Southampton Top Exclusion Table

[Gemmel]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-23935317

 

Wow - Do we have a higher percentage of toe rags or just enforce policy in a stricter fashion?

 

It seems a very high number. In my day, a suspension of exclusion was a really big deal and very rare.

[dubai_phil]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-23935317

 

Wow - Do we have a higher percentage of toe rags or just enforce policy in a stricter fashion?

 

It seems a very high number. In my day, a suspension of exclusion was a really big deal and very rare.

 

That explains many of the posters on here then...........

[alpine_saint]

"Nearly one in 5" ???

 

F**king hell. In my day too, it was an utter disgrace to be suspended or expelled. Nowadays, it seems to be a badge of honour (though I suspect the threshold is lower now, too..)

[Patrick Bateman]

I still don't get temporary exclusion - it's hardly a punishment, is it?

 

"You've been naughty, go home for a week" ... ?

[stevegrant]

I still don't get temporary exclusion - it's hardly a punishment, is it?

 

"You've been naughty, go home for a week" ... ?

Yeah, I always thought that was a bit of a strange one

[buctootim]

I think the idea is that it punishes the parents ("look after your toerag and instil some discipline otherwise he'll be home much more often") plus it gives the other 29 kids in the class a break from the disruptive influence.

[LGTL]

It's virtually impossible to get permanent exclusions, you can bet they all deserved it. I teach on the Island and some of the things kids do that don't result in expulsion you wouldn't believe.

 

I've always thought internal exclusions work better. Get them in a small room, all by themselves with no mates, games consoles etc. Otherwise they see it as a jolly.

[View From The Top]

Where I teach they use internal exclusions as they are a punishment which we can control where external exclusions (which are virtually impossible to get anyway) usually result is them slobbing about as parents don't give a toss.

 

99.99% are hoddie rats that are no more than oxygen thieves.

[Jonnyboy]

Where I teach they use internal exclusions as they are a punishment which we can control where external exclusions (which are virtually impossible to get anyway) usually result is them slobbing about as parents don't give a toss.

 

99.99% are hoddie rats that are no more than oxygen thieves.

 

Do they respond well to that description?

[Viking Warrior]

You beat me to it Phil about them being on here lol

[CB Saint]

"Nearly one in 5" ???

 

F**king hell. In my day too, it was an utter disgrace to be suspended or expelled. Nowadays, it seems to be a badge of honour (though I suspect the threshold is lower now, too..)

 

It is all the schools really have left. At the risk of going on about "in my day", 30 years ago the heads size 12 plimsoll used to be the serious detterrant at my school, however before you got to that you were likely to have received a cuff round the ear by the teacher or the b0llocking of you life. Suspension was rare - even fighting never warrented that (unless you did a proper job on your opponent). Exclusions were unheard of - the deed had to be borderline criminal for that sanction to be invoked.

[Window Cleaner]

What can you expect, most parents are sh*t at the job because they're not really interested, was down on the beach at Palavas the other day, half of the parents spend all day gazing at Smartphones and the kids do whatever they want.

[benjii]

Where I teach they use internal exclusions as they are a punishment which we can control where external exclusions (which are virtually impossible to get anyway) usually result is them slobbing about as parents don't give a toss.

 

99.99% are hoddie rats that are no more than oxygen thieves.

 

Whilst I'm sure they are sub-human scum, your lack of professionalism is shameful.

[Secret Site Agent]

I fought the LEA back in the early 90's over my son, as he has Aspergers, and in those days it was in it's infancy, (I paid many hundreds of pounds to get him diagnosed and he appears in the text books now) because he was being forced to only attend school in the mornings, as they labelled him a 'naughty little boy'. The day I informed the school that he was attending full time, they excluded him. Treated us like carp because it would open the flood gates if they educated him correctly, they just wanted to stick him in an exclusion unit and forget all about him. Sued the LEA, the school and they ruined his education. It galls me now that the type of education he needed, they give out freely now. I know because my Mrs works in a school giving this sort of support.

There are toe rags out there, and there are bad parents as well, some of them are only children themselves, but soemtimes it's the easy option for schools rather than tackling the problem. They concentrate on educating those that can be educated and forget the rest. Then they go out into the job market unable to perform the most basic of functions. We have a large number of those in the construction industry for whom school was a non starter. I have been involved in a project to teach two of them to read and write. But you give them a task, and they do a good days graft, from 7 in the morning to 5 at night, and have skills that raise them above being dummies.

And if I have to give another induction to a bunch of Graduates who spend the whole session staring at thier bloody i-phones, i'll make sure an industrial accident befalls them.

 

The phones, not the graduates.

[The9]

Where I teach they use internal exclusions as they are a punishment which we can control where external exclusions (which are virtually impossible to get anyway) usually result is them slobbing about as parents don't give a toss.

 

99.99% are hoddie rats that are no more than oxygen thieves.

 

You beat me to it Phil about them being on here lol

 

Whilst I'm sure they are sub-human scum, your lack of professionalism is shameful.

 

He's not a teacher on here. Though mis-spelling "hoodie" doesn't help.

[View From The Top]

He's not a teacher on here. Though mis-spelling "hoodie" doesn't help.

 

Lucky I teach maths.

 

Probably shouldn't have called them that but as I'd had to deal with one spitting in the face of a 55yo LSA & threatening to ra.pe her simply because she asked him to take his hat off left me in a foul mood. Not aided my the mother saying "she looks like she needs a good fu.cking" in front of the boy in question.

 

Today was better. Today I had a young lady ask me if I'd ever been eaten by a shark and another one ask me if mermaids were real animals.

[whelk]

All you judgemental sorts should look into the inclusion policy. So many kids with special educational needs cannot cope in mainstream schools. No funding for special schools. Mainstream school can't cope and leads to many exclusions. But hey don't let that stop you condemning them as worthless scum

[Secret Site Agent]

All you judgemental sorts should look into the inclusion policy. So many kids with special educational needs cannot cope in mainstream schools. No funding for special schools. Mainstream school can't cope and leads to many exclusions. But hey don't let that stop you condemning them as worthless scum

 

Oh yes, you get a +1 from me.

 

My son was treated like the scum of the Earth. It was suggested that we, the 'Parents' were to blame for being educationally sub-normal, and leading him to be the same.

 

But Mr Teacher, not only do I have some education, I have more qualifications than you. And if we, his parents are to blame, how come his Sister is top in all her classes, (she now has a masters degree in Media and Advertising). And why is it after spending £600 we couldn't really afford on extra tuition was the private tutor able in 8 weeks able to raise his reading level by 2 years, when you could even do that in 8 months?

 

Sorry, a little bitter i'm afraid. Two sides to every coin.

[Clapham Saint]

It is all the schools really have left. At the risk of going on about "in my day", 30 years ago the heads size 12 plimsoll used to be the serious detterrant at my school, however before you got to that you were likely to have received a cuff round the ear by the teacher or the b0llocking of you life. Suspension was rare - even fighting never warrented that (unless you did a proper job on your opponent). Exclusions were unheard of - the deed had to be borderline criminal for that sanction to be invoked.

 

In my day "We'll need to call your parents" was a threat that put the fear of god into any child in the school.

 

Now it seems that "I'm going to call my parents" is a threat employed by the students

[View From The Top]

All you judgemental sorts should look into the inclusion policy. So many kids with special educational needs cannot cope in mainstream schools. No funding for special schools. Mainstream school can't cope and leads to many exclusions. But hey don't let that stop you condemning them as worthless scum

 

Not sure I agree with that part, although I do with the general sentiment.

 

In my experience teachers fight tooth and nail, especially the SENCO teams, to help all SEN kids but in some cases are simply overwhelmed. In addition, they are now much more clued up regarding ADHD, Aspergers etc. Sill a long way to go though.

[whelk]

Agree and not blaming the schools - they do their best with what they have, they just don't have enough. Exclusion is often the only course of action - if only there was somewhere for them to go. Once gone though all the appeals etc often the kids have missed a fair chunk of their education.