Glasgow_Saint Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 hypothetical question maybe.... But keep hearing "keeping mopo is the most important" then "keeping hold of our players is our no.1 priority" So if you had to pick just one to stay, who would you pick...? Mopo* or the players? * if players leave mopo is allowed to spend 50% of the transfer in fund Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 Strong feeling one will lead to the other. So, Mopo to stay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 Not playing. Rubbish game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 24 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 24 April, 2014 Players for me. We have the best squad of players for 30 years and any manager worth his salt could be successful with our current squad imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 Mopo goes players will go so will have to go MoPo. At least we keep one that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 Keeping Pochettino IMO helps us keep the players. However, if it had to be one OR the other, then the players staying put wins every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 Players for me. We have the best squad of players for 30 years and any manager worth his salt could be successful with our current squad imho But no Mopo means no players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 24 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 24 April, 2014 Strong feeling one will lead to the other. So, Mopo to stay Didnt we say Nicola was the glue and everyone would leave with him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 Didnt we say Nicola was the glue and everyone would leave with him? No, no-one said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 24 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 24 April, 2014 But no Mopo means no players. Im sure it was no Nicola no players... Im confused, keeps changing Heres a thought, maybe no players would leave if mopo left. Last club that had a big exit of players because manager left??? Thats right... None, never Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 Im sure it was no Nicola no players... Im confused, keeps changing Heres a thought, maybe no players would leave if mopo left. Last club that had a big exit of players because manager left??? Thats right... None, never Who said it was Nicola goes, they all go? Think you're making stuff up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 Im sure it was no Nicola no players... Im confused, keeps changing Heres a thought, maybe no players would leave if mopo left. Last club that had a big exit of players because manager left??? Thats right... None, never You're right again pal. When Nicola was here the players were only here because of his vision and drive, now he's gone they're only here back use of poch. Could it be that they're actually here because they're on decent money and we're one of the best clubs in the Corey to play for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 Glasgow or Barry? If you had the misfortune to be locked in the room with both, had a gun, but only one bullet, who would you choose to shoot, and who would you try and kill with your bare hands? Too tough for me to call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 If I was trapped in a room with them two that bullet would be for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 24 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 24 April, 2014 Who said it was Nicola goes, they all go? Think you're making stuff up again. Have a read through this mate... Day Nicola left and days after, mass hysterics about mopo, players leaving. Did they - no. Will they because mopo goes - no http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?48561-Cortese-has-left-Southampton-Football-Club-Officially-Confirmed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 24 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 24 April, 2014 If I was trapped in a room with them two that bullet would be for me. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 If I was trapped in a room with them two that bullet would be for me. Genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westofshannonsaint Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 Players for me. Keep the team together. How many managers has Lallana & Schneiderlin seen come and go at Saints? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 (edited) How many players? I'd lose one or two big ones (but not Lallana) to keep Pochettino, not least because his work with the players partly accounts for why we value them so highly. He's brought out the best in so many of them. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited 24 April, 2014 by DuncanRG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 The only hypothetical scenario is actually keeping MP and the players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 Have a read through this mate... Day Nicola left and days after, mass hysterics about mopo, players leaving. Did they - no. Will they because mopo goes - no http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?48561-Cortese-has-left-Southampton-Football-Club-Officially-Confirmed You have shown that you will admit when you have given a floored opinion or knee jerk reaction that has been wrong. You should cut others some slack and refrain from the petty and some what tedious game of 'but so and so said'. You can be the bigger man by side stepping this hardly avoidable yet pathetic side of an adult football club supporting forum. Make a stand, change the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 Players for me definitely. I think there's plenty of managers who could have got the same points total with this squad of players. Don't get me wrong, MP is a good manager, but not as great as everyone says. People give Glasgow abuse for mentioning his 34% win percentage, but at the end of the day it's a fact, and a stat that makes disappointing reading. We appear to have several players wanted by all the big clubs, so surely 8th/9th place should be a minimum expectation with the squad we have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 Yeah for next season Tony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 24 April, 2014 Share Posted 24 April, 2014 I meant as in this season. Of couse he has achieved it, but also at the expense of trying to win a cup. If Lallana, Shaw and Schneiderlin as an example, left in the summer, I'd be gutted. If MP left, there's plenty of good managers who would take the job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 25 April, 2014 Share Posted 25 April, 2014 Christ, you just get more and more moronic. When you say players leave do you mean the entire squad and we start again from scratch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 25 April, 2014 Share Posted 25 April, 2014 IF MP left and the players stayed then Saints could always sell them for lots of money and replace them with the good ones from the academy. However what would happen if the new man didn't like to use young players being of the school "you don't win anything with kids" Would this mean the gradual decline of the production line coming from the academy? So in a few years when the new man departs will it be possible to re-build the academy quickly enough? IF MP stays and players leave will there be enough home grown youngsters to step up just in case the club only gives him a small part of the money from sales? Overall then I would rather MP stayed as long as he gets enough backing for Saints to stay in the PL - I hate relegations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 25 April, 2014 Share Posted 25 April, 2014 However what would happen if the new man didn't like to use young players being of the school "you don't win anything with kids" Would this mean the gradual decline of the production line coming from the academy? So in a few years when the new man departs will it be possible to re-build the academy quickly enough? lol: Yeah cos of course the board would appoint someone who wasn't interested in the academy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 25 April, 2014 Share Posted 25 April, 2014 I don't object to these hypotheticals normally but with no details too many permutations to consider. MP stays and we sell Hooiveld for £14m to Cardiff then would take that. MP stays and we sell Shaw for £7m, Lallana for £6 and loan Schneiderlin, Rodriguez, Lovren and Chambers to Newcastle and Villa then I would possibly prefer MP went. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 25 April, 2014 Share Posted 25 April, 2014 if we could add in as option that you retire from this forum to concentrate on being butt raped by a troop of baboons then i would take that and happily lose both the players and MoPo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 25 April, 2014 Share Posted 25 April, 2014 if we could add in as option that you retire from this forum to concentrate on being butt raped by a troop of baboons then i would take that and happily lose both the players and MoPo What makes you think Babboons are not choosy,I'm calling the RSPCA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 25 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 25 April, 2014 Players for me definitely. I think there's plenty of managers who could have got the same points total with this squad of players. Don't get me wrong, MP is a good manager, but not as great as everyone says. People give Glasgow abuse for mentioning his 34% win percentage, but at the end of the day it's a fact, and a stat that makes disappointing reading. We appear to have several players wanted by all the big clubs, so surely 8th/9th place should be a minimum expectation with the squad we have? Agreed!! Was chatting to a guy at golf at the weekend, got chatting about saints and he said "looks like youll lose a few players this summer" i responded by saying nah its just paper talk they love the club and the manager. He responded by saying.... "Why would they stay? Are they not ambitious, dont they want to win leagues and medals?" Cut through me like a knife. Realised that we are very very very unlikely to ever win the league and with mopos approach to cups we actually have very very little chance of winning a trophy of any kind. Best our players can hope for is a challenge for top 4. Made me think.... Rather than staying because of mopo, perhaps some will leave because of him. The rumoured bust up after the cup final, the drop off of performances since..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 25 April, 2014 Share Posted 25 April, 2014 But no Mopo means no players. Depends on the incoming manager. It would be easier to replace one man than many men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 25 April, 2014 Share Posted 25 April, 2014 Made me think.... Rather than staying because of mopo, perhaps some will leave because of him. The rumoured bust up after the cup final, the drop off of performances since..... Not one to be beaten by that other fella's claim that we intentionally lost games to stay in 8th... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenagegsaint Posted 25 April, 2014 Share Posted 25 April, 2014 definitely the players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 25 April, 2014 Share Posted 25 April, 2014 The rumoured bust up after the cup final omg what cup final??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 25 April, 2014 Share Posted 25 April, 2014 I wonder how different life on here would have been if Marion Pahars MkII (the latter years) and Capt Jack Sparrow had lived up to their potential and we were still in the mix for something this season. Yet here we are with our Saints supporting hats of years gone by on, discussing which disappointing development is going to kick us all in the wedding Vegetables over the closed season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Stickman Posted 25 April, 2014 Share Posted 25 April, 2014 omg what cup final??? In was an in-house affair played behind locked doors at St Mary’s – The Rested v The Rest. Result unknown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 25 April, 2014 Share Posted 25 April, 2014 GS rumoured bust up, yet again peddling myths to suit his agenda. Go to the Pompey board with your mates FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSteve Posted 25 April, 2014 Share Posted 25 April, 2014 Keep MP.. its no coincidence that MP's style of playing has enhanced the players reputation. I doubt all these media rumours would exist otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 25 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 25 April, 2014 definitely the players Agreed, but hopefully both players and mopo stay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 25 April, 2014 Share Posted 25 April, 2014 Both, let's keep on going! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrensup Posted 25 April, 2014 Share Posted 25 April, 2014 In isolation the players. But it seems we have to keep Poch to keep the players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 26 April, 2014 Share Posted 26 April, 2014 Yeah cos of course the board would appoint someone who wasn't interested in the academy. Well some Man Utd fans seem to think that their recently departed manager wasn't interested in theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 26 April, 2014 Share Posted 26 April, 2014 I don't object to these hypotheticals normally but with no details too many permutations to consider. MP stays and we sell Hooiveld for £14m to Cardiff then would take that. MP stays and we sell Shaw for £7m, Lallana for £6 and loan Schneiderlin, Rodriguez, Lovren and Chambers to Newcastle and Villa then I would possibly prefer MP went. Whatever the hell you are on for goodness sake stop now before you damage your brain even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 26 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 26 April, 2014 In isolation the players. But it seems we have to keep Poch to keep the players? **** myth alert **** See post 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 26 April, 2014 Share Posted 26 April, 2014 If MoPo goes there is always that Guardiola bloke to take over :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 26 April, 2014 Share Posted 26 April, 2014 **** myth alert **** See post 10 Early flight GS? Should be plenty of time for a beer;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 26 April, 2014 Share Posted 26 April, 2014 If MP would be replaced by 'many good managers' then surely this would be the case for the players as well. Replace everyone and everything I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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