Dr Who? Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 (edited) I was reading the below reports and when it gets to the end of what NA had to say, it seems that he may be having a swipe at some sections of the fans? Am I just reading this wrong, and is it the same reason that Pucheon left on loan as he did not want to play for us anymore? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_2/9387852.stm Edited 13 February, 2011 by Dr Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 yes he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 He is and has every right to. How the f**k is he meant to bring in the best players for us if we end up with a reputation for being ars*h*le fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 Not sure it's so much taking a swipe as trying to encourage support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 That looks like Yes x 2 to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 13 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 13 February, 2011 To be fair they have been here for a couple of games, and if we are getting on their backs already (which I do not know if some fans are) then it is out of order and will damage producing the best out of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 Can't blame him. Block 42 ****s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 Listen to the audio and he doesn't really emphasise this like in the short written extract. So I don't think he was deliberatly trying to give oblique criticism - he could be a lot more forthright. But if it happens agaoin he bloody wll should do and make it perfecetly clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 He talks about "supporting" players all the time, mostly with Chamberlain, but he means the coaching staff more than anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 It's not really clear what he means, could well be a pop at the fans but not necessarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 I hope he is, but I doubt it; it's cuddly speech for his management technique. More important is our own reaction, if chanting is a democracy then next time people boo then those who don't agree should stand up and applaud or sing his name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 He is and has every right to. How the f**k is he meant to bring in the best players for us if we end up with a reputation for being ars*h*le fans. I think we over estaimate how much the fans influences a players desicion over say a good weekly wage, good facilities and a management team with a good rep. Forte clearly came becuase he'd worked with Nige before not becuase he'd heard good things about our fanbase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crispypie Posted 13 February, 2011 Share Posted 13 February, 2011 Listening to the audio I dont think he is having a pop at the crowd. Perhaps he should. I wasnt happy about Gully for several games but he is starting to make his mark. I just wish I had the confidence in RL to turn it on consistantly over the second half of the season. Still, now he has a little one to make proud of him I am sure he will continue the effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 Can't blame him. Block 42 ****s. *about 30 in block 42 c***s. I think he is having a little dig there, and quite rightly too. At least we are away from home for a few games now so they might find it easier to settle in that way. I have already lost my cool with the block 42 helmets once this season, ironically got abused on here for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 Listen to the audio interview, the quote can be misleading without hearing it in proper context (i.e. HOW he said it). Players in a team support each other, the coaching staff support the players and the fans support everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 I think Nigel should have been more specific and said the Northam pr1cks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nutkins Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 I think what he was saying was, i got these lads in because i think they are good players........please give them time to settle in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthamSteve Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 he's got every right too. ****s behind me in the Northam booing again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemel Saint Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 he's got every right too. ****s behind me in the Northam booing again. I am in 42 and got to say I was ashamed. How the eff is the player going to feel at the next home game? Was he not Top Man at Exeter away!! We really do have some toss fans, waving season tickets, calling others 'plastic fans'.... and ruining every bloody song by speedy it up. If I can get my mats to agree, I really fancy moving my season ticket back to the Itchen North (shame its not block 2 though!)... sigh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red&White Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 He is and has every right to. How the f**k is he meant to bring in the best players for us if we end up with a reputation for being ars*h*le fans. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red&White Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 I think Nigel should have been more specific and said the Northam pr1cks. I sit in Kingsland north ( in the corner ) good view but going to move, sick of the to55ers in the Northam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 Am I just reading this wrong, and is it the same reason that Pucheon left on loan as he did not want to play for us anymore? I think the reason Puncheon left us is obvious, he knew Prem and Championship clubs were interested so didn't fancy slumming it in league 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 I was brought up to believe it is wrong to boo your own side - it is wrong and counter productive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 he's got every right too. ****s behind me in the Northam booing again. On the bright side, I'm in Block 41 near the front, no-one could hear them booing over the nearly as lame cheering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthamSteve Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 On the bright side, I'm in Block 41 near the front, no-one could hear them booing over the nearly as lame cheering. Rather have people that blindly follow and cheer the team then pick on one player after a poor performance. He might improve, don't think those fans will get any more clever though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Lej Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 Surely if these players could: 1- control a ball when it is passed to them, 2 - not aimlessly run up there own asses and lose the ball, 3 - hit a barn door from close range, then fine, cheering may be forthcoming, but if they turn in performances that would be disappointing from the lad picked last for a primary school kick about, then a bit of jeering is justified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthamSteve Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 Surely if these players could: 1- control a ball when it is passed to them, 2 - not aimlessly run up there own asses and lose the ball, 3 - hit a barn door from close range, then fine, cheering may be forthcoming, but if they turn in performances that would be disappointing from the lad picked last for a primary school kick about, then a bit of jeering is justified. See my previous comment. They're a team, they should get jeered and cheered as a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 Listen to the audio interview, the quote can be misleading without hearing it in proper context (i.e. HOW he said it). Players in a team support each other, the coaching staff support the players and the fans support everyone. I listened to the interview and it was obvious he was sending a message to the fans. In fact he usually says something about how it benefits the team when the support is good. It also seemed pretty obvious in the way Adkins greeted the player when he came off that he (Adkins) was aware of the crowd reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 (edited) Surely if these players could: 1- control a ball when it is passed to them, 2 - not aimlessly run up there own asses and lose the ball, 3 - hit a barn door from close range, then fine, cheering may be forthcoming, but if they turn in performances that would be disappointing from the lad picked last for a primary school kick about, then a bit of jeering is justified. You can jeer as much as you like if it makes you feel better. Don't kid yourself that you're somehow helping the team when you do so tho. Edited 14 February, 2011 by jam spellin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 only time it is ok to boo is when the player is showing he doesn't give a **** and is not trying, both of them were trying and had the right attitude so there was no need to boo or cheer NG coming off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Lej Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 You can jeer as much as you like if it makes you feel better. Don't kid yourself that you're somehow helping the team when you do so tho. If booing encourages Adkins to leave the pants players out, then yes, it is helping the team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 If booing encourages Adkins to leave the pants players out, then yes, it is helping the team! Well that ain't gonna happen! People were jeering Guly a couple of months ago, should Adkins leave him out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 I listened to the interview and it was obvious he was sending a message to the fans. In fact he usually says something about how it benefits the team when the support is good. It also seemed pretty obvious in the way Adkins greeted the player when he came off that he (Adkins) was aware of the crowd reaction. I was sat just behind the dug out and it was obvious dany aware of it too. Poor guy, no need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 Ashamed to be supporting the same club as these morons. Supporters? Feck off are they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 Surely if these players could: 1- control a ball when it is passed to them, 2 - not aimlessly run up there own asses and lose the ball, 3 - hit a barn door from close range, then fine, cheering may be forthcoming, but if they turn in performances that would be disappointing from the lad picked last for a primary school kick about, then a bit of jeering is justified. On his first game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Lej Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 only time it is ok to boo is when the player is showing he doesn't give a **** and is not trying, both of them were trying and had the right attitude so there was no need to boo or cheer NG coming off. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 14 February, 2011 Share Posted 14 February, 2011 It saddens me to think that there are people who think booing their own team is OK. But it amuses me how they are so precious themselves they leap back on the board to defend themselves against the slightest criticism. In the scale of things though they are as annoying as an ant on an elephants arse and it should not really affect the performance of a professional footballer. I have no doubt our two new wingers will be producing top performances soon. Besides, N'Guessan was MOTM at Exeter in some people's eyes. Both showed some potential on Saturday but not a good game to judge anyone on really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Johnson Posted 15 February, 2011 Share Posted 15 February, 2011 If booing encourages Adkins to leave the pants players out, then yes, it is helping the team! Surely if these players could: 1- control a ball when it is passed to them, 2 - not aimlessly run up there own asses and lose the ball, 3 - hit a barn door from close range, then fine, cheering may be forthcoming, but if they turn in performances that would be disappointing from the lad picked last for a primary school kick about, then a bit of jeering is justified. booooooooooooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 15 February, 2011 Share Posted 15 February, 2011 Wow if we think saints fans are bad have a look at this article on the beeb about Ronaldo and the Corinthins fans, puts the odd jeer or boo from us in perspective ..................... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/9397354.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 15 February, 2011 Share Posted 15 February, 2011 week in week out someone is constantly criticising the club, player or manager it ****es me off Either get behind the club or **** off somewhere else. there are too many negative folk in this world lets get behind the team instead of constantly analysing this player that player etc etc Its not good for your health besides ****ing off saints fans like me who where their heart on their sleeve. Im not only referring to some on his but a number of the boo boy fans at SMS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 15 February, 2011 Share Posted 15 February, 2011 Can't believe people are getting wound up by a dozen or so people out of 25,000+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 15 February, 2011 Share Posted 15 February, 2011 maybe they were saying booo-urns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 15 February, 2011 Share Posted 15 February, 2011 I think we over estaimate how much the fans influences a players desicion over say a good weekly wage, good facilities and a management team with a good rep. Forte clearly came becuase he'd worked with Nige before not becuase he'd heard good things about our fanbase. But you'd soon get pretty despondent in your own job if, despite being paid well and having a nice canteen or whatever, the customers kept shouting abuse at you. You start making mistakes over things you'd normally take in your stride. I'm not averse to a bit of booing at the half-time troop-off if the side has played very badly in the first half, but booing or barracking an individual player in your own team is out as far as I'm concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 15 February, 2011 Share Posted 15 February, 2011 But you'd soon get pretty despondent in your own job if, despite being paid well and having a nice canteen or whatever, the customers kept shouting abuse at you. You start making mistakes over things you'd normally take in your stride. I'm not averse to a bit of booing at the half-time troop-off if the side has played very badly in the first half, but booing or barracking an individual player in your own team is out as far as I'm concerned. Personally I don't boo I have been known to groan though, sometimes when you see a bad pass or poor judgement from a player you kind just do the old face palm ohhhh thing without thinking. Seems I'm not the only one though as the ohhhh is quite audible sometimes. I'm afraid though I find it hard to have to much sympthy for a well payed footballer who lives a lifestyle most of us can only dream of who gets a bit of stick when he clearly can't be arsed. Getting a bit of stick is something footballers have to live with surely? I don't think the new boys deserved any stick on sat though I mean Fortes played what 20mins for the club? what do people exepect him to have achieved a double hatrick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 16 February, 2011 Share Posted 16 February, 2011 Personally I don't boo I have been known to groan though, sometimes when you see a bad pass or poor judgement from a player you kind just do the old face palm ohhhh thing without thinking. Seems I'm not the only one though as the ohhhh is quite audible sometimes. I'm afraid though I find it hard to have to much sympthy for a well payed footballer who lives a lifestyle most of us can only dream of who gets a bit of stick when he clearly can't be arsed. Getting a bit of stick is something footballers have to live with surely? I don't think the new boys deserved any stick on sat though I mean Fortes played what 20mins for the club? what do people exepect him to have achieved a double hatrick? Well, I can't really disagree with what you say, but a lot of fans mix up lack of form, carrying an injury etc. with "can't be arsed", especially when they've decided they don't like him. Nevertheless I think that if the side as a whole has been poor the spectators have the right to tell them so. They are "professional entertainers" and should know what comes with the territory. That's the other side of the trophy bird/bmw 4x4 coin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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