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12 Managers in the last ten years, something is wrong!


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[TD=align: left]Harry Redknapp[/TD]

[TD]23px-Flag_of_England.svg.png England[/TD]

[TD=align: left]December 2004[/TD]

[TD=align: left]December 2005[/TD]

[TD=align: center]49[/TD]

[TD=align: center]13[/TD]

[TD=align: center]21[/TD]

[TD=align: center]15[/TD]

[TD=align: center]26.53[/TD]

[TD=align: left][/TD]

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[TD=align: left]Dave Bassett & Dennis Wise[/TD]

[TD]23px-Flag_of_England.svg.png England[/TD]

[TD=align: left]December 2005[/TD]

[TD=align: left]December 2005[/TD]

[TD=align: center]3[/TD]

[TD=align: center]1[/TD]

[TD=align: center]1[/TD]

[TD=align: center]1[/TD]

[TD=align: center]33.33[/TD]

[TD=align: left][/TD]

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[TD=align: left]George Burley[/TD]

[TD]23px-Flag_of_Scotland.svg.png Scotland[/TD]

[TD=align: left]December 2005[/TD]

[TD=align: left]January 2008[/TD]

[TD=align: center]109[/TD]

[TD=align: center]45[/TD]

[TD=align: center]25[/TD]

[TD=align: center]39[/TD]

[TD=align: center]41.28[/TD]

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[TD=align: left]John Gorman[/TD]

[TD]23px-Flag_of_England.svg.png England[/TD]

[TD=align: left]January 2008[/TD]

[TD=align: left]February 2008[/TD]

[TD=align: center]6[/TD]

[TD=align: center]1[/TD]

[TD=align: center]1[/TD]

[TD=align: center]4[/TD]

[TD=align: center]16.67[/TD]

[TD=align: left][/TD]

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[TD=align: left]Nigel Pearson[/TD]

[TD]23px-Flag_of_England.svg.png England[/TD]

[TD=align: left]February 2008[/TD]

[TD=align: left]May 2008[/TD]

[TD=align: center]14[/TD]

[TD=align: center]3[/TD]

[TD=align: center]7[/TD]

[TD=align: center]4[/TD]

[TD=align: center]21.43[/TD]

[TD=align: left][/TD]

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[TD=align: left]Jan Poortvliet[/TD]

[TD]23px-Flag_of_the_Netherlands.svg.png Netherlands[/TD]

[TD=align: left]May 2008[/TD]

[TD=align: left]January 2009[/TD]

[TD=align: center]32[/TD]

[TD=align: center]8[/TD]

[TD=align: center]8[/TD]

[TD=align: center]16[/TD]

[TD=align: center]25.00[/TD]

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[TD=align: left]Mark Wotte[/TD]

[TD]23px-Flag_of_the_Netherlands.svg.png Netherlands[/TD]

[TD=align: left]January 2009[/TD]

[TD=align: left]July 2009[/TD]

[TD=align: center]18[/TD]

[TD=align: center]4[/TD]

[TD=align: center]7[/TD]

[TD=align: center]7[/TD]

[TD=align: center]22.22[/TD]

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[TD=align: left]Alan Pardew[/TD]

[TD]23px-Flag_of_England.svg.png England[/TD]

[TD=align: left]July 2009[/TD]

[TD=align: left]August 2010[/TD]

[TD=align: center]64[/TD]

[TD=align: center]34[/TD]

[TD=align: center]17[/TD]

[TD=align: center]13[/TD]

[TD=align: center]53.13[/TD]

[TD=align: left]1 Football League Trophy[/TD]

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[TD=align: left]Dean Wilkins[/TD]

[TD]23px-Flag_of_England.svg.png England[/TD]

[TD=align: left]August 2010[/TD]

[TD=align: left]September 2010[/TD]

[TD=align: center]3[/TD]

[TD=align: center]0[/TD]

[TD=align: center]0[/TD]

[TD=align: center]3[/TD]

[TD=align: center]0.00[/TD]

[TD=align: left][/TD]

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[TD=align: left]Nigel Adkins[/TD]

[TD]23px-Flag_of_England.svg.png England[/TD]

[TD=align: left]September 2010[/TD]

[TD=align: left]January 2013[/TD]

[TD=align: center]124[/TD]

[TD=align: center]67[/TD]

[TD=align: center]25[/TD]

[TD=align: center]32[/TD]

[TD=align: center]54.03[/TD]

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[TD=align: left]Mauricio Pochettino[/TD]

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I know managers come and go and the culture of managers easily being in the firing line/ showing little or no loyalty but surely this is alarming? the next appointment will be our 13th manager, unlucky for some hey?

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I know managers come and go and the culture of managers easily being in the firing line/ showing little or no loyalty but surely this is alarming? the next appointment will be our 13th manager, unlucky for some hey?

 

The current board haven't sacked a manager, they just lost one to a bigger club. They shouldn't be judged on what happened in the previous decade, as it had nothing to do with them.

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"Something is wrong", what exactly? We've had four or five different owners/chairmen in that time (Lowe, Wilde, Crouch, Dulieu, Cortese, Krueger - so 6 actually) what are you suggesting is the overall problem binding all of them?

Why not check similar stats for the rest of the Prem teams - or even better, for teams that have had two relegations, two promotions and an administration in that period.

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so 8 in the last ten years

 

Take off Burley who resigned for the Scotch job, and Redknapp who resigned for being a **** and that's down to 6.

 

Wotte - a new owner came in and replaced him - perfectly understandable.

MP - resigning for something bigger

 

and that's down to 4

 

Pardew was having "problems" with players and their wives.

 

Adkins is Adkins and shouldn't be taken as the yard stick to judge us over the previous 10 years. Yes, his sacking was uncalled for, but the man responsible for hiring and firing him is no longer here.

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"Something is wrong", what exactly? We've had four or five different owners/chairmen in that time (Lowe, Wilde, Crouch, Dulieu, Cortese, Krueger - so 6 actually) what are you suggesting is the overall problem binding all of them?

Why not check similar stats for the rest of the Prem teams - or even better, for teams that have had two relegations, two promotions and an administration in that period.

 

hmmm maybe saints inability to keep either manager or long term owners, my guess is there will shortly be another new owner, but yes you are right cant pinpoint the blame on any overall problem allthough Lowe was reknown for being a little trigger happy

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hmmm maybe saints inability to keep either manager or long term owners

 

The current board have only lost one manager and he left because a bigger club wanted him. That doesn't mean the club has a problem.

 

The current owner has been with the club for 4 years, with it being in the same family for 5 years. What more do you want from them?

 

my guess is there will shortly be another new owner

 

Based on what? I'd say Katharina Liebherr looks to be enjoying ownership more than ever since Cortese left. She is going to more games and even went to the staff match, not the sign of someone uninterested and looking to sell up after 4 years of ownership.

 

but yes you are right cant pinpoint the blame on any overall problem allthough Lowe was reknown for being a little trigger happy

 

As Rupert Lowe hasn't been chairman since 2009 how is he in any way relevant?

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Simply, it's easier and a darn sight cheaper to sack the 1 manager than it is to sack the 11-30 footballers that are under performing. Ergo it's the manager that suffers when the form is poor, even if it's not his fault.

 

It's a shame, but when money is so important in the modern game that relegation could spell disaster, the pressure is on Premier League managers to perform consistently successfully.

 

As for our managerial record in recent years, I don't think it's been too bad since the relegation season from the Championship.

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Isn't "MR X" one of Glasgow's logins?

 

Think it must be.

 

Why don't we look at it as two managers in three and a half years, one of which resigned for a better offer?

 

What's that, four wins in 16 games or something? I don't think form guides and managers work too well, Glasgow.

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A quote I like to drag out on occasions like this - from Nick Hornby's Fever Pitch, published in 1992:

 

"The following Saturday we were playing Second Division Sunderland in the FA Cup semi-final, and we lost that too. The two defeats prompted Bertie Mee to break the whole team up, but he never got a new one together again, and three years later he was gone."

 

Read it again! As recently as 1992, a writer found it remarkable that a manager got sacked "only" three years after failing! Make of that what you will!

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hmmm maybe saints inability to keep either manager or long term owners, my guess is there will shortly be another new owner, but yes you are right cant pinpoint the blame on any overall problem allthough Lowe was reknown for being a little trigger happy

 

Who are you referring to when you say "Saints"? It must be a person/group of people for you to comment on their ability to do anything.

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