Fitzhugh Fella Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 do amaze me. Last week I posted an answer on Trousers's questioning thread concerning Pulis jnr. What I posted I knew to be 99.9% fact and yet one poster ridiculed it and called it bull****. I pm'ed him offering to reveal my source and complete the story (which was and still is a little sensitive). I said I would tell him if he kept it condfidential and once he had possesion of the facts would he edit the bull**** bit. Thought that was a reasonable offer. The person never even bothered to reply even though he has been a regular visitor on here since. I pm'ed him again this afternoon just in case he missed my first message but he has chosen not to reply. His right off course but wouldn';t it have been best if he hadn't made his ignorant comment in the first place? I do sometimes wonder the point of posting snippets if people rubbish it willy nilly and then don't even bother to find out more. This forum has some great posters and it is a good place to let off steam, find out things and generally chat to other Saints addicts but some do nothing than insult and wind up hiding behind keyboards while wallowing in their anonyminity. Tbh I don't feel the point any more of posting things on here - can't be bothered with the crap. Perhaps I will just pm the people on here who are genuine with things I get to hear. I will lurk - after all this forum can be addictive, but that will be it, contribution wise for a while once this thread has run its course. Thank God I hear some say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Now you'll just get accused of starting a "Look at me" thread. Some people... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Soze Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 What did you say about Pullis jnr? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Duncan! Don't do it! You're one of the posters that keeps me coming back here (another good reason not to post I hear people saying!) seriously, could be an innocent case of someone not spotting they've got a pm? I know I miss the notification number change at the top right if i'm not paying attention! ( I don't get notification emails for pm's - not sure if that's something I've turned off at some stage?) turn again **** Whittington! Edit: bloody crap swear filter! Richard Whittington it is then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 (edited) I agree.. people tend to take it way tooooo seriously...all of us, including you FF, me and even the most hard core saints fans waffles on, winds people up (sometimes without realising) and at times, talk utter crap we all have our styles, at it..we get the grammar police visit when they cant argue a point and we all believe what we want to believe..oh, and our own opinions are the right one too.. there is no harm in that and this whole place is totally harmless Recently I too found out that one or two people on here have formed an opinion of me without actually knowing me what so ever...not even come close to meeting me... I think Pompeylass and DSM are the only ones to have met me and I would be amazed if they agreed with what others think...this just proves my point that this place (or some of us) well, all of us at times, get too carried away (yes I am guilty) and take an internet message board too seriously.. we should all have a e-group hug...(and accept people will not alway believe us regardless if you have cast iron facts) Peace Tdd Edited 24 August, 2009 by Thedelldays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Most threads, I'm afraid, are quickly deteriorating into childish arguments, but that is par for the course on an open forum. Worthwhile discussion deteriorate into pre-pubescent arguments. Keep posting, and ignore those who can't produce anything but angry rants. There are a few posters here who are worthwhile reading and discussing things with, and others, like yourself, who have got genuine information. I'm trying to bypass those who have nothing to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Please carry on mate, I love getting a bit of gossip even if its a bit wrong I dont care. When I want facts I go on the OS site simples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Most threads, I'm afraid, are quickly deteriorating into childish arguments, but that is par for the course on an open forum. Worthwhile discussion deteriorate into pre-pubescent arguments. Keep posting, and ignore those who can't produce anything but angry rants. There are a few posters here who are worthwhile reading and discussing things with, and others, like yourself, who have got genuine information. I'm trying to bypass those who have nothing to say. Gaylord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Rude and ignorant people will be met in all walks of life and this forum has it's full share FF - but as you're certainly one of this places foremost contributors I can only urge you to ignore them and continue to provide the vast majority of decent (& appreciative)Saints fans on here with the informed and interesting information you've become known for . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopkins Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Maybe people don't care about Pulis? This smacks of a look at me, I'm ITK, i'm awesome and I can't believe everyone doesn't want to know everything I know because i'm great and ITK. Maybe you should just post everything you know rather than just little teasers. That seems pretty pointless. I don't see why you care enough about people thinking you are talking ****, that you will pm them proof that you are not talking ****. Either you want people to know something or you don't. Don't just start offering more info to people who don't believe you at first. Either post everything you know about Pulis or don't post anything. Don't start going around saying "I know something about Pulis and you don't. Gutted" Its pretty gay. Especially as its about Pulis, who is a utterly pointless human being anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Personally I am cutting down. So much so I haven't renewed. I think the 3 post limit will be the nicorette patch I need because fundamentally there are better things to do (especially as most of the arguments are circular). I also have a slight (and probably pedantic, given the effort the mods put in) niggle about paying money for something that used to be free. So I'll take my money and my mouth to the advertisement funded purgatory of the three post limit. And with that, I'm out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Lol @ FF getting all upset and throwing his teddies out of the pram because someone didn't agree with his opinion. Some people need to not take the innernets quite so seriously : roll : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardustonmyfeet Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 I tend to despise this kind of thread FF, but your contribution makes this forum so much better than it would be otherwise. We all have to filter out some of the crap that is spewed out on here at one stage or another. Keep posting. Likewise, I hope that the guy who used to provide updates on the youth will return soon. I think his username was navyred, if I'm not mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Gaylord. I suppose this kind of comment is part of what FF is talking about. It speaks for itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 I predict the return of Long Shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Lol @ FF getting all upset and throwing his teddies out of the pram because someone didn't agree with his opinion. Some people need to not take the innernets quite so seriously : roll : That's not quite true!! FF posted something that he said he knew to be true (about Pulis Snr being approached to be manager before Lowe came back IIRC) and several people called it bollix!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Maybe people don't care about Pulis? This smacks of a look at me, I'm ITK, i'm awesome and I can't believe everyone doesn't want to know everything I know because i'm great and ITK. Maybe you should just post everything you know rather than just little teasers. That seems pretty pointless. I don't see why you care enough about people thinking you are talking ****, that you will pm them proof that you are not talking ****. Either you want people to know something or you don't. Don't just start offering more info to people who don't believe you at first. Either post everything you know about Pulis or don't post anything. Don't start going around saying "I know something about Pulis and you don't. Gutted" Its pretty gay. Especially as its about Pulis, who is a utterly pointless human being anyway. Isn't / wasn't that the point though? I.e. That we've acquired a "dubiously skillful" player via some sort of subtefuge? Surely, the worse the player the more scandelous it potentially is? I certainly "care" that the money I pay to the club is, in part, going to an employee who seemingly isn't up to the job - a circumstance that was seemingly known at the time of purchase? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 I predict the return of Long Shot. Odds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 (edited) That's not quite true!! FF posted something that he said he knew to be true (about Pulis Snr being approached to be manager before Lowe came back IIRC) and several people called it bollix!! You get this in all walks of life though, don't you? People disagreeing with what you say is not exclusive to this forum, nor is it to Southampton fans. I often tell people things I know to be true yet they still don't believe me, tell me I'm talking bo*****s or punch me in the face, but I don't think that it's just the people in the pub I go to that do this sort of thing! People all over the world will sometimes disagree with or just not be that interested in what you have to say. PS. I'm not having a go at FF here, or anyone else, just simply pointing out that this sort of thing happens everywhere, everyday. It's not rare! Edited 24 August, 2009 by niceandfriendly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 I predict the return of Long Shot.Your prediction would be wrong then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Your prediction would be wrong then And why would that be, oh wise one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 And why would that be, oh wise one?Because I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 24 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Maybe people don't care about Pulis? This smacks of a look at me, I'm ITK, i'm awesome and I can't believe everyone doesn't want to know everything I know because i'm great and ITK. Maybe you should just post everything you know rather than just little teasers. That seems pretty pointless. I don't see why you care enough about people thinking you are talking ****, that you will pm them proof that you are not talking ****. Either you want people to know something or you don't. Don't just start offering more info to people who don't believe you at first. Either post everything you know about Pulis or don't post anything. Don't start going around saying "I know something about Pulis and you don't. Gutted" Its pretty gay. Especially as its about Pulis, who is a utterly pointless human being anyway. The trouble is I want to tell people what I know but often it's hard without breaking confidences. I don't want to be accused of dangling, teasing or leading people on or boasting about being ITK because sincerely that is not me. I've never been one to sit in corporate or ingratiate myself with players - I am happy having a few jars and having a good old day out watching Saints with some friends. I love gossip (especially transfer targets) and like to share what I get. I am lucky -i live close to So'ton and because i am an oldish git these days and have been around the club a long time i get old things (some planted info I grant you). What's the point of knowing if you can't pass it on - good or bad. Mind you one here if its bad news then you will be shot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Because I know. Oh dear. And what do you know, Westy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 And how do you know you know what I know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 24 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 24 August, 2009 That's not quite true!! FF posted something that he said he knew to be true (about Pulis Snr being approached to be manager before Lowe came back IIRC) and several people called it bollix!! Perfect example krissyboy - I don't think Weston Super saint even read what I wrote. No problem with people's opinions - that's what makes this forum tick - it's the unneccesary insults etc. Occasionally I go over the top but I like to think I can apologise when things calm down TDD and I had a spat last week but we at least never insulted each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 we've had two or three years of constant infighting on here, primarily about boardroom issues and non football related ****e and yet you choose now to get annoyed by fellow posters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Posts 7 & 30 on here ? http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=16055 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 The pathetic little squabbles involving 19 whatshisname vs the pahars and assorted bum boys gang are the most boring reads of the year. FACT. And as somebody said above, circular arguments are what it's all about. Very boring... it's into log on, check for news, post a snidey comment where possible territory for me. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 we've had two or three years of constant infighting on here, primarily about boardroom issues and non football related ****e and yet you choose now to get annoyed by fellow posters? PTSD kicking in???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Up to you, of course, Duncan, but I for one respect your posts and would be sad if you stopped contributing. Having read back over that thread, I think I know who you mean and am a bit surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red&White Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Come on mate don`t let the tossers on here get to you . There is not that many of em thankfully but there are shedloads of us who are interested in what you have to say. Group hug ? COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 The trouble is I want to tell people what I know but often it's hard without breaking confidences. I don't want to be accused of dangling, teasing or leading people on or boasting about being ITK because sincerely that is not me. I've never been one to sit in corporate or ingratiate myself with players - I am happy having a few jars and having a good old day out watching Saints with some friends. I love gossip (especially transfer targets) and like to share what I get. I am lucky -i live close to So'ton and because i am an oldish git these days and have been around the club a long time i get old things (some planted info I grant you). What's the point of knowing if you can't pass it on - good or bad. Mind you one here if its bad news then you will be shot! Don't let one or two posters get to you, all threads get hijacked by someone who disagrees with others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Up to you, of course, Duncan, but I for one respect your posts and would be sad if you stopped contributing. Having read back over that thread, I think I know who you mean and am a bit surprised. Could you swap places with him and 'do one' instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 do amaze me. Last week I posted an answer on Trousers's questioning thread concerning Pulis jnr. What I posted I knew to be 99.9% fact and yet one poster ridiculed it and called it bull****. I pm'ed him offering to reveal my source and complete the story (which was and still is a little sensitive). I said I would tell him if he kept it condfidential and once he had possesion of the facts would he edit the bull**** bit. Thought that was a reasonable offer. The person never even bothered to reply even though he has been a regular visitor on here since. I pm'ed him again this afternoon just in case he missed my first message but he has chosen not to reply. His right off course but wouldn';t it have been best if he hadn't made his ignorant comment in the first place? I do sometimes wonder the point of posting snippets if people rubbish it willy nilly and then don't even bother to find out more. This forum has some great posters and it is a good place to let off steam, find out things and generally chat to other Saints addicts but some do nothing than insult and wind up hiding behind keyboards while wallowing in their anonyminity. Tbh I don't feel the point any more of posting things on here - can't be bothered with the crap. Perhaps I will just pm the people on here who are genuine with things I get to hear. I will lurk - after all this forum can be addictive, but that will be it, contribution wise for a while once this thread has run its course. Thank God I hear some say. Ignore them and do your own thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 People who express opinions and then finish by adding FACT afterwards, generally are talking rubbish. FACT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Timmier Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 FF, I rely on this site for my Saints news-fix and despite not posting much I visit several times a day. Genuine 'lurkers' like myself (20-odd posts in over 2 years FFS) rely on posters like yourself for snippets that we'd struggle to get anywhere else. If posters like yourself who are prepared to stick your neck out and take some flack become 'lurkers' too, then the value of this forum would diminish. I guess what I'm saying is for every member who pxsses you off, there's any number of 'silent' members who are grateful for your input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 I agree.. people tend to take it way tooooo seriously...all of us, including you FF, me and even the most hard core saints fans waffles on, winds people up (sometimes without realising) and at times, talk utter crap there is no harm in that and this whole place is totally harmless I think you're right there in that people do take it too serious on here and everyone is guilty to some degree of talking bollix, waffle etc etc etc. With the exception of one or two wakners who cross the line the vast majority of posts/posters on here are fairly innocuous and as you say meeting posters in "real life" can often be a pleasant surprise. I reckon even sotonjoe isn't the cck he comes across as on here (PS sotonjoe the weather was great;)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wightman35 Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Rude and ignorant people will be met in all walks of life and this forum has it's full share FF - but as you're certainly one of this places foremost contributors I can only urge you to ignore them and continue to provide the vast majority of decent (& appreciative)Saints fans on here with the informed and interesting information you've become known for . Seconded! I always look for the postings of FF and agree with CEC that the contributions of FF are a great asset to the forum. I like the gossip and snippets of news. If it goes pearshape later, so what? A genuine source can sometimes be wrong and the phantom ITK poster will be spotted. I think FF should be thanked not pilloried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 I tend to talk bollix most of the time..and SOME of the time I am wrong...most famously by starting a thread STATING Wotte will keep us up... LOL what is the point of this place if some are not prepared to put their views 'out there' for others to chew over..some are utter bollix some are pretty close to the mark.. it is for others to choose what to believe.. dont be put off FF... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Lol @ FF getting all upset and throwing his teddies out of the pram because someone didn't agree with his opinion. Some people need to not take the innernets quite so seriously : roll : But it`s not about differing opinions. FF posted a bit of information that he had and was told that he was a bull****ter. The poster had, I would imagine, no knowledge as to whether that information was correct or not but dismissed FF in an insulting way. You could say "just get over it" but why should he? Sensible exchange of views and opinion is perfectly fine, and along with a laugh and a joke is how things should be, but there is a trend on here for people to respond, not in an intelligent way, but with with base insults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Surely this is the idea of a Forum, otherwise FF just get yourself a blog or something. Why is it that so many on ere think the sun shines outa FF's rear? And is this thread an attempt to see how many e-buddies you have that want to beg you to stay and post your info, that is a) Old and b) impossible to really be able to tell if it is/was true anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wightman35 Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 People who express opinions and then finish by adding FACT afterwards, generally are talking rubbish. FACT .....................er yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Surely this is the idea of a Forum, otherwise FF just get yourself a blog or something. Why is it that so many on ere think the sun shines outa FF's rear? And is this thread an attempt to see how many e-buddies you have that want to beg you to stay and post your info, that is a) Old and b) impossible to really be able to tell if it is/was true anyway Yes but it's the way some people come out and say they don't believe or think something being said is wrong. FF said what he said and was called an outright "bullsh!tter" which is out of order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 .....................er yes! I think it was a joke mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintleigh Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 FF, I rely on this site for my Saints news-fix and despite not posting much I visit several times a day. Genuine 'lurkers' like myself (20-odd posts in over 2 years FFS) rely on posters like yourself for snippets that we'd struggle to get anywhere else. If posters like yourself who are prepared to stick your neck out and take some flack become 'lurkers' too, then the value of this forum would diminish. I guess what I'm saying is for every member who pxsses you off, there's any number of 'silent' members who are grateful for your input. Seconded I take all comments from ITKers on here with a pinch of salt (for some of them I use a JCB) but I generally accept what FF says as I can't see why he would be using the forum as a self promoter. I only FF through some of his books but accept that he has an inside track on a lot of SFC related matters. FF - don't stop posting in the main arena or at least allow those who you PM to enlighten the rest of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Tbh I don't feel the point any more of posting things on here - can't be bothered with the crap. Perhaps I will just pm the people on here who are genuine with things I get to hear. I will lurk - after all this forum can be addictive, but that will be it, contribution wise for a while once this thread has run its course. Thank God I hear some say. 08457 90 90 90 Seriously get a grip. It's just a messageboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 24 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 24 August, 2009 I wasn't fishing for praise or ridicule, by and large most on here have a little pop take the **** and move on. Fair does. But when you are trying to tell something which is a little awkward - almost inviting people to read between the lines - it is a bit of a bummer when you get a load of bull**** comments. Maybe I should be a little less precious, maybe i am too sensitive but some times just a little more thought before posting would work wonders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 24 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 24 August, 2009 I think it was a joke mate. Bern have to confess i expected you to wade in on this post but you didn't - appreciate that especially as I was a little short with you the other day - my apologies. I think you and I learned our lesson I guess - fall out but don't get personal. The internet is a strange place for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 yes, ever stranger it seems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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