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13 hours ago, aintforever said:

Studies of the earliest viral genomes seem to indicate the Wuhan market as the cause, they even pinpoint the actual location within the market.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2448671-evidence-points-to-wuhan-market-as-source-of-covid-19-outbreak/

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy8095xjg4po

We will probably never know for sure but it would be interesting to see the actual evidence for it starting from the lab.

And yet this week:

 

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Posted
31 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

And yet this week:

 

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As posted yesterday, the CIA, on the day after it's new Trump appointed head takes position, states "with low confidence" that it has changed it's opinion.

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11 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

As posted yesterday, the CIA, on the day after it's new Trump appointed head takes position, states "with low confidence" that it has changed it's opinion.

 

But officials told US media that the new assessment was not based on new intelligence and predates the Trump administration. The review was reportedly ordered in the closing weeks of the Biden administration and completed before Trump took office on Monday.

Like you said it's unlikely we will ever know the truth either way. My argument has always been that we should have always been allowed to discuss the possibility of a lab leak. 

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7 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

 

But officials told US media that the new assessment was not based on new intelligence and predates the Trump administration. The review was reportedly ordered in the closing weeks of the Biden administration and completed before Trump took office on Monday.

Like you said it's unlikely we will ever know the truth either way. My argument has always been that we should have always been allowed to discuss the possibility of a lab leak. 

What is their evidence?

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Posted
59 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

And yet this week:

 

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Both could be possible. A lab leak that spread to a local market perhaps?

I don’t believe in coincidences. An outbreak of a new type of disease in an area close to a laboratory specialising in obscure viruses?

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54 minutes ago, aintforever said:

What is their evidence?

I would suggest that the evidence they have access to is greater than the evidence you or I possess given the nature of their organisation. Will probably never know but it's certainly not a laughable theory, it's entirely plausible.

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46 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Both could be possible. A lab leak that spread to a local market perhaps?

I don’t believe in coincidences. An outbreak of a new type of disease in an area close to a laboratory specialising in obscure viruses?

That's quite likely in my opinion. Lab leak with the outbreak starting in the market. 

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24 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I would suggest that the evidence they have access to is greater than the evidence you or I possess given the nature of their organisation. Will probably never know but it's certainly not a laughable theory, it's entirely plausible.

I know it's entirely plausible, but so is the idea that they are just saying that for political reasons. I'd be tempted to believe the scientists more than the spokesman for an agency working for a government with an anti-China agenda. They are free to disclose their evidence if they have any.

"“Now, the most important thing is to make China pay for unleashing a plague on the world,” Cotton said in a statement."

 

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https://observer.co.uk/culture/article/blame-bats-film-covid-review?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-gb

"A new film about the origins of Covid-19 tells how rightwing conspiracy theorists pushed the lab-leak theory to their own ends, suppressing the work of real scientists"

"Every pandemic virus in history, from influenza to HIV/Aids, started life in an animal reservoir and there was no reason to believe that Sars-CoV-2 was any different."

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Posted (edited)
8 hours ago, Turkish said:

I see there is a new strain ripping through the country. Symptoms appear to be exactly like hay fever but can lead to serious illness. Very worrying times 

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/health/hay-fever-covid-how-tell-31878973

 

 

There is a concern amongst some of the great and good, that not having any symptoms related to Covid might mean you have covid.

Get yer furlough applications forms out!!!

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Posted
15 minutes ago, whelk said:

Was this you Nic?

 

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Sounds like you. Incapable of debate so just calls names, berates and makes jokes to deflect from your lack of intelligence. I think I shall just let you have your fun and accept I am waiting my time replying to you. Enjoy your next booster. 

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54 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

Sounds like you. Incapable of debate so just calls names, berates and makes jokes to deflect from your lack of intelligence. I think I shall just let you have your fun and accept I am waiting my time replying to you. Enjoy your next booster. 

What's your views on vapour trails from planes Nic? Do you believe they're something more? 

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