BARCELONASAINT Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 As we seem to be doing the ex Saints players thing i thought how about the managers. Now we have seen a lot come and go in recent times and i have thought about this long and hard....ok a nano second and my candidate for worst/ most hated manager is.................................................................Redcrapp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowsaintsfan Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 Redcarp for me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonRichards Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 RedKrapp, with Branfoot coming in second Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 Hoddle - the biggest cvnt ever to have been at Saints. I will never forgive him for not picking Le Tissier for England out of spite for Le Tissier not going to Chelsea when he was boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 Redkrapp, he had long enough to keep us up but still got us relegated then f u c k ed when the going got tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnersaint Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 Branfoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 Redknapp closely followed by Burley as I jumped for joy when we got him and jumped for joy when he left. Complete lack of interest coupled with some of the worst team selections I have ever seen like Watford at home with 6 players playing on their 'wrong side'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 Rednapp then Wigley(was Wigley a manager or head coach)?Anyway i didnt like Rednapp for the usual reasons and i didnt like Wigley because he was totally useless and he knew it as well,yet he continued to throw away our Premiership status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WealdSaint Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 Most loved Lawrie McMenemy........WGS a closed second (not old enough to remeber Ted Bates) Most hated.....Branfoot (mind u he did'nt get us relegated).......saggy chops (who did and then tries to forget it)........Burley (for raising all our hopes and blowing the last of our parachute payments) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 1 Redknapp - shafted us all ways then a long way behind come the rest.... 2 Branfoot - well meaning but crapp 3 Souness - talked a good game, but only just behind the above 2 4= Gray & Wigley - good coaches that were ultimately not up to the job, but unlucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 Oops, I forgot old Whiskey George - probably in there joint third with Souey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 redknapp....branfoot...burley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 Redknapp, cos hes a ****. Followed closely by wigley, because NO ONE has ever made me feel more miserable than that man... (apart from the chap that appointed him :s) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 Wigley by a mile - useless ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 Most hated: Redknapp Worst: Gray/Wigley/Poortvliet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 Funny thing is until Redknapp left he was not the most hated,Branfoot wins the award hands down for most hated during his time at club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 A toss up between Redknapp and Branfoot. As for Burley, like him or not he is still out most suceesful manager since the war in terms of points per game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 Most hated- Redkunt Worst- Wigley (Hon mentions to Gray and Burley) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 A toss up between Redknapp and Branfoot. As for Burley, like him or not he is still out most suceesful manager since the war in terms of points per game. With the resources he had available to him in the division he was playing in I would think he would be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 A toss up between Redknapp and Branfoot. As for Burley, like him or not he is still out most suceesful manager since the war in terms of points per game. Tut tut Soggy chops. Try doing the same calculation but this time give 3 points for a win for every post war manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 Redknapp, Branfoot, Burley, are the finalist. And the winner is....Redknapp. For being the first manager to take us down for 31 years, and talking us down with constant negative vibes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 Tut tut Soggy chops. Try doing the same calculation but this time give 3 points for a win for every post war manager. The table I have is based on three points for a win for every manager. Tut tut Stanley. I am sure you have seen the same table as I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 The table I have is based on three points for a win for every manager. Tut tut Stanley. I am sure you have seen the same table as I have. Nope. Please post it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 Stanley - points per game based on three for a win and 1 for a draw...so two of your most hated managers are two of our most successful....hmmmm Burley 1.54 McMenemy 1.52 Hoddle 1.50 Bates 1.42 Strachan 1.35 Ball 1.34 Nicholl 1.32 Sturrock 1.31 Souness 1.31 Redknapp 1.22 Merrington 1.21 Jones 1.18 Branfoot 1.11 Gray 1.05 Wigley 0.89 Not sure about Pearson, I think he is around 1.24 but no doubt someone will do the maths. Burley finished with the highest win ration - 42.65% Now the next thing you will say is that other managers had to manage in the Prem, but then they had Premiership squads didn't they. Hoddle was rubbish wasn't he......??? Whatever you think, I doubt very much if we'd be where we are right now with either manager here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 Hoddle was rubbish wasn't he......??? Hoddle was good for us and for swindon and then he got sussed as a complete and utter **** and he was rubbish thereafter. That said i'm not basing my opinion on Hoddle on what he did at SFC, i'm basing my opinion on the fact he shat on Le Tissier and he cannot be forgiven for that. As for Burley he had £7mil to spend and still showed no interest. P.S if burley had stayed any longer we'd currently be midway through our first season in league 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 A toss up between Redknapp and Branfoot. As for Burley, like him or not he is still out most suceesful manager since the war in terms of points per game. I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 Burley by a million years because he was the only manager who in my opinion never really cared. He was only ever in it for the wages especially in the final 12 months when we financially imploded pandering to his whims. All the others, Branfoot, Wigley, Gray and even Redknapp wanted us to be successful and had feelings for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 Branfoot was the most hated manager whilst in position at the club.He has since been overtaken by Red****t in the all time list f'sure. Most useless = wartface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 we have only had three decent managers imo bigmac,nicholl,strachs.....ball was ok as he got the best out of matty but the rest can go and kiss my ringpiece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guan 2.0 Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 Burley by a million years because he was the only manager who in my opinion never really cared. He was only ever in it for the wages especially in the final 12 months when we financially imploded pandering to his whims. All the others, Branfoot, Wigley, Gray and even Redknapp wanted us to be successful and had feelings for the club. Feelings such as "My heart was never in it from day 1" (on the Southampton job), you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landford.saint Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 By my poor calculations Portaloo record is .96 points per game. So even if this is the worst start in our 124 year history, he is still better than Wigley. Just shows how badly Wigley really was. My most hated managers, Lowe (because Lowe is effectively manager now if the rumours are coorect) followed by Redcrapp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunty Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 we have only had three decent managers imo bigmac,nicholl,strachs.....ball was ok as he got the best out of matty but the rest can go and kiss my ringpiece. You include Ted Bates with the "rest"? Shocking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 Branfoot for me. We had a decent squad, played good football and he ruined it. I've no doubt he was well meaning but his football philosophy produced the worst football I've seen. It was terrible. Look at the squad he inherited - it was a very good one. Think about if he'd kept Case instead of getting rid because he was perceived to be a threat and how on earth could he drop Le Tissier? I don't blame him for the sale of Shearer because that was always on the cards but buying Speedie and Dixon? About the only thing in his credit is buying Ken Monkou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 Easily Branfoot for me, It was so bad that you just played terrace games while the likes of Puckett was trying to score. S H O C K I N G..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cool Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 We want Branfoot out, I said we want Branfoot out! Branny Branny Branny, Out! Out! Out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 applauding burley as the best manger is farking ludacris...yes he has the best points per game ratio..but he had the most money in relative terms to spend....when the likes of strachan etc had the chance to be the biggest spenders in the prem then I will give burley his dues.. I would go as for as saying he was a farking failure..sure we got to the playoffs (just) and blew it on the first hurdle....we are doing well in getting any sort of fees for the players he left behind arent we.....lets not get into the ones he let go for free.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1Minus10 Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 (edited) Worst.... Wigley, Gray, Merrington (harsh but he was complete cack)... oh hang on... Burley was sh!te Best.... Lawrie, WGS, Bally, Hoddle Nicholl did well for a while Edited 12 January, 2009 by Billy Shite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 Most hated, difficult to decide between Arry, Burley or Branfoot. Branfoot was certainly hated by most Saints fans, he really had no redeeming features, with the one exception that even he did not get us relegated. I loathe Burley, he really is a major factor in where we are right now, and even if statistics might show he has a high points ratio, most of this was gained when he had the support of Snodin as assistant. But my winner is Arry. The lovable ****ney is the most annoying **** I can think of. Worst - differnt list, though Branfoot and Burley would be candidates. I don't think Arry could be considered worst, he clearly does have some management skills as he has ably demonstrated at every other club he has been at, strange that. Don't think Wigley really counts, was he really a manager? I think my vote would go to Jan Poortvliet. The most clueless manager I have ever seen at SFC (nice guy though). He is cetainly well on his way to becoming the first manager in over 50 years to take us down to the 3rd level. I certainly don't hate Hoddle for his time at Saints. While he was with us he was actually very good and was instrumental in turning us into a good team, WGS carried on the good work, but Hoddle laid the foundations. It was unforgiveable how he left, but his abaility and what he did for us in the short term should not be forgotten. How much of that was down to John Gorman we will probably never know, but it is very clear that all of Hoddle's success has come when Gorman has been his right-hand man. His spell at Wolves without Gorman indicated to me that they come as a pair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 12 January, 2009 Share Posted 12 January, 2009 Most Hated is obviously Redknapp, but he wasn't our worst by far. Does no one remember Wigley or Gray?! ****e quickie managers on the cheap... both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 13 January, 2009 Share Posted 13 January, 2009 Hoddle was good for us and for swindon and then he got sussed as a complete and utter **** and he was rubbish thereafter. That said i'm not basing my opinion on Hoddle on what he did at SFC, i'm basing my opinion on the fact he shat on Le Tissier and he cannot be forgiven for that. As for Burley he had £7mil to spend and still showed no interest. P.S if burley had stayed any longer we'd currently be midway through our first season in league 1. Considering how safe we were before he left shows your total lack of knowledge let alone what money he spent. You also forgot the £20million we sold to weaken the squad, something you forgot to mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedyfly Posted 13 January, 2009 Share Posted 13 January, 2009 Considering how safe we were before he left shows your total lack of knowledge let alone what money he spent. You also forgot the £20million we sold to weaken the squad, something you forgot to mention With the squad he had we should have been considerably better of than 'safe'. That team that scrapped into the playoffs and then failed to hit the target from 12 yards consistantly SHOULD have been challenging for auto-promotions, not frigging luck of the draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolo Posted 13 January, 2009 Share Posted 13 January, 2009 redcun! by a very very long distance..... I hate the fcker,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offix Posted 13 January, 2009 Share Posted 13 January, 2009 Most hated manager: Branfoot Worst: Wigley, closely followed by Burley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 13 January, 2009 Share Posted 13 January, 2009 Stanley - points per game based on three for a win and 1 for a draw...so two of your most hated managers are two of our most successful....hmmmm Burley 1.54 McMenemy 1.52 Hoddle 1.50 Bates 1.42 Strachan 1.35 Ball 1.34 Nicholl 1.32 Sturrock 1.31 Souness 1.31 Redknapp 1.22 Merrington 1.21 Jones 1.18 Branfoot 1.11 Gray 1.05 Wigley 0.89 Not sure about Pearson, I think he is around 1.24 but no doubt someone will do the maths. Burley finished with the highest win ration - 42.65% Now the next thing you will say is that other managers had to manage in the Prem, but then they had Premiership squads didn't they. Hoddle was rubbish wasn't he......??? Whatever you think, I doubt very much if we'd be where we are right now with either manager here. FFS, not this tissue of lies again. Almost all of those managers got their points-per-game ratio in the TOP echelon of English football. Oh, except one G. Burley. Which means Hoddle's and McMenemy's record piiss all over his. Most hated: clearly Burley. Most loved: McMenemy, and I am sure it is the same for 90% of our fans - only the Lowe Luvvies who dislike the attention it draws away from their jealous God would disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanthemanfairoak Posted 13 January, 2009 Share Posted 13 January, 2009 GEORGE ROUGHTON [1952-1955] got us relegated to division 3 1952-53 crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 13 January, 2009 Share Posted 13 January, 2009 Most hated : Branfoot, a dark period at the end of a pretty bright era. Worst ; Wigley or Poortvliet for me. Wigley never had the character right from the off and should never have been given the job (particularly when 6 months earlier he said it wasn't for him). Poortvliet is being shown up to be naive, stubborn, inflexible and inexperienced. We're bumbling aling, learning on the job with the odd thing falling into place more by accident than design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 13 January, 2009 Share Posted 13 January, 2009 FFS, not this tissue of lies again. Almost all of those managers got their points-per-game ratio in the TOP echelon of English football. Oh, except one G. Burley. Which means Hoddle's and McMenemy's record piiss all over his. Most hated: clearly Burley. Most loved: McMenemy, and I am sure it is the same for 90% of our fans - only the Lowe Luvvies who dislike the attention it draws away from their jealous God would disagree. Ted Bates was my favorite manager by a long way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 13 January, 2009 Share Posted 13 January, 2009 FFS, not this tissue of lies again. Almost all of those managers got their points-per-game ratio in the TOP echelon of English football. Oh, except one G. Burley. Which means Hoddle's and McMenemy's record piiss all over his. Most hated: clearly Burley. Most loved: McMenemy, and I am sure it is the same for 90% of our fans - only the Lowe Luvvies who dislike the attention it draws away from their jealous God would disagree. You really do have a problem don't you Alpine. Bates and McMenemey both spent time in the lower reaches. McMenemy took what, three seasons to get promotion with the likes of Channon and Osgood in his squad. Another point you conveniently avoid is the fact that McMenemy was able to call on the highest calibre of players we ever had in the 80's. It is horses for courses. Burley had a CCC squad and played in the CCC remember? I still think that to "hate" someone you have never met and know nothing about apart from tittle tattle on an internet chat board shows signs of a disturbed psyche. You carry on hating him Alpine. He is still the most successful manager we have had in terms of points per game so it shows wher you are coming from. And as for tiisues of lies...what is it with you eh? You spend your life bending the facts to suit your warped agenda. You need to grow up Alpine and get a perspective. These are facts Alpine not your version of the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 13 January, 2009 Share Posted 13 January, 2009 Bagpuss. ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDonkey Posted 13 January, 2009 Share Posted 13 January, 2009 Redknapp without a shadow of a doubt. He plainly didn't want to be here and his half hearted management took us down. We may have had worse managers but I don't think even Wigley had such a negligent view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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