The9 Posted 8 January, 2015 Share Posted 8 January, 2015 God - some of you guys are right up your own backside leaping on a bit of hyperbole as though he meant it literally. His point was that compared to most League 1 players he appeared that way. And if you want to be literal neither AL or RL were geniuses either - just very good players (and I am a big fan of both) Decent though he was in L1, he didn't even get in the 2010-11 League 1 team of the season, "genius" is massively overstating his general "fair bit better than averageness". Pos. Player Club GK England Kelvin Davis * Southampton DF Spain Iñigo Calderón Brighton & Hove Albion DF Scotland Gordon Greer Brighton & Hove Albion DF Portugal José Fonte Southampton DF England Dan Harding Southampton MF Ireland Anthony Pilkington Huddersfield Town MF England Adam Lallana Southampton MF England Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain Southampton MF England Elliott Bennett Brighton & Hove Albion FW Scotland Craig Mackail-Smith Peterborough United FW England Bradley Wright-Phillips Charlton Athletic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 8 January, 2015 Share Posted 8 January, 2015 Exactly. And many Saints fans would have been quite happy for us to sign the genius of Craig Mackail-Smith to replace Guly back in the L1 days. He did well for us, but took a lot of stick from supporters so lets not rewrite history and pretend he was universally considered a fantastic player for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortlandSaint Posted 8 January, 2015 Share Posted 8 January, 2015 Loved Guly! will probably look out for any chicago fire games on TV now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 8 January, 2015 Share Posted 8 January, 2015 Decent though he was in L1, he didn't even get in the 2010-11 League 1 team of the season, "genius" is massively overstating his general "fair bit better than averageness". Pos. Player Club GK England Kelvin Davis * Southampton DF Spain Iñigo Calderón Brighton & Hove Albion DF Scotland Gordon Greer Brighton & Hove Albion DF Portugal José Fonte Southampton DF England Dan Harding Southampton MF Ireland Anthony Pilkington Huddersfield Town MF England Adam Lallana Southampton MF England Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain Southampton MF England Elliott Bennett Brighton & Hove Albion FW Scotland Craig Mackail-Smith Peterborough United FW England Bradley Wright-Phillips Charlton Athletic Rickie Lambert didn't make that team either - would that mean Mackail-Smith or Wright-Phillips are better and Rickie was just a bit better than average? I'd say Do Prado was a better footballer than Bennett and maybe Pilkington too, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Mulgrew Posted 8 January, 2015 Share Posted 8 January, 2015 GDP was apparently a lovely bloke, characterful and popular with his fellow Saints players and rated by many of them for his skill with the ball. He covered the ground extremely quickly, scored plenty of splendid goals for us and was instrumental in our two promotions to the PL. Let's celebrate the good he achieved for us, ffs. OK he was languid off the ball and was at fault for a goal or two against us; but what of our other players wasn't. He was just about good enough to play in the PL and it was a pity he was so often used merely to close a game down and never got a goal for us in the top flight. The abuse he got on this forum and at some games was uncalled-for and distasteful. I was pleased to see plenty of messages of appreciation earlier in this thread; here is one more. I hope he does well in the USA. Go for it Guly. Very good luck to you; true supporters here remember you fondly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJSFC Posted 8 January, 2015 Share Posted 8 January, 2015 As an avid MLS follower, I am pretty confident in saying he will last a season tops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 8 January, 2015 Share Posted 8 January, 2015 As an avid MLS follower, I am pretty confident in saying he will last a season tops. Surely if BWP can make it in the MLS Guly should be fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Abroad Posted 8 January, 2015 Share Posted 8 January, 2015 As an avid MLS follower, I am pretty confident in saying he will last a season tops. Lol, what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 9 January, 2015 Share Posted 9 January, 2015 Exactly. And many Saints fans would have been quite happy for us to sign the genius of Craig Mackail-Smith to replace Guly back in the L1 days. He did well for us, but took a lot of stick from supporters so lets not rewrite history and pretend he was universally considered a fantastic player for us. Clap Clap Clap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rut Posted 9 January, 2015 Share Posted 9 January, 2015 Soon know if he's a starter or not. The Fire are in the opening game of the 2015 MLS season. Away to LA Galaxy on Friday 6 March 10pm ET (3am UK time). Set those alarm clocks boys 'n' girls. Are there any MLS games live on TV in England? If not - there soon will be when the MLS drops its salary cap... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rut Posted 19 February, 2015 Share Posted 19 February, 2015 Been priced up at 7m in MLS Fantasy. Bargain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 19 February, 2015 Share Posted 19 February, 2015 That's $7, not million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 19 February, 2015 Share Posted 19 February, 2015 Soon know if he's a starter or not. The Fire are in the opening game of the 2015 MLS season. Away to LA Galaxy on Friday 6 March 10pm ET (3am UK time). Set those alarm clocks boys 'n' girls. Are there any MLS games live on TV in England? If not - there soon will be when the MLS drops its salary cap... If they drop their salary cap a lot of non British players in the PL will be on the move stateside. As will quite a few British stars. Money will talk big time on this subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 19 February, 2015 Share Posted 19 February, 2015 If they drop their salary cap a lot of non British players in the PL will be on the move stateside. As will quite a few British stars. Money will talk big time on this subject. But they won't drop it. Americans are more sensible than us in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 19 February, 2015 Share Posted 19 February, 2015 But they won't drop it. Americans are more sensible than us in that regard. Plus they already have a precedent set in the NFL, NBA and NHL when it comes to salaries. The idea of a cap works in principle but it means they won't attract the quality players their league needs in order for it to grow - just old pros looking for a final payday like Henry, Lampard & Gerrard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 20 February, 2015 Share Posted 20 February, 2015 He's gonna boss it I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 20 February, 2015 Share Posted 20 February, 2015 But they won't drop it. Americans are more sensible than us in that regard. But MLS might raise the salary cap to the point where teams can offer competitive wages for all but the top players. Admittedly that is not likely to happen soon since the last season's cap (excluding designated players) is around 38K pounds a week for 20 players. Yes, Forster makes more than an entire MLS roster (again, excluding designated players). I have not checked its accuracy but here is a link for the average salaries in various football leagues. http://screamer.deadspin.com/chart-the-average-player-salaries-in-soccer-leagues-ar-1658856283 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 20 February, 2015 Share Posted 20 February, 2015 But MLS might raise the salary cap to the point where teams can offer competitive wages for all but the top players. Admittedly that is not likely to happen soon since the last season's cap (excluding designated players) is around 38K pounds a week for 20 players. Yes, Forster makes more than an entire MLS roster (again, excluding designated players). I have not checked its accuracy but here is a link for the average salaries in various football leagues. http://screamer.deadspin.com/chart-the-average-player-salaries-in-soccer-leagues-ar-1658856283 Would love to see a more up to date version of this, given how much it seems to rise every year. Really interesting how much even league 2 players earn now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rut Posted 20 July, 2015 Share Posted 20 July, 2015 The MLS released their player salaries the other day: http://www.mlsplayers.org/images/July%2015,%202015%20Salary%20Information%20-%20By%20Club.pdf Guly is on a base of $120,000 with a guaranteed salary of $135,000 (about £87,000). Per season. What do most Saints players make nowadays? 'I've always dreamed of playing in the English Premier League' - when X player blindly says this then they ain't joking are they... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 20 July, 2015 Share Posted 20 July, 2015 Oh dear. Look at his place in the team's stats so far. http://www.chicago-fire.com/stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Abroad Posted 20 July, 2015 Share Posted 20 July, 2015 Oh dear. Look at his place in the team's stats so far. http://www.chicago-fire.com/stats He's a Fire legend, be on their banner soon enough. Got my seats next to the away bench for his visit to Philadelphia next month. Once a Saint always a Saint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 20 July, 2015 Share Posted 20 July, 2015 The MLS released their player salaries the other day: http://www.mlsplayers.org/images/July%2015,%202015%20Salary%20Information%20-%20By%20Club.pdf Guly is on a base of $120,000 with a guaranteed salary of $135,000 (about £87,000). Per season. What do most Saints players make nowadays? 'I've always dreamed of playing in the English Premier League' - when X player blindly says this then they ain't joking are they... Shaun Maloney is getting 1.5 per season. Shaun ****ing Maloney? Jesus wept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 20 July, 2015 Share Posted 20 July, 2015 Shaun Maloney is getting 1.5 per season. Shaun ****ing Maloney? Jesus wept. Bradley Wright Philips $600,000 and Robbie Keane $4.5m! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 20 July, 2015 Share Posted 20 July, 2015 Awful player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintZamboni Posted 20 July, 2015 Share Posted 20 July, 2015 He's a Fire legend, be on their banner soon enough. Got my seats next to the away bench for his visit to Philadelphia next month. Once a Saint always a Saint. Doing the same when Chicago come to Toronto! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 20 July, 2015 Share Posted 20 July, 2015 Shaun Maloney is getting 1.5 per season. Shaun ****ing Maloney? Jesus wept. Unless I'm missing something, that's only about £20k a week. He isn't great but it sounds reasonable to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 20 July, 2015 Share Posted 20 July, 2015 Get Guly on the banner. NOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roboze Posted 20 July, 2015 Share Posted 20 July, 2015 The guy was part of our rise back to the prem! stop slagging him and just wish him well! this is one of the most *****y footie forums around, love him or loath him he was a Saints player that helped put us where we are now, for that i say thanks Guly, and go show them yanks how to play FOOTBALL, not soccer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 20 July, 2015 Share Posted 20 July, 2015 I enjoyed Guly. He had his moments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JxgrSaint Posted 20 July, 2015 Share Posted 20 July, 2015 Pirlo only on $2m compared to Lampard and Gerrard both on $6m + Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 20 July, 2015 Share Posted 20 July, 2015 Pirlo only on $2m compared to Lampard and Gerrard both on $6m + Pirlo is the highest earner in the MLS on £5.2m per year. Those figures must be distorted, prob due to the half-season (not sure why). http://m.bbc.com/sport/football/33535637 I'm looking forward to seeing them both make their debuts at Yankee Stadium this Sunday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Abroad Posted 21 July, 2015 Share Posted 21 July, 2015 Doing the same when Chicago come to Toronto! Pirlo is the highest earner in the MLS on £5.2m per year. Those figures must be distorted, prob due to the half-season (not sure why). http://m.bbc.com/sport/football/33535637 I'm looking forward to seeing them both make their debuts at Yankee Stadium this Sunday! I'll float it out there (mostly on Kentucky Bourbon Barrel Ale), we should do a once a year "North American-once-a-Saint-always-a-Saint-jamboree" where North American Saints fans get together to support Southampton's past, current and future glories at an MLS game consisting of former Saints, or just when Guly comes to Philly because I don't want to drive that far. Ralph will show up, no doubt. Deal? Done. See you lot in August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 21 July, 2015 Share Posted 21 July, 2015 Good luck to him I hope he has a great season in Chicago Land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 22 July, 2015 Share Posted 22 July, 2015 God - some of you guys are right up your own backside leaping on a bit of hyperbole as though he meant it literally. His point was that compared to most League 1 players he appeared that way. And if you want to be literal neither AL or RL were geniuses either - just very good players (and I am a big fan of both) Quite right. Exactly the same as CMFG, (Chrissy Marsden Football Genius). A bit of hyperbole doesn't go amiss when we remember a player with fondness for the contribution they made for us during our phoenix-like rise up through the divisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 22 July, 2015 Share Posted 22 July, 2015 He contributed in a similar way to the likes of Butterfield, Richardson and Barnard I would say. Very important moments but not a key player. Remembered fondly, but wasn't particularly good as proven by not getting into a poor MLS team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 22 July, 2015 Share Posted 22 July, 2015 Seems Didier Drogba is also signing for Chicago Fire. What a strike force they'll make Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rut Posted 22 July, 2015 Share Posted 22 July, 2015 I'll float it out there (mostly on Kentucky Bourbon Barrel Ale), we should do a once a year "North American-once-a-Saint-always-a-Saint-jamboree" where North American Saints fans get together to support Southampton's past, current and future glories at an MLS game consisting of former Saints, or just when Guly comes to Philly because I don't want to drive that far. Ralph will show up, no doubt. Deal? Done. See you lot in August. We could have done this for the Indy Eleven (Indianapolis NASL team). They had Corby Moore (Southampton academy) playing for them and Paul Telfer (played for Saints in the 2003 FA Cup Final) was the assistant head coach. They have now both left though! Def up for a meet at a game sometime though. How about going to see the Cincinnati Saints sometime? ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cincinnati_Saints ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 Released mid-way through the season. http://www.chicago-fire.com/news/2015/08/chicago-fire-and-guly-do-prado-mutually-agree-part-ways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 Has barely played now for 4 years. Not being able to make an impact of any sort in the MLS is pretty poor for a player who was decent at L1 and Championship level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 He's getting on a bit now. Legend though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoswellSaint Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 Released mid-way through the season. http://www.chicago-fire.com/news/2015/08/chicago-fire-and-guly-do-prado-mutually-agree-part-ways Just before Saint Abroad had a chance to see him in Philly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintZamboni Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 Noooooooooooooooooooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoswellSaint Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 We could have done this for the Indy Eleven (Indianapolis NASL team). They had Corby Moore (Southampton academy) playing for them and Paul Telfer (played for Saints in the 2003 FA Cup Final) was the assistant head coach. They have now both left though! Def up for a meet at a game sometime though. How about going to see the Cincinnati Saints sometime? ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cincinnati_Saints ) Did not know there was a Cincinnati Saints...I go there occasionally. Have to check their schedule next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivepete Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 Damn, I had planned to see him play against Washington in October when I am over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 Damn, I had planned to see him play against Washington in October when I am over there. He wasn't playing any games for anyway. Not recently anyhow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Abroad Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 Absolutely gutted. Would have loved to get a picture with him and reminiscent about Southampton, the WestQuay and all. Lest we forget it was his assist that Sharp put in the back of the net to seal promotion (I know Lallana gets credited but it was Guly's cross). O well, as an aside I have two spare tickets to the Indy MotoGP this weekend and it looks like there may be a few Saints in the Midwest (at least some west of Appalachia) so let me know if anyone wants to drown our Guly-less sorrows in the "Crossroads of America." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rut Posted 5 August, 2015 Share Posted 5 August, 2015 Absolutely gutted. Would have loved to get a picture with him and reminiscent about Southampton, the WestQuay and all. Lest we forget it was his assist that Sharp put in the back of the net to seal promotion (I know Lallana gets credited but it was Guly's cross). O well, as an aside I have two spare tickets to the Indy MotoGP this weekend and it looks like there may be a few Saints in the Midwest (at least some west of Appalachia) so let me know if anyone wants to drown our Guly-less sorrows in the "Crossroads of America." If you are in Indy this weekend then the Indy Eleven are at home at 7.30pm on Sat Aug 8 ( http://www.indyeleven.com/schedule ). They play at the Michael A. Carroll Stadium ('The Mike') which is close to downtown (1101 West New York Street Indianapolis, IN 46202). No Saints connections (that I know of) at the moment though. You'd just have to pretend. Interesting that Guly didn't make it in the MLS. It ain't quite the 'Sunday Retirement League' that people make it out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 5 August, 2015 Share Posted 5 August, 2015 If you are in Indy this weekend then the Indy Eleven are at home at 7.30pm on Sat Aug 8 ( http://www.indyeleven.com/schedule ). They play at the Michael A. Carroll Stadium ('The Mike') which is close to downtown (1101 West New York Street Indianapolis, IN 46202). No Saints connections (that I know of) at the moment though. You'd just have to pretend. Interesting that Guly didn't make it in the MLS. It ain't quite the 'Sunday Retirement League' that people make it out to be. Corby Moore went there. Is he not still there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rut Posted 5 August, 2015 Share Posted 5 August, 2015 Corby Moore went there. Is he not still there? No - he left to go and play for Forest Green Rovers in The Conference back in January. Paul Telfer was the Indy assistant coach but left in June. Don't think he went anywhere else - just got the tin-tack when the head coach (Juergen Sommer) left as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJSFC Posted 5 August, 2015 Share Posted 5 August, 2015 Lol, what? Lol, what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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