Hamilton Saint Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 (edited) I'm surprised nobody has started one yet, so let me take the initiative. Here's a place, then, to express positive thoughts on the many good things that Alan Pardew did for the club during his short period here. If you have nothing positive to contribute, please save the negative vibes for other more appropriate threads. Meanwhile, I'd like to take the lead by acknowledging the excellent job Pardew did in revitalising the squad. He and his back-room team brought in a great group of players (whether or not they have yet to fully demonstrate their potential here). He also improved the play of several chronic under-performers. From the beginning of his tenure at Saints, Pardew emphasised the need to establish a winning mentality amongst the team, and by the end of last season he certainly succeeded in that task. Pardew also excelled in communicating with the fans via the press. He was an articulate bloke, and always focused on the key issues of the moment with honest opinions and a refreshing lack of the usual "gaffer" cliches. Presumably, he did the same in communicating with the players. Of course, nobody's perfect, and in retrospect one could suggest a fair number of "if onlys" and "what ifs". But overall he has a lot to be proud of. Your positive thoughts about Mr. Pardew? Edited 6 September, 2010 by Hamilton Saint adding picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocco boxo Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 Won us a cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 I guess the messages of appreciation for Pardew came in the form of all the "WHAT THE F**K? WHY THE BLOODY HELL HAS HE BEEN SACKED?? :frown:" comments which were posted in the AP has been sacked thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil the Saint Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?24803-Thanks-amp-Good-Luck-Alan-Pardew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 He's gone. Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musesaint Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 When, and if, we know exactly why he was sacked we can decide whether we do want to appreciate him .....or not From what I have been told (if true) he thoroughly deserved the boot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 He's gone. Get over it. Yep. And people like Hamilton Saint chanting "There's Only One Alan Pardew" during the game arent helping the f**king team either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red and White Army Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 And people like Hamilton Saint chanting "There's Only One Alan Pardew" during the game arent helping the f**king team either. Neither are you. Try going to some games and putting money into the club before criticizing those who do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 Old news. Move on. Same applies to other thread. My opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paris Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 Should still be here imho ............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 Neither are you. Try going to some games and putting money into the club before criticizing those who do. Lol, so f***ing true. And before anyone mentions my location I went to the first four home games this season. I do agree with his point about singing AP's name though, he's gone now, it doesn't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 Thanks for everything - all the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 I thought he was the best since Strachan and only Bates, McMenemy and Nicholl (another one that we didn't appreciate till he was gone) ahead of him. Not one of his signings was a bad one and he put a great footballing team together. I only hope NC's new WOW manager lives up to everyone's hopes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 I was never his greatest fan from the word go. But I do think he would have promoted us this season, and thanks to Clotese, i don't think that is so likely now. It's amazing how fickle fans are. You couldn't say a word of critisism about AP before he was sacked without being shot down with abuse on this site, now he's gone it's open season on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 I was never his greatest fan from the word go. But I do think he would have promoted us this season, and thanks to Clotese, i don't think that is so likely now. It's amazing how fickle fans are. You couldn't say a word of critisism about AP before he was sacked without being shot down with abuse on this site, now he's gone it's open season on him. Agree completely, my man. Only a few of us have been honest and consistent, it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 Most of the **** on on here about AP is either opinion or rumour. Here in black and white is one stat that can't be disproved Alan pardew was the ninth best performing mananager in all four leagues last season http://www.leaguemanagers.com/manage...otal&x=20&y=11 he got that stat by winning matches whether you liked/dis-liked the way he looked his teams playing style or his love of wags are irrelevant he got results and was one of the 10 top managers in England last season on that basis I'd have backed him to get us promoted this season. You can argue he had loads of cash resources it doesn't matter he would have had the same resources this year and no one claims sir Alex is **** becuase Man U have loads of money. If you want a better manager look at the list there are eight options above him. At the end of the day you want a manager who gets more good results than bad and AP was that. It's over now done I'll support the next manager when he comes (well as long as it's not Wilkins or Reed) but my opinion is we could have shot ourselves in the foot this season only time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaford Saint Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 Most of the **** on on here about AP is either opinion or rumour. Here in black and white is one stat that can't be disproved Alan pardew was the ninth best performing mananager in all four leagues last season http://www.leaguemanagers.com/manage...otal&x=20&y=11 he got that stat by winning matches whether you liked/dis-liked the way he looked his teams playing style or his love of wags are irrelevant he got results and was one of the 10 top managers in England last season on that basis I'd have backed him to get us promoted this season. You can argue he had loads of cash resources it doesn't matter he would have had the same resources this year and no one claims sir Alex is **** becuase Man U have loads of money. If you want a better manager look at the list there are eight options above him. At the end of the day you want a manager who gets more good results than bad and AP was that. It's over now done I'll support the next manager when he comes (well as long as it's not Wilkins or Reed) but my opinion is we could have shot ourselves in the foot this season only time will tell. I hadn't realised that he was as successful as that....it just goes to show how biased some on here are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 - Paul Lambert joined Norwich 4 weeks later than Pardew joined Saints - Paul Lambert didn't have £3m+ to spend, Pardew did - Take 10 points off Norwich and they would still be 1st, take 10 points off Saints and they are 7th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 - Paul Lambert joined Norwich 4 weeks later than Pardew joined Saints - Paul Lambert didn't have £3m+ to spend, Pardew did - Take 10 points off Norwich and they would still be 1st, take 10 points off Saints and they are 7th All you are saying is Paul Lambert was possibly better, that doesn't prove anything. No one has any idea how minus 10 points would have affected Norwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaford Saint Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 The acid test will be whether Alan Pardew gets another job and I guess what team and which division they are in. I suspect he is more highly thought of by those within the game than he is by the Saints fans, but that's down to the tendancy of Saints fans to see the negative where ever possible. A lot of Saints can't even think for themselves. Presumably any chairman who employs Mr P will be putting his money where his mouth is. There's 80 or so managers in the 4 leagues and I reckon he is somewhere in the top 15 of those. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 All you are saying is Paul Lambert was possibly better, that doesn't prove anything. No one has any idea how minus 10 points would have affected Norwich. Nor did Norwich have the turmoil of Administration / being close to going out of business forever. And dont anyone kid themselves they did not have decent money for wages etc. Check their crowd numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 6 September, 2010 Author Share Posted 6 September, 2010 The minister announces at the funeral, "Would anyone have a few words of eulogy to say about the departed". An admirer of the deceased gets up and begins, "I only knew Alan for a short while ..." But he is cut short when someone yells from the back, "He's dead, get over it". Another person pipes up, "Well, in the interest of balance, could I just point out what a ***** he was sometimes". "Yeah", shouts a man from the back, "what's with the sycophantic crap". The minister rolls his eyes and thinks, "Oh dear, why do I bother? People just don't understand the point of a eulogy these days. And I thought these people were friends and family?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 I hadn't realised that he was as successful as that....it just goes to show how biased some on here are. Funnily enough a lot of people seem to have ignored this fact, if people admit AP might of actually being doing a decent job they might have to admit NC might have made a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 The minister announces at the funeral, "Would anyone have a few words of eulogy to say about the departed". An admirer of the deceased gets up and begins, "I only knew Alan for a short while ..." But he is cut short when someone yells from the back, "He's dead, get over it". Another person pipes up, "Well, in the interest of balance, could I just point out what a ***** he was sometimes". "Yeah", shouts a man from the back, "what's with the sycophantic crap". The minister rolls his eyes and thinks, "Oh dear, why do I bother? People just don't understand the point of a eulogy these days. And I thought these people were friends and family?" Did Pardew die? I must have missed it. In that case, I am deeply sad that he has departed this mortal coil. Man has but a short time to spend upon this earth etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 Funnily enough a lot of people seem to have ignored this fact, if people admit AP might of actually being doing a decent job they might have to admit NC might have made a mistake. What? In the same way that you are prepared to paper over the reasons why Cortese dismissed Pardew without knowing them? Anyway, ninth most successful manager in the country with a team in the 3rd division, plenty of money available and a Premiership quality set-up? That site is not available, but I don't need to even look at it to know that it is not a level playing field and that you can produce statistics to prove anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 Most of the **** on on here about AP is either opinion or rumour. Here in black and white is one stat that can't be disproved Alan pardew was the ninth best performing mananager in all four leagues last season http://www.leaguemanagers.com/manage...otal&x=20&y=11 he got that stat by winning matches whether you liked/dis-liked the way he looked his teams playing style or his love of wags are irrelevant he got results and was one of the 10 top managers in England last season on that basis I'd have backed him to get us promoted this season. You can argue he had loads of cash resources it doesn't matter he would have had the same resources this year and no one claims sir Alex is **** becuase Man U have loads of money. If you want a better manager look at the list there are eight options above him. At the end of the day you want a manager who gets more good results than bad and AP was that. It's over now done I'll support the next manager when he comes (well as long as it's not Wilkins or Reed) but my opinion is we could have shot ourselves in the foot this season only time will tell. I`ll go with that....AP was a good manager let`s hope we get one at least as good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 What? In the same way that you are prepared to paper over the reasons why Cortese dismissed Pardew without knowing them? Anyway, ninth most successful manager in the country with a team in the 3rd division, plenty of money available and a Premiership quality set-up? That site is not available, but I don't need to even look at it to know that it is not a level playing field and that you can produce statistics to prove anything. Sorry the club told us why they sacked AP in their press release or are you suggesting the club lied to us? http://www.leaguemanagers.com/managers/mpl-league.html?seasonid=140&type=Season+Total&x=20&y=10 the link again I'm not manipulating any facts at all. All managers are grade by the football league managers assocation on games won and drawn the more games you win the higher up the table you are Pardew finished 9th out all managers in all four divisions no lies no massaging the facts. There's no point going on about level playing fields there is no such thing in football never has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasper57saint Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 I'd like to thank Alan Pardew for giving us the best PLUS goal difference in many many years. I just hope his successor is as expidititious in his endeavours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilza Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 - Paul Lambert joined Norwich 4 weeks later than Pardew joined Saints - Paul Lambert didn't have £3m+ to spend, Pardew did - Take 10 points off Norwich and they would still be 1st, take 10 points off Saints and they are 7th Can't you ****ing read? Its the appreciation thread, if you want to criticise and post things that make you look super, go on the other thread. For what its worth, I really liked Pardew. I can remember back to Swindon away last season when we were awful, the worst I've seen us. Everyone was making the sub gesture and I thought does he really know what he's doing?? But look at the change since then, he got rid of lots of rubbish, Lancashire, Paterson, Saga, Rasiak, Thomson, and brought in better all over the pitch. I went to games again believing we would win and saw us on three occasions destroy teams. Thanks Alan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 Yep. And people like Hamilton Saint chanting "There's Only One Alan Pardew" during the game arent helping the f**king team either. This is an appreciation thread. Take your negativity somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 Decent manager and did a good job for us. Sadly because he didn't win every game he didn't win over the wrist slitters. I hope he gets a better job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 Its amazing isn't it. We had a decent manager who won us a cup and gave us back some self respect and some halfwit starts a thread in reaction to this one to slag the bloke off. Why would any decent manager want to come here and work when the fan base is made up of so many d*ckheads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 Its amazing isn't it. We had a decent manager who won us a cup and gave us back some self respect and some halfwit starts a thread in reaction to this one to slag the bloke off. Why would any decent manager want to come here and work when the fan base is made up of so many d*ckheads. you said so yourself in another thread....and why over 50 have applied (2 of which are from two divisions above) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 Your positive thoughts about Mr. Pardew? Last year I was very unwell. I was in hospital for about 4 months. Things looked bleak. I couldn't see a future and had really given up hope. Then one morning one of the nurses told me that Alan would be coming in to see some patients, sign some autographs and have a chat and if I would be interested in seeing him. Of course I jumped at the chance (not literally, I was paralysed). Anyway, Alan came in and spent about 20 minutes with me. I won't break his confidence vy divulging all the things he said, but by the time he left I could sense pins and needles in my toes and the next day I was walking. I recently ran a marathon, and considering the doctors said I would never walk again, that is some feat. That's the kind of guy Alan is. I'll miss him (although I got to say, this new bloke is going to blow your minds). Thanks for everything Alan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 you said so yourself in another thread....and why over 50 have applied (2 of which are from two divisions above) How do you know it is not spin? And the question was not literal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 This is an appreciation thread. Take your negativity somewhere else. I see you are back to stalking again you complete bore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 Alan did a good job here, good performance in the league and a cup win. Thanks for that Alan. Best of luck with whatever comes next. And before anybody makes any snide remarks about the reasons for his sacking, we'll never know for sure the rationale behind it I expect. So without being privvy to that information, it's fairest just to give appreciation for the job he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Fred Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 What? In the same way that you are prepared to paper over the reasons why Cortese dismissed Pardew without knowing them? Anyway, ninth most successful manager in the country with a team in the 3rd division, plenty of money available and a Premiership quality set-up? That site is not available, but I don't need to even look at it to know that it is not a level playing field and that you can produce statistics to prove anything. But with the same set up Wilkins has managed to have the record of W-0 D-O L-2 F-0 A-5 when with the set up you describe a monkey would have won both games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 - Paul Lambert joined Norwich 4 weeks later than Pardew joined Saints - Paul Lambert didn't have £3m+ to spend, Pardew did - Take 10 points off Norwich and they would still be 1st, take 10 points off Saints and they are 7th Could be argued that Norwich had a far stronger squad already assembled and also a decent pre-season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 6 September, 2010 Share Posted 6 September, 2010 Alan did a good job here, good performance in the league and a cup win. Thanks for that Alan. Best of luck with whatever comes next. And before anybody makes any snide remarks about the reasons for his sacking, we'll never know for sure the rationale behind it I expect. So without being privvy to that information, it's fairest just to give appreciation for the job he did. spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 7 September, 2010 Share Posted 7 September, 2010 I see you are back to stalking again you complete bore. I see you are back to abusing people who don't agree with you. It would seem you are in the minority in your opinion about Pardew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 I see you are back to abusing people who don't agree with you. It would seem you are in the minority in your opinion about Pardew. So what if I am ? Its my opinion which I have formulated, not followed the blind sheep or the happy-clappies. And reading you lecture about abuse, that really is f**king funny considering some of the stuff you've been writing about me again this week. I am perfectly entitled to start a criticism thread to counter-balance the appreciation thread (btw, have a loko - it has more posts than this one...), since many had doubts about him, but your first contribution was to call me an "arse"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 So what if I am ? Its my opinion which I have formulated, not followed the blind sheep or the happy-clappies. And reading you lecture about abuse, that really is f**king funny considering some of the stuff you've been writing about me again this week. I am perfectly entitled to start a criticism thread to counter-balance the appreciation thread (btw, have a loko - it has more posts than this one...), since many had doubts about him, but your first contribution was to call me an "arse"... lol and how many of those posts are people disagreeing with you? Unless we get a quality manager in now sacking AP was a mistake, mark my words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 Sorry the club told us why they sacked AP in their press release or are you suggesting the club lied to us? http://www.leaguemanagers.com/managers/mpl-league.html?seasonid=140&type=Season+Total&x=20&y=10 the link again I'm not manipulating any facts at all. All managers are grade by the football league managers assocation on games won and drawn the more games you win the higher up the table you are Pardew finished 9th out all managers in all four divisions no lies no massaging the facts. There's no point going on about level playing fields there is no such thing in football never has been. Errr Harry Red **** is 7th on the list and above Pardew! It therefore loses all credibility if you can get there by ruining clubs on the way and overspending all your budgets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 lol and how many of those posts are people disagreeing with you? Unless we get a quality manager in now sacking AP was a mistake, mark my words That is stating the obvious! so surely we need to see who the new manager is and then how he performs before deciding if it was a mistake or not! We do not have all the facts we do not know the plans going forward and do not understand NC's reasoning at present so all opinions to date on this site are based on speculation and nothing else. All judgements on whether the sacking was or wasn't a mistake can realistically only be done from the future looking back and even then there is an element of speculation involved as we will never really know how Pardew would have performed by comparison! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 lol and how many of those posts are people disagreeing with you? Very few. How many on here are me disagreeing with the thread sentiment ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 But with the same set up Wilkins has managed to have the record of W-0 D-O L-2 F-0 A-5 when with the set up you describe a monkey would have won both games. Well, Pardew's record this season was not much better than the monkey's either, was it? And as you could not forecast what Pardew might have managed without Lallana, without Barnard and with Lambert off colour, your post is totally meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 Errr Harry Red **** is 7th on the list and above Pardew! It therefore loses all credibility if you can get there by ruining clubs on the way and overspending all your budgets! Its based purely on last seasons RESULTS are you telling me saggy chops had a bad season last year? Last season AP was the ninth best performing manager in all four leagues thats a fact. ITdoesn't mean he would have been this year or that saggy chops was 7th best when he came here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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