What Is Happening To Our Country?

[ecuk268]

33 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

Musk is a hero. He quite literally saved freedom of speech, at great personal risk and expense, for the west - rescuing it from the clutches of shit for brains managerial HR left-liberals and Bay Area woke engineers

 

The grok image stuff is a media fabrication and exaggeration because these same globalists don’t want people having free speech. 

Every AI platform has created dodgy stuff - where is your anger about Claude or Gemini? 
 

They would have tried to cover it all up, just like they tried to cover up Southport and the Rape gangs. They don’t care about treating people equally or lowering crime if it hurts their liberal ideals. 
 

Show us evidence that it's a media fabrication.

Musk admitted that it happened but blamed it on the users and is now facing multiple law suits, which is strange if the problem doesn't exist.

Still waiting for your evidence that the police would try to cover up the stabbing.

[badgerx16]

6 minutes ago, ecuk268 said:

Show us evidence that it's a media fabrication.

Musk admitted that it happened but blamed it on the users and is now facing multiple law suits, which is strange if the problem doesn't exist.

Still waiting for your evidence that the police would try to cover up the stabbing.

It hasn't been posted on SM yet.

[tdmickey3]

35 minutes ago, ecuk268 said:

Show us evidence that it's a media fabrication.

Musk admitted that it happened but blamed it on the users and is now facing multiple law suits, which is strange if the problem doesn't exist.

Still waiting for your evidence that the police would try to cover up the stabbing.

You have a long wait ahead

[Osvaldorama]

56 minutes ago, ecuk268 said:

Show us evidence that it's a media fabrication.

Musk admitted that it happened but blamed it on the users and is now facing multiple law suits, which is strange if the problem doesn't exist.

Still waiting for your evidence that the police would try to cover up the stabbing.

The point is every new AI tool has produced illicit / malicious stuff. 
Then they fixed it. 
 

They only made a point of weaponising it in the media in the case of Grok because they want to silence free speech. 
 

The proof of the cover ups is in how they’ve handled these cases in the past. Of course there would be no proof of a cover up, it wouldn’t be a very good cover up 😂. 

They clearly silence any media story that could upset the leftist idea that mass immigration is a wonderful thing. 

Edited yesterday at 13:48 by Osvaldorama

[tdmickey3]

4 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

The point is every new AI tool has produced illicit / malicious stuff. 
Then they fixed it. 
 

They only made a point of weaponising it in the media in the case of Grok because they want to silence free speech. 
 

The proof of the cover ups is in how they’ve handled these cases in the past. Of course there would be no proof of a cover up, it wouldn’t be a very good cover up 😂. 

They clearly silence any media story that could upset the leftist idea that mass immigration is a wonderful thing. 

Stick to Tiktok, the odd bods on there will lap up your utter mentalist crap, on here we can spot a raving loon easily

[Osvaldorama]

Just now, tdmickey3 said:

Stick to Tiktok, the odd bods on there will lap up your utter mentalist crap, on here we can spot a raving loon easily

Another thoughtful , well rounded post from the forums smartest poster. Thanks for that 

[whelk]

3 hours ago, Osvaldorama said:

The thing I don’t get about you liberals is.. why are you more angry at the people standing up for the country, protecting our way of life than the criminals? 
 

Elon musk is a hero for buying X. Literally the only the way the truth of how corrupt the establishment are ever gets out. 
 

Without X, no one would ever know about this case as it would have been covered up. Same as the rape gangs. 
 

The judiciary system is completely broken. The legacy media is complicit. 

Genuine question, have you had a bang on the head recently?

[whelk]

3 hours ago, Osvaldorama said:

is.. why are you more angry at the people standing up for the country, protecting our way of life than the criminals?

Actually read some posts maybe? Yeah conclude I am a liberal sort soft on criminals? Or maybe I can spot a stormtrooper thug full of rage a lot better than you?

Problem with you conspiracy lot is you project an argument so simple that no one is saying. 
 

Tiresome

[Osvaldorama]

2 minutes ago, whelk said:

Actually read some posts maybe? Yeah conclude I am a liberal sort soft on criminals? Or maybe I can spot a stormtrooper thug full of rage a lot better than you?

Problem with you conspiracy lot is you project an argument so simple that no one is saying. 
 

Tiresome

I haven’t read any of your previous posts. I was just responding that one. You seem more annoyed at Farage for calling out institutional bias than you do at the institutional bias. lol. 
 

I’m not sure how to respond to your second point as that’s not what I did in the slightest   
 

But you have a vision of what you think is best for the country. As do I. 
 

I find the consumer, government loving, woke mindset as tiresome (which seems to be the majority) as you find the producer, independent-thinking mindset. 

Edited yesterday at 14:08 by Osvaldorama

[tdmickey3]

6 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

I haven’t read any of your previous posts. I was just responding that one. You seem more annoyed at Farage for calling out institutional bias than you do at the institutional bias. lol. 
 

I’m not sure how to respond to your second point as that’s not what I did in the slightest   
 

But you have a vision of what you think is best for the country. As do I. 
 

I find the consumer, government loving, woke mindset as tiresome (which seems to be the majority) as you find the producer, independent-thinking mindset. 

[Gloucester Saint]

2 hours ago, Osvaldorama said:

Musk is a hero. He quite literally saved freedom of speech, at great personal risk and expense, for the west - rescuing it from the clutches of shit for brains managerial HR left-liberals and Bay Area woke engineers

 

The grok image stuff is a media fabrication and exaggeration because these same globalists don’t want people having free speech. 

Every AI platform has created dodgy stuff - where is your anger about Claude or Gemini? 
 

They would have tried to cover it all up, just like they tried to cover up Southport and the Rape gangs. They don’t care about treating people equally or lowering crime if it hurts their liberal ideals. 
 

We have to pay for Musk’s utter stupidity with the wrongly identified two officers needing expensive safe houses and guarding to stop a far right lynch mob from killing more innocent people https://news.sky.com/story/ex-police-officer-falsely-identified-by-grok-in-henry-nowak-arrest-is-forced-to-flee-13550667

[ecuk268]

1 hour ago, Osvaldorama said:

The point is every new AI tool has produced illicit / malicious stuff. 
Then they fixed it. 
 

They only made a point of weaponising it in the media in the case of Grok because they want to silence free speech. 
 

The proof of the cover ups is in how they’ve handled these cases in the past. Of course there would be no proof of a cover up, it wouldn’t be a very good cover up 😂. 

They clearly silence any media story that could upset the leftist idea that mass immigration is a wonderful thing. 

So you have no evidence, it's just your opinion.

[badgerx16]

5 minutes ago, ecuk268 said:

So you have no evidence, it's just your opinion.

No, it's the opinion he has been fed.

[ecuk268]

I see that one of the men charged with throwing traffic cones at police refused to come to court as he was in the cells "crying his eyes out".

Good to see that we have such brave and committed individuals protecting out rights and freedoms.

[badgerx16]

An innocent man was convicted of a violent rape, was given a life sentence, and served 17 years before his conviction was quashed.

The actual perpetratrator has been given 24 years and will be eligible for parole in 14 years.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c99l93md0gko

[Holmes_and_Watson]

2 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

An innocent man was convicted of a violent rape, was given a life sentence, and served 17 years before his conviction was quashed.

The actual perpetratrator has been given 24 years and will be eligible for parole in 14 years.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c99l93md0gko

I had a quick look to see what Malkinson's minimum term would have been. Had he admitted guilt, it was 6.5 years, when he'd then be eligible for parole. Even if the first hearing failed, he would have had access to various sex offender programmes designed for prisoners to be able to be released. By refusing to admit guilt, he couldn't get onto any of those.

[Gloucester Saint]

4 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

I had a quick look to see what Malkinson's minimum term would have been. Had he admitted guilt, it was 6.5 years, when he'd then be eligible for parole. Even if the first hearing failed, he would have had access to various sex offender programmes designed for prisoners to be able to be released. By refusing to admit guilt, he couldn't get onto any of those.

Such a pitiful state of affairs. 

[badgerx16]

1 hour ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

I had a quick look to see what Malkinson's minimum term would have been. Had he admitted guilt, it was 6.5 years, when he'd then be eligible for parole. Even if the first hearing failed, he would have had access to various sex offender programmes designed for prisoners to be able to be released. By refusing to admit guilt, he couldn't get onto any of those.

And the real offender would stay free. 

The whole Malkinson prosecution was mismanaged from the start - why should he have admitted guilt and spent the rest of his life as a convicted sex offender knowing he was totally innocent ?

[badgerx16]

J D Vance on Twatter -

 

"Henry Nowak died the same way a civilization dies: abandoned, handcuffed by authorities who neither trusted nor cared for him, and accused of hate crimes he did not commit. His murder is as tragic as it is enraging. He should still be alive today, and he would be if the last few generations of European elites had stood their ground against the politics of self-hatred and the mass invasion of migrants, many of whom despise the West and the people who love it. Henry was far from the first to so needlessly lose his life, and I fear he won’t be the last. Each time a life like his is lost, the proper response—the only response—is righteous anger. One of the most important things the Trump administration has proven to the world is that stopping the flow of mass migration and defending national sovereignty is a matter of political will and leadership. Anything else is an excuse. It is because we love the West that we want to preserve it. We love our civilization. We love our country. We love our children. And nobody—nobody—should ever die the way that Henry Nowak died. May God comfort those who loved him, and may God rest his soul."

 

Perhaps the VP of a country with frequent mass shootings in schools should concentrate on the problems of his own shithole.

[Farmer Saint]

@Osvaldorama why do you believe conspiracy theories? From your writing, you don't seem stupid, so I'm wondering what personality traits you suffer from to make you think like that? A lack of wanting to analyse situations and a reliance on intuition perhaps? Narcissism? Genuinely interested as to why if you heard hooves you'd think zebra rather than horse.

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

J D Vance on Twatter -

 

"Henry Nowak died the same way a civilization dies: abandoned, handcuffed by authorities who neither trusted nor cared for him, and accused of hate crimes he did not commit. His murder is as tragic as it is enraging. He should still be alive today, and he would be if the last few generations of European elites had stood their ground against the politics of self-hatred and the mass invasion of migrants, many of whom despise the West and the people who love it. Henry was far from the first to so needlessly lose his life, and I fear he won’t be the last. Each time a life like his is lost, the proper response—the only response—is righteous anger. One of the most important things the Trump administration has proven to the world is that stopping the flow of mass migration and defending national sovereignty is a matter of political will and leadership. Anything else is an excuse. It is because we love the West that we want to preserve it. We love our civilization. We love our country. We love our children. And nobody—nobody—should ever die the way that Henry Nowak died. May God comfort those who loved him, and may God rest his soul."

 

Perhaps the VP of a country with frequent mass shootings in schools should concentrate on the problems of his own shithole.

So the family ask politicians and press not to use Henry’s murder to stir up hatred. And the US VP does exactly that.

These white supremacists really will jump on any bandwagon which spreads hate.

[Osvaldorama]

1 hour ago, Gloucester Saint said:

So the family ask politicians and press not to use Henry’s murder to stir up hatred. And the US VP does exactly that.

These white supremacists really will jump on any bandwagon which spreads hate.

[The Kraken]

The more you post, the more it becomes obvious. Keep going I say.

[aintforever]

8 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

J D Vance on Twatter -

 

"Henry Nowak died the same way a civilization dies: abandoned, handcuffed by authorities who neither trusted nor cared for him, and accused of hate crimes he did not commit. His murder is as tragic as it is enraging. He should still be alive today, and he would be if the last few generations of European elites had stood their ground against the politics of self-hatred and the mass invasion of migrants, many of whom despise the West and the people who love it. Henry was far from the first to so needlessly lose his life, and I fear he won’t be the last. Each time a life like his is lost, the proper response—the only response—is righteous anger. One of the most important things the Trump administration has proven to the world is that stopping the flow of mass migration and defending national sovereignty is a matter of political will and leadership. Anything else is an excuse. It is because we love the West that we want to preserve it. We love our civilization. We love our country. We love our children. And nobody—nobody—should ever die the way that Henry Nowak died. May God comfort those who loved him, and may God rest his soul."

 

Perhaps the VP of a country with frequent mass shootings in schools should concentrate on the problems of his own shithole.

The fact that the murderer was born and raised in Southampton is obviously lost on the thick Yank twat. 

[tdmickey3]

17 hours ago, Osvaldorama said:

Another thoughtful , well rounded post from the forums smartest poster. Thanks for that 

👍

[JohnnyShearer2.0]

21 hours ago, Osvaldorama said:

The thing I don’t get about you liberals is.. why are you more angry at the people standing up for the country, protecting our way of life than the criminals? 
 

Elon musk is a hero for buying X. Literally the only the way the truth of how corrupt the establishment are ever gets out. 
 

Without X, no one would ever know about this case as it would have been covered up. Same as the rape gangs. 
 

The judiciary system is completely broken. The legacy media is complicit. 

Why does everything have to boil down to being liberal or to the right. 

Surely things can be questioned without going down the US route?

Also, saying that Musk is hero for buying X?

Do you really think he did it for humanity? Or for free speech?

 

[JohnnyShearer2.0]

2 hours ago, aintforever said:

The fact that the murderer was born and raised in Southampton is obviously lost on the thick Yank twat. 

I wonder where the righteous anger goes when big corporations in the US come along set up shop somewhere, damage the environment, impacts on people's health, some of which die as a result....

[egg]

8 hours ago, Osvaldorama said:

Yeah, that's exactly the same as calling for "rage". 

[egg]

2 hours ago, aintforever said:

The fact that the murderer was born and raised in Southampton is obviously lost on the thick Yank twat. 

I think he knew that. He referenced several generations of European leaders allowing immigration. What makes it especially pathetic is that his wife is the child of an Indian immigrant, so the same as Digwa. 

[LuckyNumber7]

13 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

J D Vance on Twatter -

 

"Henry Nowak died the same way a civilization dies: abandoned, handcuffed by authorities who neither trusted nor cared for him, and accused of hate crimes he did not commit. His murder is as tragic as it is enraging. He should still be alive today, and he would be if the last few generations of European elites had stood their ground against the politics of self-hatred and the mass invasion of migrants, many of whom despise the West and the people who love it. Henry was far from the first to so needlessly lose his life, and I fear he won’t be the last. Each time a life like his is lost, the proper response—the only response—is righteous anger. One of the most important things the Trump administration has proven to the world is that stopping the flow of mass migration and defending national sovereignty is a matter of political will and leadership. Anything else is an excuse. It is because we love the West that we want to preserve it. We love our civilization. We love our country. We love our children. And nobody—nobody—should ever die the way that Henry Nowak died. May God comfort those who loved him, and may God rest his soul."

 

Perhaps the VP of a country with frequent mass shootings in schools should concentrate on the problems of his own shithole.

I'm no fan of Vance, but it comes to something when many people from other countries appear more appalled at what's happening in this country than some of our own.

Some quotes from Starmer on George Floyd and the subsequent riots in the US;

"As socialists and anti-racists we stand in complete solidarity with those standing up against police brutality towards Black people"

"we watched in horror as protestors peacefully exercising their right to protest have been met with force by police"

“We are appalled by the response of President Trump. Now is not the time to treat racism and its consequences in the United States as a unique phenomenon."

Perhaps the (then) leader of the opposition with frequent stabbings and rampant knife crime, should have concentrated more on his own shithole too, rather than interfering in the affairs of another country?

And where is his condemnation of the police brutality towards the guy who was just leaning against the wall filming? I guess it's fine because he's white.

Starmer absolutely disgusts me. Then him and his ilk have the utter nerve to tell people not to politicise it.

[Gloucester Saint]

There’s a world of difference between one-off murders which involve one ethnic background member of the public attacking another - Nowak, Stephen Lawrence - and George Floyd being murdered by a serving police officer.

That’s plain and obvious.

With Stephen Lawrence and to a lesser extent with Nowak, there are significant concerns with the police response. On the latter, the police got it wrong at the time. It’s been acknowledged and processes will change as a result. Senior officers have got into a mindset of arrest first for targets/KPIs then establish facts. It has to be a watershed for police to be de-politicised from both left and right.

Stephen Lawrence was different in the sense there was a non-investigation and extensive corruption, as well as the ineptitude also seen in the Rachel Nickell, Daniel Morgan and other dreadful investigations.  

Edited 9 hours ago by Gloucester Saint

[badgerx16]

 

[egg]

1 hour ago, LuckyNumber7 said:

I'm no fan of Vance, but it comes to something when many people from other countries appear more appalled at what's happening in this country than some of our own.

Some quotes from Starmer on George Floyd and the subsequent riots in the US;

"As socialists and anti-racists we stand in complete solidarity with those standing up against police brutality towards Black people"

"we watched in horror as protestors peacefully exercising their right to protest have been met with force by police"

“We are appalled by the response of President Trump. Now is not the time to treat racism and its consequences in the United States as a unique phenomenon."

Perhaps the (then) leader of the opposition with frequent stabbings and rampant knife crime, should have concentrated more on his own shithole too, rather than interfering in the affairs of another country?

And where is his condemnation of the police brutality towards the guy who was just leaning against the wall filming? I guess it's fine because he's white.

Starmer absolutely disgusts me. Then him and his ilk have the utter nerve to tell people not to politicise it.

You're comparing an apple with a chicken there mate. Police brutality, and poor judgement by a copper, aren't remotely comparable. 

This situation isn't helped by people making ridiculous comparisons like that. 

[LuckyNumber7]

7 hours ago, egg said:

You're comparing an apple with a chicken there mate. Police brutality, and poor judgement by a copper, aren't remotely comparable. 

This situation isn't helped by people making ridiculous comparisons like that. 

If you say so mate. The hypocrisy from Starmer and others is staggering.

And calling it 'poor judgement' is giving the police a huge pass. That 'poor judgement' is a result of the ideological indoctrination running through the police and other institutions, where they are literally told to treat white people differently to black people. If the roles had been reversed, the police response would have been very different.

[badgerx16]

8 minutes ago, LuckyNumber7 said:

If you say so mate. The hypocrisy from Starmer and others is staggering.

And calling it 'poor judgement' is giving the police a huge pass. That 'poor judgement' is a result of the ideological indoctrination running through the police and other institutions, where they are literally told to treat white people differently to black people. If the roles had been reversed, the police response would have been very different.

Are they really ? Is that truly part of their training ?

[egg]

1 minute ago, LuckyNumber7 said:

If you say so mate. The hypocrisy from Starmer and others is staggering.

And calling it 'poor judgement' is giving the police a huge pass. That 'poor judgement' is a result of the ideological indoctrination running through the police and other institutions, where they are literally told to treat white people differently to black people. If the roles had been reversed, the police response would have been very different.

1. Explain how a copper killing a fella compares to a copper who doesn't kill a fella. It's not complicated to see that they're not remotely similar. 

2. Their was poor judgement, and what led to that is a deeper issue, and that's what needs addressing - nobody is disputing that the police had a shocker and things need to be addressed. 

3. A black person is far more likely to be stopped and searched, or arrested based on not much. That's the real two tier policing.

4. What do you base your statement that police "are literally told to treat white people differently to black people"? A bloke on twitter? 

5. People are talking as if Starmer is saying "nothing to see here". The facts don't tally with the perception. 

[aintforever]

40 minutes ago, LuckyNumber7 said:

If you say so mate. The hypocrisy from Starmer and others is staggering.

And calling it 'poor judgement' is giving the police a huge pass. That 'poor judgement' is a result of the ideological indoctrination running through the police and other institutions, where they are literally told to treat white people differently to black people. If the roles had been reversed, the police response would have been very different.

What a load of nonsense. The copper’s mistake was not checking if the lad was seriously injured. Even if there was some ideological indoctrination that led them to assume he was the criminal, they still should still have checked wether he needed medical attention.