SNSUN Posted 29 September, 2010 Share Posted 29 September, 2010 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11420737 Seems Emma Thompson has been 'having a go' at teenagers talk in slang, and don't pronounciate, or annunciate, properly. At school, English was always my best subject, and I always try to better myself, lest I speak incorrectly or don't know how to spell something. However I don't think teenagers talking the way they do is a bad thing, the advent of text messaging has created a new language in some ways, but not one that sticks around for too long. IMO these teenagers soon realise the need to speak correct English, and the slang gets filtered out of them. What are your thoughts? I see even on this forum people correcting other people's grammer and spelling, nobody's perfect... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 29 September, 2010 Share Posted 29 September, 2010 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11420737 Seems Emma Thompson has been 'having a go' at teenagers talk in slang, and don't pronounciate, or annunciate, properly. At school, English was always my best subject, and I always try to better myself, lest I speak incorrectly or don't know how to spell something. However I don't think teenagers talking the way they do is a bad thing, the advent of text messaging has created a new language in some ways, but not one that sticks around for too long. IMO these teenagers soon realise the need to speak correct English, and the slang gets filtered out of them. What are your thoughts? I even see on this forum people correcting other people's grammer and spelling, nobody's perfect... Corrected it for you ;-) (*The original sentence is quite possible grammatically correct but pretending it isn't is potentially more humourous than not. Or, there again....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 September, 2010 Share Posted 29 September, 2010 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11420737 Seems Emma Thompson has been 'having a go' at teenagers talk in slang, and don't pronounciate, or annunciate, properly. At school, English was always my best subject, and I always try to better myself, lest I speak incorrectly or don't know how to spell something. However I don't think teenagers talking the way they do is a bad thing, the advent of text messaging has created a new language in some ways, but not one that sticks around for too long. IMO these teenagers soon realise the need to speak correct English, and the slang gets filtered out of them. What are your thoughts? I see even on this forum people correcting other people's grammer and spelling, nobody's perfect... I hate the way kids talk, todays Jeremy Kyle is a classic example of how not to speak. In this blud clut language, slowly like fake pretend gansters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 29 September, 2010 Share Posted 29 September, 2010 kids talking all gangsta makes me cringe. I had some 12 year old kid gobbing off on XBLive a few months back at how he was going to "Bang you out blud" and other gangsta type insults. He wasnt amused when I gave him my address and said if he has enough pocket money to get the bus out of his home town I would be suprised. Still waiting for him to show up. I blame dizzee rascal as the kids are just copying what they hear in songs. I just dont think they realise how daft they sound or how a life working in McDonnalds is going to be there career targets if they want to carry on with that kind of act. Bless them. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 29 September, 2010 Share Posted 29 September, 2010 teh bihatch be talkinz shizzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 29 September, 2010 Share Posted 29 September, 2010 Oh, like we never used incorrect grammar or cool words when we were teenagers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 29 September, 2010 Share Posted 29 September, 2010 kids talking all gangsta makes me cringe. I had some 12 year old kid gobbing off on XBLive a few months back at how he was going to "Bang you out blud" and other gangsta type insults. He wasnt amused when I gave him my address and said if he has enough pocket money to get the bus out of his home town I would be suprised. Still waiting for him to show up. I blame dizzee rascal as the kids are just copying what they hear in songs. I just dont think they realise how daft they sound or how a life working in McDonnalds is going to be there career targets if they want to carry on with that kind of act. Bless them. lol. My personal annoyances are the inability to differenciate between "there", "their" and "they're" and the use of "of" instead of "have". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 29 September, 2010 Share Posted 29 September, 2010 What annoys me more is getting texts off my Mum written in text speak which I don't understand. Don't worry Turkish, the ones I get from your Mum are very easy to read, although I think she got confused between "come" and "cum" the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 29 September, 2010 Share Posted 29 September, 2010 It's not like slang and colloquial language is a brand new phenomenon is it. It's been around for hundreds of years, and just like formal language it's ever changing. Dialects change with location and social class and with different dialects come different types of informal speech, and in my opinion, there is no wrong or right way to speak. Unless, of course, you are impersonating some rudeboi gangsta and actually putting on an accent, using words that are originally from Jamaica and so on. Fair enough if you're a 1st and 2nd generation West Indian immigrant using that sort of dialect, it's natural, but some middle class white boy from a suburb of London, or worse, somewhere like Hampshire using it isn't really right. In my opinion there's nothing wrong with slang, or informal speech, being used by teenagers, it's a natural and normal thing. There is a line though, and that line gets crossed when you actually put on an accent and use slang just to 'act cool'. Essay by RedAndWhite91, voted most common person in the English Language A-Level class Peter Symonds College 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted 29 September, 2010 Share Posted 29 September, 2010 Thompson is just getting old and increasingly intolerant of younger people (happens to most of us) and feels she is doing something worthwhile (errrr not) whilst keeping up her public profile. Go Emma, you miserable old bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 29 September, 2010 Share Posted 29 September, 2010 Language is constantly evolving, 200 years ago English was very different. Would we have understood english well in 1300? Probably not. People also adapt their language to different situations, slang has always been, but so has formal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 29 September, 2010 Share Posted 29 September, 2010 Think about a lot of words / slang that arose during the second world war. Particularly the words used by RAF crews. And words like 'spiffing', 'what-ho' etc. And a lot of words adopted from our time as an Empire e.g. 'tiffin', 'doolally'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 29 September, 2010 Share Posted 29 September, 2010 David Crystal is the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 29 September, 2010 Share Posted 29 September, 2010 My personal annoyances are the inability to differenciate between "there", "their" and "they're" and the use of "of" instead of "have". haha fair point. My spelling and grammar leaves alot to be desired but at least people can generally understand what I am saying. Text speak is another pet hate of mine, Half the words are just as easy to spell correctly then in the cool text speak kind of way. A whole message in text speak often leaves me needing an translator. ;o) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 29 September, 2010 Share Posted 29 September, 2010 Not sure that Emma Thompson was criticising the use of slang per se, rather the inability of many young people to differentiate between appropriate and inappropriate use of slang and informal language. Have to say I agree with her to some extent - one of my pet peeves is teenagers saying "like" several times a sentance - it's like so annoying when like they do that While I'm on the subject I also find the over use of "at the end of the day right" and "to be fair" very annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 September, 2010 Share Posted 29 September, 2010 What annoys me more is getting texts off my Mum written in text speak which I don't understand. Don't worry Turkish, the ones I get from your Mum are very easy to read, lthough I think she got confused between "come" and "cum" the other day. you had a hard job pal she's been dead for two years, unless you are into Necorophillia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 29 September, 2010 Share Posted 29 September, 2010 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11420737 Seems Emma Thompson has been 'having a go' at teenagers talk in slang, and don't pronounciate, or annunciate, properly. At school, English was always my best subject, and I always try to better myself, lest I speak incorrectly or don't know how to spell something. However I don't think teenagers talking the way they do is a bad thing, the advent of text messaging has created a new language in some ways, but not one that sticks around for too long. IMO these teenagers soon realise the need to speak correct English, and the slang gets filtered out of them. What are your thoughts? I see even on this forum people correcting other people's grammer and spelling, nobody's perfect... http://www.thefreedictionary.com/enunciate That is all, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 29 September, 2010 Share Posted 29 September, 2010 Thompson is just getting old and increasingly intolerant of younger people (happens to most of us) and feels she is doing something worthwhile (errrr not) whilst keeping up her public profile. Go Emma, you miserable old bag. agree i think its a sign of old age when the oldies start complaining about about how the music and language was better in their day:lol: just let the snotty snobs live in their own little bubble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 29 September, 2010 Share Posted 29 September, 2010 you had a hard job pal she's been dead for two years, unless you are into Necorophillia. Each to their own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 29 September, 2010 Share Posted 29 September, 2010 I think it is very intelligent of teenagers to invent a new langauge that us elders do not understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 29 September, 2010 Share Posted 29 September, 2010 David Crystal is the man. David Crystal gave a talk at my college last year, what a bloke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted 29 September, 2010 Share Posted 29 September, 2010 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11420737 Seems Emma Thompson has been 'having a go' at teenagers talk in slang, and don't pronounciate, or annunciate, properly. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/enunciate That is all, thank you. Is it? I really think you should have corrected pronounciate too. You could also get stuck into differenciate, which is somewhere else on the thread. Go on, fill your boots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 29 September, 2010 Share Posted 29 September, 2010 Not sure that Emma Thompson was criticising the use of slang per se, rather the inability of many young people to differentiate between appropriate and inappropriate use of slang and informal language. Have to say I agree with her to some extent - one of my pet peeves is teenagers saying "like" several times a sentance - it's like so annoying when like they do that While I'm on the subject I also find the over use of "at the end of the day right" and "to be fair" very annoying. And "you know like" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 29 September, 2010 Share Posted 29 September, 2010 Is it? I really think you should have corrected pronounciate too. You could also get stuck into differenciate, which is somewhere else on the thread. Go on, fill your boots. Differentiate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 29 September, 2010 Share Posted 29 September, 2010 David Crystal is the man. A very good post, makes things 'Crystal clear' and removes a few misconceptions of mine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 29 September, 2010 Share Posted 29 September, 2010 This is a much bigger issue in the US, where it has become all wrapped up in the touchy subject of race. Bill Cosby has famously led a campaign for years now, trying to get young black Americans from disappearing into the limiting patois of urban-speak. Even though - as Ali G pastiched - it's taken up widely in youth culture, it is actually, says Cosby, speech-poor, and therefore a means of reinforcing all kinds of inequalities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 29 September, 2010 Share Posted 29 September, 2010 Is it? I really think you should have corrected pronounciate too. You could also get stuck into differenciate, which is somewhere else on the thread. Go on, fill your boots. I know what you mean but I didn't want to do the whole pendantic thing to be honest. More, of which, when my 24 hours/3 posts limit is reset! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisPY Posted 30 September, 2010 Share Posted 30 September, 2010 Far out man, this is totally radical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 30 September, 2010 Author Share Posted 30 September, 2010 http://www.thefreedictionary.com/enunciate That is all, thank you. I understand the irony, but I will put forward the fact I wrote that, rushed, in the last 2 minutes of my meal break yesterday. :-) As with anything I write online, I always blame my typing skills, and not my spelling, for **** ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefunkygibbons Posted 30 September, 2010 Share Posted 30 September, 2010 I have a one man campaign against the word like Not just my children, but also any other visitors to the house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 1 October, 2010 Share Posted 1 October, 2010 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-11443261 ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 1 October, 2010 Share Posted 1 October, 2010 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-11443261 ........... It will be interesting to see what her child turns into with a name like Destiny Mafia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durleyfos Posted 1 October, 2010 Share Posted 1 October, 2010 It will be interesting to see what her child turns into with a name like Destiny Mafia Is 'Mafia' a real surname? Or has she made it up to sound 'street' or hard or some other ball-locks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 1 October, 2010 Share Posted 1 October, 2010 Is 'Mafia' a real surname? Or has she made it up to sound 'street' or hard or some other ball-locks? She changed it from Heald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 1 October, 2010 Share Posted 1 October, 2010 Far out man, this is like totally radical. Corrected it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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