Things That are Racist

[east-stand-nic]

10 minutes ago, egg said:

Again that's a misinterpretation, and a conflation of different points. She's correct that racism comes in different forms, also that some people see colour, and that other people suffer non racist prejudice. Anyone who sees anything different in her actual words is looking for something imo. 

MP Diane Abbott 'sorry' over Twitter race comments - BBC News https://share.google/iygY09Fus66C1VswO

Racism vs “racism”: why Diane Abbott was right | 33revolutionsperminute's Blog https://share.google/algXUviTFwT05l6cc

Yep. She means nothing bad. Nothing to read into her comments over the years at all. 

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1 minute ago, east-stand-nic said:

MP Diane Abbott 'sorry' over Twitter race comments - BBC News https://share.google/iygY09Fus66C1VswO

Racism vs “racism”: why Diane Abbott was right | 33revolutionsperminute's Blog https://share.google/algXUviTFwT05l6cc

Yep. She means nothing bad. Nothing to read into her comments over the years at all. 

I was commenting on the comments which led to her losing the whip petal. 

[Turkish]

15 minutes ago, egg said:

Again that's a misinterpretation, and a conflation of different points. She's correct that racism comes in different forms, also that some people see colour, and that other people suffer non racist prejudice. Anyone who sees anything different in her actual words is looking for something imo. 

I never said it didnt. 

However she makes a point that black people are judged for being black because you can tell they're black from looking at them. The same goes for Red heads, orthodox jews, muslims etc. Also that these people hadn't suffered racism all their lives. How does she know? 
 

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Just now, Turkish said:

I never said it didnt. 

However she makes a point that black people are judged for being black because you can tell they're black from looking at them. The same goes for Red heads, orthodox jews, muslims etc. Also that these people hadn't suffered racism all their lives. How does she know? 
 

Again you misinterpret and conflate. Also she did not say that Jews and Muslims have not suffered racism all their lives. 

She actually said that racism comes in different forms, some based on first appearances. I doubt anyone seriously disputes that. 

Additionally - and it was clearly an additional point - she said that some people suffer prejudice because of physical characteristics, but not a lifetime of racism.

My missus is a redhead, and on any assessment she won't have suffered racism, or a level of prejudice endured by black people, Jews, travellers (the people that Abbott actually mentioned). Again, I'd be staggered of anyone seriously disputes that. 

[Gloucester Saint]

I don’t like Dianne Abbott, never have and never will.

However, whilst her remarks didn’t really need to be discussed and re-interrogated in an interview (when will she learn?), there is at least some interpretation.

However, no debate needed on the pure, unarguable and vile racism from Nigel Farage and especially Sarah Pochin https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ask-me-another-question-reform-mp-fumes-at-journalist-over-afghan-sex-offenders-row_uk_6878b62be4b0b08368f4dfc1

‘Well, I don’t think there’s any doubt whatsoever that there is hardcore evidence that this group, this particular culture, Afghan men, have a much lower regard for raping women than a white British cohort of men’.

Notice here that she says white British men, not just British men.

Little wonder the Times Radio host was exasperated. Nick Griffin would have blushed at that statement. No evidence either https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/nigel-farage-says-some-afghans-airlifted-to-uk-are-sex-offenders-but-theres-no-evidence-thats-true_uk_6876e3cbe4b0bdf6e2f0fbe3?origin=related-recirc

MoD fucked up royally and shame on the Tories but no excuse for pure racism and white supremacism from Farage and Pochin.