Goalie66 Posted 21 March, 2010 Share Posted 21 March, 2010 While it is a long short I reckon that Charlton are chatchable. Of their last 16 games they have picked up only 21 points with 5 wins 5 losses and six draws. All their fans think they are dreadful and are in a false position. They also have to play: Huddersfield A US A Colchester A Leeds H Norwich H On their current form I think they may struggle to get another 12 points. My next door neighbour is a season ticket holder and yesteday against Gillingham they were baying for the managers head. Some hope? Or too much to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 21 March, 2010 Share Posted 21 March, 2010 All of Charlton's remaining games, very tricky... Huddersfield A MK Dons A Carlisle H Southampton A Exeter A Oldham A Colchester A Leeds H Norwich H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 21 March, 2010 Share Posted 21 March, 2010 While it is a long short I reckon that Charlton are chatchable. Of their last 16 games they have picked up only 21 points with 5 wins 5 losses and six draws. All their fans think they are dreadful and are in a false position. They also have to play: Huddersfield A US A Colchester A Leeds H Norwich H On their current form I think they may struggle to get another 12 points. My next door neighbour is a season ticket holder and yesteday against Gillingham they were baying for the managers head. Some hope? Or too much to do? I'd be suprised if we can catch Charlton. What I think Charlton shows though is how a really good start to the season can set you up. Charlton where flying early in the season and even though they are wobbling badly they're still in with a shout of promotion. Personally I can't what for them to come to st Mary's. My sons first ever match was last years 2-3 defeat to Charlton at the end of last season so I want us to destroy them this year. All so Charlton fans are so ****ing gobby it'd be nice to wipe the smile of their faces (although as you point out they're not smiling much at the moment). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted 21 March, 2010 Share Posted 21 March, 2010 mission impossible... never say never but tbf but i think not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madsent Posted 21 March, 2010 Share Posted 21 March, 2010 While it is a long short I reckon that Charlton are chatchable. Of their last 16 games they have picked up only 21 points with 5 wins 5 losses and six draws. All their fans think they are dreadful and are in a false position. They also have to play: Huddersfield A US A Colchester A Leeds H Norwich H On their current form I think they may struggle to get another 12 points. My next door neighbour is a season ticket holder and yesterday against Gillingham they were baying for the managers head. Some hope? Or too much to do? Charlton and Colchester are both wobbling at the moment but it's probably too late. Our goal difference means we're almost guaranteed to be above any team we catch but we still need to gain 5 points on Bristol Rovers, 6 on MK Dons, 11 on Huddersfield and to catch one of the playoff teams who are all 13-17 points ahead of us. The pressure will tell on our players (and fans) so we're bound to slip up at some point. My prediction from a few weeks ago was that we'd get between 65 and 75 points. I now predict we'll get to 73 points (7 wins, 2 draws, 1 defeat) which won't be enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 21 March, 2010 Share Posted 21 March, 2010 Have just spent a week in Tenerife (tough but someone's got to do it) where I met and discussed life, the universe and football (it was AI so free booze all week) with a Charlton fan. He reckons they have a consistently awful record over the last few games of every season (like we always seem to get a bad start) and gives them zero chance of automatic and is seriously worried about play-offs. Given their run-in, they could well be in trouble. We will be meeting before to game on Apr 10th to resume our serious attempt to reduce the world's alcohol lake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 21 March, 2010 Share Posted 21 March, 2010 mission impossible... never say never but tbf but i think not REMEMBER ..The Great Escape Season... 98/99 .....nothing is ever over 'till the fat referee blows time on the last game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 21 March, 2010 Share Posted 21 March, 2010 While it is a long short I reckon that Charlton are chatchable. Of their last 16 games they have picked up only 21 points with 5 wins 5 losses and six draws. All their fans think they are dreadful and are in a false position. They also have to play: Huddersfield A US A Colchester A Leeds H Norwich H On their current form I think they may struggle to get another 12 points. My next door neighbour is a season ticket holder and yesteday against Gillingham they were baying for the managers head. Some hope? Or too much to do? Statistically every season (on average) at least two teams in the top six will lose form badly after Easter ...so ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen Posted 21 March, 2010 Share Posted 21 March, 2010 Have just spent a week in Tenerife (tough but someone's got to do it) where I met and discussed life, the universe and football (it was AI so free booze all week) with a Charlton fan. He reckons they have a consistently awful record over the last few games of every season (like we always seem to get a bad start) and gives them zero chance of automatic and is seriously worried about play-offs. Given their run-in, they could well be in trouble. We will be meeting before to game on Apr 10th to resume our serious attempt to reduce the world's alcohol lake I have a similar plan with a couple of old school friends who still follow the Addicks. And it's true that, even in the days when I used to be a Valley regular back in the seventies, Charlton always have a worse second half to their season. I don't know if we can catch them, it looks a tall order. But I wouldb't mind betting they slip down to 6th, maybe 7th. It would be good if they don't go up if we don't because at least it gives us an excuse to get together and drink too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 21 March, 2010 Share Posted 21 March, 2010 I'm confused - is it long or short...?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 22 March, 2010 Share Posted 22 March, 2010 But your argument shoots itself in the foot a bit. Should Charlton lose to say Huddersfield and Colchester that puts those teams into Charlton's place not us. This whole play-offs discussion is a bit ridiculous, we aren't going to make up 13 in 10 on Colchester, 11 in 10 on Huddersfield and 17 in 10 on Charlton, they may wobble and waiver but at the end of the day 2 of them will be above us.At this moment in time there are still 7 teams in this division who have obtained more points than us , ie we haven't caught them up in 36 games so why anyone should think we will surpass 2 of them in the last few games beats me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 22 March, 2010 Share Posted 22 March, 2010 But your argument shoots itself in the foot a bit. Should Charlton lose to say Huddersfield and Colchester that puts those teams into Charlton's place not us. This whole play-offs discussion is a bit ridiculous, we aren't going to make up 13 in 10 on Colchester, 11 in 10 on Huddersfield and 17 in 10 on Charlton, they may wobble and waiver but at the end of the day 2 of them will be above us.At this moment in time there are still 7 teams in this division who have obtained more points than us , ie we haven't caught them up in 36 games so why anyone should think we will surpass 2 of them in the last few games beats me. I agree that it seems somewhat dobtful on paper, but as I wrote earlier....almost every season at least 2 of the top 6 lose form dramatically in the run in after Easter. They might not lose every game, but if they only draw and get 1 point a game, then a run of 3 point games from Saints would quickly close the gap by gaining 2 points over the opposition from each match. Those of us with an eye for history can look back at our copy of In That Number and see the dramatic end to the 1948/9 season when Saints were 8 pints ahead of the second club with 7 games to go. Saints lost top scorer Charlie Wayman through injury and then went into free fall, getting only 1 win and 2 draws from those last 7. (In those days it was only 2 pts. for a win.) It would indeed be a remarkable feat if it comes off and I believe it would go to the last game before we see the outcome..but ..remember 1949 ! NOTHING is impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 22 March, 2010 Share Posted 22 March, 2010 But your argument shoots itself in the foot a bit. Should Charlton lose to say Huddersfield and Colchester that puts those teams into Charlton's place not us. This whole play-offs discussion is a bit ridiculous, we aren't going to make up 13 in 10 on Colchester, 11 in 10 on Huddersfield and 17 in 10 on Charlton, they may wobble and waiver but at the end of the day 2 of them will be above us.At this moment in time there are still 7 teams in this division who have obtained more points than us , ie we haven't caught them up in 36 games so why anyone should think we will surpass 2 of them in the last few games beats me. Totally agree.Charlton may indeed suffer a wobble but it is most unlikely given our level of consistancy that we will take advantage of it. I'm confused - is it long or short...?? Perhaps he is hedging his bets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 22 March, 2010 Share Posted 22 March, 2010 I agree that it seems somewhat dobtful on paper, but as I wrote earlier....almost every season at least 2 of the top 6 lose form dramatically in the run in after Easter. They might not lose every game, but if they only draw and get 1 point a game, then a run of 3 point games from Saints would quickly close the gap by gaining 2 points over the opposition from each match. Those of us with an eye for history can look back at our copy of In That Number and see the dramatic end to the 1948/9 season when Saints were 8 pints ahead of the second club with 7 games to go. Saints lost top scorer Charlie Wayman through injury and then went into free fall, getting only 1 win and 2 draws from those last 7. (In those days it was only 2 pts. for a win.) It would indeed be a remarkable feat if it comes off and I believe it would go to the last game before we see the outcome..but ..remember 1949 ! NOTHING is impossible. Of course nothing is impossible..yet. This case is not so simple though, it's not about 1 team making up points on another team ,it's about us surpassing no less than 4 other teams who are more or less points ahead of us.Only 10 wins will do us any real good and even then I don't see any 2 of Colchester,Huddersfield,Swindon,Millwall and Charlton going into complete free fall and Bristol Rovers and MK Dons only getting average results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith Posted 22 March, 2010 Share Posted 22 March, 2010 Realistically, no chance for us. But yes, Charlton will struggle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 22 March, 2010 Share Posted 22 March, 2010 Charlton have done really well to be where they are - no money spent, lost players, future in doubt, off field board trouble ect ect If Charlton fans are calling for Parky's head then they are mental! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 22 March, 2010 Share Posted 22 March, 2010 Charlton have done really well to be where they are - no money spent, lost players, future in doubt, off field board trouble ect ect If Charlton fans are calling for Parky's head then they are mental! All too common these days - sometimes it works, sometimes not. Nottm Forest's recent wobble had some fans on their message board saying get rid of Davies! Now get back to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 22 March, 2010 Share Posted 22 March, 2010 Charlton have done really well to be where they are - no money spent, lost players, future in doubt, off field board trouble ect ect If Charlton fans are calling for Parky's head then they are mental! Maybe they think Pardew is still in charge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 22 March, 2010 Share Posted 22 March, 2010 Charlton are one of the few clubs in this league that I hate. The amount of stick we got on their forum when we appointed Pardew was pretty funny. I remember the majority saying 'they're going straight to league two.' Even some couldn't understand why Liebherr had brought Southampton when he could have brought a bigger club like Charlton. Anyway, back on topic - I think it would be a very tough task to catch up with Charlton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyb1 Posted 22 March, 2010 Share Posted 22 March, 2010 Charlton have done really well to be where they are - no money spent, lost players, future in doubt, off field board trouble ect ect If Charlton fans are calling for Parky's head then they are mental! I think you need to support another team mate. You are full of praise for everyone but saints. Constantly.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyb1 Posted 22 March, 2010 Share Posted 22 March, 2010 http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/wettbewerb/GB3/league_one/transfers/transferuebersicht.html Just an interesting read. According to that we have 2m profit over the course 09-10 thus far.. I'll await the ripping apart from the doomers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikee Posted 22 March, 2010 Share Posted 22 March, 2010 I'd be suprised if we can catch Charlton. What I think Charlton shows though is how a really good start to the season can set you up. Charlton where flying early in the season and even though they are wobbling badly they're still in with a shout of promotion. Personally I can't what for them to come to st Mary's. My sons first ever match was last years 2-3 defeat to Charlton at the end of last season so I want us to destroy them this year. All so Charlton fans are so ****ing gobby it'd be nice to wipe the smile of their faces (although as you point out they're not smiling much at the moment). My sons first ever game as well. Luckily he was only 4 and still doesn't know that we lost! Fortunately he has been a few times this season and seen us win including MK at the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludgershallsaint Posted 22 March, 2010 Share Posted 22 March, 2010 80 points will be enough for a place in the play offs, especially for us as we'll also have GD on our side. Chances of us getting 80 points - very, very slim. Not worth looking at the table until 5 pm on 10th April assuming, of course, we win every game until then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 22 March, 2010 Share Posted 22 March, 2010 (edited) http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/wettbewerb/GB3/league_one/transfers/transferuebersicht.html Just an interesting read. According to that we have 2m profit over the course 09-10 thus far.. I'll await the ripping apart from the doomers did we really get 1.6 million for Rasiak, good business then, useless dork. If NC got all that for Rasiak then he is a top top man. but these figures aren't kosher are they because Hammond certainly wasn't free.Must be some silly video football game I guess. Edited 22 March, 2010 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 22 March, 2010 Share Posted 22 March, 2010 My sons first ever game as well. Luckily he was only 4 and still doesn't know that we lost! Fortunately he has been a few times this season and seen us win including MK at the weekend. We where at MK (was my sons first away match). I'm glad I started taking him this season (so far he has only seen saints lose once this year to Swindon:mad:). If I'd taken him last season he'd be a Manure fan like all his friends by now. This year though he has loved it now he's red and white just like his dad:D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 22 March, 2010 Share Posted 22 March, 2010 http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/wettbewerb/GB3/league_one/transfers/transferuebersicht.html Just an interesting read. According to that we have 2m profit over the course 09-10 thus far.. I'll await the ripping apart from the doomers That site doesn't have a clue and has little credibility for a start it states Seaborne and Hammond were free transfers which is clearly wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 22 March, 2010 Share Posted 22 March, 2010 While it is a long short I reckon that Charlton are chatchable. Of their last 16 games they have picked up only 21 points with 5 wins 5 losses and six draws. All their fans think they are dreadful and are in a false position. They also have to play: Huddersfield A US A Colchester A Leeds H Norwich H On their current form I think they may struggle to get another 12 points. My next door neighbour is a season ticket holder and yesteday against Gillingham they were baying for the managers head. Some hope? Or too much to do? Harsh IMO, while the USA may not be the best world force, they're surely too good for Charlton. I don't want Leeds to go up, and because of this, I actually hope Charlton's form picks up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSaint Posted 22 March, 2010 Share Posted 22 March, 2010 Slight tangent. Should I be ok to buy a Charlton ticket a week in advance when I'm down for the Orient home game? Also, Orient should be fine to get a ticket on the day, shouldn't it? (and I assume that Brighton has long sold out?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 22 March, 2010 Share Posted 22 March, 2010 Slight tangent. Should I be ok to buy a Charlton ticket a week in advance when I'm down for the Orient home game? Also, Orient should be fine to get a ticket on the day, shouldn't it? (and I assume that Brighton has long sold out?) It's a bank holiday 3pm kick off, so there could be quite a few people interested in spending the day at St Mary's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSaint Posted 22 March, 2010 Share Posted 22 March, 2010 It's a bank holiday 3pm kick off, so there could be quite a few people interested in spending the day at St Mary's... So it is. Does anyone know how many have been sold for Orient yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 22 March, 2010 Share Posted 22 March, 2010 REMEMBER ..The Great Escape Season... 98/99 .....nothing is ever over 'till the fat referee blows time on the last game. Hmm, an escape from relegation. I prefer the 1983-84 season where despite having Steve Williams injured for the run-in, Saints gained 6 wins and 4 draws. They lost the first 2 without Stevie, and then went on their run. Try this for size: Leicester [H] 2-2 Everton [H] 3-1 West Ham [H] 2-0 Watford [A] 1-1 Coventry [H] 8 [Eight] - 2 Stoke City [A] 1-1 Spurs [H] 5-0 Brum City [A] 0-0 WBA [A] 2-0 Notts County [A] 3-1 It took them to within 3 points of Liverpool and 2nd place. Ironically, it was losing to relegated Notts County at home, the previous year, that possibly cost Saints the title that season. Same old Saints. As for the other teams in this division, this season. There are plenty of slip-ups to be had. We're not out of it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 22 March, 2010 Share Posted 22 March, 2010 They also have to play: Huddersfield A US A Colchester A Leeds H Norwich H Hopefully the jet lag coming back over the pond will **** them up for the next game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 23 March, 2010 Share Posted 23 March, 2010 Hmm, an escape from relegation. I prefer the 1983-84 season where despite having Steve Williams injured for the run-in, Saints gained 6 wins and 4 draws. They lost the first 2 without Stevie, and then went on their run. Try this for size: Leicester [H] 2-2 Everton [H] 3-1 West Ham [H] 2-0 Watford [A] 1-1 Coventry [H] 8 [Eight] - 2 Stoke City [A] 1-1 Spurs [H] 5-0 Brum City [A] 0-0 WBA [A] 2-0 Notts County [A] 3-1 It took them to within 3 points of Liverpool and 2nd place. Ironically, it was losing to relegated Notts County at home, the previous year, that possibly cost Saints the title that season. Same old Saints. As for the other teams in this division, this season. There are plenty of slip-ups to be had. We're not out of it yet. Nice quote Andrew, I was thinking of the fantstic run-in in those last 3 months. It was (mainly Pahars signing) that produced those vital goals to keep us up, but one of two of those teams who went down under us (Blackburn and Notts Forest) wouldn't have expected that looking at the table the prev.Christmas. As stated I'm expecting (statistically speaking ) some fall-out from at least two of the present top six ..just how badly they perform and how well we can do to make up the gap ..remains to be seen. COYR !!!!!! . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 23 March, 2010 Share Posted 23 March, 2010 (edited) While it is a long short I reckon that Charlton are chatchable. Of their last 16 games they have picked up only 21 points with 5 wins 5 losses and six draws. All their fans think they are dreadful and are in a false position. They also have to play: Huddersfield A US A Colchester A Leeds H Norwich H On their current form I think they may struggle to get another 12 points. My next door neighbour is a season ticket holder and yesteday against Gillingham they were baying for the managers head. Some hope? Or too much to do? .and of course they don't actually have to lose ALL these games either. A run of defeats or even 1 point draws would have the same outcome..especially IF we can continue to pick up 3 points a game. Charltons form has dipped dramatically of late, and Colchester are looking a bit rocky, too. Edited 23 March, 2010 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 23 March, 2010 Share Posted 23 March, 2010 .and of course they don't actually have to lose ALL these games either. A run of defeats or even 1 point draws would have the same outcome..especially IF we can continue to pick up 3 points a game. Charltons form has dipped dramatically of late, and Colchester are looking a bit rocky, too. Which ever way I do that BBC predictor we can only get up on goal difference, finishing above both Charlton and Colchester but below Huddesfield. Therein lies the problem - there are nine teams currently better placed above us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 23 March, 2010 Share Posted 23 March, 2010 Which ever way I do that BBC predictor we can only get up on goal difference, finishing above both Charlton and Colchester but below Huddesfield. Therein lies the problem - there are nine teams currently better placed above us. Thats the way I see it (and have done for a while), there's just to many teams they can't all **** it up. Without the -10 we'd be well placed for a last gasp push for the play offs but with the -10 it's to much to do with the games left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amesbury Saint Posted 23 March, 2010 Share Posted 23 March, 2010 perhaps they will go into administration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 24 March, 2010 Share Posted 24 March, 2010 perhaps they will go into administration? ...stranger things have happened ! there are already a couple of teams in L1 who are on the brink.. sadly not likely to help us much. (as too are Cardiff ..and they are in play-off places in CCC ..... and Palace are on the way down after there debacle with -10) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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