hypochondriac Posted 12 June, 2019 Share Posted 12 June, 2019 One game - clearly there is massive disparity between some of the teams. Andorra and Gibraltar would get dicked similarly most games but for just piling 11 men in the their own box and hoping for 3-0 defat. I take those games very seriously.If Gibraltar and Andorra were at the men's world cup I'd also be calling it a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 June, 2019 Share Posted 12 June, 2019 If Gibraltar and Andorra were at the men's world cup I'd also be calling it a joke. But the problem is within thec system of attribution of the places. From what I understood the Thais were qualified because they were 4th in the Asian Championship, perhaps there were ony 4 teams for all I know. They're classed 32nd or 34 th or something in the FIFA standings so in theory there are better teams who don't get a spot because of the geographical system of qualifying. It's the same as the men's world cup, better teams don't get a place because of the bias towards Central America, Asia and Africa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 June, 2019 Share Posted 12 June, 2019 But the problem is within thec system of attribution of the places. From what I understood the Thais were qualified because they were 4th in the Asian Championship, perhaps there were ony 4 teams for all I know. They're classed 32nd or 34 th or something in the FIFA standings so in theory there are better teams who don't get a spot because of the geographical system of qualifying. It's the same as the men's world cup, better teams don't get a place because of the bias towards Central America, Asia and Africa.I haven't seen the worst teams at the men's world cup losing by such a ludicrous score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 June, 2019 Share Posted 12 June, 2019 I haven't seen the worst teams at the men's world cup losing by such a ludicrous score. But then mens teams wouldn't just give up like the Thais last night. they were all too small and they knew it, gave up at 4 or 5 nil. Didn't Brazil get tonked 7-1 or something by Germany in 2014 ? Further back there were tournaments when qualifying for the knock-out stages depended on how many you put past Zaire , think the Yougoslavs scored 9 or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 June, 2019 Share Posted 12 June, 2019 But then mens teams wouldn't just give up like the Thais last night. they were all too small and they knew it, gave up at 4 or 5 nil. Didn't Brazil get tonked 7-1 or something by Germany in 2014 ? Further back there were tournaments when qualifying for the knock-out stages depended on how many you put past Zaire , think the Yougoslavs scored 9 or so.Yeah if you want to go back over thirty years you can find similar scores. If true, the fact that the thais just gave up in what should be the biggest tournament just proves my point. BBC sport have it on their front page like it's a triumph when in reality it's a complete embarrassment. They should be taking steps to make the tournament more exclusive with teams on a more comparable level if they ever want to gain more legitimacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 June, 2019 Share Posted 12 June, 2019 Yeah if you want to go back over thirty years you can find similar scores. If true, the fact that the thais just gave up in what should be the biggest tournament just proves my point. BBC sport have it on their front page like it's a triumph when in reality it's a complete embarrassment. They should be taking steps to make the tournament more exclusive with teams on a more comparable level if they ever want to gain more legitimacy. You are absolutely right there, the Thais,among others, shouldn't be in this tournament and 16 teams would be quite enough. But then it's about commercial issues again isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 12 June, 2019 Share Posted 12 June, 2019 If it's a World Cup, then all teams around the world can enter. I hope the Thais aren't feeling utterly demoralised today after that. Any chance we can get a bid in on Jill Morgan? I would say she's a babe, but such comments seem to annoy the 'new men' like Batman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 June, 2019 Share Posted 12 June, 2019 If it's a World Cup, then all teams around the world can enter. I hope the Thais aren't feeling utterly demoralised today after that. Any chance we can get a bid in on Jill Morgan? I would say she's a babe, but such comments seem to annoy the 'new men' like Batman. To be sure they can all enter but it's FIFA's job to ensure that pure rubbish like the Thais, totally inadapted to football, don't make fools of themselves before a global audience. They obviously want maximum commercial revenue so effectively they've allowed a nation to do exactly that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 June, 2019 Share Posted 12 June, 2019 If it's a World Cup, then all teams around the world can enter. I hope the Thais aren't feeling utterly demoralised today after that. Any chance we can get a bid in on Jill Morgan? I would say she's a babe, but such comments seem to annoy the 'new men' like Batman. Alex Morgan you mean ? Thought she made Shane Long look a bit puny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 12 June, 2019 Share Posted 12 June, 2019 Joke that anyone can win 13 nil in a world cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 June, 2019 Share Posted 12 June, 2019 Joke that anyone can win 13 nil in a world cup.And then you get utter nonsense like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashnats Posted 12 June, 2019 Share Posted 12 June, 2019 And then you get utter nonsense like this. I agree with this, the pay is unequal. Men get paid ~8% of revenue, whereas the women are getting paid 13%. They should reduce the women's pay to be more equivalent to the mens. (or increase the men's pay to that of the women) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 June, 2019 Share Posted 12 June, 2019 I agree with this, the pay is unequal. Men get paid ~8% of revenue, whereas the women are getting paid 13%. They should reduce the women's pay to be more equivalent to the mens. (or increase the men's pay to that of the women) Or even better do away with women only competitions entirely and have just mixed gender events. Let them see how it feels to take a 25-0 or so beating by a middle ranked men's side. Pay to be based on results of course. I agree entirely with equal pay for equal work but in this case it isn't is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 12 June, 2019 Share Posted 12 June, 2019 Or even better do away with women only competitions entirely and have just mixed gender events. Let them see how it feels to take a 25-0 or so beating by a middle ranked men's side. Pay to be based on results of course. I agree entirely with equal pay for equal work but in this case it isn't is it. My thoughts exactly. I have often wondered wat the maximum score could be in practical terms. It takes quite a bit of time to run up half the pitch, score, bring the ball back and wait for the other team to kick off again. I have played in quite a few drubbings in my time. On the receiving end, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 12 June, 2019 Author Share Posted 12 June, 2019 My thoughts exactly. I have often wondered wat the maximum score could be in practical terms. It takes quite a bit of time to run up half the pitch, score, bring the ball back and wait for the other team to kick off again. I have played in quite a few drubbings in my time. On the receiving end, of course. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/nigeria/10197198/Plateau-United-Feeders-and-Police-Machine-players-banned-after-Nigerian-football-matches-end-79-0-and-67-0.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 12 June, 2019 Share Posted 12 June, 2019 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/nigeria/10197198/Plateau-United-Feeders-and-Police-Machine-players-banned-after-Nigerian-football-matches-end-79-0-and-67-0.html Remarkable, but hot actually legal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 13 June, 2019 Share Posted 13 June, 2019 Pretty soft penalty that the French got yesterday evening ?? I mean the norwegian cleared the ball and just kicked the french woman a bit on her follow through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 13 June, 2019 Share Posted 13 June, 2019 Pretty soft penalty that the French got yesterday evening ?? I mean the norwegian cleared the ball and just kicked the french woman a bit on her follow through. Yeah, an odd one that. In live time, I called 'penalty' and when play continued I was calling for VAR. When it went to VAR and was played back multiple times, I saw the French player, both feet off the floor, jump into the kick path of the Norweigan player, who - as you say - connected with the French maid's knee on the follow through. Then I was in the camp of 'NO penalty'. I was amazed it was then given as a penalty!!! Diani though. She can go into my fantasy dream team any time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 14 June, 2019 Author Share Posted 14 June, 2019 Can Cabbage tell us what he thinks please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 14 June, 2019 Author Share Posted 14 June, 2019 Pearce can’t bring himself to say any thing is poor as he would inevitably have said in men’s game. As some England player completely fcks up a cross all he says is ‘wide’ Barry Davies would have blown a gasket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 15 June, 2019 Share Posted 15 June, 2019 Pearce can’t bring himself to say any thing is poor as he would inevitably have said in men’s game. As some England player completely fcks up a cross all he says is ‘wide’ Barry Davies would have blown a gasket First time I bothered watching it last night. It's a complete load of t0ss, frankly. The strange fawning by Pearce was making my skin crawl. I noticed how he'd almost sound critical, then cover it over with how she was a 'leader' or was this or that. You can imagine him being the sort of person who would switch to a winning side... very weasly. The football was utter g4sh and to see grown up blokes in wigs, facepaint etc was, er, strange. Fair enough, if it makes them happy let them get on with their WC but the 5 minute long adverts, constantly over-pumped articles and a thinly disguised anti-male agenda is nauseating and worrying for the future. Let's be serious and recognise it for what it is; a substandard but fairly harmless event given far too much attention than it deserves because the over-sensitive, snowflake media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 15 June, 2019 Share Posted 15 June, 2019 Pearce is without doubt the worst commentator- I think I would rather listen to Daffy Duck commentate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 15 June, 2019 Author Share Posted 15 June, 2019 (edited) Indeed not doing them a any favours. Apparently Souness criticised Alex Scott on some opinion. She said she was pleased because that is how he would have replied to Redknapp etc. Although people piled onto him as he wasn’t respecting a woman’s opinion. I don’t mind this WC at all, the only thing that grates is the BBC and others pretence of its status. As bad is blokes banging on about how sh1t it is - we can all see its level. Edited 15 June, 2019 by whelk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 15 June, 2019 Share Posted 15 June, 2019 Indeed not doing them a any favours. Apparently Souness criticised Alex Scott on some opinion. She said she was pleased because that is how he would have replied to Redknapp etc. Although people piled onto him as he wasn’t respecting a woman’s opinion. I don’t mind this WC at all, the only thing that grates is the BBC and others pretence of its status. As bad is blokes banging on about how sh1t it is - we can all see its level. Haha, I remember that. Souness didn't even do anything wrong - and that's where we're at now in society. I'd watched women's football before out of curiosity but the WC in Canada was actually something I watched alot of. It was a nice balance of exposure for me. I've actually been completely put off it now, it genuinely feels like an unrelenting, neverending wave of pro-feminine propaganda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 15 June, 2019 Share Posted 15 June, 2019 I just switched over and the first shot was that of the French captain.. think I might just leave it on.. Btw that huge French defender looks like the female version of Van Dijk. I thought that too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 16 June, 2019 Author Share Posted 16 June, 2019 Today’s game are hard to call. A £10 double on Sweden and USA will win you a whopping 30p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 16 June, 2019 Share Posted 16 June, 2019 USA are simply ...awesome ..(to quote a word from their language) If it wasn;t for the Chile keeper (Enda?) who is playing really well this would be another cricket score. And Alex Morgan not even playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 16 June, 2019 Share Posted 16 June, 2019 USA look miles ahead of everyone else. They haven’t been really tested yet though and it will be interesting to see what they are like defensively if a side ever gets to put them under some pressure. The Swedes should give them a tougher test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 16 June, 2019 Share Posted 16 June, 2019 Today’s game are hard to call. A £10 double on Sweden and USA will win you a whopping 30p Bit like a double on Man City versus um...Saints and Liverpool v Huddersfield last season Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 17 June, 2019 Share Posted 17 June, 2019 USA look miles ahead of everyone else. They haven’t been really tested yet though and it will be interesting to see what they are like defensively if a side ever gets to put them under some pressure. The Swedes should give them a tougher test. Doubt it. The USA girls are by far the best side in the tournament. Their game even approaches real football at times. Mind you that's probably normal, they've all probably been through their collegiate system just to play football and get some sort of social sciences degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 17 June, 2019 Author Share Posted 17 June, 2019 Bit like a double on Man City versus um...Saints and Liverpool v Huddersfield last season Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk No, nowhere near those odds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 17 June, 2019 Author Share Posted 17 June, 2019 Game’s gone. Retake of missed pen for hosts as keeper had one foot off line and booked as well, Joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 17 June, 2019 Share Posted 17 June, 2019 Game’s gone. Retake of missed pen for hosts as keeper had one foot off line and booked as well, Joke Knew when I heard of that rule change it was appalling. Attacker can do all the stutters they like but keeper has to stay stuck to line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 18 June, 2019 Share Posted 18 June, 2019 Knew when I heard of that rule change it was appalling. Attacker can do all the stutters they like but keeper has to stay stuck to line. Stuttering is legal but encroachment isn’t and from what I’ve heard there was quite a bit of that, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 June, 2019 Share Posted 19 June, 2019 Wow, that Italian number 13 was useful, a bit of a pyscho though. Not a bad game yesterday evening, apart from the ridiculous penalty of course. Seems now that with this new-fangled VAR you just need to run into an opponent in the box and bingo, spotty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 19 June, 2019 Author Share Posted 19 June, 2019 Ffs Var again for the Argies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 19 June, 2019 Author Share Posted 19 June, 2019 Ref stopped the game forever and then adds fck all time on. VAR is so sh1t mostly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 20 June, 2019 Share Posted 20 June, 2019 (edited) So with the result of that game it appears that whomsoever wins one of tonight's "no interest" games will qualifiy for the knock out stages. Imagine the absolutely dire Thailand beating Chile with Cameroon and NZ drawing and you have Thailand in the last 16. Don't think that'll happen though, Cameroon should get the spot easily enough. Edited 20 June, 2019 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 23 June, 2019 Author Share Posted 23 June, 2019 Elbows to the face and spitting from Cameroon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 23 June, 2019 Share Posted 23 June, 2019 Elbows to the face and spitting from Cameroon.The way they've acted in this match will be totally ignored by the "women's football is so much fairer" brigade who champion it as a bastion of sportsmanship and fair play. Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 23 June, 2019 Share Posted 23 June, 2019 Loved the Norway v Australia game last night. England need to cut out the sloppy play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 23 June, 2019 Author Share Posted 23 June, 2019 Dirty cnts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 23 June, 2019 Share Posted 23 June, 2019 Loved the Norway v Australia game last night. England need to cut out the sloppy play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 23 June, 2019 Share Posted 23 June, 2019 The way they've acted in this match will be totally ignored by the "women's football is so much fairer" brigade who champion it as a bastion of sportsmanship and fair play. It is, by and large. The exception doesn't make the rule. We have a young winger who acts like she's just snorted, occasionally, but there is nothing like I've seen at my male friend's Sunday League games. You should get out a bit more and watch some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashnats Posted 24 June, 2019 Share Posted 24 June, 2019 It is, by and large. The exception doesn't make the rule. We have a young winger who acts like she's just snorted, occasionally, but there is nothing like I've seen at my male friend's Sunday League games. You should get out a bit more and watch some. This. You can't compare women's internationals with premier league level men's games. Sunday league is where the relevant comparison is - and at that level, the men misbehave far more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 24 June, 2019 Share Posted 24 June, 2019 This. You can't compare women's internationals with premier league level men's games. Sunday league is where the relevant comparison is - and at that level, the men misbehave far more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picard Posted 27 June, 2019 Share Posted 27 June, 2019 Good start, should go on to win this match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 June, 2019 Share Posted 27 June, 2019 Fair play this is a pretty enjoyable game. As long as they keep the var and gender politics out of it then this is certainly watchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 June, 2019 Share Posted 27 June, 2019 Really wish they would stop comparing men's football world records with the women's though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 27 June, 2019 Share Posted 27 June, 2019 I've just deleted a response to Hypo, there really is just no point. It's why I venture on these threads very infrequently. Full of old or sad *uckers from a previous era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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