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OS says it was Jack's call. He will gave gone from Saints legend to traitor with this move. Are Watford scheduled to come here? He will be booed and catcalled!

 

Rubbish - I for one wouldn't boo him.

 

Usual old saints to blame the player and take no responsibility..........saints suck!

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OS says it was Jack's call. He will gave gone from Saints legend to traitor with this move. Are Watford scheduled to come here? He will be booed and catcalled!

And you'd expect Pravda to say anything else?! Another easy way to deflect criticism from them to the player...

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OS says it was Jack's call. He will gave gone from Saints legend to traitor with this move. Are Watford scheduled to come here? He will be booed and catcalled!

 

Saints legend?

You must be joking! To call him that is a serious insult to the TRUE legends!

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So hes right then. You have no idea of the real reason.

It's a very simple reason. We can't afford to keep him, and won't be prepard to 'gamble' to retain a player who has so far been something of a lynchpin.

 

Yes, of course, I'm a pessamistic old b*start and distrustful of anything that comes out of the OS Lowe spin machine. Mind, year after year of gross mismanagement will do that to a fella...

 

As I say, if it helps you younger chaps to get through a ****ty season by swalling everything on the OS hook line and sinker, good for you!

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OS says it was Jack's call. He will gave gone from Saints legend to traitor with this move. Are Watford scheduled to come here? He will be booed and catcalled!

 

Grow up FFS. Can you honestly blame any player for wanting to leave this obvious sh1thole of a club? I just hope the last one out turns the lights off in case we can't afford the electric bill:rolleyes:

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You really reckon Cork OR Chelsea would want him playing in a half-ar$ed joke of a club with a manager who is totally out of his depth, a team getting relegated and a chairman who is smug, and arrogant?

 

Jeez, i remember 30 odd years ago a certain Lawrie Mac locking Kevin Keegan in a room and saying he wouldn't get out until he signed. Persuasion starts with wanting to and with trying, neither of which our "glorious" leader is capable of doing.

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The adolescent mentality on here just gets worse, but it is odd that people who clearly dislike so much about the club continue to post on this website. Why not start an "I Hate Southampton FC and everyone connected with it" forum and post there where it doesn't pollute the discussions that genuine fans want to have.

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You really reckon Cork OR Chelsea would want him playing in a half-ar$ed joke of a club with a manager who is totally out of his depth, a team getting relegated and a chairman who is smug, and arrogant?

 

Jeez, i remember 30 odd years ago a certain Lawrie Mac locking Kevin Keegan in a room and saying he wouldn't get out until he signed. Persuasion starts with wanting to and with trying, neither of which our "glorious" leader is capable of doing.

 

You mean Alan Ball.

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The adolescent mentality on here just gets worse, but it is odd that people who clearly dislike so much about the club continue to post on this website. Why not start an "I Hate Southampton FC and everyone connected with it" forum and post there where it doesn't pollute the discussions that genuine fans want to have.

 

Sadly, they have already so infected this site, it has become their "spritual" home.

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The adolescent mentality on here just gets worse, but it is odd that people who clearly dislike so much about the club continue to post on this website. Why not start an "I Hate Southampton FC and everyone connected with it" forum and post there where it doesn't pollute the discussions that genuine fans want to have.

 

Because no-one thinks this. There are, however, many of us who think that Lowe and Wilde are, not for the first time, totally mis-managing the club, their strategy including a non-sensical managerial appointment who, as many of us predicted, seems to be out of his depth. These issues naturally impact on just about any thread, footballing or financial, that someone might start.

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Because no-one thinks this. There are, however, many of us who think that Lowe and Wilde are, not for the first time, totally mis-managing the club, their strategy including a non-sensical managerial appointment who, as many of us predicted, seems to be out of his depth. These issues naturally impact on just about any thread, footballing or financial, that someone might start.

 

Well like most people you have no idea of the background relating to the decisions made.

 

With no money and a young team it is not a surprise to me that we are struggling

 

The team needs support not this constant whingeing rubbish from lots of posters.

 

 

We are where we are deep in the mire and we need to get through it

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I assume that Watford offered to pay Chelsea more than we did, and that we refused to match or exceed Watford's offer. If Chelsea didn't want to extend the loan, there is not much the player could do about it. Championship football with Watford or reserves football with Chelsea? Not a difficult decision for Cork.

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The adolescent mentality on here just gets worse, but it is odd that people who clearly dislike so much about the club continue to post on this website. Why not start an "I Hate Southampton FC and everyone connected with it" forum and post there where it doesn't pollute the discussions that genuine fans want to have.

 

Pollute the discussions of genuine fans!!? Instead of questionning the mentality of some on here, wake up and smell the coffee. This club is a joke, riddled with internal squabbling on and off the field, run by a board with the business acumen of Basil Brush and treating what's left of its once loyal fan base with nothing other than contempt.

 

Why should such views not be reflected on this forum? After all they are clearly in the ascendancy.

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The adolescent mentality on here just gets worse, but it is odd that people who clearly dislike so much about the club continue to post on this website. Why not start an "I Hate Southampton FC and everyone connected with it" forum and post there where it doesn't pollute the discussions that genuine fans want to have.

In the same way German's who didn't support Hitler should have started a "I hate Germany" campaign one presumes...

 

Just because we don't agree with you or RL, and won't 'tow the party line' does not mean (a) that we don't support the club - in fact, I'd argue it actually proves we DO (b) that we should not be able to express our views openly.

 

Um... someone who gets infuriated and hits out when people express opinions opposite to their own... now, just who is it you remind me of...?

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I assume that Watford offered to pay Chelsea more than we did, and that we refused to match or exceed Watford's offer. If Chelsea didn't want to extend the loan, there is not much the player could do about it. Championship football with Watford or reserves football with Chelsea? Not a difficult decision for Cork.

 

don't know but guess neither club would be paying a fee - big club to smaller club, developing young player loan.

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The adolescent mentality on here just gets worse, but it is odd that people who clearly dislike so much about the club continue to post on this website. Why not start an "I Hate Southampton FC and everyone connected with it" forum and post there where it doesn't pollute the discussions that genuine fans want to have.

 

Wow:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

 

We haven't had that type of comment on here for all of about two days!!!!!!

 

Posters on here don't hate Southampton FC, in fact it's their love of Saints that makes them so passionate and loud.

 

But hey, ho, let's just dress up all the well held and well espoused views as pollution.

 

Methinks you're the one with a low mentality if you continue to fail to distinguish the odd duff post (and poster), from the majority of well thought out and reasoned posts (and posters).

 

I wantz Rupert7 out cuz hes possh innit.

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Pollute the discussions of genuine fans!!? Instead of questionning the mentality of some on here, wake up and smell the coffee. This club is a joke, riddled with internal squabbling on and off the field, run by a board with the business acumen of Basil Brush and treating what's left of its once loyal fan base with nothing other than contempt.

 

Why should such views not be reflected on this forum? After all they are clearly in the ascendancy.

 

It is very easy to post things like this when things are going wrong but we need to support the team .

 

 

Insulting the board is not going to help they are trying to get the club to move forward but it is difficult with fans like you whining all the time.

 

Surely you must realise that the club spent too much in the past on wages of £500,000 for players such as Thomas Euell Rasiak Skacel John Saga etc and it is now pay back time.

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It is very easy to post things like this when things are going wrong but we need to support the team .

 

 

Insulting the board is not going to help they are trying to get the club to move forward but it is difficult with fans like you whining all the time.

 

So to cap off Professors grand claim that supporters pollute this site with their views, we now have that old chestnut that it's the supporters fault. It's our whining that's holding the team back:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

 

The views of supporters (positive or negative) are mere symptons of the situation we find ourselves in, and in this case it is the policies of those temporarily in charge of the Club that have driven us to this point.

 

Many thousands still turn up (just look at the Notts Forest game), so methinks you need to look to the boardroom and the results of some weird decisions for the reasons why it is hard to go forward, before you blame the hard pressed fans who have put up with so much rubbish recently.

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It is very easy to post things like this when things are going wrong but we need to support the team .

 

 

Insulting the board is not going to help they are trying to get the club to move forward but it is difficult with fans like you whining all the time.

 

Surely you must realise that the club spent too much in the past on wages of £500,000 for players such as Thomas Euell Rasiak Skacel John Saga etc and it is now pay back time.

 

I don't see what money has to do with it, we can afford Cork.

 

What is worrying IMO is that we have lost a player we wanted to keep to a shower of ****e like Watford.

 

It might be that he was good mates with the guy at Watford and there is nothing we could have done about it. But it may also be the case that he just doesn't want to be part of some dozy chairman's experiments - given what has happened in the past I think we can be forgiven for assuming the worst.

 

The guy was here half a season, he was playing regularly and playing well. You would assume he was half settled here, bonded with the other players/coaches and have a bit of loyalty to the team. To chuck all that in for a **** hole like Watford sugests to me that SFC is the circus we all think it is.

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It is very easy to post things like this when things are going wrong but we need to support the team .

 

Insulting the board is not going to help they are trying to get the club to move forward but it is difficult with fans like you whining all the time.

 

Surely you must realise that the club spent too much in the past on wages of £500,000 for players such as Thomas Euell Rasiak Skacel John Saga etc and it is now pay back time.

We do support the team, just not the idiots who continue to take this club spiralling downwards through daft decisions (and I include pretty much everyone who has served on the SFC/SLH board in the last 5-6 years in that number).

 

As a season ticket of many years, a shareholder, and a loyal fan I have every right to criticise what I see as failing/failed management.

 

Perhaps the club did spend too much on wages - again down to failed management at boardroom level - but I'd gladly see 1 or 2 of those out on loan currently back here for a spell scoring the goals we need to cling on to our CCC position. We've also spent far too much paying off mangerial contracts from ill thought out appointments... (of course, that is never mentioned when analysing our parlous financial predicament).

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What is worrying IMO is that we have lost a player we wanted to keep to a shower of ****e like Watford.

 

It might be that he was good mates with the guy at Watford and there is nothing we could have done about it. But it may also be the case that he just doesn't want to be part of some dozy chairman's experiments - given what has happened in the past I think we can be forgiven for assuming the worst.

 

The guy was here half a season, he was playing regularly and playing well. You would assume he was half settled here, bonded with the other players/coaches and have a bit of loyalty to the team. To chuck all that in for a **** hole like Watford sugests to me that SFC is the circus we all think it is.

 

Thats whats worrying me. Maybe he did go for football, but I cant help thinking he wanted out for some other reason.

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We do support the team, just not the idiots who continue to take this club spiralling downwards through daft decisions (and I include pretty much everyone who has served on the SFC/SLH board in the last 5-6 years in that number).

 

As a season ticket of many years, a shareholder, and a loyal fan I have every right to criticise what I see as failing/failed management.

 

Perhaps the club did spend too much on wages - again down to failed management at boardroom level - but I'd gladly see 1 or 2 of those out on loan currently back here for a spell scoring the goals we need to cling on to our CCC position. We've also spent far too much paying off mangerial contracts from ill thought out appointments... (of course, that is never mentioned when analysing our parlous financial predicament).

 

And yet people keep wanting us to churn through the managers! I say give JP til the end of February and then act. And I'd like to say give him more time but I wont...

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And yet people keep wanting us to churn through the managers! I say give JP til the end of February and then act. And I'd like to say give him more time but I wont...

Less a case of people 'wanting managers out' more a case of blatantly ill-judged appointments from the board in the first place. You are then left with no choice but to act (or would you have persevered with Wigley?).

 

End of Feb will be far too late - we will be marooned in the bottom three by then no doubt, but then I doubt Lowe will act at all, so you'll likely get your wish, and the rest of us will suffer the consequences...

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Interesting that they say it is because of the manager. The records say Cork has been out on loan since 2006. Which was when he was in charge of the reserves at Chelsea. Im guessing Cork did not play many first team reserve games?

 

At the end of the day if i was a player and was lumped together with our manager and board i would want to leave too. Im sure most of you would to.

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If you wanted to develop your career as a promising young centre back who would you rather work with. Jan Poortvliet, struggling to make a mark with the worst team of his clubs generation or Watford, a stable environment with a coach he is familiar with?

 

Its a no sodding brainer.

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For Cork it's all about his development and what's best for it, according to both Jack and Chelsea.

 

He has the choice of playing for his ex-Chelsea boss who he probably has a lot of time for ... or playing for Jan Poortvliet. What's he gonna learn from Jan... assuming that he can understand what the **** he's taking about anyway.

 

If I was him, I'd be gone too. Good luck to him. It's our look out that we have only 3 centre backs at the club, one is a cripple, one is 35 and the other is a donkey.

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Interesting that they say it is because of the manager. The records say Cork has been out on loan since 2006. Which was when he was in charge of the reserves at Chelsea. Im guessing Cork did not play many first team reserve games?

 

At the end of the day if i was a player and was lumped together with our manager and board i would want to leave too. Im sure most of you would to.

 

He was captain of Chelsea reserves under Brendan Rogers for what it's worth.

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Chelsea would not allow Jack to make such a call by himself.

 

If I were Chelsea I would put Jack in Watford - Saints are going to be relegated, playing him out of position, are poorly run, low morale ... God can people not see? Why the hell would any team want to destroy the confidence of one of their up and coming players by keeping them at a Club full of League 1/2 quality players when it is going down?

 

Sorry - but I think it may have been Jack's call... but I sense some guidance. Anyway, if it was Jack's call...

 

WHY? WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE TEAM JP/LOWE? WHY DOES THIS NIPPA NOT ENDORSE OUR YOUTH ABILITY IN FAVOUR OF A 'SMALLER' CLUB???????

 

Damning verdict.

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chelsea would not allow jack to make such a call by himself.

 

If i were chelsea i would put jack in watford - saints are going to be relegated, playing him out of position, are poorly run, low morale ... God can people not see? Why the hell would any team want to destroy the confidence of one of their up and coming players by keeping them at a club full of league 1/2 quality players when it is going down?

 

Sorry - but i think it may have been jack's call... But i sense some guidance. Anyway, if it was jack's call...

 

Why? What's wrong with the team jp/lowe? Why does this nippa not endorse our youth ability in favour of a 'smaller' club???????

 

Damning verdict.

 

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