BARCELONASAINT Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 I'm stuck at work with only the benefit of reading the comments on here so difficult to judge how things really are. However I was at the game on Wednesday and was really concerned at how poor our defence was and it appears the same is being said again today. I'm not going to say this is disastrous but I do honestly believe we are in for a terrible season because I do not believe we have done anything to address our defensive frailties. The best sides are built on a strong defence and we have one made of glass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Austin and Gabbi don't work. They've not really clicked in the past. No reason they will now. Need one of Redmond, JWP and Mou in there linking midfield and attack.I'd take Austin off. He's done little. I keep reading that if you give him service, he'll score, but it's not enough in the modern game to be waiting around fir a chance. Every player has to be part of the creative process, and he isn't. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 I really don't get this fetish for height at the back, especially if we're planning on playing three there. On our transfer fee budget, height comes at the expense of mobility, and mobility is more important than height in today's PL. We bought Forster for his height (there's not much else in his tool kit) and we're doing it with CBs. We badly need a mobile reader back there, and I'm really hoping that Yoshida is going to step up to the role. We also need our DMs to be much more effective in front of the back line. They seem so slow to sense danger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 I thought we signed Hoedt to deal with balls in the air. Having signed Hoedt, and committed to a back 3, we should have signed a player to complement him. Signing someone who shows up the worst qualities in both of them was ridiculous. And as for playing for them together in a back 4... Whether we did or not Hoedt was **** poor at winning the ball in the air last season so we tried to find someone who could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 I really don't get this fetish for height at the back, especially if we're planning on playing three there. On our transfer fee budget, height comes at the expense of mobility, and mobility is more important than height in today's PL. We bought Forster for his height (there's not much else in his tool kit) and we're doing it with CBs. We badly need a mobile reader back there, and I'm really hoping that Yoshida is going to step up to the role. We also need our DMs to be much more effective in front of the back line. They seem so slow to sense danger. I'd argue we need a DM, we haven't had someone that effectively breaks up play since Wanyama left and there's no real destroyer type player in our side anymore, hence our defence being so exposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Whether we did or not Hoedt was **** poor at winning the ball in the air last season so we tried to find someone who could. He couldn't run either so we've bought another lad who can't run and played them together. Mobility and speed are more important than aerial ability - this ain't league 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 I really don't get this fetish for height at the back, especially if we're planning on playing three there. On our transfer fee budget, height comes at the expense of mobility, and mobility is more important than height in today's PL. We bought Forster for his height (there's not much else in his tool kit) and we're doing it with CBs. We badly need a mobile reader back there, and I'm really hoping that Yoshida is going to step up to the role. We also need our DMs to be much more effective in front of the back line. They seem so slow to sense danger. We need both but last season we got done by high balls into the box a lot we had to try and do something about it hence we signed a big bloke as you say our budget doesn't stretch to a big bloke, who is good in air, fast and reads the game well those cost 70 million now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 2-0. Failed to close down the player who shoots from distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Different class 2-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Straight through Mccarthy from range. Forster teaching him? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 I'd take Austin off. He's done little. I keep reading that if you give him service, he'll score, but it's not enough in the modern game to be waiting around fir a chance. Every player has to be part of the creative process, and he isn't. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Yeah, he gives the ball away all the time. Poor today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 2-0. Failed to close down the player who shoots from distance. Through the keeper, a touch of Forster about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Freedom of the park to run through there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Hughes out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 More brilliant midfield work. Just let them dribble around until they get a shot. Its way to easy to blame the CB's or strikers, but when the midfield is non-existent nothing works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Benali Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Are we Stoke in disguise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 On this evidence bottom of league after three Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsmike25 Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Another defensive and goalkeeping howler. Macca has given Hughes some food for thought with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Keeper had a Forster there, mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Sorry which team is two weeks ahead in its preparation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 did we make any changes at half time doesn't look like it from my tiny little stream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Another defensive and goalkeeping howler. Macca has given Hughes some food for thought with that. Fail to see the point of signing Gunn if McCarthy is going to be our number 1 this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo_ARG Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Bertrand and Targett seem to be playing as midfielders, it doesen't like like 5 ATB given that they are always nowhere near the play. And they have been so far up the pitch and wide that they are avaiable for the the counter-attacks. So maybe it's by design? I can't find other explanation. When you are getting so easily sliced at some point the CBs tell the WBs to form a line an cover the wingers but they haven't done it. They are sooo far up the pitch and wide that they seem to be marking the air. It's shocking, really. Let alone that the CBs are slow and really don't seem to be comfortable playing like this. Find the best two CBs and ride them please. The players grow up learning how to play with a back four, they are used to it. Not only they are slow, they don't mark the players going behind them. They don't really know if they should follow the runner, go forward to press... so they just stand still and react when it's too late. In the midfield well, this team can't compete without Romeu covering Lemina's and Hoj's fuc* ups. They don't track back, just watch. Lemina gives you a lot going forward but what does PEH bring to the table? He's is been a hour late to every play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 did we make any changes at half time doesn't look like it from my tiny little stream Mo Ely for Armstrong, Stephens for BEdnarek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Shocking from McCarthy. Speculative effort from 30 yards straight through his hands. Second goal he's conceded this week that was his fault. If signing Gunn was to put pressure on McCarthy to maintain his standards, the early signs suggest he's not coping very well. Sent from my F3311 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Are any of Nelly, Les, Ralph at the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Mo Ely for Armstrong, Stephens for BEdnarek cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Bit of a rarity this but good defending from Hoedt to read a through ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Losing the ball easily in midfield constantly and a free kick to nobody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 He couldn't run either so we've bought another lad who can't run and played them together. Mobility and speed are more important than aerial ability - this ain't league 2. Hoedt is pretty quick for a CB his problem is concentration and over doing stuff in dangerous areas instead of playing it safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 I’m beginning to think it’s not new players we need anymore We need a new system or even a new direction as this team as a unit is lacking so many of the basics of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 0-3. Utter gash Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 I know a lot of people don't agree but I'd rather have Romeu sitting in front of the back line than Hoj. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 And it is three Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Tummy being tickled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Can't see us winning a game all season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Lemina and Hoj are having a shocker today. When you play a formation with 3 players in the middle, and these are two of them, its not going to be good. I usually like Lemina too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 3-0. Defence cut open from a through ball once more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 What are relegation odds? May be worth another flutter. Dread to think what mobile attacks will do against our oil tankers at the back Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Absolutely terrible performance, i can't remember a saints side being so easy to rip apart in a long time, our midfield looks non existent and there's gaps big enough to fit the Oriana in the defence. I know it's only a pre-season, and it's being played out in considerable heat, but this really looks bad for the start of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 I’m beginning to think it’s not new players we need anymore We need a new system or even a new direction as this team as a unit is lacking so many of the basics of football. This is a new system though isn't it? oh FFS awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmonton Saint Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 I hope our board are watching these failings over pre-season and do something to rectify it before the window shuts this week. We are awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 We look letargic and bereft of any ideas very very poor this is a simple kickabout for the Germans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Benali Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Only pre-season etc etc but we look so disorganised. No naturalness to the team. Passing from back to front seems so difficult for us. We are set up so defensively but still can't defend to save our lives. If we play like this in the PL it's going to be really tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 nice little run from Mo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 I know a lot of people don't agree but I'd rather have Romeu sitting in front of the back line than Hoj. Hoj gives us absolutely nothing I’d prefer Romeu for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackedoff Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Honest,serious question. Is there anyone who can state that in their opinion this lot are going to be even slightly better this season than last ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Typical mongboarders, Beat Celta Vigo and Targett is suddenly best Wing back in world, today, back to normal ****e player. All this is preseason. Get a grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 El younissi so fed up with his teamates he decides to take all on himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Germans are taking the pîss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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