St. Jason Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 (edited) Ladbrokes have suspended all bets on Pardew being sacked and have told anyone wanting to place said bet they'd have to go to an independent agent. The said bookmaker also said Hughes was his replacement! I realise this has been touched on in other threads but this rumour is gaining massive speed and with the bookies suspending bets it looks imminent! For me this is worrying, Mr Liehberr and Cortesse said this was a 5 year plan, after year 1 I feel we've made massive progress, I feel Alan has formed the basis of a great team capable of winning the league 1 title next year and would be gutted if he was sacked, both for me and more importantly him! I feel he has earned the right to have a full pre-season and a shot at the title next year. I also wonder what sort of message it sends out to the rest of football if we were to sack him, what would be the clubs stance if Hughes fails to get us promoted next year? Lowe made a huge error in sacking Pearson, do we really want to go down the same route again? Your thoughts please, would you be p1ssed if we sacked him, would Hughes replacing him soften that, is success at all costs the way we want our club run??? Edited 9 May, 2010 by St. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 Ladbrokes have suspended all bets on Pardew being sacked and have told anyone wanting to place said bet, they'd have to go an independent agent. The said bookmaker also said Highes was his replacement! I realise this has been touched on in other threads but this rumour is gaining massive speed and with the bookies suspending bets it looks imminent! For me this is worrying, Mr Liehberr and Cortesse said this was a 5 year plan, after year 1 I feel we've made massive progress, I feel Alan has formed the basis of a great team capable of winning the league 1 title next year and would be gutted if he was sacked, both for me and more importantly him! I feel he has earned the right to have a full pre-season and a shot at the title next year. I also wonder what sort of message it sends out to the rest of football if we were to sack him, what would be the clubs stance if Hughes fails to get us promoted next year? Lowe made a huge error in sacking Pearson, do we really want to go down the same route again? Your thoughts please, would you be p1ssed if we sacked him, would Hughes replacing him soften that, is success at all costs the way we want our club run??? OK it's late on a Sunday evening, so your link to this is where exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 Hughes as replacement, lol.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 This would be one of the most ridiculous and impatient sackings at Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 Hughes has no experience of lower league football. Give me Steve Cotterill over Mark Hughes while we're a League One club anyday. (Assuming Pardew is sacked) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 If NC sacks Pardew I will be incredulous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 9 May, 2010 Author Share Posted 9 May, 2010 OK it's late on a Sunday evening, so your link to this is where exactly? No linky i'm afraid, daughters boyfriend went to place the bet earlier today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 Somethings going on, too many noises to suggest otherwise. Bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 I don't usually think responding to every rumour is a dignified way to run a football club but NC needs to stamp on this asap - if it is untrue. The longer he let's this fester the more damaging it is becoming. I know someone who spoke to AP this week re the situation and his response was "I am past caring". That can be taken a million different ways but it shows he is fed up with the whole scenario. Despite having small misgivings re AP's tactical acumen I think replacing him would be a foolish step. So SFC; time to put this to bed and hurry up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 if true...not alot we can do about it..will be annoyed but IF it is hughes, we have a good replacement that will stun football in this country and in no way would hughes come here unless he had plenty of money to spend.. this would be nothing like pearson moving on in that we have oodles of cash to spend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 9 May, 2010 Author Share Posted 9 May, 2010 Hughes has no experience of lower league football. Give me Steve Cotterill over Mark Hughes while we're a League One club anyday. (Assuming Pardew is sacked) Your right Hughes has no League 1 experience but could NC's thinking be that as our aim is the prem get in a prem manager now so we don't have to replace (cotterill) when we make the Prem? For me this shouldn't even be on the agenda, Pardew deserves at least another year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 I think Hughes would be a great appointment, however I think sacking Pardew would be horrific! This is now his team. A team that he has built and has respect of. Not only the team but the back room staff. This is quite likely a load of sh1t, just because of what Nicola said ages ago. I think that Pardew has more chance of keeping our best players and brining in better players than Hughes has. So because of that, Pardew has to stay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 If they sack Pardew then that's not good, however we dont know what goes on behind closed doors and maybe the relationship between AP and NC is not working. This club is bigger than AP and I feel we will win the league next season with or without him. The appointment of Hughes would be top class and a more than capable replacement. What ever our owners decide I will support them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 I don't usually think responding to every rumour is a dignified way to run a football club but NC needs to stamp on this asap - if it is untrue. The longer he let's this fester the more damaging it is becoming. I know someone who spoke to AP this week re the situation and his response was "I am past caring". That can be taken a million different ways but it shows he is fed up with the whole scenario. Despite having small misgivings re AP's tactical acumen I think replacing him would be a foolish step. So SFC; time to put this to bed and hurry up! totally spot on, at the end of the day all of this uncertainty was brought on by NC's comments back in February, so he's going to have to end this - and im starting to believe it will be with Pard's sacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 totally spot on, at the end of the day all of this uncertainty was brought on by NC's comments back in February, so he's going to have to end this - and im starting to believe it will be with Pard's sacking. I can see it..people are so sure that all this is bollix and pardew will be here...maybe he will but something is not right like I said. IF it is hughes, then that will be one massive, MASSIVE coup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 I really don't want Pardew to go and i really don't want Hughes tbh. Perhaps i am being negative towards the appointment of hughes due to the fact that Pardew has done a fantastic job thus far imo. If the outgoing manager was useless then i would be more receptive to the appointment of Hughes maybe. Hughes does not,at this moment in time, thrill me with excitement at all, however much of a coup it would be for some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor_Saint Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 ffs - Didn't Ladbrokes stop bets last year in July on WGS being the new Saints manager? What a load of b*ll*x. One of them 'my brothers girlfriends sisters dog' type report. We had someone reporting that the programmes weren't published because their brother told him that they hadn't printed any due to a c*ck up at the printers, then people reporting that they had seen the magazine. Rumours are dangerous. I support Pardew 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 I would be very surprised if Hughes came here now as I am sure he could still pull down a Prem job and the earliest we are likely to offer him that is another 2 or 3 seasons. Mind you I was surprised when we netted Pardew so who knows. Like others I think it would be very foolish to part company with Pardew now, but Cortese seems to be very impatient and knows little about football...so anything could happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 Hughes does not,at this moment in time, thrill me with excitement at all, however much of a coup it would be for some. that was the standard response to pardew this summer.. so far, the new owners have not got much wrong...so, I am with them 100%.. at the end of the day, THEY are the new start...without them, we would be lucky to be in league 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 ffs - Didn't Ladbrokes stop bets last year in July on WGS being the new Saints manager? What a load of b*ll*x. One of them 'my brothers girlfriends sisters dog' type report. We had someone reporting that the programmes weren't published because their brother told him that they hadn't printed any due to a c*ck up at the printers, then people reporting that they had seen the magazine. Rumours are dangerous. I support Pardew 100% I think 99% of the fanbase support Pardew and want him to stay, but it doesn't look like NC shares the same views. Don't get me wrong - i'm pleased with what NC has done and how he's contributed in moving this club forward, but he is starting to bug me a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 Appointing Hughes as manager would be massive..... While I understnad the loyalty to AP, Hughes is an in demand premier manager whereas AP once was.... AP failed to win in 26 league games this season.....that was too many imo and NC/ML may also agree. I would be very excited about Hughes being our manager (spesh in L1) anyone that thinks he is not a top class manager is lacking in football knowledge imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_lambden Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 I can see it..people are so sure that all this is bollix and pardew will be here...maybe he will but something is not right like I said. IF it is hughes, then that will be one massive, MASSIVE coup TBH I agree, although Hughes has no experience in the lower leagues it would be a massive coup for the club, I mean Mark Hughes in League 1 just a few months after leaving Man City!. Despite this, I am 100% BACKING PARDEW and unless he goes I will continue to back him and the board :finga: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 I think 99% of the fanbase support Pardew and want him to stay, but it doesn't look like NC shares the same views. Don't get me wrong - i'm pleased with what NC has done and how he's contributed in moving this club forward, but he is starting to bug me a little bit. Of course this could just all be rumour-mongering or bullsh!t. Or if there is truth in the reports, it may not be for footballing reasons, there could be fundamental differences of opinions on how to take the club forward (sporting director etc.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 9 May, 2010 Author Share Posted 9 May, 2010 ffs - Didn't Ladbrokes stop bets last year in July on WGS being the new Saints manager? What a load of b*ll*x. One of them 'my brothers girlfriends sisters dog' type report. We had someone reporting that the programmes weren't published because their brother told him that they hadn't printed any due to a c*ck up at the printers, then people reporting that they had seen the magazine. Rumours are dangerous. I support Pardew 100% I also support Pardew 100% but is this not the whole point of a fans forum, to post rumours, tales, pics etc etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbrennan Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 What odds can I get for Hughes to be next manager then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 Can't find anything that gives this thread any credibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 Ok, what are they offering on Hughes being sacked next May? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 7 teams in the Premier League failed to get 40 points this season - there will be plenty of vacancies for Mark to consider in the top flight next season. Why would he want to work two leagues down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 We are heading the right way under the stewardship of Pardew,why try and fix something that is not broke? It would be a massive gamble to replace Pardew right now. I don't care who with. We have stability,something that we have been lacking for eons. No need to tamper with anything....yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 Appointing Hughes as manager would be massive..... While I understnad the loyalty to AP, Hughes is an in demand premier manager whereas AP once was.... AP failed to win in 26 league games this season.....that was too many imo and NC/ML may also agree. I would be very excited about Hughes being our manager (spesh in L1) anyone that thinks he is not a top class manager is lacking in football knowledge imo He might have lost more games than we would have liked, but without the -10 we would still have made the play offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK the 2nd Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 Ladbrokes did not have this as a market nor did any other bookie as far as i am aware. All Bo*l*cks imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 9 May, 2010 Author Share Posted 9 May, 2010 Of course this could just all be rumour-mongering or bullsh!t. Or if there is truth in the reports, it may not be for footballing reasons, there could be fundamental differences of opinions on how to take the club forward (sporting director etc.). Wither or not the rumours are true or not I don't know, what i do know is that this thread is not bullsh1t, this is what my daughters boyfriend was told at Ladbokes today, I and he hope it's untrue and Pardew is still here in 5 years leading us to 6th in the Premiership and onto the Europa league! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 9 May, 2010 Author Share Posted 9 May, 2010 7 teams in the Premier League failed to get 40 points this season - there will be plenty of vacancies for Mark to consider in the top flight next season. Why would he want to work two leagues down? Potential? Surely there is more potential here than at say Wolves, Bolton, Wigan, Portsmouth etc??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor_Saint Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 Wither or not the rumours are true or not I don't know, what i do know is that this thread is not bullsh1t Utter tosh - so did he want to go and place a bet on Pardew being sacked and got upset because the bookies said no? Think the quicker admin lock this thread the better. Complete fabrication and self satisfaction. ttfn x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 This is not easy. I am not one of AP's biggest fans but Mark Hughes does not fill me with confidence for sure. 26 games not won in a season is quite a lot in consideration of his armery. However also what will not of escaped the owners notice is Saints lack of tactical superiority and cultured football. We have won many games despite our tactics not because of. I would have given AP a little more time on balance but more in hope than expectation that he could carry it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 If, this is true, and I stress, 'IF,' Then there better be a damned good reason for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 this thread is not bullsh1t, I was referring to the press coverage and rumours on the various message boards, not the thread. Haven't any reason not to believe what you say but can't be arsed to substantiate it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 2 words. Stuart baxter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntingdon Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 Since when did Ladbrokes or any bookmaker offer prices on League 1 managers to get sacked If you're suggesting Ladbrokes turned the bet down because they think Mark Hughes will be appointed this week, then I'm going to question your integrity I'm afraid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 Potential? Surely there is more potential here than at say Wolves, Bolton, Wigan, Portsmouth etc??? Ahhhh right - so you're the one that believes that managers take jobs because of the 'size of the potential' and not 'the size of the paypacket'. We may be big hitters in this league, but I doubt that we are paying the going rate of the Prem League managers just yet. Probably easier to demonstrate the potential of a club already in the Prem League than one that needs, not one, but two, promotions just to get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 He might have lost more games than we would have liked, but without the -10 we would still have made the play offs. Without the minus 10 the playoffs would not have been the target!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor_Saint Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 Since when did Ladbrokes or any bookmaker offer prices on League 1 managers to get sacked Keep up - since the OPs brothers girlfriends sisters dogs adopted son tried to put a bet on earlier today. ADMIN PLEASE LOCK THE THREAD - TIS POINTLESS UNFOUNDED DRIVEL (and loads of other threads yesterday and today covering the same ground) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 9 May, 2010 Author Share Posted 9 May, 2010 Utter tosh - so did he want to go and place a bet on Pardew being sacked and got upset because the bookies said no? Think the quicker admin lock this thread the better. Complete fabrication and self satisfaction. ttfn x Dear oh dear, In all the time I've been on this site I've started a mere 21 threads! That's exactly what happened except for the "upset" bit. He heard at yesterdays game that Pardew was on the way, as a bit of a gambler he thought he'd try and make a bit of cash on this and was indeed told "no, the books closed!" which is what I'm reporting to you lot, I don't see the problem! Months ago I heard about Avram and the brothel, I reported it to you all then as well, no self satisfaction, no ego stroking just telling you what I've heard!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red And White Barmy Army Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 I certainly don't want Pardew to go but the worst thing we can do as fans is to overly-criticise NC is it does happen. Pardew obviously promised promotion this season in January and in effect may have cost the club a few million as a result. Looking to next season I'm sure it'll be a daft decision but NC would live and learn. We won't be lingering down here for too long even if I was in charge. On the other hand, if we start giving bull sh!t to NC then it would only certainly start testing his patience and the last thing we as fans should be doing is disrespecting a man without whom we may not have a club. If AP does go, just look at it a bit objectively and hopefully reaslise that it isn't the end of the world and maybe just a learning curve for Cortesse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stmusicdude Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 Appointing Hughes as manager would be massive..... While I understnad the loyalty to AP, Hughes is an in demand premier manager whereas AP once was.... AP failed to win in 26 league games this season.....that was too many imo and NC/ML may also agree. I would be very excited about Hughes being our manager (spesh in L1) anyone that thinks he is not a top class manager is lacking in football knowledge imo Mark Hughes has won just over 100 games of 300 games managed this isn't sucesss! ok it's at a higher level but at Man city he had the pick of the worlds best! He has no experiance of lower leagues & the dog fights you have to get into mid season .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 2 words. Stuart baxter Oh not again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 Me and St Jason may disagree on politics, but I can vouch for him 100%. He broke the NOTW Avram Grant story long before they did and he doesn't need to bull****. If this is what he has been told then he has been told it - St Jase has better things to do rather than waste time spreading bull**** rumours on an Internet forum. If Ladbrokes have closed the books, then they've closed the books. Read into that what you will, but there is no smoke without fire..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 9 May, 2010 Author Share Posted 9 May, 2010 Keep up - since the OPs brothers girlfriends sisters dogs adopted son tried to put a bet on earlier today. ADMIN PLEASE LOCK THE THREAD - TIS POINTLESS UNFOUNDED DRIVEL (and loads of other threads yesterday and today covering the same ground) What's your problem??? I don't know if this is a Ladbroke policy or just the Ladbroke in Woolston. Why do some fans feel the need to get personal and offensive? This a Saints Fan's Forum, where fellow fans come and share story's, pic's, tales and rumours. Like it or not there is 100% something going on, these rumours are on the Palace site, football forum site, 606 site etc! I hope there is nothing in it, I hope that Woolston Ladbroke's have stopped taking bet's because everyone at yesterdays game heard the same rumour and fancied making a couple of £ and popped in there on the way back to The Bridge Inn. True or not I think Mr Cortesse needs to say something, even if it's a simple "we stand 100% behind Alan and all these rumours are complete tosh" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor_Saint Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 What's your problem??? Just fed up with all these "Pardew's going" threads without any proof and just fueling the internet fire. YAT (yet another thread) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMojoRisin Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 Mark Hughes YES FECKIN PLEASE. See you Pardew your inept tactics and style of football cost us reaching the play-offs. LATERS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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