east-stand-nic Posted July 18 Posted July 18 10 minutes ago, egg said: Again that's a misinterpretation, and a conflation of different points. She's correct that racism comes in different forms, also that some people see colour, and that other people suffer non racist prejudice. Anyone who sees anything different in her actual words is looking for something imo. MP Diane Abbott 'sorry' over Twitter race comments - BBC News https://share.google/iygY09Fus66C1VswO Racism vs “racism”: why Diane Abbott was right | 33revolutionsperminute's Blog https://share.google/algXUviTFwT05l6cc Yep. She means nothing bad. Nothing to read into her comments over the years at all. 1
egg Posted July 18 Posted July 18 1 minute ago, east-stand-nic said: MP Diane Abbott 'sorry' over Twitter race comments - BBC News https://share.google/iygY09Fus66C1VswO Racism vs “racism”: why Diane Abbott was right | 33revolutionsperminute's Blog https://share.google/algXUviTFwT05l6cc Yep. She means nothing bad. Nothing to read into her comments over the years at all. I was commenting on the comments which led to her losing the whip petal. 1
Turkish Posted July 18 Author Posted July 18 15 minutes ago, egg said: Again that's a misinterpretation, and a conflation of different points. She's correct that racism comes in different forms, also that some people see colour, and that other people suffer non racist prejudice. Anyone who sees anything different in her actual words is looking for something imo. I never said it didnt. However she makes a point that black people are judged for being black because you can tell they're black from looking at them. The same goes for Red heads, orthodox jews, muslims etc. Also that these people hadn't suffered racism all their lives. How does she know?
egg Posted July 18 Posted July 18 Just now, Turkish said: I never said it didnt. However she makes a point that black people are judged for being black because you can tell they're black from looking at them. The same goes for Red heads, orthodox jews, muslims etc. Also that these people hadn't suffered racism all their lives. How does she know? Again you misinterpret and conflate. Also she did not say that Jews and Muslims have not suffered racism all their lives. She actually said that racism comes in different forms, some based on first appearances. I doubt anyone seriously disputes that. Additionally - and it was clearly an additional point - she said that some people suffer prejudice because of physical characteristics, but not a lifetime of racism. My missus is a redhead, and on any assessment she won't have suffered racism, or a level of prejudice endured by black people, Jews, travellers (the people that Abbott actually mentioned). Again, I'd be staggered of anyone seriously disputes that. 1
Gloucester Saint Posted July 18 Posted July 18 I don’t like Dianne Abbott, never have and never will. However, whilst her remarks didn’t really need to be discussed and re-interrogated in an interview (when will she learn?), there is at least some interpretation. However, no debate needed on the pure, unarguable and vile racism from Nigel Farage and especially Sarah Pochin https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ask-me-another-question-reform-mp-fumes-at-journalist-over-afghan-sex-offenders-row_uk_6878b62be4b0b08368f4dfc1 ‘Well, I don’t think there’s any doubt whatsoever that there is hardcore evidence that this group, this particular culture, Afghan men, have a much lower regard for raping women than a white British cohort of men’. Notice here that she says white British men, not just British men. Little wonder the Times Radio host was exasperated. Nick Griffin would have blushed at that statement. No evidence either https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/nigel-farage-says-some-afghans-airlifted-to-uk-are-sex-offenders-but-theres-no-evidence-thats-true_uk_6876e3cbe4b0bdf6e2f0fbe3?origin=related-recirc MoD fucked up royally and shame on the Tories but no excuse for pure racism and white supremacism from Farage and Pochin. 4
Lord Duckhunter Posted July 19 Posted July 19 On 18/07/2025 at 10:00, egg said: Anyone who sees anything different in her actual words is looking for something imo. So you’re saying the Labour Party were looking to suspend her?
egg Posted July 19 Posted July 19 1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said: So you’re saying the Labour Party were looking to suspend her? I haven't commented on the labour party motives . Or that of the leadership. I said that anyone who sees anything different in her actual words to the actual words is looking for something. 2
rallyboy Posted July 21 Posted July 21 When she was at her stupidest, Philip Hammond made an equally stupid mistake in the Commons. Some people chose to highlight hers and ignore the one made by a white man, they're still at it now. We see you.
whelk Posted July 21 Posted July 21 England’s women no longer taking the knee. Feels like a very tired gesture to still be doing these days. 1
AlexLaw76 Posted July 21 Posted July 21 29 minutes ago, whelk said: England’s women no longer taking the knee. Feels like a very tired gesture to still be doing these days. If you don’t take the knee, how can you possible stop racism!? 2
Turkish Posted July 21 Author Posted July 21 (edited) 14 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: If you don’t take the knee, how can you possible stop racism!? I’m calling Whelk out here as he is clearly racist as he is against anyone doing things to stop racism when being opposed to racism gets tired we know how racist society is Edited July 21 by Turkish
whelk Posted July 21 Posted July 21 33 minutes ago, Turkish said: I’m calling Whelk out here as he is clearly racist If I was racist why did I get my swastika tattoo changed to be a picture of Nelson Mandela? Also a true racist wouldn’t use Uber as much as I do.
badgerx16 Posted July 21 Posted July 21 26 minutes ago, whelk said: Also a true racist wouldn’t use Uber as much as I do. As in "Deutschland Uber Alles" ? 1
Turkish Posted July 21 Author Posted July 21 26 minutes ago, whelk said: If I was racist why did I get my swastika tattoo changed to be a picture of Nelson Mandela? Also a true racist wouldn’t use Uber as much as I do. Can spot a racist a mile off, likes curry, accuses others of being racist, denies being racist themselves, goes on holiday to the Caribbean because they like having black people serve them like in the old days I’ve got your number pal. Bet you’ve already watched Katy Hopkins latest twitter post haven’t you
Whitey Grandad Posted July 23 Posted July 23 On 21/07/2025 at 14:59, badgerx16 said: As in "Deutschland Uber Alles" ? That would be "Deutschland Über Alles" and the first verse of the Deutschland Lied has been banned since The War, but we don't mention that.
Holmes_and_Watson Posted July 27 Posted July 27 14 hours ago, Turkish said: Turkish attempts to launch an Agyemang fan club, to support the Lionesses. 🙂 2
Turkish Posted August 5 Author Posted August 5 Jeans https://www.the-express.com/entertainment/celebrity-news/179349/sydney-sweeney-heckled-angry-fan-premiere
whelk Posted August 5 Posted August 5 58 minutes ago, Turkish said: Jeans https://www.the-express.com/entertainment/celebrity-news/179349/sydney-sweeney-heckled-angry-fan-premiere She has been slaughtered for that advert and been in tears. Think the jeans company pulled or modified it since.
Turkish Posted August 5 Author Posted August 5 10 minutes ago, whelk said: She has been slaughtered for that advert and been in tears. Think the jeans company pulled or modified it since. I saw one of them this morning. if you really wanted to look for racism everywhere like some people do you possibly interpret it that way one of the arguments made was if they’d got a person of colour to do the advert instead it wouldn’t have been racist as it wouldn’t have had white supremacy undertones was quite frankly ridiculous.
egg Posted August 6 Posted August 6 (edited) 18 hours ago, Turkish said: I saw one of them this morning. if you really wanted to look for racism everywhere like some people do you possibly interpret it that way one of the arguments made was if they’d got a person of colour to do the advert instead it wouldn’t have been racist as it wouldn’t have had white supremacy undertones was quite frankly ridiculous. It's utter nonsense. The ad does not denigrate the genetics of any race, or seek to promote genetic superiority of white people. It's a play on words. Nobody would have batted an eyelid if a black model had done the ad. Edited August 6 by egg 1
whelk Posted August 6 Posted August 6 Jeans, an eagle, blonde, blue eyes, talking about genetics - couldn’t get more white supremacist without her being wrapped in a confederate flag on bonnet of a pick-up truck.
whelk Posted August 6 Posted August 6 And I’m sure she is having loads of fun now on social media after revealing that she is a Republican.
egg Posted August 6 Posted August 6 15 minutes ago, whelk said: Jeans, an eagle, blonde, blue eyes, talking about genetics - couldn’t get more white supremacist without her being wrapped in a confederate flag on bonnet of a pick-up truck. Or a very simple "we're ALL a product of our genes" message. It's only a white supremacist thing of you look for the things that would support that position. Would the ad would have been ok with a white brunette?
Gloucester Saint Posted August 6 Posted August 6 24 minutes ago, whelk said: Jeans, an eagle, blonde, blue eyes, talking about genetics - couldn’t get more white supremacist without her being wrapped in a confederate flag on bonnet of a pick-up truck. Trump, Vance and David Duke will be having a good old tug at that image
Turkish Posted August 6 Author Posted August 6 (edited) 14 minutes ago, egg said: Or a very simple "we're ALL a product of our genes" message. It's only a white supremacist thing of you look for the things that would support that position. Would the ad would have been ok with a white brunette? Here they all are the one causing the controversy seems to be the one where she says about genes passed down and her genes/jeans are blue. the social warriors are having field day with it especially now trump has supported her I guess racism is above celebrating women in the woke league this week Edited August 6 by Turkish
whelk Posted August 6 Posted August 6 6 minutes ago, egg said: Or a very simple "we're ALL a product of our genes" message. It's only a white supremacist thing of you look for the things that would support that position. Would the ad would have been ok with a white brunette? My response was tongue in cheek but speaks to the times, especially in the US, where such things polarise opinion with Trump and Vance chiming in. 1
whelk Posted August 6 Posted August 6 I always knew she was a wrong ‘un after seeing her in The White Lotus
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