farawaysaint Posted 12 September, 2011 Share Posted 12 September, 2011 Don't remember us being linked with him in the window? Haven't followed him recently is he worth an emergency loan? http://www.coventrycity-mad.co.uk/news/tmnw/southampton_link_does_not_bother_cranie_700032/index.shtml? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 12 September, 2011 Share Posted 12 September, 2011 Skate khunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cestrian Saint Posted 12 September, 2011 Share Posted 12 September, 2011 Am I missing something? Why do we need an emergency loan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 12 September, 2011 Author Share Posted 12 September, 2011 Am I missing something? Why do we need an emergency loan? Because we currently have 5 defenders out injured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 12 September, 2011 Share Posted 12 September, 2011 Can't see cov letting him go on loan, unless we offer them a pretty hefty loan fee with an option to buy. He's turned into one of their best players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 12 September, 2011 Share Posted 12 September, 2011 Skate khunt. Hardly, I'd be happy to see him back in the red and white he is a class act at this level and would be happy to have him alongside Fonte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 12 September, 2011 Share Posted 12 September, 2011 Ah another old player HCDAJFU thread. Makes a change from the normal I saw this player on FM thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 12 September, 2011 Share Posted 12 September, 2011 Makes sense for us to be linked with a few centre backs, especially ones like Cranie. If the offer is right I can't see Cov refusing, they desperately need funds after all..... just hope we havn't fallen out totally after all that Elliot Ward business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 12 September, 2011 Share Posted 12 September, 2011 Skate khunt. Mick Channon - skate khunt Ron Davies - skate khunt Alan Ball - skate khunt etc. Grow up for f...'s sake, you khunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint.tom.clancy Posted 12 September, 2011 Share Posted 12 September, 2011 No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu0x Posted 12 September, 2011 Share Posted 12 September, 2011 I normally employ a 'never go back' mentality, but Cranie is one of the few old players I'd take a good look at. He left very young in his career, at a time when our management and financial situations were so chaotic it can hardly be held against him. He showed an awful lot of promise when he was here. Crucially, I think he's at a stage in his career now where he could really 'come on' and develop into a great player. A loan with option would be a no-lose situation for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 12 September, 2011 Share Posted 12 September, 2011 Am I missing something? Why do we need an emergency loan? Because we've written off Jos after one game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 12 September, 2011 Share Posted 12 September, 2011 Not even worth considering. Left us for the Skates/Redknapp and the money that came with it. Let him stay in Coventry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 12 September, 2011 Share Posted 12 September, 2011 He looked a good player in the Coventry game this week. Even if we didn't need him to play centreback he is better than any of our right backs and could cover anywhere across the back four. If he was available, which he isn't, I'd like to see him back at Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewell Posted 12 September, 2011 Share Posted 12 September, 2011 A great shame he left when he did. A very good defender and had he stayed he would have been a first team regular. I have always rated him and personally I think he is better than Mills who people see to drool over. If we can get him back his versatility would also be a bonus. I think he is a no brainer signing to be honest. One thing I cannot recall does he have a left foot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 12 September, 2011 Share Posted 12 September, 2011 A great shame he left when he did. A very good defender and had he stayed he would have been a first team regular. I have always rated him and personally I think he is better than Mills who people see to drool over. If we can get him back his versatility would also be a bonus. I think he is a no brainer signing to be honest. One thing I cannot recall does he have a left foot? He did make a reasonable job playing left back in several games in the Premiership for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 12 September, 2011 Share Posted 12 September, 2011 Cranie is another Chris Baird type player. He wants to play centre back and indeed plays well there, but is too short unless he pays covering for a hulking great brute alongside him, and is not quite as fast as you'd want a top level right back to be ideally. Definitely good enough for the championship but not much use to Saints IMO because he'd be competing to play in Fonte's place, not to play with Fonte, and he wouldn't want to come here as a RB. Personally I always thought that Matt Mills was the more promising of the two when they were breaking through into our first team as youngsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 12 September, 2011 Share Posted 12 September, 2011 He did make a reasonable job playing left back in several games in the Premiership for us. So did Jason Dodd, but neither of them are permanent left backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 12 September, 2011 Share Posted 12 September, 2011 Cranie is another Chris Baird type player. He wants to play centre back and indeed plays well there, but is too short unless he pays covering for a hulking great brute alongside him, and is not quite as fast as you'd want a top level right back to be ideally. Definitely good enough for the championship but not much use to Saints IMO because he'd be competing to play in Fonte's place, not to play with Fonte, and he wouldn't want to come here as a RB. This is how I feel, plus he's a judas **** that joined the skates when we needed him most. I'd more than happy to see him stuck at cov for the rest of his poxy career. I have no issue with us signing ex skates, but signing a player that deserted us for `something better'? No thanks. **** im. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 12 September, 2011 Share Posted 12 September, 2011 yes i would certainly welcome him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 12 September, 2011 Share Posted 12 September, 2011 This is how I feel, plus he's a judas **** that joined the skates when we needed him most. I'd more than happy to see him stuck at cov for the rest of his poxy career. I have no issue with us signing ex skates, but signing a player that deserted us for `something better'? No thanks. **** im. Sanctimonious twaddle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 12 September, 2011 Share Posted 12 September, 2011 Cranie is another Chris Baird type player. He wants to play centre back and indeed plays well there, but is too short unless he pays covering for a hulking great brute alongside him, and is not quite as fast as you'd want a top level right back to be ideally. Definitely good enough for the championship but not much use to Saints IMO because he'd be competing to play in Fonte's place, not to play with Fonte, and he wouldn't want to come here as a RB. Personally I always thought that Matt Mills was the more promising of the two when they were breaking through into our first team as youngsters. Yeah, but where is Matt Mills now though? Cranie is playing regular football at an established Championship club (Coventry). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shropshire Saint Posted 12 September, 2011 Share Posted 12 September, 2011 Yeah, but where is Matt Mills now though? Cranie is playing regular football at an established Championship club (Coventry). Just been transferred from Reading to Leicester for £5m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintAndy14 Posted 12 September, 2011 Share Posted 12 September, 2011 No thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 12 September, 2011 Share Posted 12 September, 2011 So did Jason Dodd, but neither of them are permanent left backs. We have three left backs already but he could play there as cover, as I said he could cover all the back four positions but I see him as a covering centreback not dominating in the air but also a decent right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K,Billy's supersound Posted 12 September, 2011 Share Posted 12 September, 2011 pass i think he was and is utter ****e. for me he's not quick enough to play rb/lb or wise enough to play cb. for me he's a very average defender. would rather stick with playing cork in defense if needed or the youngsters stephens or reeves before selecting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 12 September, 2011 Share Posted 12 September, 2011 (edited) Sanctimonious twaddle I hope so, that's what football supporting is all about - having and displaying irrational hatred of a player that left Saints for their most bitter rivals and then spouting utter drivel about it. Edited 12 September, 2011 by Chez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVER THE HILL Posted 12 September, 2011 Share Posted 12 September, 2011 According to the Skates,he was carp so I would say he did a good job when he was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 12 September, 2011 Share Posted 12 September, 2011 To be honest, you can't blame him for leaving when he did. We were a complete mess at the time. If your employer was going down the pan would you stay just to be loyal, or move to secure your future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 12 September, 2011 Share Posted 12 September, 2011 To be honest, you can't blame him for leaving when he did. We were a complete mess at the time. If your employer was going down the pan would you stay just to be loyal, or move to secure your future? Like Mills he never got a fair crack at Saints. Another one overlooked repeatedly for aging failures. Right to go - wrong club in Skates, but they were Prem at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modern matron Posted 12 September, 2011 Share Posted 12 September, 2011 I normally employ a 'never go back' mentality, but Cranie is one of the few old players I'd take a good look at. He left very young in his career, at a time when our management and financial situations were so chaotic it can hardly be held against him. He showed an awful lot of promise when he was here. Crucially, I think he's at a stage in his career now where he could really 'come on' and develop into a great player. A loan with option would be a no-lose situation for us. A classic Burley cock up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 13 September, 2011 Share Posted 13 September, 2011 I have no wish to see him back but it is difficult to blame any of those players that left during that time of complete chaos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu0x Posted 13 September, 2011 Share Posted 13 September, 2011 He wants to play centre back and indeed plays well there, but is too short unless he pays covering for a hulking great brute alongside him, and is not quite as fast as you'd want a top level right back to be ideally. Definitely good enough for the championship but not much use to Saints IMO because he'd be competing to play in Fonte's place, not to play with Fonte, and he wouldn't want to come here as a RB. I always find it amazing how, in the age of the apparently 'enlightened' football fan, such entrenched established 'wisdom' is trotted out again and again as if it's validity is self-evident. For all the words written and spoken about football nowadays, the lexicon is still embarrassingly small. Because obviously there are no successful teams that don't use at least one massive, largely immobile central defender. There are no situations in which two more dynamic 'ball-playing' centre backs might be more effective. And there is no benefit to introducing competition in all positions, even ones where your best players play, because they are immune to injury, fatigue, or loss of form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 13 September, 2011 Share Posted 13 September, 2011 I always find it amazing how, in the age of the apparently 'enlightened' football fan, such entrenched established 'wisdom' is trotted out again and again as if it's validity is self-evident. For all the words written and spoken about football nowadays, the lexicon is still embarrassingly small. Because obviously there are no successful teams that don't use at least one massive, largely immobile central defender. There are no situations in which two more dynamic 'ball-playing' centre backs might be more effective. And there is no benefit to introducing competition in all positions, even ones where your best players play, because they are immune to injury, fatigue, or loss of form. Of course you don't need one massive immobile defender .. I didn't say you did... but you do need at least one who is tall enough to cope with the average opposing team's strikers. The ideal is two tall and mobile defenders. Failing that, one big and one small generally works better than 2 small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 13 September, 2011 Share Posted 13 September, 2011 (edited) According to the Skates,he was carp so I would say he did a good job when he was there. Not many would have even seen him play (not sure whether he made total of 4 or 5 appearances for the Skates, depends on the reference source) - so thats 5 appearances watched by perhaps 20 skates (average home crowd?). His first game was home to Manure so not many skates would have seen him that day, only plastic Mancs. Apparently he only ever started 1 league game for the Skates, plus 1 sub appearance. Edited 13 September, 2011 by VectisSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeweahscousin Posted 13 September, 2011 Share Posted 13 September, 2011 He was poor for us first time, not sure he is what we need now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 13 September, 2011 Share Posted 13 September, 2011 I normally employ a 'never go back' mentality, but Cranie is one of the few old players I'd take a good look at. He left very young in his career, at a time when our management and financial situations were so chaotic it can hardly be held against him. He showed an awful lot of promise when he was here. Crucially, I think he's at a stage in his career now where he could really 'come on' and develop into a great player. A loan with option would be a no-lose situation for us.[/ Well said.... I agree 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 13 September, 2011 Share Posted 13 September, 2011 He left looking for first team football, and I don't think that looks more likely for him now then it did then. If I read the runes right this was our problem with Billy Sharpe, i.e. he wanted a guaranteed start and nobody is getting that at Saints anymore. They will all have to muck in, help the team and compete for places. That is the kind of squad NA wants, and he isn't going to take any risks with those who think that they are first amongst quals. This makes it a bit more difficult to sign the better known (stars?) players. They'd better arrive with solid confidence to feel certain that if they're on their game they will get picked. I think that is the kind of player NA wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benali Saint Posted 13 September, 2011 Share Posted 13 September, 2011 He was always highly rated. But seems to not be fulfilling his potential now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 13 September, 2011 Share Posted 13 September, 2011 He was poor for us first time, not sure he is what we need now. When exactly was he poor for us? Made his Premier league debut out of position at left back against Chelsea then got dumped at right back. The few games I remember seeing him actually at centre back like the Championship play off second leg he was outstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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