Should Brighton be investigated for Saturdays game ?

[SaintRichmond]

I am aware this will fan the flames, but I spoke to a Brighton ST holder at work this morning, who went to the game. He said Gus picked the wrong team, packing the midfield and playing one up front. He said as soon as the team was read out, he turned to his mate and said they'd lose. They picked their smallest striker as the loan front man, played someone at right back who had been out with injury for 4 months, where he thought the guy that had been filling in (a loanee) had been playing ok in the meantime. He went on to say that they had no "out ball" as a result as everything kept coming back and that when Brighton fed the ball out to the full backs from the keeper, they were closed down really fast.

 

He said that, together with the keeper having a mare, gave them little chance.

 

That's OK then. Just for a minute I thought people were accusing Poyet of not picking his strongest team possible ........ as you are supposed to do as per the Spineless F L

[Dig Dig]

I am aware this will fan the flames, but I spoke to a Brighton ST holder at work this morning, who went to the game. He said Gus picked the wrong team, packing the midfield and playing one up front. He said as soon as the team was read out, he turned to his mate and said they'd lose. They picked their smallest striker as the loan front man, played someone at right back who had been out with injury for 4 months, where he thought the guy that had been filling in (a loanee) had been playing ok in the meantime. He went on to say that they had no "out ball" as a result as everything kept coming back and that when Brighton fed the ball out to the full backs from the keeper, they were closed down really fast.

 

He said that, together with the keeper having a mare, gave them little chance.

 

Anyone can look back on a 6-0 hammering and point towards team selection, tatics and individual errors otherwise there would never be any thrashings when teams from within the same division play each other.

 

Poyetr has also been critised many times this season over odd team selection so this isn't new for him.

 

Lets not start embarrassing ourselves through sour grapes. What happened happened and now the lads just have to win tomorrow to put us back on track.

 

FFS.

Edited 16 April, 2012 by Dig Dig

[alpine_saint]

I dont know how the game went because I didnt see it. I will check the answer to the question I am about to ask in a minute.

 

Question: seeing as how utterly tits up it was going, and taking your post into account, how soon Did Poyet CHANGE the team with substitutions to try to get the game back on the rails and therefore try to save his play offs campaign ?

 

Answer : He did nothing for over 40mins. Not conclusive, but not exactly exonerating either.....

[Window Cleaner]

Brighton will certainly not be investigated for their performance unless there had been unusual betting activity on the match.

Having seen it all I can say(to paraphrase Dolly Parton) is Brezovan must work really hard on being as shîte as he was in the first

11 minutes,you need more than just natural ineptitude to be that bad.

 

Bart's performance at home against Blackpool was just a non starter on the crapness scale in comparison.

[KelvinsRightGlove]

The absolutely ear-steaming outrage that this sheer notion has caused is really quite shocking.

 

Is there some sort of refusal to consider the possibility because it means we as SFC fans and our clubs have all been made monkeys uncles out of the situation or something ?

 

Up to 90 MILLION pounds windfall rides on being promoted. If you all want to deny that there is absolutely no chance that with such money at stake someone doesnt try to increase the odds of their interested party, you are totally naiive and bonkers.

 

The days of cucumber sandwiches on the village pavillion at tea during an Sunday afteroon cricket match in modern-day sport is GONE. Its all about MONEY.

 

Yes & Brighton still have an outside chance of making the play-offs, and in that 'lottery' may well get promoted.

 

It may seem unlikely, but stranger things happen quite regularly in footyball.

 

The very same £90m windfall was not out of reach for Brighton, so for them to throw the game over some over-hyped non-rivalry with us is just ridiculous.

 

A line of argument with holes bigger than an 80 year old hooker.

[Jez]

The absolutely ear-steaming outrage that this sheer notion has caused is really quite shocking.

 

Is there some sort of refusal to consider the possibility because it means we as SFC fans and our clubs have all been made monkeys uncles out of the situation or something ?

 

 

Its more the fact you've not even watched the game, and make ridiculous statements about the player who scored the own goal doing it on purpose. It just leaves you with no credibility whatsoever. Not that you had anyway in the first place of course.

 

You say its all about money too, but yet, who would have offered Poyet/the goalkeeper/the player who scored the own goal/the physio/the entire team more money than they would have got if they won promotion anyway? Some random person betting in the Far East? Sam Allardyce? The Mousse from TalkSport? Someone from the FA?

 

You seem to base it on the fact you distrust Poyet in your OP. As a manager, not sure it would be possible to "motivate" your players to concede 3 goals that quickly, or lose any game at all in fact.

 

But keep typing Alpine, you are bringing a smile to many very nervous Saints fans in the build up to tomorrow's game.

[alpine_saint]

Yes & Brighton still have an outside chance of making the play-offs, and in that 'lottery' may well get promoted.

 

It may seem unlikely, but stranger things happen quite regularly in footyball.

 

The very same £90m windfall was not out of reach for Brighton, so for them to throw the game over some over-hyped non-rivalry with us is just ridiculous.

 

A line of argument with holes bigger than an 80 year old hooker.

 

Apart from the fact that you are assuming a collective decision making process involving chairman, manager and all the players.

 

Dont be so ridiculous.

[Dig Dig]

Brighton will certainly not be investigated for their performance unless there had been unusual betting activity on the match.

Having seen it all I can say(to paraphrase Dolly Parton) is Brezovan must work really hard on being as shîte as he was in the first

11 minutes,you need more than just natural ineptitude to be that bad.

 

Bart's performance at home against Blackpool was just a non starter on the crapness scale in comparison.

 

I guess someone must have lined Barts pockets for the Blackpool at home game then?

[Window Cleaner]

I guess someone must have lined Barts pockets for the Blackpool at home game then?

 

no that's not what I'm saying,it's just a reference scale for those who haven't seen the game.Bart wasn't great to be sure but Brezovan made him look like Van De Saar on a good day.

[alpine_saint]

Anyone....ANYONE ? want to try to explain why Gussie The Baboon-Faced One didnt try and turn the game around for over 40mins ????

[dune]

Anyone....ANYONE ? want to try to explain why Gussie The Baboon-Faced One didnt try and turn the game around for over 40mins ????

 

Nobody cares.

[richardc]

OK - case for the prosecution

Rumour came out Sat that Poyet is off to Chelsea

3 page thread on North Stand Chat questioning the team he put out including the dropping of their most potent strikier CMS!!

conclusion he is more worried about next season and sees SFC as biggest threat so would rather see WHA promoted therefore threw the game

presecution rests his case mi lord

[Window Cleaner]

Rumour came out Sat that Poyet is off to Chelsea

 

Tea boy resigned has he ?

[Whitey Grandad]

OK - case for the prosecution

Rumour came out Sat that Poyet is off to Chelsea

3 page thread on North Stand Chat questioning the team he put out including the dropping of their most potent strikier CMS!!

conclusion he is more worried about next season and sees SFC as biggest threat so would rather see WHA promoted therefore threw the game

presecution rests his case mi lord

 

Should that have been prosecution or persecution?

[Dig Dig]

no that's not what I'm saying,it's just a reference scale for those who haven't seen the game.Bart wasn't great to be sure but Brezovan made him look like Van De Saar on a good day.

 

If Bart hadn't got the protection of the defence after the 2 he conceded he could have well continued his horror show that day. Luckily, Blackpool didn't create much in the second half that day.

 

Point is, once a keeper has lost his confidence and bottle, especially away from home, all of them are more than capable of having a complete mare. I've seen the highlights of the game at the weekend and other than for the first goal, I can't think of another which you could directly attribute to the goalie alone.

[alpine_saint]

Nobody cares.

 

Right, then STFU. You have no right to judge the discussion as ridiculous if you dont even want to consider the facts of the events.

[alpine_saint]

OK - case for the prosecution

Rumour came out Sat that Poyet is off to Chelsea

3 page thread on North Stand Chat questioning the team he put out including the dropping of their most potent strikier CMS!!

conclusion he is more worried about next season and sees SFC as biggest threat so would rather see WHA promoted therefore threw the game

presecution rests his case mi lord

 

confused.com.

 

Hes worried about Saints beating Chelsea ???

[mcjwills]

I think the only thing that should be investigated is reports that Gus was lying on his back with all 4 paws in the air and Fat Sam tickling his tummy, saying good dog, good dog.

[aintforever]

West Ham had been threatening to do that to someone, they battered Reading for the whole first half by all accounts. Unless there is any evidence of wrongdoing this thread is b*ll*x

[Thedelldays]

West Ham had been threatening to do that to someone, they battered Reading for the whole first half by all accounts. Unless there is any evidence of wrongdoing this thread is b*ll*x

they humped brum in the 2nd half too

[alpine_saint]

West Ham had been threatening to do that to someone, they battered Reading for the whole first half by all accounts. Unless there is any evidence of wrongdoing this thread is b*ll*x

 

bit of a chicken-egg situation that.

 

I see practical issues with identifying any wrong doing, such as on what basis an investigation should start. I suppose I would go with the suggestion of earlier - start an investigation if any odd betting was taking place.

[dune]

Right, then STFU. You have no right to judge the discussion as ridiculous if you dont even want to consider the facts of the events.

 

I consider myself told.

[doddisalegend]

OK - case for the prosecution

Rumour came out Sat that Poyet is off to Chelsea

3 page thread on North Stand Chat questioning the team he put out including the dropping of their most potent strikier CMS!!

conclusion he is more worried about next season and sees SFC as biggest threat so would rather see WHA promoted therefore threw the game

presecution rests his case mi lord

 

Makes perfect sense

[doddisalegend]

West Ham had been threatening to do that to someone, they battered Reading for the whole first half by all accounts. Unless there is any evidence of wrongdoing this thread is b*ll*x

 

That's becoming a bit of a theme Brighton, saints and WHU all battered Reading and all lost.....

[Thedelldays]

That's becoming a bit of a theme Brighton, saints and WHU all battered Reading and all lost.....

if reading employ this tactic next year..they will get absolutely humped most weeks

[pap]

Big lols @ Alps playing the victim again.

 

Can we have some wallowing too please, Alps?

[Window Cleaner]

That's becoming a bit of a theme Brighton, saints and WHU all battered Reading and all lost.....

 

Says something for McDermott's system more than anything else.

They'll do well in the Prem, got all the attributes and quite a big squad already.

[Thedelldays]

Says something for McDermott's system more than anything else.

They'll do well in the Prem, got all the attributes and quite a big squad already.

not with those tactics they won't

[Pilchards]

I thought something was fishy when I saw this photo after the own goal was scored.

 

[Sour Mash]

While any sort of bribe is very, very unlikely, anyone that watched the game/extended highlights, the level of poor defending was more than just a bad day at the office, it was the worst I've seen for a long, long time in any game and this from a half decent Brighton side. Certainly a very "strange" performance if nothing else.

[Noodles34]

3 pages on this, you lot you be ashamed of entertaining (and basically w anking off) this nob.

[BadgerBadger]

3 pages on this, you lot you be ashamed of entertaining (and basically w anking off) this nob.

 

this /\ but I do think the OP is a veiled cry for help from Alps, the stress of this promotion push is finally taking it's toll

[S-Clarke]

this /\ but I do think the OP is a veiled cry for help from Alps, the stress of this promotion push is finally taking it's toll

 

I think he's finally snapped.

[shirleysfc]

This thread is a wind up... yeah?

[influx]

I have already stated my belief that we have zero chance in the playoffs, for a number of reasons.

 

If you are asking me who would win if the playoff 1st round was Brighton v Saints, I genuninely think Brighton would win; Poyet would manage to motivate his team for that alright.But Brighton would get hammered in the final.

 

Zero chance?? What the **** are you one fella??

[saint michael]

I watched the game and their goalkeeper made Barts performance against Blackpool look class, I thought that I had missed something in the warm up and they had an outfield player in goal

 

I think though that they just had a crappy day and it just was bad timing for us I am afraid

[hasper57saint]

Cast your mind back to 1978 when Saints and Spurs allegedly colluded to achieve a 0-0 draw which meant both sides automatically went up and depriving (on goal difference) guess who. Yep you've guessed it Brighton. I remember it well and there were allegations from B and HA fans that we had deliberately not gone for a win. I saw the game and it was a strange affair because we could have won the title with a victory and yet apart from a Tony Funnell shot which hit a post, we did not look interested. Pay back time?

I remember it well. In fact we often bring it up in conversation. had we beat spurs they would have stayed down and Brighton gone up with us. Strange that 'we don't do that over here'. Testes!!! Two Manure dodgy penalties eh? We don't do it over here right?

[Tom28]

I thought I explained that in my post.

 

I was inviting a discussion about it, and as per usual its turned into abuse.

 

Why are we really so reluctant to consider the possibility that we get aggressive ? Are we worried about what it says about the game or the nation ?

 

Look, there is SERIOUS F**KING MONEY riding on promotion to the PL. Everything else is secondary.

 

Considered. And, rejected. Utter nonsense.

 

What's more, you know it's nonsense, and you know that you would have had this reaction. I don't know why the rest of us play along in your attention seeking games.

[Window Cleaner]

Anyway you have to draw the line somewhere,Brighton missed a penalty against Reading as well, you'd have to look at that as well if suspicion were to fall upon them.Brezovan was crap and blew the game for his side before it had hardly started, you just need don't to look any further than that.It's not about Brighton it's about Brezovan and no-one else.He was just crap,no doubt Ankergren will start the next game.

[timb289]

Ridiculous threads like this is something TSW should not be associated with! Complete embarrassment!

[Sour Mash]

Anyway you have to draw the line somewhere,Brighton missed a penalty against Reading as well, you'd have to look at that as well if suspicion were to fall upon them.Brezovan was crap and blew the game for his side before it had hardly started, you just need don't to look any further than that.It's not about Brighton it's about Brezovan and no-one else.He was just crap,no doubt Ankergren will start the next game.

He was s****e, but so was the rest of their defending, certainly more than just a bad day.

[St Lej]

Ridiculous threads like this is something TSW should not be associated with! Complete embarrassment!

 

The OP is simply an embarrassment in himself. He is one tedious piece of work

[beatlesaint]

If you want to investigate this alpine then perhaps you should ask for Crystal Palace to be considered as they put a lot of youngsters out against us last Monday.

Or Barnsley against us, West Ham and just about everyone they have played all season.....

[anothersaintinsouthsea]

This thread still going - absolutely embarrassing. In other news, the football league are investigating whether or not Southampton threw their two games against Bristol City earlier in the season after two terrible performances that confounded the form book......

[dune]

It's the ****s who keep bumping it up.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Doh.

[JackFrost]

[alpine_saint]

This thread still going - absolutely embarrassing. In other news, the football league are investigating whether or not Southampton threw their two games against Bristol City earlier in the season after two terrible performances that confounded the form book......

 

 

Yes, you are so embarassed and outraged, that you posted on it again.

 

Not too bright, eh ?

[Stu Man Do]

Right, then STFU. You have no right to judge the discussion as ridiculous if you dont even want to consider the facts of the events.

 

Are you suggesting you actually have FACTS to back up this rubbish? Sour grapes or what! Look at the highlights half their goals are super strikes.

 

As Delboy would say ... You Plonk'aaaa

[Saint86]

Watch highlihgts, and watch own goal, that is a 1/100 attempt, if he can do that he'd be going to barca.

[SW5 SAINT]

I have answered this twice already. But for the benefit of the illiterate.........

 

Yes, it is a possibility, because they would have had NO chance in the playoffs.

 

Not sure I agree Brighton would have no chance in the play offs. Its only 2 years since Blackpool finished 6th and went up thru play offs. Indeed wham themselves finished 6th in 2005 and went up through play offs!