Lallana out for 6 weeks

[saintjay77]

Just seen a Twiter update from Official saints.

 

Wilkins confirms Lallana will be out for 6 weeks after having an Op on his knee.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

Not good, BUT could have been much worse.

[Deppo]

As the OP, I think that saintjay77 is all to blame for this. He should never have sat on his knee, knowing it was crocked.

[OVER THE HILL]

Big loss- our best two players so far this season Barney and Adam out missing for some time.

[jasoneuelllfanclub]

Cant have Guly on Left so I say bring Dickson or Mills in LM to hopefully get some decent crosses in for lambert and then use Guly in CM in place of Hammond against Rochdale although cant see Hammond being dropped. Need creativity even more so now Lallana out.

[CWD]

I expected much longer than that. It's a blow but at least he can still be a major influence on our season.

[alpine_saint]

Could have been a lot worse

[sfc4prem]

4-4-1-1 with Barney out for Rochdale?

 

--------------Davis--------------

Butts---Fonte---Martin---Harding

Punch--Morgan--Deano--Dickson

--------------Guly---------------

------------Lambert-------------

[Bartosz Bialkowski]

Weston Saint already told us this, so not a surprise

[saintjay77]

As the OP, I think that saintjay77 is all to blame for this. He should never have sat on his knee, knowing it was crocked.

 

As someone else has just said, Weston Saint broke the news so it must have been him knee sitting.

 

Not me gov. Honest.

[Chez]

let's hope the operation was a complete success and the recovery goes smoothly. I wonder if the new manager will look at Holmes again?

[thefuriousb]

Of note we have had 3 or 4 players come out of pre season with injuries that have either kept them out of the side to start with, or have now had to go for an op already having not been able to continue.

 

Is this a coincidence or something else to consider with APs dismissal and rumours of player unrest?

 

A genuine concern and am not trynig to start another conspiracy theory....

[Thorpe-le-Saint]

Could have been a lot worse, hopefully this surgery will see the end of his knee problem.

[shurlock]

Dickson will come in and do a decent job - looked excellent after a dodgy preseason. Obviously not as skillful as AL but has a motor and is possibly the only player in the squad happy to go to the byline. Whatever happens do not play Guly on the left but do give him a decent run-out in the middle.

[benjii]

4-4-1-1 with Barney out for Rochdale?

 

--------------Davis--------------

Butts---Fonte---Martin---Harding

Punch--Morgan--Deano--Dickson

--------------Guly---------------

------------Lambert-------------

 

That's the team I would pick f'sure. No concerns about the left side. Whilst Lallana is obvioulsy class, Dickson was very good against Bristol Rovers and will get dangerous balls into the box. The concern around Adam being out is whether we will get enough bodies into the box - that's where Punch, Hammond and Gully need to step up.

 

The only question is whether to stick Gully in or stay 4-4-2 and play Connolly. Connolly is a very good player but can we really rely on him as a first 11 starter? I think we need to establish a settled team asap for the next three or four games. If Gully turns out to be gash then by all means, drop him and stick Connolly in but I think we should give him a start in his best position and see what he can do.

[Lets B Avenue]

let's hope the operation was a complete success and the recovery goes smoothly. I wonder if the new manager will look at Holmes again?

 

He's , surprise surprise, injured again.

[benjii]

Surely Mills must be ahead of Holmes in the LW pecking order as well now?

 

I liked Holmes but sadly I think he's going to be one of those players with ability who never quite manages to crack it anywhere. Bit like me...

[Shroppie]

Cant have Guly on Left so I say bring Dickson or Mills in LM to hopefully get some decent crosses in for lambert and then use Guly in CM in place of Hammond against Rochdale although cant see Hammond being dropped. Need creativity even more so now Lallana out.

Agree about Guly but would move to 451 with him playing in the hole, keeping Hammond and Spiderman in CM. Probably Dickson LM. (just seen Benjii's post and we agree so it must be good.)

Edited 2 September, 2010 by Shroppie
Belated reading of other posts

[Golden Balls]

Expected worse. I agree we should put Dickson there and play Guly behind Lambert

[Fitzhugh Fella]

Now Lambert needs to sort his groin out as it is clearly effecting his performances and fitness.

In Connolly we trust!

[Chez]

if Lambert was still struggling with his groin injury why did he play on Tuesday? Is this groin injury actually still going or is this just people thinking because he has not played brilliantly so far that he must be still injured?

[a1ex2001]

Given our terrible record of star players being 'out for 6 weeks for an op' never reappearing I shall not be holding my breath.

[derry]

if Lambert was still struggling with his groin injury why did he play on Tuesday? Is this groin injury actually still going or is this just people thinking because he has not played brilliantly so far that he must be still injured?

 

He stll has the Groin injury and is limited in training and struggling to get weight down. Lallana was having pain killing injections (not cortisone) before the match and at half time. I don't know but it could be the same for Lambert. He needs to get it right before he plays again.

[trousers]

Get a couple of Prem fringe players in on loan pronto Mr Cortese

 

FFS

[jasoneuelllfanclub]

He stll has the Groin injury and is limited in training and struggling to get weight down. Lallana was having pain killing injections (not cortisone) before the match and at half time. I don't know but it could be the same for Lambert. He needs to get it right before he plays again.

 

If this is the case then why play him against Swindon in the JPT? Surely JPT was not a piority this season! Last year we had much bigger squad so we had the likes of Antonio and Papa to come into the team who would make a difference. The bench this year is much weaker imo therefore we should protect the likes of Lambert if they are carrying injuries.

[derry]

If this is the case then why play him against Swindon in the JPT? Surely JPT was not a piority this season! Last year we had much bigger squad so we had the likes of Antonio and Papa to come into the team who would make a difference. The bench this year is much weaker imo therefore we should protect the likes of Lambert if they are carrying injuries.

 

This came through a first team player. I don't like it either, now Barnard has given us few options.

[up and away]

I don't fully understand the position with Lallana, especially as we know what an important player he is to us. Bearing in mind this is a long term niggle, why did he not have exploratory surgery during the off season? Nothing wrong and he would be unaffected by the time he came back from holiday? Then knowing he is still carrying that niggle, why play 90 minutes against Bolton?

 

Something just does not add up with Lallana and I would like to hear the full explanation from the medical staff.

[Weston Saint]

I don't fully understand the position with Lallana, especially as we know what an important player he is to us. Bearing in mind this is a long term niggle, why did he not have exploratory surgery during the off season? Nothing wrong and he would be unaffected by the time he came back from holiday? Then knowing he is still carrying that niggle, why play 90 minutes against Bolton?

 

Something just does not add up with Lallana and I would like to hear the full explanation from the medical staff.

I have the full story. I have posted it on here. There is no cover up. He and the club were acting on independent medical advice.

[S-Clarke]

I don't fully understand the position with Lallana, especially as we know what an important player he is to us. Bearing in mind this is a long term niggle, why did he not have exploratory surgery during the off season? Nothing wrong and he would be unaffected by the time he came back from holiday? Then knowing he is still carrying that niggle, why play 90 minutes against Bolton?

 

Something just does not add up with Lallana and I would like to hear the full explanation from the medical staff.

 

The club seeked advise from a medical professional during pre-season, who said he could either find out what the problem was and operate on it there and then (6 weeks out) - or as he recommended by the doctor, let Adam carry on playing, nurse him through, and bring him back to me if he breaks down, which he did against B Rovers. It did seem to be clearing up slightly until the rovers game, but 6 weeks is nothing for a knee injury so i think he can count himself lucky with that.

[up and away]

The club seeked advise from a medical professional during pre-season, who said he could either find out what the problem was and operate on it there and then (6 weeks out) - or as he recommended by the doctor, let Adam carry on playing, nurse him through, and bring him back to me if he breaks down, which he did against B Rovers. It did seem to be clearing up slightly until the rovers game, but 6 weeks is nothing for a knee injury so i think he can count himself lucky with that.

 

I still believe there there are some questions remaining here. If Lallana had a keyhole inspection at the end of last season, it's not unknown for him to be ready for training by the time he comes back from holiday? If there is more required, he would be out for longer, as the 6 weeks now. Either way I can see this as a win win situation, with Adam having a slight stiffness in his knee during the first week of his holiday as the worst scenario?

 

And again the full 90 minutes against Bolton does not make sense at the moment? I am not trying to say there is any cover up here, but this does not seem the best plan of action regarding the failure to do an inspection or the subsequent over use when in pain?

[Andy_Porter]

Such a shame to lose him at a critical point, I can see the next six weeks being a bit of a slog.

[saintchristine]

I have the full story. I have posted it on here. There is no cover up. He and the club were acting on independent medical advice.

 

Yes, you also posted this :

 

"The problem with comments on forums and in the media is that very few know the full picture.

 

The late Marcus Liebherr and Nicola Cortese had a business plan. Everyone who was employed were expected to buy into that plan 100%. That meant all aspects not just ones they liked.

 

Part of that was to stop internal politics. Work as a team each with his/her part to play in realising that plan within the timescales. "

 

Firstly most of the comments on here are actually opinions, people trying to make sense of something which invariably the club refuse to clarify. It seems the fans are part of that "business plan" and are also expected to toe the line.

It would practically be impossible to employ someone as a manager of a Football club without at times them disagreeing with the owner/chairman, on that basis it was very stupid to employ Pardew in the 1st place, in fact there are very few managers who would take the job if they had to merely act as a glove puppet. We simply are not talking about say a toy making factory or a Furniture business but something that is essentially unique and which simply cannot be run by one person and particularly one with such a lack of knowledge not only regarding the business but also the environment in which it is based.

Lallana needed an operation several weeks ago. Pardew, who Lallana has made clear was a major factor in him staying, also wanted the operation done though it is true to say the medical advice was unclear. However, in most instances the player, indeed sportsmen and women in general, have a very good idea of what is best for them. In spite of this the operation was delayed, as we now know it has gone ahead but in the meantime the player has continued to play !

There isn't really anything to cover up other than, surprise, surprise, another disagreement between Cortese and Pardew and there have been a number. Suggestions that Pardew wasn't wanted by Markus Liebherr are so wide of the mark it's untrue. Cortese wanted Pardew out and as with other staff who dared to even say hello to him was sacked as soon as it was possible to do so, the lack of any statement from Pardew is entirely due to Cortese insisting it was included as part of the severance "package" and Pardew only agreeing after certain other conditions were included. Money was NOT a major issue as has been stated by some sources.

That really explains the timing but in the meantime Pardew continued to do his job and the end result was a 4-0 win though Pardew already knew by then he was soon to be sacked. Other people can decide if Pardew was really disinterested by that time but a 4-0 win suggests otherwise.

It is very likely Lallana will leave in January and he may not be the only one, the new manager, when he is appointed, will leave the fans totally underwhelmed. The internal politics Cortese was so keen to stop have abated though only because he has got rid of those who dared to disagree. I can really only liken the "politics" of this club now to those in say somewhere like Iran or probably more accurately to those in the hilariously named Democratic Republic of the Congo. Whatever the comparison the lunatic really has taken over this particular asylum and sadly it will continue and the fans will continue to be scorned.

[THEVMAN]

I still believe there there are some questions remaining here. If Lallana had a keyhole inspection at the end of last season, it's not unknown for him to be ready for training by the time he comes back from holiday? If there is more required, he would be out for longer, as the 6 weeks now. Either way I can see this as a win win situation, with Adam having a slight stiffness in his knee during the first week of his holiday as the worst scenario?

 

And again the full 90 minutes against Bolton does not make sense at the moment? I am not trying to say there is any cover up here, but this does not seem the best plan of action regarding the failure to do an inspection or the subsequent over use when in pain?

Your right to assume there is no cover up, Adams knee just got to the stage where it just needed sorted out properly as he couldnt continue playing through the pain barrier.this has been covered by Western Saint.

[sfc4prem]

Yes, you also posted this :

 

"The problem with comments on forums and in the media is that very few know the full picture.

 

The late Marcus Liebherr and Nicola Cortese had a business plan. Everyone who was employed were expected to buy into that plan 100%. That meant all aspects not just ones they liked.

 

Part of that was to stop internal politics. Work as a team each with his/her part to play in realising that plan within the timescales. "

 

Firstly most of the comments on here are actually opinions, people trying to make sense of something which invariably the club refuse to clarify. It seems the fans are part of that "business plan" and are also expected to toe the line.

It would practically be impossible to employ someone as a manager of a Football club without at times them disagreeing with the owner/chairman, on that basis it was very stupid to employ Pardew in the 1st place, in fact there are very few managers who would take the job if they had to merely act as a glove puppet. We simply are not talking about say a toy making factory or a Furniture business but something that is essentially unique and which simply cannot be run by one person and particularly one with such a lack of knowledge not only regarding the business but also the environment in which it is based.

Lallana needed an operation several weeks ago. Pardew, who Lallana has made clear was a major factor in him staying, also wanted the operation done though it is true to say the medical advice was unclear. However, in most instances the player, indeed sportsmen and women in general, have a very good idea of what is best for them. In spite of this the operation was delayed, as we now know it has gone ahead but in the meantime the player has continued to play !

There isn't really anything to cover up other than, surprise, surprise, another disagreement between Cortese and Pardew and there have been a number. Suggestions that Pardew wasn't wanted by Markus Liebherr are so wide of the mark it's untrue. Cortese wanted Pardew out and as with other staff who dared to even say hello to him was sacked as soon as it was possible to do so, the lack of any statement from Pardew is entirely due to Cortese insisting it was included as part of the severance "package" and Pardew only agreeing after certain other conditions were included. Money was NOT a major issue as has been stated by some sources.

That really explains the timing but in the meantime Pardew continued to do his job and the end result was a 4-0 win though Pardew already knew by then he was soon to be sacked. Other people can decide if Pardew was really disinterested by that time but a 4-0 win suggests otherwise.

It is very likely Lallana will leave in January and he may not be the only one, the new manager, when he is appointed, will leave the fans totally underwhelmed. The internal politics Cortese was so keen to stop have abated though only because he has got rid of those who dared to disagree. I can really only liken the "politics" of this club now to those in say somewhere like Iran or probably more accurately to those in the hilariously named Democratic Republic of the Congo. Whatever the comparison the lunatic really has taken over this particular asylum and sadly it will continue and the fans will continue to be scorned.

 

We all know Lallana will most probably leave in January if we aren't near the top 2, but how are you so sure that other players are going to leave too?

 

Either your a WUM or ITKer. If what you say is true, then basically Cortese will be a hinderance to this club's progression. I don't neccessarily believe what you are saying, but reading that makes my day just that little bit more depressing.

[Weston Saint]

Yes, you also posted this :

 

"The problem with comments on forums and in the media is that very few know the full picture.

 

The late Marcus Liebherr and Nicola Cortese had a business plan. Everyone who was employed were expected to buy into that plan 100%. That meant all aspects not just ones they liked.

 

Part of that was to stop internal politics. Work as a team each with his/her part to play in realising that plan within the timescales. "

 

Firstly most of the comments on here are actually opinions, people trying to make sense of something which invariably the club refuse to clarify. It seems the fans are part of that "business plan" and are also expected to toe the line.

It would practically be impossible to employ someone as a manager of a Football club without at times them disagreeing with the owner/chairman, on that basis it was very stupid to employ Pardew in the 1st place, in fact there are very few managers who would take the job if they had to merely act as a glove puppet. We simply are not talking about say a toy making factory or a Furniture business but something that is essentially unique and which simply cannot be run by one person and particularly one with such a lack of knowledge not only regarding the business but also the environment in which it is based.

Lallana needed an operation several weeks ago. Pardew, who Lallana has made clear was a major factor in him staying, also wanted the operation done though it is true to say the medical advice was unclear. However, in most instances the player, indeed sportsmen and women in general, have a very good idea of what is best for them. In spite of this the operation was delayed, as we now know it has gone ahead but in the meantime the player has continued to play !

There isn't really anything to cover up other than, surprise, surprise, another disagreement between Cortese and Pardew and there have been a number. Suggestions that Pardew wasn't wanted by Markus Liebherr are so wide of the mark it's untrue. Cortese wanted Pardew out and as with other staff who dared to even say hello to him was sacked as soon as it was possible to do so, the lack of any statement from Pardew is entirely due to Cortese insisting it was included as part of the severance "package" and Pardew only agreeing after certain other conditions were included. Money was NOT a major issue as has been stated by some sources.

That really explains the timing but in the meantime Pardew continued to do his job and the end result was a 4-0 win though Pardew already knew by then he was soon to be sacked. Other people can decide if Pardew was really disinterested by that time but a 4-0 win suggests otherwise.

It is very likely Lallana will leave in January and he may not be the only one, the new manager, when he is appointed, will leave the fans totally underwhelmed. The internal politics Cortese was so keen to stop have abated though only because he has got rid of those who dared to disagree. I can really only liken the "politics" of this club now to those in say somewhere like Iran or probably more accurately to those in the hilariously named Democratic Republic of the Congo. Whatever the comparison the lunatic really has taken over this particular asylum and sadly it will continue and the fans will continue to be scorned.

I think it best I do not respond to this post. I cannot comment on your assertioins relating to Cortese or Pardew because I am not privy to such information, and nor should I be. I can however say there are inaccuracies in your comments regarding Adam Lallana. I will simply leave it at that and move on.

[trousers]

Yes, you also posted this :

 

"The problem with comments on forums and in the media is that very few know the full picture.

 

The late Marcus Liebherr and Nicola Cortese had a business plan. Everyone who was employed were expected to buy into that plan 100%. That meant all aspects not just ones they liked.

 

Part of that was to stop internal politics. Work as a team each with his/her part to play in realising that plan within the timescales. "

 

Firstly most of the comments on here are actually opinions, people trying to make sense of something which invariably the club refuse to clarify. It seems the fans are part of that "business plan" and are also expected to toe the line.

It would practically be impossible to employ someone as a manager of a Football club without at times them disagreeing with the owner/chairman, on that basis it was very stupid to employ Pardew in the 1st place, in fact there are very few managers who would take the job if they had to merely act as a glove puppet. We simply are not talking about say a toy making factory or a Furniture business but something that is essentially unique and which simply cannot be run by one person and particularly one with such a lack of knowledge not only regarding the business but also the environment in which it is based.

Lallana needed an operation several weeks ago. Pardew, who Lallana has made clear was a major factor in him staying, also wanted the operation done though it is true to say the medical advice was unclear. However, in most instances the player, indeed sportsmen and women in general, have a very good idea of what is best for them. In spite of this the operation was delayed, as we now know it has gone ahead but in the meantime the player has continued to play !

There isn't really anything to cover up other than, surprise, surprise, another disagreement between Cortese and Pardew and there have been a number. Suggestions that Pardew wasn't wanted by Markus Liebherr are so wide of the mark it's untrue. Cortese wanted Pardew out and as with other staff who dared to even say hello to him was sacked as soon as it was possible to do so, the lack of any statement from Pardew is entirely due to Cortese insisting it was included as part of the severance "package" and Pardew only agreeing after certain other conditions were included. Money was NOT a major issue as has been stated by some sources.

That really explains the timing but in the meantime Pardew continued to do his job and the end result was a 4-0 win though Pardew already knew by then he was soon to be sacked. Other people can decide if Pardew was really disinterested by that time but a 4-0 win suggests otherwise.

It is very likely Lallana will leave in January and he may not be the only one, the new manager, when he is appointed, will leave the fans totally underwhelmed. The internal politics Cortese was so keen to stop have abated though only because he has got rid of those who dared to disagree. I can really only liken the "politics" of this club now to those in say somewhere like Iran or probably more accurately to those in the hilariously named Democratic Republic of the Congo. Whatever the comparison the lunatic really has taken over this particular asylum and sadly it will continue and the fans will continue to be scorned.

 

Hi,

Just an observation but your post comes across as someone who knows what is going on first hand rather than being written by someone who is interpreting the situation from a distance. Would that be a fair observation?

 

Cheers

[Deppo]

Yes, you also posted this :

 

"The problem with comments on forums and in the media is that very few know the full picture.

 

The late Marcus Liebherr and Nicola Cortese had a business plan. Everyone who was employed were expected to buy into that plan 100%. That meant all aspects not just ones they liked.

 

Part of that was to stop internal politics. Work as a team each with his/her part to play in realising that plan within the timescales. "

 

Firstly most of the comments on here are actually opinions, people trying to make sense of something which invariably the club refuse to clarify. It seems the fans are part of that "business plan" and are also expected to toe the line.

It would practically be impossible to employ someone as a manager of a Football club without at times them disagreeing with the owner/chairman, on that basis it was very stupid to employ Pardew in the 1st place, in fact there are very few managers who would take the job if they had to merely act as a glove puppet. We simply are not talking about say a toy making factory or a Furniture business but something that is essentially unique and which simply cannot be run by one person and particularly one with such a lack of knowledge not only regarding the business but also the environment in which it is based.

Lallana needed an operation several weeks ago. Pardew, who Lallana has made clear was a major factor in him staying, also wanted the operation done though it is true to say the medical advice was unclear. However, in most instances the player, indeed sportsmen and women in general, have a very good idea of what is best for them. In spite of this the operation was delayed, as we now know it has gone ahead but in the meantime the player has continued to play !

There isn't really anything to cover up other than, surprise, surprise, another disagreement between Cortese and Pardew and there have been a number. Suggestions that Pardew wasn't wanted by Markus Liebherr are so wide of the mark it's untrue. Cortese wanted Pardew out and as with other staff who dared to even say hello to him was sacked as soon as it was possible to do so, the lack of any statement from Pardew is entirely due to Cortese insisting it was included as part of the severance "package" and Pardew only agreeing after certain other conditions were included. Money was NOT a major issue as has been stated by some sources.

That really explains the timing but in the meantime Pardew continued to do his job and the end result was a 4-0 win though Pardew already knew by then he was soon to be sacked. Other people can decide if Pardew was really disinterested by that time but a 4-0 win suggests otherwise.

It is very likely Lallana will leave in January and he may not be the only one, the new manager, when he is appointed, will leave the fans totally underwhelmed. The internal politics Cortese was so keen to stop have abated though only because he has got rid of those who dared to disagree. I can really only liken the "politics" of this club now to those in say somewhere like Iran or probably more accurately to those in the hilariously named Democratic Republic of the Congo. Whatever the comparison the lunatic really has taken over this particular asylum and sadly it will continue and the fans will continue to be scorned.

 

You are really wide of the mark on a number of assertions here. Do I know you?

[Give it to Ron]

I must admit SaintChristine post now has me even more worried we will appoint Wilkins!!!!

Coupled with Hammonds interview I just hope this is all bull.

[benjii]

Hi,

Just an observation but your post comes across as someone who knows what is going on first hand rather than being written by someone who is interpreting the situation from a distance. Would that be a fair observation?

 

Cheers

 

Disgruntled ex-employee IMO.

[saintchristine]

Where to start ?

Firstly I post on here very rarely though I am aware of many of the threads. I am neither an ex-employee nor am I disgruntled though fair to say I am, like many people, unhappy at the current plight of our club. I'm very aware that certain people claim to be ITK but almost invariably they are not though one poster in particular clearly has a very good insight into the workings of the club and most posts he makes turn out to be very accurate.

Weston Saint, if you believe there are inaccuracies in my statements regarding Lallana then that is fine, I'm as certain as I can be that based on information given to me by people involved in football who know Lallana well and certainly better than you or I that the position is as stated.

I'm not in the business of winding people up, I have far better things to do. Time should provide an indication as to whether certain points I make are accurate or not, I would love to be wrong about certain things and especially the new manager but I would be amazed if I am.

[derry]

Where to start ?

Firstly I post on here very rarely though I am aware of many of the threads. I am neither an ex-employee nor am I disgruntled though fair to say I am, like many people, unhappy at the current plight of our club. I'm very aware that certain people claim to be ITK but almost invariably they are not though one poster in particular clearly has a very good insight into the workings of the club and most posts he makes turn out to be very accurate.

Weston Saint, if you believe there are inaccuracies in my statements regarding Lallana then that is fine, I'm as certain as I can be that based on information given to me by people involved in football who know Lallana well and certainly better than you or I that the position is as stated.

I'm not in the business of winding people up, I have far better things to do. Time should provide an indication as to whether certain points I make are accurate or not, I would love to be wrong about certain things and especially the new manager but I would be amazed if I am.

 

Weston Saint is a friend of David Lallana, Adams father, EV man is connected to the family but we are stll working out who.

[forever a red and white]

If they are going to play Guly they may as well play him in the centre where it sounds like he will be twice as useful as out wide, at least give the bloke a chance.

[derry]

If they are going to play Guly they may as well play him in the centre where it sounds like he will be twice as useful as out wide, at least give the bloke a chance.

 

Absolutely, Schneiderlin is giving us nothing at the moment. Personally I'd like to see Puncheon alongside De Prado with Chamberlain and Dickson wide and no holding midfielders. What do we need holding midfielders for when the opposition is coming to SMS and packing the penalty area. It's pace and penetration we want not trying to break the front door down.

[benjii]

Where to start ?

Firstly I post on here very rarely though I am aware of many of the threads. I am neither an ex-employee nor am I disgruntled though fair to say I am, like many people, unhappy at the current plight of our club. I'm very aware that certain people claim to be ITK but almost invariably they are not though one poster in particular clearly has a very good insight into the workings of the club and most posts he makes turn out to be very accurate.

Weston Saint, if you believe there are inaccuracies in my statements regarding Lallana then that is fine, I'm as certain as I can be that based on information given to me by people involved in football who know Lallana well and certainly better than you or I that the position is as stated.

I'm not in the business of winding people up, I have far better things to do. Time should provide an indication as to whether certain points I make are accurate or not, I would love to be wrong about certain things and especially the new manager but I would be amazed if I am.

 

Even if the new man is Mourinho or Wenger there'll be some merry band of nutjobs moaning about it on here so you should get your, "I told you so", moment come what may!

[latter day saint]

Absolutely, Schneiderlin is giving us nothing at the moment. Personally I'd like to see Puncheon alongside De Prado with Chamberlain and Dickson wide and no holding midfielders. What do we need holding midfielders for when the opposition is coming to SMS and packing the penalty area. It's pace and penetration we want not trying to break the front door down.

like the idea of that in midfield but wot if the opposition actualy decide to give us a game,rather than sit in there half of the pitch? think Wilkins has said Rochdale are a good footballing side,so expect them to have a lot of the ball. hopefully he was just being polite & we will thump them

[Andy_Porter]

Absolutely, Schneiderlin is giving us nothing at the moment. Personally I'd like to see Puncheon alongside De Prado with Chamberlain and Dickson wide and no holding midfielders. What do we need holding midfielders for when the opposition is coming to SMS and packing the penalty area. It's pace and penetration we want not trying to break the front door down.

 

And what happens when they realise we have absolutely no midfield and there are just huge gaps everywhere? we would get shat on if we played that midfield. Maybe those four with one upfront and either Hammond or Schneiderlin behind them - but to go 4-4-2 with that would be suicide.

[Legod Third Coming]

Even if the new man is Mourinho or Wenger there'll be some merry band of nutjobs moaning about it on here so you should get your, "I told you so", moment come what may!

 

Fecking hell, we have some moron fans but if you can find a man alive who has purchased a ticket to watch Southampton play who would be unhappy with either of those managers, I will show you a candidate for our local village idiot, or perhaps the next Chairman of Southampton FC...

[chrisobee]

Even if the new man is Mourinho or Wenger there'll be some merry band of nutjobs moaning about it on here so you should get your, "I told you so", moment come what may!

 

Blimey, could you have not highlighted the main point you were referring to a little larger, I can barely read it

However, we are not going to get Mourinho, Wenger or anyone of that ilk. I even saw a reference to Marcello Lippi somewhere !

I neither know nor care who is wrong, who is right, who might be ITK, who isn't ITK. I am capable of deciding for myself based on the actual facts available as to my own views on a subject. I'm not hopeful we'll get a manager I am keen on based on what I KNOW and is freely available to all. But football is full of surprises and maybe I'll be wrong, I fervently hope so in so far as I have any hope left !

[teamsaint]

sorry, I just don't buy the " lallana is only here because of Pardew " line.

 

It may well be that AP persuaded him to sign, (although I can't recall if he signed his new contact before AP joined, ) but really, who is to say that he won't get on like a house on fire with the new boss.

 

If a deal comes along that suits Adam (and maybe his advisors) he will go. If not , he won't. And with his contact starting to run down , financially he will be able to get a better deal elsewhere next summer,(1 years left at that point?) should he want to go.

[trousers]

I'm as certain as I can be that based on information given to me by people involved in football who know Lallana well and certainly better than you or I that the position is as stated

 

But your original post was written in the style of someone who was directly involved in the club rather than someone who knows "people involved in football".

 

With all due respect, and having observed the "ITK" culture on here over the last 5 years or so, you appear to have fallen into the classic 'ITK' trap: writing in a 'definitive' style rather than a 'reportive' style.

 

Just an observation. No offence intended.