport viewing than men. The only womens sport i'd ever have interest in is Tennis and thats still pretty guff compared to the mens version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stthrobber Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 I have nothing against womens football but I would neither watch nor support them just because they had a loose affiliation to our club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 Do they swap shirts at full time??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac-tics Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 No it's total gash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 There really is no need to be derogatory about the women's game - if you dont like it then thats fine, i admit to finding it boring. However there are plenty of young girls who love football who would love to play for SFC, and plenty of women who enjoy it. Just because something is a minority doesnt make it less valid - for example if pompey fans outnumbered saints fans 3 to 1 in hampshire it wouldnt mean that SFC is not worth existing. Sorry about the slightly contrived analogy but i wanted to put my point across in a way you'd understand! Basically my point is that you cant say people who like womens football are "very very sad" just because you dont like it yourself. Each to their own and all that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 Lots of girls play footy in the US..odd to see but makes you wonder if it will ever be as big as baseball and AF over there as the kids seem to love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 Given the limited outlay, I say yes, they should. It's a worthy thing to promote in the city, and I for one advocate for women having a right to play. Even if they are gash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 There really is no need to be derogatory about the women's game how do you work that out..? we have said nothing like we do about aspects of the real game.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopkins Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 There really is no need to be derogatory about the women's game - if you dont like it then thats fine, i admit to finding it boring. However there are plenty of young girls who love football who would love to play for SFC, and plenty of women who enjoy it. Just because something is a minority doesnt make it less valid - for example if pompey fans outnumbered saints fans 3 to 1 in hampshire it wouldnt mean that SFC is not worth existing. Sorry about the slightly contrived analogy but i wanted to put my point across in a way you'd understand! Basically my point is that you cant say people who like womens football are "very very sad" just because you dont like it yourself. Each to their own and all that I'm not knocking the girls who play it. Nor am I knocking young girls who love football and want to get into it. I admire girls playing it and would encourage it. However it is a shocking standard and I really see no good points for anyone to be a fan of it. I have no problems with it being played but I see no reason for anyone viewing it to enjoy it. Mens football is far superior and I see no point in anyone taking an interest in womens football especially at a high standard when mens football is the much better option. Its great that girls want to be involved in football, I have coached young girls who love football. However that would not make me watch it because i'd be bored ****less. There is nothing about it worth watching as a sport. The standard is of the quality of Sunday League football. And unless i'm personally involved in that, I find that pretty boring. Infact I'd go as far as saying I find most football upto the premiership pretty boring, if I have no attachment to certain teams. I like the passion, the desire to win, the storylines, the other things about the game not just the football itself. Some of the football I have watched with Saints has been shocking, but I love it because its Saints. I'll watch the Premiership because the quality of football is actually worth watching. Other than that football itself, without any attachment to something can be pretty gash. Womens football is at the bottom of that pile, because it combines both a shocking standard and a complete lack of interest from anyone but the people playing it. The saving grace of football from the Championship down is the passion from fans/players etc and the desire to win. Womens football lacks anything for anyone to be interested in. IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 if you could use one word to describe womens football, what would it be...? FEEBLE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Man Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 Womens football is turd. You have to question why anyone would enjoy watching something so bad. If you watch it you are either a fool/sad/deluded or are trying to sleep with one of the girls that plays it. Which makes you deluded as they are all lesbians. I'm not knocking the girls who play it. Nor am I knocking young girls who love football and want to get into it. I admire girls playing it and would encourage it. And here children is proof positive that Neanderthals had VERY bad memories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 And here children is proof positive that Neanderthals had VERY bad memories. he is the majority though most football fans think womens football is shyt i would go to say, it is utterly pathetic.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Man Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 he is the majority though most football fans think womens football is shyt i would go to say, it is utterly pathetic.. Ah so you've watched 5 minutes of a Ladies Cup Final too then. By the way one person cannot be a majority of anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 Ah so you've watched 5 minutes of a Ladies Cup Final too then. By the way one person cannot be a majority of anything. Rik Waller is the majority of the householders in the place he shares with his girlfriend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 Ah so you've watched 5 minutes of a Ladies Cup Final too then. By the way one person cannot be a majority of anything. well..what was the attendance..? what is a typical attendance at womens football match..? lets say southampton saints played a game a SMS and the entrance was free...do you really think more than say 5k would turn up..? do you..? i wonder what arsenal ladies (who i believe are very good in th womens league) average attendace is compared to the blokes team..? do tell as you seem such an expert.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 he is the majority though most football fans think womens football is shyt i would go to say, it is utterly pathetic.. Honestly, I tried to watch 10 minutes of the Women's FA Cup this season. I think it was Jacqui Oatley commentating with ****ing airhead **** for brains Mark Bright as summariser. Some of the girls can't even kick the ****ing ball properly, they run like total goons. If women were any good at football they should just play the mans game. But they can't, cos even the best womens player ever couldn't get a game for Northwich Victoria. Add to the the incessant screaming (which is even more annoying than the ****-poor football) and it just makes it a hellish experience. They aren't even good to look at. I would prefer to be in an Alpine - Stanley 3way. It is appalling, and anyone who says it isn't has a clunge, and no knowledge about football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 I had the "pleasure" of crossing paths with some Arsenal fans at the services the day after Forest v Saints, on the way back down the M1. I couldn't figure out why there were so many of them until I googled and discovered the Women's FA Cup Final was at Pride Park. I was, frankly, stunned anyone from more than 3 minutes away would bother. I've still not seen a goalkeeper in women's international football who would get a game for a Sunday League side. I exclude last season's Sunday Div 4 wooden spoonist Southampton Innernets FC team from that category, obviously, but then we had a Skate in goal and even the Andorran women's keeper might have been better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 I do watch it if theres absolutely nothing else on the telly and im incredibly bored - heck i'd watch dogs and cats football if there was nothing else on telly, but (shock shock horror horror aren't I sexist) the quality and athleticism IS very poor. The beef i've always had with it is that its a classic example of the BBC and mainstream media shoving something down our throats and telling us to like it, despite the incredibly low audience (men don't want to watch it as its downright poor, and pretty much the same with female footy fans - who in my experience watch football for the same reasons we men do - for good quality and entertainment rather than buff men running round in shorts). This is why Youtube has been an absolute revolution - the audience is now dictating what they want to watch rather than making do with what channel4/bbc/itv/sky sees fit to provide us with like we're schoolchildren. Hence the success of channels like Dave and whatnot. But nevertheless, they gave womens football a good go - absurdly showing it on terrestrial TV (i remember the euro's and FA cup final etc.) - they really did try and MAKE us like it for the sake of political correctness/equality targets etc.etc. Fortunately they totally failed - by all means - women should play football and enjoy it as much as they like - have a good game and have fun, but don't expect us to bull**** that its even close to men's non-league level and that its in any way worth watching. What a load of old tosh, womens football is hardly ever on terrestrial tv. They put stuff on TV that some people might want to watch and I'm sure some people did watch it, the remit is not really trying to make you like it. blaming political correctness what a yawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenwilkins Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 LOL at all the usual suspects writing off women's football just because it isn't up to Saints high standard. By the same logic Premier League team supporters would question the sanity of anyone paying to go to SMS to watch football. Would they be right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 I went to a womens FA Cup final and had to leave at half time because the girlfriend was bored. Lack of male support get's blamed for the non-advancement of the women game, but in reality women are the gate keepers to men's free time, whilst most women are happy to let their blokes spend their free time down watching SFC most would draw the line to them watching WSFC as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 It always reminds me of a softened version of the Tyro League with 20 players following the ball around like a wasp around a slow moving jam doughnut and panic ensuing for the person who actually gets it! Passes and shots seem insulated; attempts at 'long' corners and goal kicks are a bizarre spectacle due to their weakness. If anyone could actually train a monkey, cat, or dog (possibly poodles as they can ride bicycles?) football team I would pay good money to watch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 LOL at all the usual suspects writing off women's football just because it isn't up to Saints high standard. By the same logic Premier League team supporters would question the sanity of anyone paying to go to SMS to watch football. Would they be right? Actually from what I've read people are writing it off because it isn't up to their local park's high standard, and I don't see queues of people paying to watch that OR national tv coverage of it. There are some very talented exceptions, and Italy seems to have a decent standard of professionals - but just as there are plenty of skilful women players out there, there are still some international games between smaller nations where kicking seems to be quite tricky for some of the players. Can't wait for suewhistle's input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 the goal keepers crack me up the most...even the international ones rarely show many athletic atributes and just seem odd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 No it's total gash. so they swap shorts at full time? anyway...heres a teaser... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqWDoRZO0_U&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 Can't wait for suewhistle's input. Well, I'm not going to bite too hard as I'm not prepared to waste too much time replying to some of the Cro-Magnons on here. Italian football may not be better generally, or even as widespread but it is better organised, coached and funded, although I haven't worked out how yet! I haven't had to pay _anything_ in fees in spite of twice a week training sessions (in gyms when the weather is bad and every night at the beginning of the season) and my only expenses have been for travel when I've used my own car for nearby away matches. We have a masseur/physio who does prep and bandaging before games and remedial stuff at training. This is Italian 3rd Division regional football and there is only one division below us. It makes a difference from the scrabble for funds in the UK and the high match fees. I'm really chuffed to be playing footie (if from the bench) as I'm over 50 and when I was young I didn't get the chance to play organised football at school (hockey, aargh..) . Just playing for the sheer bloody pleasure of clipping a ball down the line, or pinging a crisp ball to a team-mate or annoying the heck out of the opposition defence - it's about playing. Saints contributes to community work including coaches for kids who are never going to be professional so the small amount to help improve a womens' team would be nothing on the same principal. A few kits and use of facilities would be a massive help, for example. The big clubs like Real Madrid, Barcelona, Sporting etc. all have loads of different sporting sections, and it doesn't take away from their success. It's all about community, and there's no obligation to go and watch any of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 Well, I'm not going to bite too hard as I'm not prepared to waste too much time replying to some of the Cro-Magnons on here. Italian football may not be better generally, or even as widespread but it is better organised, coached and funded, although I haven't worked out how yet! I haven't had to pay _anything_ in fees in spite of twice a week training sessions (in gyms when the weather is bad and every night at the beginning of the season) and my only expenses have been for travel when I've used my own car for nearby away matches. We have a masseur/physio who does prep and bandaging before games and remedial stuff at training. This is Italian 3rd Division regional football and there is only one division below us. It makes a difference from the scrabble for funds in the UK and the high match fees. I'm really chuffed to be playing footie (if from the bench) as I'm over 50 and when I was young I didn't get the chance to play organised football at school (hockey, aargh..) . Just playing for the sheer bloody pleasure of clipping a ball down the line, or pinging a crisp ball to a team-mate or annoying the heck out of the opposition defence - it's about playing. Saints contributes to community work including coaches for kids who are never going to be professional so the small amount to help improve a womens' team would be nothing on the same principal. A few kits and use of facilities would be a massive help, for example. The big clubs like Real Madrid, Barcelona, Sporting etc. all have loads of different sporting sections, and it doesn't take away from their success. It's all about community, and there's no obligation to go and watch any of them. Fair enough, I think most of us can relate to wanting "just wanting to play", but what's your opinion of the level of the women's game at the "top" level and where you think it fits in compared to, say, the English pyramid ? And DON'T say "it's more technical than the men's game", we all know that's just code for "no pressure on the ball"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 Look, playing iit in the park is fine (as long as you're not using goals that men could be using), but I just hate having it inflicted on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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