Turkish Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 on this forum. We get mass hysteria and knee jerk OMG, i'm never going to be able to go to a game again, reaction when we cant pay for our tickets monthly, Nicola Cortese is Satan etc. Or the other end of the specturm which is the Cortese is god, he can do no wrong (except if he'd have sacked Pardew) Ryan Dickson is the best left back since Roberto Carlos etc Oh how i long for the days when all people gave a toss about was the team and the football, the days when you'd be hard pushed to name the chairman of any club and the only thing that mattered was 1/ you won 2/ it was entertaining. Pies, queues, burgers, tickets, beer, shirts designs, banner designs etc, who really gives a **** as long as we win/entertain every week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 Boring. People have expressed this opinion hundreds of times already and we don't need another thread about it. Cortese has p*ssed off a load of saints fans and however you feel that is the case. Hopefully some compromise can be reached in order to bring back the feelgood factor for those who feel disenfranchised by this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 Tell you what, I have been browsing the Huddersfield forum for three months now and they don't moan like us on this forum, maybe we are beginning to think we are a big club all of a sudden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 Count them, there are 20 drama queens at most. Vociferous, multi-posting, self-reinforcing, opinionated, deluded. Life's a *****, and then you die. Accept it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 Moaners' threads: 148 Moaners moaning about the moaners' threads: 126 Couldn't be closer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 on this forum. We get mass hysteria and knee jerk OMG, i'm never going to be able to go to a game again, reaction when we cant pay for our tickets monthly, Nicola Cortese is Satan etc. Or the other end of the specturm which is the Cortese is god, he can do no wrong (except if he'd have sacked Pardew) Ryan Dickson is the best left back since Roberto Carlos etc Oh how i long for the days when all people gave a toss about was the team and the football, the days when you'd be hard pushed to name the chairman of any club and the only thing that mattered was 1/ you won 2/ it was entertaining. Pies, queues, burgers, tickets, beer, shirts designs, banner designs etc, who really gives a **** as long as we win/entertain every week? You forgot to mention the £3 ticket tax. It is a blatant rip-off. The majority of other clubs with a ticket tax charge £1. How can Saints justify tripling that figure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfurdent Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 Tell you what, I have been browsing the Huddersfield forum for three months now and they don't moan like us on this forum, maybe we are beginning to think we are a big club all of a sudden. But that is Huddersfield, them northerners are happy with a lump of turnip and a forelock to tug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 Boring. People have expressed this opinion hundreds of times already and we don't need another thread about it. Cortese has p*ssed off a load of saints fans and however you feel that is the case. Hopefully some compromise can be reached in order to bring back the feelgood factor for those who feel disenfranchised by this. signing a player or two and winning games will definately do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 I'm actually starting to get really ****ed off with all of this, both the action and the reaction... The club has behaved disgracefully. It's torn up it's own fans charter, lied and given fans no warning whatsoever that a valid payment option would be removed. The way some fans have mocked those people, who could quite easily have save money over the last few months but had been assured a valid payment option would be kept, is disgraceful. There are fans out there who are perfectly responsible with money but find themselves, funnily enough in the summer, with holidays to pay for etc not able to just magic £300-£400 out of their backsides. That's bad enough but the club has given them a month to find it else the prices go up. If you still haven't managed to magic that money up then you have until the 6th of August and then you won't get a season ticket at all! The club could have solved all of this by either a) Telling fans in January that they were not going to renewing the payment plan option or b) Offering half season tickets (no credit option there) The underlying threat here is that the club ripped up it's own fans charter, this pathetic excuse that it was "Last year's charter" is shocking, it's effectively saying, we have a commitment to you, but it's on a rolling basis and subject to change. How can you take anything they say seriously knowing they could renege on their word at any notice? To all those smart arses telling us to get a credit card, go game by game, stop moaning, stop rocking the boat, stop exerting your right to freedom of speech, I say this; don't come moaning to us then the club does something that annoys you. Please don't get upset if they do something that winds you up as we'll not listen. If you can't offer a sympathetic ear to people who are genuinely affected by this and genuinely upset at not being able to sit in their seat and renew their ticket, then don't speak at all... To all of those talking of boycotting and staging demonstrations, grow up. I may be unhappy at the tearing up of the fans charter and the stealth tax on tickets but lets not forget that we very nearly didn't have a club and if we have to pay more to ensure our club not just survives but flourishes, then so be it. We can't expect Leibherr to splash out millions of his own money into the club and then baulk at paying an extra £50 ourselves. This is going to be an amazing season and I for one won't miss for anything. I won't boycott the club, won't slag off Cortese or miss a game. I will however criticise the club if they do wrong and praise it when it does right. What they have done with prices is wrong but everything else they've done is right and to boycott the club for one mistake is an immense over-reaction.... If we don't learn from the past we're destined to make the same mistakes in the future. We allowed Lowe to mismanage the club to the point of oblivion and Pompey fans buried their heads in the sand when their sugar daddy mismanaged their club. The club ballsed up and need to answer to a sizeable section of the fanbase for their actions but lets not get too hysterical eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 How can Saints justify tripling that figure? £1 million pound signings? Big wages? Will you be moaning when we sign another Championship player for the best part of a million? Or do you think Liebherr should just use his own cash rather than run the club as a viable business? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 £1 million pound signings? Big wages? Will you be moaning when we sign another Championship player for the best part of a million? Or do you think Liebherr should just use his own cash rather than run the club as a viable business? Would you be happy to pay Chelsea prices in the top flight because that's the territory the club is heading for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djharvey Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 Would you be happy to pay Chelsea prices in the top flight because that's the territory the club is heading for? You really are lost in the head! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 £1 million pound signings? Big wages? Will you be moaning when we sign another Championship player for the best part of a million? Or do you think Liebherr should just use his own cash rather than run the club as a viable business? well if Liebherr is not using his own cash then we don't need to worry too much if he decides to sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 June, 2010 Author Share Posted 5 June, 2010 Would you be happy to pay Chelsea prices in the top flight because that's the territory the club is heading for? :smt081 we are not going to be the new Chelsea!! With investment and decent managerment signing decent players we will end up a midtable premier league club best case, which might ocasionally over achieve and make the top 8 or have a decent cup run. Lets not get carried away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 I'm actually starting to get really ****ed off with all of this, both the action and the reaction... The club has behaved disgracefully. It's torn up it's own fans charter, lied and given fans no warning whatsoever that a valid payment option would be removed. The way some fans have mocked those people, who could quite easily have save money over the last few months but had been assured a valid payment option would be kept, is disgraceful. There are fans out there who are perfectly responsible with money but find themselves, funnily enough in the summer, with holidays to pay for etc not able to just magic £300-£400 out of their backsides. That's bad enough but the club has given them a month to find it else the prices go up. If you still haven't managed to magic that money up then you have until the 6th of August and then you won't get a season ticket at all! The club could have solved all of this by either a) Telling fans in January that they were not going to renewing the payment plan option or b) Offering half season tickets (no credit option there) The underlying threat here is that the club ripped up it's own fans charter, this pathetic excuse that it was "Last year's charter" is shocking, it's effectively saying, we have a commitment to you, but it's on a rolling basis and subject to change. How can you take anything they say seriously knowing they could renege on their word at any notice? To all those smart arses telling us to get a credit card, go game by game, stop moaning, stop rocking the boat, stop exerting your right to freedom of speech, I say this; don't come moaning to us then the club does something that annoys you. Please don't get upset if they do something that winds you up as we'll not listen. If you can't offer a sympathetic ear to people who are genuinely affected by this and genuinely upset at not being able to sit in their seat and renew their ticket, then don't speak at all... To all of those talking of boycotting and staging demonstrations, grow up. I may be unhappy at the tearing up of the fans charter and the stealth tax on tickets but lets not forget that we very nearly didn't have a club and if we have to pay more to ensure our club not just survives but flourishes, then so be it. We can't expect Leibherr to splash out millions of his own money into the club and then baulk at paying an extra £50 ourselves. This is going to be an amazing season and I for one won't miss for anything. I won't boycott the club, won't slag off Cortese or miss a game. I will however criticise the club if they do wrong and praise it when it does right. What they have done with prices is wrong but everything else they've done is right and to boycott the club for one mistake is an immense over-reaction.... If we don't learn from the past we're destined to make the same mistakes in the future. We allowed Lowe to mismanage the club to the point of oblivion and Pompey fans buried their heads in the sand when their sugar daddy mismanaged their club. The club ballsed up and need to answer to a sizeable section of the fanbase for their actions but lets not get too hysterical eh? An excellent balanced post. I would take issue with just one small part however - do we really know that a sizeable section of the fanbase are actually very concerned about the change in credit arrangements? As an example, I have always used the option of installments, but have also had the foresight to save early so I can still pay up-front. That's called taking responsibility. If I had not done this, then yes I would be a bit miffed that the club had taken away the option, but could only really blame MYSELF for relying on the good-will of the club. In summary, I think there are more people like me than those who are left without any method of payment. Fans just need to adjust and it will take some longer than others I guess (particularly those that are a little prone to hysterics on here! lol). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 The club does not have to offer a payment scheme, it does not have to run a payment scheme. The club offers a service that you either can or can't afford or pay for. It is YOUR choice whether or not to pay for this service and whether or not the service can be justified. It is not YOUR seat, it is not YOUR ticket, it is the clubs. You have the option of leasing this seat off of them for a season if you can afford it. There is a lot in life i would like to buy, however do i p*ss and moan if the company does not make it affordable to me ?? No, i decide i cannot justify it or find a way to pay for it myself, such as a loan or CC or saving. I agree Darren W your post is well thought out and written but a lot of fans are currently acting like spoilt brats at the moment, we have a chance to play attractive football, spend money on new exciting players and move back towards the Prem, yet many are p*ssed off about an extra few quid. I agree the club seriously should have warned if the payment plan was being scrapped but it in no way HAS to provide that service. It is not your ticket/seat until it is paid for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 :smt081 we are not going to be the new Chelsea!! With investment and decent managerment signing decent players we will end up a midtable premier league club best case, which might ocasionally over achieve and make the top 8 or have a decent cup run. Lets not get carried away! I was asking would you be happy paying Chelsea prices to watch games because that is the bracket Cortese clearly wants us in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The boy done well Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 I was asking would you be happy paying Chelsea prices to watch games because that is the bracket Cortese clearly wants us in. If it meant we were challenging the top 6, in Europe, going to Cup Finals, I think I would. This may or may not be beyond us (NC is very ambitious) but surely this is what we should be aiming for. Back in the Prem must be our priority and if we have to pay a good deal more to watch it then that goes with the territory. I said on another thread that some of the posters on here are destined to be supporters of a League 1 club for ever. That's not where I want to be and I suspect I'm not alone. Sorry but we've heard what the whingers have to say but enough is enough. Every thread is being hijacked and ruined by them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 I was asking would you be happy paying Chelsea prices to watch games because that is the bracket Cortese clearly wants us in. Playing in European finals ?? The best players ? A great stadium ?? Premiership contenders ?? FA Cup/League cup finals ?? Noone wants that do they Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 Playing in European finals ?? The best players ? A great stadium ?? Premiership contenders ?? FA Cup/League cup finals ?? Noone wants that do they Are you deliberately being a complete div? I was asking whther you'd be happy paying chelsea ticket prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 Would you be happy to pay Chelsea prices in the top flight because that's the territory the club is heading for? A fair question but we were always, at some time, going to have to pay for the club being rescued. ML & NC are not doing this for the fans. They operate in a free market economy and will charge what they think they can reasonably get away with to recoup, over time, their investment. I think that they have made a mistake by withdrawing the installment plan. I always bought tickets on an as needed basis because I worked the majority of my weekends. My job has changed and I have now bought a season ticket both for my son amd myself. To be honest, with last season's performances and the hoped for promotion this season I thought that we would struggle to get tickets. We haven't and I think that is the backlash that NC is getting because of his grave error on the installment plan. I really did think we would sell 25k+ season tickets this year. I don't think we will now. However, I think that NC will realise the error and will reconsider his choice. Let's hope that he reverts to an installment plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 June, 2010 Author Share Posted 5 June, 2010 I was asking would you be happy paying Chelsea prices to watch games because that is the bracket Cortese clearly wants us in. Its the price/value pivot. Would i pay £50+ to watch lower-mid table premier league football every week? No, but if we were playing champions league football, top international players and were a top 4-6 club then yes. Although as a saints fan, i enjoyed last season more than any for a long time so not overly fussed on returning to the happy clappy, corporate, plastic fan premier league in to much of a hurry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 I'm actually starting to get really ****ed off with all of this, both the action and the reaction... The club has behaved disgracefully. It's torn up it's own fans charter, lied and given fans no warning whatsoever that a valid payment option would be removed. The way some fans have mocked those people, who could quite easily have save money over the last few months but had been assured a valid payment option would be kept, is disgraceful. There are fans out there who are perfectly responsible with money but find themselves, funnily enough in the summer, with holidays to pay for etc not able to just magic £300-£400 out of their backsides. That's bad enough but the club has given them a month to find it else the prices go up. If you still haven't managed to magic that money up then you have until the 6th of August and then you won't get a season ticket at all! The club could have solved all of this by either a) Telling fans in January that they were not going to renewing the payment plan option or b) Offering half season tickets (no credit option there) The underlying threat here is that the club ripped up it's own fans charter, this pathetic excuse that it was "Last year's charter" is shocking, it's effectively saying, we have a commitment to you, but it's on a rolling basis and subject to change. How can you take anything they say seriously knowing they could renege on their word at any notice? To all those smart arses telling us to get a credit card, go game by game, stop moaning, stop rocking the boat, stop exerting your right to freedom of speech, I say this; don't come moaning to us then the club does something that annoys you. Please don't get upset if they do something that winds you up as we'll not listen. If you can't offer a sympathetic ear to people who are genuinely affected by this and genuinely upset at not being able to sit in their seat and renew their ticket, then don't speak at all... To all of those talking of boycotting and staging demonstrations, grow up. I may be unhappy at the tearing up of the fans charter and the stealth tax on tickets but lets not forget that we very nearly didn't have a club and if we have to pay more to ensure our club not just survives but flourishes, then so be it. We can't expect Leibherr to splash out millions of his own money into the club and then baulk at paying an extra £50 ourselves. This is going to be an amazing season and I for one won't miss for anything. I won't boycott the club, won't slag off Cortese or miss a game. I will however criticise the club if they do wrong and praise it when it does right. What they have done with prices is wrong but everything else they've done is right and to boycott the club for one mistake is an immense over-reaction.... If we don't learn from the past we're destined to make the same mistakes in the future. We allowed Lowe to mismanage the club to the point of oblivion and Pompey fans buried their heads in the sand when their sugar daddy mismanaged their club. The club ballsed up and need to answer to a sizeable section of the fanbase for their actions but lets not get too hysterical eh? Another excellent post Darren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 The club does not have to offer a payment scheme, it does not have to run a payment scheme. The club offers a service that you either can or can't afford or pay for. It is YOUR choice whether or not to pay for this service and whether or not the service can be justified. It is not YOUR seat, it is not YOUR ticket, it is the clubs. You have the option of leasing this seat off of them for a season if you can afford it. There is a lot in life i would like to buy, however do i p*ss and moan if the company does not make it affordable to me ?? No, i decide i cannot justify it or find a way to pay for it myself, such as a loan or CC or saving. I agree Darren W your post is well thought out and written but a lot of fans are currently acting like spoilt brats at the moment, we have a chance to play attractive football, spend money on new exciting players and move back towards the Prem, yet many are p*ssed off about an extra few quid. I agree the club seriously should have warned if the payment plan was being scrapped but it in no way HAS to provide that service. It is not your ticket/seat until it is paid for. Valid points about tickets and market forces "owns" a seat, but let's not forget one thing, this is a two way street, season tickets are tickets that are paid for up front. You show me any entertainment industry where tickets are sold up front like this, it's a market based on loyalty. People seem to missing this point, even with installments, by December at most, you are paying up front. All this talk of credit is muddying the waters, if the club expect people to pay for a whole season up front then they really should offer some sort of price plan, be it installments or half season tickets. They're really not doing us that much of a favour, we are buying their product, they're not giving it away... All the club has managed to do is dilute the season ticket database and annoy fans just because they are too lazy to police their seating. If fans are defaulting and still using their tickets then make it impossible to do, barcode the tickets, don't just take away the payment method from people who who need it. By any way shape or form, if at least 10% don't renew then that's sizeable.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 or based on demand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 To all of those talking of boycotting and staging demonstrations, grow up. I may be unhappy at the tearing up of the fans charter and the stealth tax on tickets but lets not forget that we very nearly didn't have a club and if we have to pay more to ensure our club not just survives but flourishes, then so be it. We can't expect Leibherr to splash out millions of his own money into the club and then baulk at paying an extra £50 ourselves. I wasn't advocating a boycott per se, but was suggesting that a way of recouping the money you've been ripped off by (either through not being able to pay for a season ticket in installments or from the ticket tax) is to cut back in other areas such as merchandise and programmes. I feel that Cortese has been unethical in what he has done so I have no problem in returning the favour by deliberately economising in other areas. By his actions Cortese has given fans the two fingers so he only has himself to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 I dubes forum breakdown is in full swing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 I dubes forum breakdown is in full swing.. If you're going to troll please do it in English Dulldayzzz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 I wasn't advocating a boycott per se, but was suggesting that a way of recouping the money you've been ripped off by (either through not being able to pay for a season ticket in installments or from the ticket tax) is to cut back in other areas such as merchandise and programmes. I feel that Cortese has been unethical in what he has done so I have no problem in returning the favour by deliberately economising in other areas. By his actions Cortese has given fans the two fingers so he only has himself to blame. Can anyone be sure that it is actually Cortese that has made this decision? Perhaps in an advanced grown-up management sort of way, he has given one of his senior managers ultimate responsibility for the deployment of ticketing policy and practice. Perhaps he is just being a strong Executive by standing by his managers decision? Have we seen any direct quotes from Cortese in terms of the decision? Not excusing the decision, but why is it that there are some people seemingly intent on bringing Cortese (our best CEO in decades) into disrepute for a relatively small matter in the grander scheme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 Can anyone be sure that it is actually Cortese that has made this decision? Perhaps in an advanced grown-up management sort of way, he has given one of his senior managers ultimate responsibility for the deployment of ticketing policy and practice. Perhaps he is just being a strong Executive by standing by his managers decision? Have we seen any direct quotes from Cortese in terms of the decision? Not excusing the decision, but why is it that there are some people seemingly intent on bringing Cortese (our best CEO in decades) into disrepute for a relatively small matter in the grander scheme? When my JPT final tickets hadn't arrived weeks after i'd payed for them I rang the ticket office and the girl I spoke to said they'd been inundated with calls enquiring as to why it was taking so long. I asked who had organised the selling arrangements and she said Nicola Cortese had taken personal charge. Based on this and the fact a ticket tax was introduced it's pretty obvious Cortese is behind the recent bad decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 Can anyone be sure that it is actually Cortese that has made this decision? Perhaps in an advanced grown-up management sort of way, he has given one of his senior managers ultimate responsibility for the deployment of ticketing policy and practice. Perhaps he is just being a strong Executive by standing by his managers decision? Have we seen any direct quotes from Cortese in terms of the decision? Not excusing the decision, but why is it that there are some people seemingly intent on bringing Cortese (our best CEO in decades) into disrepute for a relatively small matter in the grander scheme? If you were even slightly ITK ( I am not ITK, just well connected ) you would know that Cortese is not the sort of Chairman to let his managers, subbys etc get on with the job as they see fit. He is very much an Italian Andy Oldknow. He is very much a "Do it the Cortese way or f*ck off" sort of person. And I don't believe that one of the most respected ticket office managers in the football world came up with the Season ticket selling policy of a one month window, no payment plan and tickets not on sale till June 1st... for a start his staff will have been sitting with their fingers up their @rse with nothing to do for the last month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 Cortesse certainly advocates the booking fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulstersaint Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 Would the nonsense mentioned include silly posts about ginger-haired players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 Would the nonsense mentioned include silly posts about ginger-haired players? Wotsit all about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 June, 2010 Author Share Posted 5 June, 2010 Would the nonsense mentioned include silly posts about ginger-haired players? No, they are not nonsense but valid points made by my own bigotted viewpoint. If i had posted a hystrionic "OMG, not a ginger, i am never going to game again, this club is no different now to when Lowe was here" that would have been nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 Scientists in Sweden have come up with a solution to life's problem of what to do when you don't like what people say on a messageboard. ww.bbc.co.uk/thisisafakelink FWIW I like the drama. Tis like our very own soap opera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 To all those smart arses telling us to get a credit card, go game by game, stop moaning, stop rocking the boat, stop exerting your right to freedom of speech, I say this; don't come moaning to us then the club does something that annoys you. Please don't get upset if they do something that winds you up as we'll not listen. If you can't offer a sympathetic ear to people who are genuinely affected by this and genuinely upset at not being able to sit in their seat and renew their ticket, then don't speak at all... Hang on a minute people are allowed to disagree and come on here and say so. We have always been a moaning bunch of fans so I'm sure when something upsets me there will be loads of others who will agree and join in and there will be others that don't agree and who will probably tell me to wind my neck in, that's how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjinksie Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 :smt081 we are not going to be the new Chelsea!! With investment and decent managerment signing decent players we will end up a midtable premier league club best case, which might ocasionally over achieve and make the top 8 or have a decent cup run. Lets not get carried away! we wont have the success of chelsea, but will prob pay the same for a season ticket. Bradford are a good example of decent prices, they were about £150 last year and their verage would put them 6th in league 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 I agree with Turkish. Cant believe I jsut said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 Are you deliberately being a complete div? I was asking whther you'd be happy paying chelsea ticket prices. And you cant work out my answer from my earlier post ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfurdent Posted 6 June, 2010 Share Posted 6 June, 2010 And you cant work out my answer from my earlier post ? The grammar in this reply shouts volumes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 6 June, 2010 Share Posted 6 June, 2010 cant wait for the world cup / new shirt / new signings...give people something else to moan about ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 6 June, 2010 Author Share Posted 6 June, 2010 cant wait for the world cup / new shirt / new signings...give people something else to moan about ;-) I am particularly looking forward to the new kit coming out. Cant wait for the torrent of nonsense which people will spout about how **** it is, not a fitting tribute to our 125th anniversary etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 6 June, 2010 Share Posted 6 June, 2010 I am particularly looking forward to the new kit coming out. Cant wait for the torrent of nonsense which people will spout about how **** it is, not a fitting tribute to our 125th anniversary etc. I reckon the price will be at least a fiver more, I'll have a moan about that, even though I haven't bought a shirt for years. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 6 June, 2010 Author Share Posted 6 June, 2010 I reckon the price will be at least a fiver more, I'll have a moan about that, even though I haven't bought a shirt for years. :-) Hopefully, anything that annoys these goons is worth paying for, by the way, can i pay for it in installments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 6 June, 2010 Share Posted 6 June, 2010 I am particularly looking forward to the new kit coming out. Cant wait for the torrent of nonsense which people will spout about how **** it is, not a fitting tribute to our 125th anniversary etc. It's going to look like comic relief next season with all those red nose club crests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 6 June, 2010 Share Posted 6 June, 2010 can i pay for it in installments? I don't see why not. You can pay for playstation games and golf clubs in installments in Cash Convertors, so I don't see why SFC merchandise should be any different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 6 June, 2010 Share Posted 6 June, 2010 I don't see why not. You can pay for playstation games and golf clubs in installments in Cash Convertors, so I don't see why SFC merchandise should be any different. are you implying that Turkish shops in cash converters, or indicating that you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 6 June, 2010 Share Posted 6 June, 2010 The grammar in this reply shouts volumes. Tedious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 6 June, 2010 Share Posted 6 June, 2010 are you implying that Turkish shops in cash converters, or indicating that you do? Turkish does. Turkish also sells fake replica shirts ( as they all do ) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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