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What a sad day.There werer fans waiting for the opportunity to start the anti Lowe songs and were at it when we were a goal down.

Im not against the protests outside the ground after teh game, but during the game in a 6 pointer is suicide.

As for punching stewards and your own fans its so depressing.

I saw some longstanding fans loooking stunned and ! with tears running down her face, and then a young lad with his dad looking fearful.

What a sad state our club and fans have got to.

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What a sad day.There werer fans waiting for the opportunity to start the anti Lowe songs and were at it when we were a goal down.

Im not against the protests outside the ground after teh game, but during the game in a 6 pointer is suicide.

As for punching stewards and your own fans its so depressing.

I saw some longstanding fans loooking stunned and ! with tears running down her face, and then a young lad with his dad looking fearful.

What a sad state our club and fans have got to.

So it is the fault of the fans is it? Nothing to do with the on-going ineptitude that is dished up week after week on the pitch??:confused:

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What a sad day.There werer fans waiting for the opportunity to start the anti Lowe songs and were at it when we were a goal down.

Im not against the protests outside the ground after teh game, but during the game in a 6 pointer is suicide.

As for punching stewards and your own fans its so depressing.

I saw some longstanding fans loooking stunned and ! with tears running down her face, and then a young lad with his dad looking fearful.

What a sad state our club and fans have got to.

 

sorry nick but i really do not think the protests had any effect on the result.

 

and the question is WHY have we got to this sad state ?

 

the one thing i am certain of no other business would blame the customers, rupert wanted us to be customers he got his wish and now we will reap the consequences

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Im not against the protests outside the ground after teh game, but during the game in a 6 pointer is suicide.

 

Two nil down at home to one of only two teams below you is fccking suicde!!!!!!!!

 

What you saw today was just a sympton of a much bigger problem affecting this Club.

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It'll soon be over. Division amongst fans will soon be a thing of the past. Surely it can't be more than a few weeks before even the very few Ru**rt supporters see the light, and every supporter will make his/her feelings known to the coach, players and management. No division, no fights.

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We fight amongst ourselves all the time on here.

 

Verbal jousting all very acceptable Ponty - nobody is going to get a broken jaw sitting at thier keyboard (which explains why I am such a brave bastard).

 

But 'in fighting' in the stadium - really shows how low we have sunk.

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What I saw today was unlike anything I have ever seen before.

 

Obviously have got my first season ticket in 1990 their will be other people on here I'm sure that saw similar or worse things in the 70's and 80's.

 

Anyway, 3 big punch ups, something happened next to the 'Itchen 10' flag that turned into a supporter/steward brawl. Followed by 2 blokes having a fight near the bottom of the Kingsland/North corner.

 

If that wasn't enough, there was then a something-or-other fracas in the Northam behind me, dunno what happened but i seemed like a few fans going at each other.

 

The most surprising thing was the way in which the stewards dealt with it, honestly they are no better than the fighting fans (some of them of course). I saw them pushing and punching people, some of them deserved a good kicking I must say.

 

With that and what went on on the pitch, it has been one of the most depressing days I have ever had in my 19 season ticket holding years.

 

As for the fans picking the fights (as opposed to people defending themselves or ending up in the middle of it) **** off, the lot of you. There is no place in a civilised society for you, let alone MY CLUB'S football ground.

 

\rant over.

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So it is the fault of the fans is it? Nothing to do with the on-going ineptitude that is dished up week after week on the pitch??:confused:

That as well.why do you think I blame the fans, I believe the fans singing anti Lowe songs is detrimental to the performance.That is my opinion, and it divided the fans instead of focussing on the team.

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What I saw today was unlike anything I have ever seen before.

 

Obviously have got my first season ticket in 1990 their will be other people on here I'm sure that saw similar or worse things in the 70's and 80's.

 

Anyway, 3 big punch ups, something happened next to the 'Itchen 10' flag that turned into a supporter/steward brawl. Followed by 2 blokes having a fight near the bottom of the Kingsland/North corner.

 

If that wasn't enough, there was then a something-or-other fracas in the Northam behind me, dunno what happened but i seemed like a few fans going at each other.

 

The most surprising thing was the way in which the stewards dealt with it, honestly they are no better than the fighting fans (some of them of course). I saw them pushing and punching people, some of them deserved a good kicking I must say.

 

With that and what went on on the pitch, it has been one of the most depressing days I have ever had in my 19 season ticket holding years.

 

As for the fans picking the fights (as opposed to people defending themselves or ending up in the middle of it) **** off, the lot of you. There is no place in a civilised society for you, let alone MY CLUB'S football ground.

 

\rant over.

 

That is a truly depressing read :(

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I've never known any club to have been so divided by a Board as this one. I don't think they're actually pro or anti Lowe. I believe they're probably united against Lowe, it's just that everyone is SO ANGRY, that almost anything will get them to kick off into violence.

 

Normally I don't condone any personal violence, but I actually have some sympathy for them. This crisis must be destroying some fans. The only solution is for Lowe to leave, even if it means certain relegation to League 1 and administration. Because I don't see anyone uniting under the present Board.

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This does make me laugh inside, but on the outside it hurts.

 

The problem is people believe passionately in The Club, but are not capable of expresing dicontent without using their fists. Sure in "my" day fists were used in anger but aimed at opposition fans. It's not big and not clever but that was the way it was - I'm not proud of the 70's or 80's - just a bit of laddish behaviour.

 

I protest in a more peaceful way now. Firstly by not attending games at SMS. Sure it's a long way, but I was a regular once. The pressure on match days is immense, and I know those who go to SMS expect better. There are plenty of "Let's give Jan a chance" brigade and STs who want "Lowe Out". Whilst we can look to be united - more results like this will drive a huge wedge between the fan base. It started today by the sounds of it.

 

I thought I'd get a smack at Barnsley last week with my anti-Lowe vigil, but it was apathy that ruled the day. Almost as if it didn't matter.

 

I believe the only thing that will get things moving is a genuine boycott of games in the future. Surely even those who spent all that money on a ST could miss one game. Let them say there was 15,000 there with the stadium being empty.

 

Look many will disagree but surely we are better going down due to having points deducted than struggling all season to start next year on -10 points. Hate to say that this is one situation we don't seem to have an answer for.

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That as well.why do you think I blame the fans, I believe the fans singing anti Lowe songs is detrimental to the performance.That is my opinion, and it divided the fans instead of focussing on the team.

Do you really believe this?? I don`t think that the sporadic singing of any song during the game had any effect on the players at all. We have won one league game at home this season. Is that because of supporters singing songs or is it for other reasons?:confused:

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I believe the fans singing anti Lowe songs is detrimental to the performance.

 

No songs sung, 2-0 down.

 

Songs sung, we pull one back.

 

What is detrimental to our performance is a fccking sub standard manager, appointed by a sub standard CEO.

 

You keep blaming the fans Nick, most of us realise the real problem lies elsewhere.

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If that wasn't enough, there was then a something-or-other fracas in the Northam behind me, dunno what happened but i seemed like a few fans going at each other.

 

 

That looked like the worst to me. A lot of punches thrown, looked like one person v a group of people. Stewards we're very slow to react, and were pushed away when they tried to get up there. :( sad day for sfc

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... I believe the fans singing anti Lowe songs is detrimental to the performance.

 

What??? You think if it ******es Rupert off the team play worse? Or do you think that they only play because they love rupert?

 

Quite possibly, Nick, the players don't have as much respect for old rupes as you do. maybe they have a bot more pride in themselves, the team and the club.

 

Or maybe not - but its the leadership that instills all that, and who is the leader? Oh yes, its Rupert.

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I believe the fans singing anti Lowe songs is detrimental to the performance.

 

Nick sorry but after a **** day, that has made me laugh! So what your telling me is that fans singing and supporting the team works? Have I missed something then?

 

Personally the anit lowe stuff / protests outside SMS should have started months ago!

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What??? You think if it ******es Rupert off the team play worse? Or do you think that they only play because they love rupert?

 

Quite possibly, Nick, the players don't have as much respect for old rupes as you do. maybe they have a bot more pride in themselves, the team and the club.

 

Or maybe not - but its the leadership that instills all that, and who is the leader? Oh yes, its Rupert.

Are you stupid or just impersonating ? Iam saying protest and sing the RL songs to your hearts contnet after the game.We were only 1 down when the atmosphere turned and the anti Lowe songs started.Do you really think that helps? I know we were not likely to do well with the fans singing as they had all game up to then, but when you start singing songs that divides the fanbase and also distracts the minds of the players on the pitch.

By the way who is the saviour to take us over????? they all seem to be talking big and doing SFA.

If mist of us had massive wealth we would have bought the club by now and sorted things, but we have lots of people on the sidelines saying they will do it and then disappear.

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Are you stupid or just impersonating ? Iam saying protest and sing the RL songs to your hearts contnet after the game.We were only 1 down when the atmosphere turned and the anti Lowe songs started.Do you really think that helps? I know we were not likely to do well with the fans singing as they had all game up to then, but when you start singing songs that divides the fanbase and also distracts the minds of the players on the pitch.

By the way who is the saviour to take us over????? they all seem to be talking big and doing SFA.

If mist of us had massive wealth we would have bought the club by now and sorted things, but we have lots of people on the sidelines saying they will do it and then disappear.

 

I think you are the one who is completely mad actually nickh. Peopel pay there money they can do what they want. Players should be professional enough to pu that to the back of their mind. PEOPLE WERENT HAVING A GO AT THE PLAYERS, THEY WERE HAVING A GO AT LOWE. Rightly so, wake up

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Nick sorry but after a **** day, that has made me laugh! So what your telling me is that fans singing and supporting the team works? Have I missed something then?

 

Personally the anit lowe stuff / protests outside SMS should have started months ago!

Thats fine, there were enough of you Im told, so do it outside the ground after the game,.

I understand the frustrations and I would love to thrash out at something but it is futile unless you have a saviour lined up.

RL apparently wasnt there today, he no doubt realised his presence if things went bad was not good.i think Wilde scarpered fairly quickly.

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Saw something kick off at the top of block 4 shortly into the second half.

Then there was a confrontation about half way up northam I think relating to anti-lowe song etc but can't be sure. Someone threw a punch and then a mass brawl broke out, taking stewards a while to get it broken up. A line of stewards were then down by the advertising and i saw one of them shove a teenager over, who then got up and punched the steward in the face, leading to another breakout of fighting and him and friends being ejected.

 

Final bit of 'action' came after the final whistle when 2 guy ran across the pitch before being taken out.

 

Note: I saw no police in the ground whatsoever, clearly the club learnt nothing after barnsley last season.

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Iam saying protest and sing the RL songs to your hearts contnet after the game.We were only 1 down when the atmosphere turned and the anti Lowe songs started.Do you really think that helps?

 

I would say that most of the protests started at 2-0 down, but even if they started at 1-0 down that still means that during that period we drew 1-1, whereas when we were behind the team we lost 1-0.

 

I'm sat here tonight fccking pssied off and saddened by what has happened to my Club and am finding it rather pathetic that you're continuing with this "Let's blame the fans" routine. The same routine that you have peddled for ages, although I notice you've now come round to wat a ridiculous appointment Poortvliet was.

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I think you are the one who is completely mad actually nickh. Peopel pay there money they can do what they want. Players should be professional enough to pu that to the back of their mind. PEOPLE WERENT HAVING A GO AT THE PLAYERS, THEY WERE HAVING A GO AT LOWE. Rightly so, wake up

Well you dont have a clue, RL wasnt even there, you may as well go outside and shout a the wind.You play sport, if you feel support around youy it gives you confidence.If you feel your own turn against you (whether you or your teammates) it understanderbly effects you.That is the way I see it.And dont give me the 'they are professionals'. they are human and with all the frailities of being so.

Sing your heart outside the ground or after teh game, but i believe we hurt ourselves by dividing the fanbase.

If RL does not change the manager I will be there as well.

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Well you dont have a clue, RL wasnt even there, you may as well go outside and shout a the wind.You play sport, if you feel support around youy it gives you confidence.If you feel your own turn against you (whether you or your teammates) it understanderbly effects you.That is the way I see it.And dont give me the 'they are professionals'. they are human and with all the frailities of being so.

Sing your heart outside the ground or after teh game, but i believe we hurt ourselves by dividing the fanbase.

If RL does not change the manager I will be there as well.

 

But we performed worse when we supporting them than when the protest started so please feel free to explain that one:rolleyes::rolleyes:

 

As for Lowe not being there, the Wilde, Richards and others who prop Lowe up were there and they need to get the message loud and clear.

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Well you dont have a clue, RL wasnt even there, you may as well go outside and shout a the wind.You play sport, if you feel support around youy it gives you confidence.If you feel your own turn against you (whether you or your teammates) it understanderbly effects you.That is the way I see it.And dont give me the 'they are professionals'. they are human and with all the frailities of being so.

Sing your heart outside the ground or after teh game, but i believe we hurt ourselves by dividing the fanbase.

If RL does not change the manager I will be there as well.

did everyone know this at the time nickh

 

for once YOU are in the minority and you cant peddle the "did you go" excuse to paper over the cracks..

 

sad as it sounds...you have to wake up and say this is an utter shambles by all

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Final bit of 'action' came after the final whistle when 2 guy ran across the pitch before being taken out.

 

Note: I saw no police in the ground whatsoever, clearly the club learnt nothing after barnsley last season.

 

Being taken out is right. The mush got a right kicking from the stewards , whose excessive force was totally unnecessary.

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