Israel

[Sheaf Saint]

3 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8641wv0n4go

Yeah, no shit. Blatantly obvious for all to see.

 

[sadoldgit]

On 10/09/2025 at 11:24, hypochondriac said:

The offense is posters attributing things to me that I have never said and suggesting that I use my wife's fictitious religion as a cover to hate Muslims. It's impossible to be offended by something that I know is untrue. It would be like claiming my wife has six fingers or purple hair. I'd similarly look to correct the record in those cases too.

The “offense” as you put it is making it very clear that you would have a major problem if your wife were Muslim. Surely, if you loved her enough to marry her and build a life and a family with her, her religious beliefs should not be an issue. 
On another point, if Hamas had come out and said that their aim on 7th October two years ago was to kill Israeli soldiers on the basis that they have been suppressing the rights of Palestinians and that the civilians killed and taken hostage were just collateral damage, would you have been ok with that?

You might also recall having a go at me when I said that not all Muslims were responsible for terrorist acts. Your view as posted at the time was that they were all responsible because they weren’t going to the police with information that would help prevent the acts. You didn’t seem remotely interested in the idea that most of them have no idea of terrorist plans being made by extremists and we’re just as horrified by their actions as anyone else.

Just man up and admit it. You hate Muslims and have zero empathy for what the occupants of Gaza and the West Bank are being subjected to by the IDF and the so called Settlers.

[Farmer Saint]

[whelk]

17 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

You might also recall having a go at me when I said that not all Muslims were responsible for terrorist acts

Fucking hell hardly controversial. Although suspect it is a massive misinterpretation by you given your simple debating style. 

 

[whelk]

And genocide seems to be a word like misogyny, and homophobia - so often used inappropriately that doesn’t convey  the extremity of what it actually means. 
Expect the British army would be committing genocide on Bloody Sunday by today’s usage. 
No need to post up UN findings contradicting what I believe. 
 

And btw I think Israel has behaved appallingly in so much of their response now.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

1 hour ago, sadoldgit said:

Just man up and admit it. You hate Muslims and have zero empathy for what the occupants of Gaza and the West Bank are being subjected to by the IDF and the so called Settlers.

From the guy who gleefully raced onto here when Palestinians were killed travelling in a safe zone. In one of your many low points here, you were all about points scoring and showed zero empathy about the fatalities.

[Farmer Saint]

1 hour ago, whelk said:

And genocide seems to be a word like misogyny, and homophobia - so often used inappropriately that doesn’t convey  the extremity of what it actually means. 
Expect the British army would be committing genocide on Bloody Sunday by today’s usage. 
No need to post up UN findings contradicting what I believe. 
 

And btw I think Israel has behaved appallingly in so much of their response now.

I think there are quite a few ways of how to interpret the genocide. Personally, I think they are trying to do it covertly by reducing access to basic resources needed to survive (IE food, water, shelter, healthcare provision) rather than explicitly raining down missiles on groups of innocent people (although they have clearly done this at times as well).

Unfortunately, we see them, and they have been seen by all.

Netanyahu has put Israel's cause back so far, and has played into Hamas's hands by not only making them look like murderers, but also creating a new generation of Gazan (and Lebanese) terrorists/fighters.

Edited 3 hours ago by Farmer Saint

[LuckyNumber7]

1 hour ago, sadoldgit said:

The “offense” as you put it is making it very clear that you would have a major problem if your wife were Muslim. Surely, if you loved her enough to marry her and build a life and a family with her, her religious beliefs should not be an issue. 

Maybe you should ask muslims how they feel about marrying non-muslims 😂

[Weston Super Saint]

11 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

I think there are quite a few ways of how to interpret the genocide. Personally, I think they are trying to do it covertly by reducing access to basic resources needed to survive (IE food, water, shelter, healthcare provision) rather than explicitly raining down missiles on groups of innocent people (although they have clearly done this at times as well).

 

That aged well!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c749q1245pwo

Quote

Israel has launched its long-planned major ground offensive on Gaza City, conducting heavy air strikes overnight as troops pushed into the edges of the city.

Thousands of Palestinians have been forced to flee down a single coastal road to the centre of the Strip, joining hundreds of thousands who have already fled.

[Turkish]

2 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

The “offense” as you put it is making it very clear that you would have a major problem if your wife were Muslim. Surely, if you loved her enough to marry her and build a life and a family with her, her religious beliefs should not be an issue. 
On another point, if Hamas had come out and said that their aim on 7th October two years ago was to kill Israeli soldiers on the basis that they have been suppressing the rights of Palestinians and that the civilians killed and taken hostage were just collateral damage, would you have been ok with that?

You might also recall having a go at me when I said that not all Muslims were responsible for terrorist acts. Your view as posted at the time was that they were all responsible because they weren’t going to the police with information that would help prevent the acts. You didn’t seem remotely interested in the idea that most of them have no idea of terrorist plans being made by extremists and we’re just as horrified by their actions as anyone else.

Just man up and admit it. You hate Muslims and have zero empathy for what the occupants of Gaza and the West Bank are being subjected to by the IDF and the so called Settlers.

Disgusting comment. As one so quick to promote equality stating that strength or weakness can be determined solely on ones gender really does show your deep seated misogynistic views. However much to try to cover it up the nasty, vile bigot in you is never far from the surface is it SOG.

[hypochondriac]

8 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Disgusting comment. As one so quick to promote equality stating that strength or weakness can be determined solely on ones gender really does show your deep seated misogynistic views. However much to try to cover it up the nasty, vile bigot in you is never far from the surface is it SOG.

That's the bit I found most hurtful .

[Turkish]

7 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

That's the bit I found most hurtful .

Ironically SOG does exactly what he accused you of. Does all in can to come across as a decent, fair minded bloke but whenever he gets rattled all the attacks, insults, accusations and "clumsy language" rear their head. They say you tell a person shows their true colours when they feel threated, SOG certainly does that. The mask always slips.

[hypochondriac]

9 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Ironically SOG does exactly what he accused you of. Does all in can to come across as a decent, fair minded bloke but whenever he gets rattled all the attacks, insults, accusations and "clumsy language" rear their head. They say you tell a person shows their true colours when they feel threated, SOG certainly does that. The mask always slips.

I'm not sure what more worrying -that he genuinely believes what he's written or he knows it's a load of old bollocks and wrote it anyway. Either is a bit concerning to be honest. At least there wasn't casual references to Jews in this post which means it's slightly less offensive than ones he's done in the past.

[Farmer Saint]

1 hour ago, Weston Super Saint said:

That aged well!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c749q1245pwo

I did try to be more level-headed there. Shouldn't have fucking bothered.

 

And yes, you have been taken off ignore - time and all that jazz...

[egg]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

Disgusting comment. As one so quick to promote equality stating that strength or weakness can be determined solely on ones gender really does show your deep seated misogynistic views. However much to try to cover it up the nasty, vile bigot in you is never far from the surface is it SOG.

I won't get drawn into SOG's post beyond saying that but it's hard to disagree with his comment that Hypo has shown "zero empathy for what the occupants of Gaza and the West Bank are being subjected to by the IDF and the so called Settlers".