The9 Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 (edited) - Carling Cup First Round Draw The draw for the first round of the Carling Cup has been made, and it is as follows: Rochdale v Chesterfield Port Vale v Huddersfield Town Rotherham United v Leicester City Hull City v Macclesfield Town Hartlepool United v Sheffield United Leeds United v Bradford City Doncaster Rovers v Tranmere Rovers Walsall v Middlesbrough Barnsley v Morecambe Accrington Stanley v Scvnthorpe United Derby County v Shrewsbury Town Oldham Athletic v Carlisle United Bury v Coventry City Sheffield Wednesday v Blackpool Burnley v Burton Albion Preston North End v Crewe Alexandra Nottingham Forest v Notts County Brighton & Hove Albion v Gillingham AFC Bournemouth v Dagenham & Redbridge Ipswich Town v Northampton Town Cheltenham Town v Milton Keynes Dons Bristol Rovers v Watford Plymouth Argyle v Millwall Oxford United v Cardiff City West Ham United v Aldershot Town Southampton v Torquay United Charlton Athletic v Reading Portsmouth v Barnet Stevenage v Peterborough United Southend United v Leyton Orient Wycombe Wanderers v Colchester United Hereford United v Brentford Exeter City v Yeovil Town Bristol City v Swindon Town Crystal Palace v Crawley Town/AFC Wimbledon Ties will be played during the week commencing 8th August 2011. Seen it before... Edited 16 June, 2011 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 What a ****ing **** draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 16 June, 2011 http://www.carling.com/carlingcup/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 Local derby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 After the 8k turn out against Swindon in the JPT and the awful awful atmosphere I think I'll give this boring game a miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 Not Pompey then. This is actually a nice little earner for Torquay so I'm happy for them to go out to us, the eventual winners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 Get behind the team! need to make this a sell out imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 16 June, 2011 If nothing else it maintains our bizarre record of being drawn at home wherever possible in every competition since playing Northampton away in the 2010 FA Cup 2nd Round. Or something like that. We've had something like 14 successive home draws in JPT/League Cup and FA Cup now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 Woohoo! Fantastic draw! Also this booze is amazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 16 June, 2011 Not Pompey then. This is actually a nice little earner for Torquay so I'm happy for them to go out to us, the eventual winners. No, nor any of the other sides that were seeded and we couldn't possibly play, nor any of the teams in the Northern section, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisPY Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 lol@Brum f*cking the draw up by qualifying for europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 16 June, 2011 Now on the OS, which will probably lead to someone starting another thread... http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2377155,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 16 June, 2011 lol@Brum f*cking the draw up by qualifying for europe. Which they did by winning the Carling Cup, lolz. Bit harsh on AFC Wimbledon though, having to play bloody horrible Crawley who have the funding of a top four League One side and already had to put up with them dominating the Conference all of last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spakes Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 Nice to see Scott Bevan come back to his home town Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 No, nor any of the other sides that were seeded and we couldn't possibly play, nor any of the teams in the Northern section, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 **** f*****g home draw AGAIN! if it was away i'd have gone, but I won't bother with this one. Great draw for Aldershot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 Which they did by winning the Carling Cup, lolz. Bit harsh on AFC Wimbledon though, having to play bloody horrible Crawley who have the funding of a top four League One side and already had to put up with them dominating the Conference all of last season. They could have avoided a preliminary round by keeping Fulham (who probably won't get through three qualifying rounds) in the second round, rather than give them a bye as well. We don't normally get an extra European place for the fair play league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 16 June, 2011 I'm afraid you'll just have to assume I thought you were that stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 Any geeks got any stats for the amount of home draws in the last few years? I honestly doubt any team has had more than us!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 Good draw for Gillingham there. Torquay again - me vs my Dad. Lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 16 June, 2011 They could have avoided a preliminary round by keeping Fulham (who probably won't get through three qualifying rounds) in the second round, rather than give them a bye as well. We don't normally get an extra European place for the fair play league. It's also arguable that those two specific clubs should have been in the Prelim., why not a random Southern section draw amongst the unseeded clubs ? No reason to include the Northern section in it, as all the affected sides are Southern. Still, there's another match for you to go to ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 16 June, 2011 (edited) Any geeks got any stats for the amount of home draws in the last few years? I honestly doubt any team has had more than us!! I've been counting, just going to recheck it, but we're in double figures and given that the probability of us getting even 7 successive home draws is 1/132 and we've had about 14, so I'm not going to bother checking anyone else's ! Edited 16 June, 2011 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 Nice to see Scott Bevan come back to his home town. Just joined Bristol Rovers! http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13703945.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 16 June, 2011 (edited) Nov 2009 : Northampton A in FA Cup R2 was the last away draw. Taking out the two-legged JPT Area Final v MK and the Final at Wembley in early 2010, Saints' home draws since then : 1 ) Norwich JPT4 Dec 2009 2 ) Luton FAC3 Jan 2010 3 ) Ipswich FAC4 Jan 2010 4 ) Portsmouth FAC5 Feb 2010 5 ) AFC Bournemouth CCup1 Aug 2010 6 ) Bolton CCup2 Aug 2010 7 ) Swindon JPT1 Sep 2010 8 ) Shrewsbury FAC1 Nov 2010 9 ) Cheltenham FAC2 Nov 2010 10) Blackpool FAC3 Jan 2011 11) Man U FAC4 Jan 2011 12) Torquay CCup1 Aug 2011 That includes 7 successive FA Cup home draws ! Add to that 2009/10's home draws against Northampton (CCup1), Birmingham (CCup2), Torquay (JPT2) and Charlton (JPT3) BEFORE the Northampton FAC2 away (which was preceded by Bristol Rovers away in FAC1), plus 2008/9's Man U FAC3 draw which was the last Cup game of the previous season and we've had 17 out of 19 possible home draws since Jan 2009. Even the two-legged JPT Area Final saw us with the preferred home match in the second leg. Edited 16 June, 2011 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 Was anyone really expecting something earth shattering? I might go if the price is low. I quite enjoyed (in a masochistic way)Cheltenham in the FA cup last season, SMS was about 3/4 empty and f ucking cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 Leeds v Bradford a bit tasty. I hope AFC Wimbledon beat Crawley so they get to go back to Selhurst Park!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 16 June, 2011 Forest v Notts County should be fun for them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 Nov 2009 : Northampton A in FA Cup R2 was the last away draw. Taking out the two-legged JPT Area Final v MK and the Final at Wembley in early 2010, Saints' home draws since then : 1 ) Norwich JPT4 Dec 2009 2 ) Luton FAC3 Jan 2010 3 ) Ipswich FAC4 Jan 2010 4 ) Portsmouth FAC5 Feb 2010 5 ) AFC Bournemouth CCup1 Aug 2010 6 ) Bolton CCup2 Aug 2010 7 ) Swindon JPT1 Sep 2010 8 ) Shrewsbury FAC1 Nov 2010 9 ) Cheltenham FAC2 Nov 2010 10) Blackpool FAC3 Jan 2011 11) Man U FAC4 Jan 2011 12) Torquay CCup1 Aug 2011 That includes 7 successive FA Cup home draws ! Add to that 2009/10's home draws against Northampton (CCup1), Birmingham (CCup2), Torquay (JPT2) and Charlton (JPT3) BEFORE the Northampton FAC2 away, plus 2008/9's Man U FAC3 draw which was the last Cup game of the previous season and we've had 17 out of 18 possible home draws since Jan 2009. Even the two-legged JPT Area Final saw us with the preferred home match in the second leg. We played Bristol Rovers away in the first round of the FA CUP 2 years ago, the round before we played Naints away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 16 June, 2011 We played Bristol Rovers away in the first round of the FA CUP 2 years ago, the round before we played Naints away. Good point, I'll edit. You'd think I'd remember, given that I went. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 Good point, I'll edit. You'd think I'd remember, given that I went. Dry side or wet side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 16 June, 2011 Dry side or wet side? There wasn't a dry side - I was in the front row of the beer marquee stands, directly below a gap in the guttering, which was extremely wet in its own right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 Nov 2009 : Northampton A in FA Cup R2 was the last away draw. Taking out the two-legged JPT Area Final v MK and the Final at Wembley in early 2010, Saints' home draws since then : 1 ) Norwich JPT4 Dec 2009 2 ) Luton FAC3 Jan 2010 3 ) Ipswich FAC4 Jan 2010 4 ) Portsmouth FAC5 Feb 2010 5 ) AFC Bournemouth CCup1 Aug 2010 6 ) Bolton CCup2 Aug 2010 7 ) Swindon JPT1 Sep 2010 8 ) Shrewsbury FAC1 Nov 2010 9 ) Cheltenham FAC2 Nov 2010 10) Blackpool FAC3 Jan 2011 11) Man U FAC4 Jan 2011 12) Torquay CCup1 Aug 2011 That includes 7 successive FA Cup home draws ! Add to that 2009/10's home draws against Northampton (CCup1), Birmingham (CCup2), Torquay (JPT2) and Charlton (JPT3) BEFORE the Northampton FAC2 away (which was preceded by Bristol Rovers away in FAC1), plus 2008/9's Man U FAC3 draw which was the last Cup game of the previous season and we've had 17 out of 19 possible home draws since Jan 2009. Even the two-legged JPT Area Final saw us with the preferred home match in the second leg. Quite impressive. I make it roughly a 1 in 3000 chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmatt Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 Quite impressive. I make it roughly a 1 in 3000 chance. 1/4096 (I have a calculator) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 1/4096 (I have a calculator) 171/524288 actually. I have a calculator too, and a degree in maths. (the chance of exactly 2 away draws and 17 home draws in 19) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 16 June, 2011 1/4096 (I have a calculator) Just to clarify that's for 12 home draws in a row, as opposed to 17/19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 Just to clarify that's for 12 home draws in a row, as opposed to 17/19. Accepted that's right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 Come on Shef Weds too........Well capable of beating that overated, loud mouth, bad loosing tw t from the relegated chumps that wear orange....Sorry, who are they 'playing every week' now??? Ummmmm ..........Could be a case of 'Championship - you're having a laugh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 With the hike in prices and considering what a boring draw that is it wouldn't hurt the club to let season tickets holders in for free to this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 (edited) With the hike in prices and considering what a boring draw that is it wouldn't hurt the club to let season tickets holders in for free to this one. It would when they have to agree the price with Torquay United. Why would Torquay accept Saints season ticket holders getting in for free and them missing out on a cash boost? Also, why is it "boring"? I like to watch Saints win, they have a good chance to win this tie and progress to the 2nd round. Edited 16 June, 2011 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 It would when they have to agree the price with Torquay United. Why would Torquay accept Saints season ticket holders getting in for free and them missing out on a cash boost? Also, why is it "boring"? I like to watch Saints win, they have a good chance to win this tie and progress to the 2nd round. Fair point re the ticket pricing, hopefully they will have agreed a sensible price. I find it boring as we only played a year or so ago, plenty of other teams we could have drawn against who I would be far more interested in seeing us play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 Fair point re the ticket pricing, hopefully they will have agreed a sensible price. I find it boring as we only played a year or so ago, plenty of other teams we could have drawn against who I would be far more interested in seeing us play. In any case, the tickets are likely to be very cheap for this game, it may even be the first home game of the season which will boost the attendance. Nearly 11,000 for the Carling Cup 1st round tie against League Two opposition Northampton in 2009/10. Which is a huge figure for that stage of the competition against a lower league club. 17,000 against Bournemouth a year later in the 1st round, of course boosted because of a "derby" and large numbers of travelling fans. The Torquay game may well see figures similar to the Northampton game in 2009. 10k or 11k in the League Cup first round against a League Two team is huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 Ticket prices will be £16 adult. You heard it here first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperm_john Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 massive game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 If nothing else it maintains our bizarre record of being drawn at home wherever possible in every competition since playing Northampton away in the 2010 FA Cup 2nd Round. Or something like that. We've had something like 14 successive home draws in JPT/League Cup and FA Cup now. If true, the odds of that happening are 1 in 16384. Might as well enjoy it while we can: unlikely to happen again in our lifetimes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 What a ****ing **** draw. What did you expect? Given the seeding and the regionalisation. Actually I like it, Torquay have always been my second club, just a shame they will be knocked out in the 1st round. I think some people would only think it was a good draw if we were drawn to play ourselves. I think Wimbledon and Crawley should protest, how can it be fair that they were drawn to play each other, and to have to play before the League season has even started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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