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Looks like Schneiderlin wants to go - Solent just confirmed on Twitter - apparently the French U21 manager has got involved and Morgan has expressed a desire to leave.

 

Poor decision Morgan - disappointed.

 

Also, Rasiak to Watford or Reading later today it is thought.

 

 

 

Yes I heard echos of this from my girls friend's boyfriend at the time of the mediterranean tournament but unlike many I kept stum. It's a "secret de polichinelle" that the FFF have told him to find a "better club".

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Not a better club but one in an higher division.

 

Whatever you want to call it,the DTN at the FFF have apparently (and not for the first time) told him to find a club where he can exploit what they believe to be a great talent and not get 48 bales of crap knocked out of him every game.

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Will be interesting to see what sort of fee he commands.

Obvious talent - rarely expressed or impacted games and may well be suited to a higher standard.

Without dragging up the anti lowe stuff again, this was a signing we made when we couldnt afford Pearson and had to draft in the dutch duo. There were rumours that we were taking him in the short term to offload him later to Arsenal for a fat wedge.......................let's see what we get for him

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Very disappointed if true. I too had concerns as to whether Morgan could cope with the physical element to League One, but he's made a decent start to the season and has shown that he's not afraid to get stuck in.

 

If he has asked to go, then there is no point in keeping him, we only want players at the club that are committed to the cause. I guess all we can do is try to get a decent price for him which enables us to find an able replacement.

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Scheiderlin is dog****e, thank god he wants to go.

 

Excellent news.

 

Morgan is a quality player as I have said since I first saw him play after he signed. Will one day(perhaps very soon) be a Premiership or top flight european League player, "perhaps" even in the French senior squad. The French Football association rate him very highly hence why he is captain of the under 20 team. The under 21 manager wants him to be playing at a higher level to improve his development. You really have no idea.

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Well then we really need a new central midfielder to play with Hammond. Someone who can score a goal preferably. Unless there's anyway Lallana can finally learn to play central midfield.

 

Having heard how Lallana performed on tuesday night, I see no reason why he couldn't play alongside Hammond and provide the attacking thrust we have lacked so far this season.

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Morgan is a quality player. Will one day(perhaps very soon) be a Premiership or top flight european League player, "perhaps" even in the French senior squad. You really have no idea.

 

 

Of course he has an idea, that of antiquated 1980's english football where kicking opponents up in the air made a player a great asset along with a lot of sterile running about and kissing the badge at every opportunity..

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Morgan is a quality player as I have said since I first saw him play after he signed. Will one day(perhaps very soon) be a Premiership or top flight european League player, "perhaps" even in the French senior squad. The French Football association rate him very highly hence why he is captain of the under 20 team. The under 21 manager wants him to be playing at a higher level to improve his development. You really have no idea.

 

Not based on his performances for us he wont. Poor last season and poor this. In my honest opinion...........

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Morgan is a quality player. Will one day(perhaps very soon) be a Premiership or top flight european League player, "perhaps" even in the French senior squad. You really have no idea.

I wholeheatedly agree with this but IMO was the wrong player at the wrong time for us and not suited to the hustle and bustle of the English Leagues 2nd and 3rd tiers. For the players development sake and for our own current situation, best decision is to sell him and hopefully make a small profit along the way.

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Morgan is a quality player as I have said since I first saw him play after he signed. Will one day(perhaps very soon) be a Premiership or top flight european League player, "perhaps" even in the French senior squad. The French Football association rate him very highly hence why he is captain of the under 20 team. The under 21 manager wants him to be playing at a higher level to improve his development. You really have no idea.

 

Behave.

 

Name one MOTM performance for us? or even one game which he changed for the good?

 

There's not a chance he's going to be playing in the premiership anytime soon. He's got the talent but can't apply it at all.

 

A defensive midfielder who's scared of tackling isn't going to go far.

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Whatever you want to call it,the DTN at the FFF have apparently (and not for the first time) told him to find a club where he can exploit what they believe to be a great talent and not get 48 bales of crap knocked out of him every game.

 

not noticed him getting the crap knocked out of him to be honest. Besides IMO the higher up the league the more physically demanding the league is - faster, stronger oponents, with less time and space to get the ball down and avoid tackles.

 

There are as many bad tackles in the top flight as in League 1. A popular mis conception that its one big blood fest down here. Less quality, yes, but no more physical battles really.

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Behave.

 

Name one MOTM performance for us? or even one game which he changed for the good?

 

There's not a chance he's going to be playing in the premiership anytime soon. He's got the talent but can't apply it at all.

 

A defensive midfielder who's scared of tackling isn't going to go far.

 

to be fare to him he has looked much better this season (you would assume having filled out a bit, settled in and got more used to the speed of the game) and seeing as he is a young lad he is only ever going to improve. We actually tend to look a much worse side when he subbed, simply because we don't then have the quality in the middle to get teh ball under control and play so we hood it a la Wotton - because they are not good enough on the ball.

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Not based on his performances for us he wont. Poor last season and poor this. In my honest opinion...........

 

He's been good this season tbf.

 

As said above somewhere. He's a class act. Way too good for this league. Divisions like this have the ability to bring players like Morgan to its level, rather than players looking a class above it.

 

He'll go onto to play for a good european club/prem club. Maybe even from this move. He has that ability. It doesn't help him at all playing in this league with some of the players at our club.

 

Fair play to him if he goes. Good move for both parties. If he stays then great but if not we'll probably get someone not as good but a little more suited to our needs.

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not noticed him getting the crap knocked out of him to be honest. Besides IMO the higher up the league the more physically demanding the league is - faster, stronger oponents, with less time and space to get the ball down and avoid tackles.

 

There are as many bad tackles in the top flight as in League 1. A popular mis conception that its one big blood fest down here. Less quality, yes, but no more physical battles really.

 

Absolutely right.

 

It does my head in when people claim the lower leagues are "more physical". There might be a bit more running around after the ball because the players aren't as good as keeping it but the notion that you need to be "harder" or prepared to indulge in thuggery is pure hokum.

 

Let's have a look at the team tipped by many to win the Premier League this year:

 

Carvallho

Terry

Alex

Bosingwa

Mikel

Essien

Ballack

Drogba

 

To people honestly believe they are "less physical" than the players in League One?

 

The fact is that Schneiderlin may well discover some form if he leaves us, or he may not. He clearly has some raw talent, however his product for us has been largely disappointing and that has nothing whatsoever to do with what League we're in. It might be down to management, dispondency, lack of application, inability to perform in matches, being surrounded by poor players... whatever, but it's certainly not down to the superhuman physical prowess of lower league football teams.

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to be fare to him he has looked much better this season (you would assume having filled out a bit, settled in and got more used to the speed of the game) and seeing as he is a young lad he is only ever going to improve. We actually tend to look a much worse side when he subbed, simply because we don't then have the quality in the middle to get teh ball under control and play so we hood it a la Wotton - because they are not good enough on the ball.

 

Don't get me wrong he's very good on the ball but that's it really. He doesn't do enough defensively and he doesn't do enough going forward, I don't think i've ever seen him do anything important in either box.

 

He was very good against Milwall but that's about it imo, I think he'd look a lot better and we'd get more out of him if we had two proper wingers for him to find with his diagonal balls.

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Looks like it will be a very busy few days then if Rasiak,Saga & Morgan leave.

 

I would then expect another 4 players in maybe 5.I think we are currently working on another centre back with the no 6 shirt not being allocated and a pacy winger.we will need 1or 2 new strikers if the Poles leave,a right back to cover Murty unless they are happy with Thomas & James covering that position.If james then they would need another central midfielder to replace Morgan.

 

Have a feeling that it will be a very busy transfer deadline day although we may well use the loan system for a couple of the needed players after the transfer deadline

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Don't get me wrong he's very good on the ball but that's it really. He doesn't do enough defensively and he doesn't do enough going forward, I don't think i've ever seen him do anything important in either box.

 

He was very good against Milwall but that's about it imo, I think he'd look a lot better and we'd get more out of him if we had two proper wingers for him to find with his diagonal balls.

 

can't argue with that really, although he has played pretty well in a few other games too, especially at the start of last season when we were intent on passing all day long no matter where it toook us (backwards usually) which very much suited him.

 

I'd like to stress again that he's a young lad and apart from a few geneous' and players with great pace (which he is neither), youngsters tend to take their time to really shine.

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Morgan is a quality player as I have said since I first saw him play after he signed. Will one day(perhaps very soon) be a Premiership or top flight european League player, "perhaps" even in the French senior squad. The French Football association rate him very highly hence why he is captain of the under 20 team. The under 21 manager wants him to be playing at a higher level to improve his development. You really have no idea.

 

And I totally, wholeheartedly agree with you... and I'm a good judge of a player. Schneiderlin is not a CCC or L1 player, it's that simple. His development would be better suited at Arsenal or a top European club. He will play for the full French national side, without a doubt.

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I rate him, but it does make sense for him to move on, would surely make sense for him to move back to continental football where his game is best suited?

 

What I don't get is the timing! What has changed in the last month? If he goes and Muurty is out for a while, then we'll certainly need to bring in at least one more midfielder.

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This is very poor timing - AP has surely spoken with each player and with his experience should have been able to sniff out any bull****ters?

 

We are 5 players short at the moment (imo) if Rasiak leaves and Spider wants out we possibly need 7. I cant see us getting anymore than 2, so in summary we are ****ed!

 

Wont lose any sleep over Rasiak or Spider - rasiak is a decent player but has been mis-treated at SMS in parts, cant blame him for wanting to move on. Spider on the other hand seems deluded about his ability - I wouldnt even have him in the Saints 1st 11 so if he thinks he can do better elsewhere, drive him there.

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Yes I heard echos of this from my girls friend's boyfriend at the time of the mediterranean tournament but unlike many I kept stum. It's a "secret de polichinelle" that the FFF have told him to find a "better club".

 

Bloody French! League 1 is probably a higher standard than their top tier anyway.

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Morgan is a quality player as I have said since I first saw him play after he signed. Will one day(perhaps very soon) be a Premiership or top flight european League player, "perhaps" even in the French senior squad. The French Football association rate him very highly hence why he is captain of the under 20 team. The under 21 manager wants him to be playing at a higher level to improve his development. You really have no idea.

 

You clearly didn't see how well the team performed on Tuesday while his lazy ass was warming the bench.

 

Scheiderlin obviously has talent, he has a great touch and can pass the ball. But that is only part of a midfielders game, his movement is rubbish, he can't tackle, I've yet to see him win a header, he makes no forward runs, he cannot close down opponents, he cannot score and cannot defend.

 

The midfield on Tuesday looked way better with Lloyd James in the middle.

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