Toomer Posted 4 August, 2008 Share Posted 4 August, 2008 (edited) IMHO if you don't want to stump up £5.00 for 12 months entertainment then don't, some will not just out of spite, where else could you get so many laughs for a fiver a year. Edited 4 August, 2008 by Toomer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 4 August, 2008 Share Posted 4 August, 2008 IMHO if you don't want to stump £5.00 for 12 months entertainment then don't, some will not just out of spite, where else could get so many laughs for a fiver a year. Cheap at a tenner imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 4 August, 2008 Share Posted 4 August, 2008 I think we should refrain from expressing an opinion as to anyone's personal decision whether or not to pay the £5. Everybody does what they want or can afford. That's it. Which is fine and of course true. However someone saying they have decided to "feed their family and run their car" rather than pay five quid a year to come on here is frankly preposterous and worthy of mockery. It should work both ways - people can take their personal decision and not be judged, fine, but they don't take the decision and at the same time take up some ridiculous moral high ground as justification. I'll venture Fletch spent more than a fiver on his lunch today, and I doubt his children will go hungry as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Posted 4 August, 2008 Share Posted 4 August, 2008 Which is fine and of course true. However someone saying they have decided to "feed their family and run their car" rather than pay five quid a year to come on here is frankly preposterous and worthy of mockery. Anyone who can feed their family and run their car for a fiver a year shouldn't be mocked at all - they're a bloody genius. I want to know how it's done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 August, 2008 Share Posted 4 August, 2008 Which is fine and of course true. However someone saying they have decided to "feed their family and run their car" rather than pay five quid a year to come on here is frankly preposterous and worthy of mockery. It should work both ways - people can take their personal decision and not be judged, fine, but they don't take the decision and at the same time take up some ridiculous moral high ground as justification. I'll venture Fletch spent more than a fiver on his lunch today, and I doubt his children will go hungry as a result. You're probably right, I don't know him as you seem to, however I still feel that to pay or not to pay shouldn't be a subject of discussion.Class war will soon break out,if it hasn't already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 4 August, 2008 Share Posted 4 August, 2008 I've just paid up well done to the mods for getting it up & running again. Lets hope the team get up & running just as quick when the season starts. Please PM me Roman when you get info on feeding the family ect for a £5 for a year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 4 August, 2008 Share Posted 4 August, 2008 Many thanks for recuing an invaluable site especially for us supporters based overseas! however I seem unable to get onto the subscribe page as I keep being told I am not logged in although I am? Also any help as to how to subscribe if overseas? Can I use a credit card or do i have to wait till I am in the Uk and use my UK cheque book? Your help as always would be much appreciated! Thirdly my number of posts which was well in the 200's seems to have shrunk to 40? Help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offix Posted 4 August, 2008 Share Posted 4 August, 2008 Very well done guys! And a ver reasonable subscription fee too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 4 August, 2008 Share Posted 4 August, 2008 Many thanks for recuing an invaluable site especially for us supporters based overseas! however I seem unable to get onto the subscribe page as I keep being told I am not logged in although I am? Try clearing out your cache and cookies and logging in again. Also any help as to how to subscribe if overseas? Can I use a credit card or do i have to wait till I am in the Uk and use my UK cheque book? You should be able to pay in any currency. I believe we've had overseas members pay already, presumably in Euros or USD. Thirdly my number of posts which was well in the 200's seems to have shrunk to 40? Long story. Short version is database crashed on Friday. Loads of posts were lost. Post counts reduced for pretty much everyone as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonah Posted 4 August, 2008 Share Posted 4 August, 2008 Ahhh, I finally see what's happened now. When I pay the £5 am I going to end up with avatars against every post/userid or can that be switched off/configured? I want to make sure I have a "low res" option which is a bit more discreet for work! (PS. Well done for getting it all switched over!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 4 August, 2008 Share Posted 4 August, 2008 Ahhh, I finally see what's happened now. When I pay the £5 am I going to end up with avatars against every post/userid or can that be switched off/configured? I want to make sure I have a "low res" option which is a bit more discreet for work! (PS. Well done for getting it all switched over!) We're hoping to have a "work-safe" skin in place shortly. In the meantime, the best option may be to view the forum using the "Archive" feature (link at the foot of the page) and then switch back to the normal view when you want to post something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoswellSaint Posted 4 August, 2008 Share Posted 4 August, 2008 Many thanks for recuing an invaluable site especially for us supporters based overseas! however I seem unable to get onto the subscribe page as I keep being told I am not logged in although I am? Also any help as to how to subscribe if overseas? Can I use a credit card or do i have to wait till I am in the Uk and use my UK cheque book? Your help as always would be much appreciated! Thirdly my number of posts which was well in the 200's seems to have shrunk to 40? Help Paypal lets you enter your credit card details to pay. Worked fine for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 4 August, 2008 Share Posted 4 August, 2008 Fletch Looks like we have something in common, I too run a web development company. I'd be greatly interested to hear about your experience with hosting high usage sites on either vps or scsp dedi servers, as you don't seem to really go into much depth in your post other than appearing as (and I don't mean this in an insulting way) a tyre kicker. The fact of the matter is, as I am sure you are aware being your own boss of an internet company, professional dedicated servers are an expensive business. I wont teach you how to suck eggs, but I'm sure you're aware that hosting something of this size on a vps will have us immediatley asked to leave (as has happened on multi-instances in the past) and the cheaper dedi servers are scsp or offer a limited bandwidth options. Also, I'm sure if you did the maths on request/response per client on match days, you would realise that even a cheap dedi with burstable b/w won't cut the mustard. I'd be happy to talk about this in far more depth with you on this thread if you wish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintIT Posted 4 August, 2008 Share Posted 4 August, 2008 Fletch Looks like we have something in common, I too run a web development company. I'd be greatly interested to hear about your experience with hosting high usage sites on either vps or scsp dedi servers, as you don't seem to really go into much depth in your post other than appearing as (and I don't mean this in an insulting way) a tyre kicker. The fact of the matter is, as I am sure you are aware being your own boss of an internet company, professional dedicated servers are an expensive business. I wont teach you how to suck eggs, but I'm sure you're aware that hosting something of this size on a vps will have us immediatley asked to leave (as has happened on multi-instances in the past) and the cheaper dedi servers are scsp or offer a limited bandwidth options. Also, I'm sure if you did the maths on request/response per client on match days, you would realise that even a cheap dedi with burstable b/w won't cut the mustard. I'd be happy to talk about this in far more depth with you on this thread if you wish? Whoever is managing this site, and this enforced change, has done extremely well. Well done people. Most Corporates would like to be able be this responsive and flexible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjinksie Posted 4 August, 2008 Share Posted 4 August, 2008 Tight ass less than 10p a week. scottish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Posted 4 August, 2008 Share Posted 4 August, 2008 Just a small thing: could we get rid of the stars? They seem so wussy on a seriously serious 'main board'. And to illustrate this lecture I hereby award this thread 5 gold ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSparky Posted 4 August, 2008 Share Posted 4 August, 2008 Hi Baj, Steve, I take it from the subscription pages that you are operating the site under http://www.ukdata.com/numbers/06471076.html ? Whether this is the case or not will you be publishing accounts annually? What is the plan for any profiles made? Thanks, Mark. PS... great work on getting the site up and running again, it looks top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 4 August, 2008 Share Posted 4 August, 2008 Hi Baj, Steve, I take it from the subscription pages that you are operating the site under http://www.ukdata.com/numbers/06471076.html ? Whether this is the case or not will you be publishing accounts annually? What is the plan for any profiles made? Thanks, Mark. PS... great work on getting the site up and running again, it looks top. Yes, that is us, and it is a legal requirement for us to publish our annual accounts at the end of our financial year, from which anyone can view them by accessing them at the companies house website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 4 August, 2008 Share Posted 4 August, 2008 Profile = profits? We have produced our business plan with the intention of turning over a very small operating profit in the order of a couple of hundred quid. Any profit left over will be put back into the business to improve the features on offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madruss Posted 4 August, 2008 Share Posted 4 August, 2008 Great job to all involved. I probably don't often post more than three times a day, but I think the £5 a year is a bloody bargain for a forum containing so many diverse and (at times hilariously) opposing views, all in the name of the mighty SFC. Plus of course there's always the chance of a genuine ITKer popping up with a bit of 'you heard it here first' big news :rolleyes: (and to top it off, the spinny eyes of the spinny-eyed smiley seem to be going faster than they did before!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt SFC Posted 4 August, 2008 Share Posted 4 August, 2008 Is this the only football forum that doesn't allow members to post more than three times in a 24 hour period, or start threads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSparky Posted 4 August, 2008 Share Posted 4 August, 2008 Profile = profits? We have produced our business plan with the intention of turning over a very small operating profit in the order of a couple of hundred quid. Any profit left over will be put back into the business to improve the features on offer. Thanks Baj (for both answers). Yes I meant profits but failed to read what I had written before posting (Doh!) which meant that editing was not possible as I have not got round to signing up just yet :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcity Posted 4 August, 2008 Share Posted 4 August, 2008 Profile = profits? We have produced our business plan with the intention of turning over a very small operating profit in the order of a couple of hundred quid. Any profit left over will be put back into the business to improve the features on offer. Spend hours of your own personal time for little reward and for some to assume that you are reaping the greatest harvest....welcome to the real world of companies house! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwaySaint1 Posted 4 August, 2008 Share Posted 4 August, 2008 Baj will you be taking "Expenses"cough cough for running the site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt SFC Posted 4 August, 2008 Share Posted 4 August, 2008 A fiver is a f*cking joke. Shame on you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 4 August, 2008 Share Posted 4 August, 2008 Fletch Looks like we have something in common, I too run a web development company. I'd be greatly interested to hear about your experience with hosting high usage sites on either vps or scsp dedi servers, as you don't seem to really go into much depth in your post other than appearing as (and I don't mean this in an insulting way) a tyre kicker. The fact of the matter is, as I am sure you are aware being your own boss of an internet company, professional dedicated servers are an expensive business. I wont teach you how to suck eggs, but I'm sure you're aware that hosting something of this size on a vps will have us immediatley asked to leave (as has happened on multi-instances in the past) and the cheaper dedi servers are scsp or offer a limited bandwidth options. Also, I'm sure if you did the maths on request/response per client on match days, you would realise that even a cheap dedi with burstable b/w won't cut the mustard. I'd be happy to talk about this in far more depth with you on this thread if you wish? Seems like Baj has detected eau de bull**** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 4 August, 2008 Share Posted 4 August, 2008 A fiver is a f*cking joke. Shame on you! Matt, don't waste your posts telling us that. We cherish the wisdom of your usual contributions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 4 August, 2008 Share Posted 4 August, 2008 A fiver is a f*cking joke. Shame on you! Everything should be free for students. Especially those with laptops, net access and a couple of chips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonah Posted 5 August, 2008 Share Posted 5 August, 2008 We're hoping to have a "work-safe" skin in place shortly. That would be great Steve (cheeky request: black on white would be even better if that's poss, it blends so nicely with Excel ;-)). I will check when I'm back from hols! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 5 August, 2008 Share Posted 5 August, 2008 I think that the new site set up is excellent and the lads are to be applauded for all their efforts. The cost of £5 really is minimal and there is even an option not to pay it, but still get three free posts from it. As with anything, nothing's for nothing. All the cheapskates will just have to make longer posts anticipating the responses and answering them too If they feel desperate to continue their debate after they have used their allocation, then they'll either have to return the following day, or cough up their fiver. Whilst they're about it, they can tell us where else they could get any form of entertainment for just 10p a day. I'm amazed if anybody said they couldn't afford it. After all, being on here mostly presumes that they have bought a computer and pay for broadband access. As for the students, either forego a couple of pints to pay for it, or add it onto your student debt. A fiver won't make much difference to the thousands you will end up paying anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadc76 Posted 5 August, 2008 Share Posted 5 August, 2008 well done to the lads for getting it up and running again. although i dont post that many times i still paid the £5 as it is well worth it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 5 August, 2008 Share Posted 5 August, 2008 A fiver is a f*cking joke. Shame on you! To be honest, I think I've seen about 5 people complain about the price. Also, you seem to whinge about how we run the forum regardless of whether it's free or subscription-based, so I would suggest you don't bother wasting your (or our) time and go and set up your own Saints forum on a similar platform and pay for it all out of your own pocket. I have a feeling we might be waiting some time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 5 August, 2008 Share Posted 5 August, 2008 I would pay the fiver if Steve replied to my e-mail!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 5 August, 2008 Share Posted 5 August, 2008 Baj will you be taking "Expenses"cough cough for running the site? No, in fact it will continue to cost me more money anyway due to providing my support services for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckster Von Doodle Posted 5 August, 2008 Share Posted 5 August, 2008 A fiver is a f*cking joke. Shame on you! I thought it was quite cheap! Its quite simple - put up or shut up!? You don't want to pay the fiver to post then don't. How many people have you seen moan? A handful if that, and thats because most people appreciate that it costs to run a forum like this. I belonged to another forum last year (not saints related) where it costs £25 a year for membership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlehead Posted 5 August, 2008 Share Posted 5 August, 2008 In fairness, Matt SFC is only 6 years old and he only gets £1 a month pocket money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwaySaint1 Posted 5 August, 2008 Share Posted 5 August, 2008 Whilst they're about it, they can tell us where else they could get any form of entertainment for just 10p a day. The P*mpey forum! its free. This club is a f*cking joke with its plc and a limited company forum offshot. What a mess to get in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 5 August, 2008 Share Posted 5 August, 2008 In fairness, Matt SFC is only 6 years old and he only gets £1 a month pocket money. So? he could get an advance from his Gran, cut back on fags and jamboree bags and sign up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 5 August, 2008 Share Posted 5 August, 2008 Good work all round fellas. From personal experience, ignore the whingers and moaners. £5 for a site that provides so much information, so many giggles and laughs (as well as making a few friends) is feck all in the scheme of things. Looking forward to seeing all the extra bits as well. PS how the **** do you edit your own posts (I clicked on edit and there was just a blak screen)????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 5 August, 2008 Share Posted 5 August, 2008 Good work all round fellas. From personal experience, ignore the whingers and moaners. £5 for a site that provides so much information, so many giggles and laughs (as well as making a few friends) is feck all in the scheme of things. Looking forward to seeing all the extra bits as well. PS how the **** do you edit your own posts (I clicked on edit and there was just a blak screen)????? When you click edit, it should dynamically turn your post into an edit box (although the quick reply box at the bottom will still be visible). It does seem to jump the screen to the wrong place, which is mildly annoying, and is probably one of the many little things we've got to iron out over the next few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 5 August, 2008 Share Posted 5 August, 2008 The P*mpey forum! its free. This club is a f*cking joke with its plc and a limited company forum offshot. What a mess to get in... What level of membership and posts does the P*mpey forum have? All this makes a vast difference to the running costs. For that matter, you could always use Foreversaints, which I'm pretty sure is free. You'd only be communicating with half a dozen other people on there, though... And are you seriously suggesting that this forum is an offshoot of SFC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 5 August, 2008 Share Posted 5 August, 2008 (edited) When you click edit, it should dynamically turn your post into an edit box (although the quick reply box at the bottom will still be visible). It does seem to jump the screen to the wrong place, which is mildly annoying, and is probably one of the many little things we've got to iron out over the next few weeks. You've just changed it you crafty ****er!!!!!!!!!!! I can now get the full edit box and text (was just geting a grey box with no text). Any chance of now popping round to set my food blender up (the instructions are in Mandarin)???? Edited 5 August, 2008 by um pahars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 5 August, 2008 Share Posted 5 August, 2008 This club is a f*cking joke with its plc and a limited company forum offshot. I think you should be careful about what you imply our limited company is for. We have no association with the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 5 August, 2008 Share Posted 5 August, 2008 I think you should be careful about what you imply our limited company is for. We have no association with the club. I think you'd have trouble suing him Baj. His grammar's so bad that it's almost down to individual interpretation as to what his post is supposed to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 5 August, 2008 Share Posted 5 August, 2008 The P*mpey forum! its free. This club is a f*cking joke with its plc and a limited company forum offshot. What a mess to get in... Well, if you're so enamoured with the Pompey forum, why don't you sod off there, then? Or as others have suggested to those skinflints who moan about it, go and set up your own forum and then see what it costs to run it. Anyway, this forum is free too for up to 3 posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Bob Posted 5 August, 2008 Share Posted 5 August, 2008 It still amazes me that people on here are complaining about £5 for a years subscription. It's one and a half pints or a packet of fags FFS. It's even more amusing that the people who are moaning the loudest are the ones wasting their free posts telling us what con-merchants we are. The world is a funny place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Bob Posted 5 August, 2008 Share Posted 5 August, 2008 A fiver is a f*cking joke. Shame on you! You're right there. I reckon we should have charged a tenner. It would still be very good value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletch Posted 6 August, 2008 Share Posted 6 August, 2008 You're right there. I reckon we should have charged a tenner. It would still be very good value. Good value? 6700 members, %15 take up on this £5 fee - £5025+ per annum. 6700 members, %50 take up? Very possible I think you will agree. - £16500+ per annum. Do we get shares in the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 6 August, 2008 Share Posted 6 August, 2008 Good value? 6700 members, %15 take up on this £5 fee - £5025+ per annum. 6700 members, %50 take up? Very possible I think you will agree. - £16500+ per annum. Do we get shares in the club? I'd be surprised if more than about 150 people have signed up so far. Which would only be 750 quid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletch Posted 6 August, 2008 Share Posted 6 August, 2008 I'd be surprised if more than about 150 people have signed up so far. Which would only be 750 quid. Your guessing, so am I. Using the world wide rule of sales - a widely used %5 figure, which to me is worst case scenario, that's still £3000+ And regarding 150 people - I've read posts from more than 150 who say they are going to take it up. I guess we shall see. Will we get a rebate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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