Gavin Bazunu

[OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint]

10 hours ago, Paul Chuckle said:

Benali at left back?

We are dealing with a legend here....albeit the whole left hand side of Archers Road got prepared to duck when our Francis hoofed it up to the forwards!

No, Baz is as bad as anyone I can remember in goal for us. He doesn't make absolute howlers like letting the ball roll through his legs but he never saves anything and that must destabilise the defence knowing there is no last line of defence.

[saintant]

1 hour ago, SaintsBarry74 said:

You don’t see many outright howlers from Baz, but his shot-stopping is genuinely non-league level, and that isn’t hyperbole.

The data backs it up: this is an unheard-of level of sustained underperformance for this level. He has ranked as the worst shot-stopper in every league he’s played in, even when compared with opposition second- and third-choice keepers.

You and I must watch different games 🙂

[Mboto Gorge]

At this stage i am wondering just how bad George Long is, to not even be knocking on the door for a place on the bench. Not even a polite tap on the door. He must be epically bad if our national league level first choice keeper is seemingly undroppable for him.

Edited yesterday at 10:25 by Mboto Gorge

[dsrdorset]

Bazunu is a liability. We desperately need to sign a new keeper in January. 

[S-Clarke]

38 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said:

At this stage i am wondering just how bad George Long is, to not even be knocking on the door for a place on the bench. Not even a polite tap on the door. He must be epically bad if our national league level first choice keeper is seemingly undroppable for him.

He was always bad, Norwich fans said as much. Every other club he'd been at said as much.

This is why some were so absolutely pissed that we got him in the Summer, people saying he's 'fine for third choice' were completely missing the point. We didn't need a third choice, we already had that third choice (McCarthy/Bazunu), we needed someone to push those. It was obvious to everyone bar a small subset of people, and the idiots who have brain farts at our club.

Edited yesterday at 11:04 by S-Clarke

[Mboto Gorge]

21 minutes ago, dsrdorset said:

Bazunu is a liability. We desperately need to sign a new keeper in January. 

If we don’t sign at least a competent loan keeper until the end of the season, it will  say a lot. 

[beatlesaint]

18 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said:

If we don’t sign at least a competent loan keeper until the end of the season, it will  say a lot. 

As I've said before if you have a defence that can, shall we say, have its moments and look awful and panic at the slightest little set back you need a keeper behind them who gives them that bit extra confidence back.........Bazunu is not that keeper. 

[Lord Duckhunter]

I might be going soft in my old age, but I don’t particularly blame Baz for either goal yesterday. I’m surprised people are, as performances go that was one of Baz’s better efforts (admittedly, a very low bar). Id have liked him to have come and claimed the initial cross for the second, but I’m not sure too many keepers would have nowadays. Maybe he should have been braver once it was knocked in, and instead of diving sideways could have cleaned ball, man and Wood out. That’s probably being over picky, but it would be nice for him to make an unexpected save once in a while….

[Badger]

Wonder how bad, or what Bazunu has to do, for Tonda to drop him and bring McCarthy back. 

[RedArmy]

8 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

. Id have liked him to have come and claimed the initial cross for the second, but I’m not sure too many keepers would have nowadays.

He claims 2% of crosses. 2 fucking percent. 

[pingpong]

3 minutes ago, RedArmy said:

He claims 2% of crosses. 2 fucking percent. 

That is clearly tactical, and part of our 3cb strategy. We want to restrict opponents to crossing it in, and we rely on 3 tall CBS to clear it, baz clearly has instructions to stay back.

[Jack]

22 minutes ago, pingpong said:

That is clearly tactical, and part of our 3cb strategy. We want to restrict opponents to crossing it in, and we rely on 3 tall CBS to clear it, baz clearly has instructions to stay back.

I highly doubt that, seeing as we hardly win a header in our box, and concede loads of golden chances from the opposition crossing into our box. Bazunu is just shit at commanding his area and claiming crosses so stays on his line and hopes for the best from our CBs

[skintsaint]

23 minutes ago, pingpong said:

We want to restrict opponents to crossing it in

Doesnt work with our full backs though..

[saintant]

56 minutes ago, pingpong said:

That is clearly tactical, and part of our 3cb strategy. We want to restrict opponents to crossing it in, and we rely on 3 tall CBS to clear it, baz clearly has instructions to stay back.

Glad it's that because it's certainly working a treat isn't it 🙂

[beatlesaint]

1 hour ago, pingpong said:

 baz clearly has instructions to stay back.

Seriously? 
I can’t believe that for a second

[RedArmy]

1 hour ago, pingpong said:

That is clearly tactical, and part of our 3cb strategy. We want to restrict opponents to crossing it in, and we rely on 3 tall CBS to clear it, baz clearly has instructions to stay back.

23/24 - 3%. 
 

It’s him, not the tactics. 

[Mboto Gorge]

35 minutes ago, RedArmy said:

23/24 - 3%. 
 

It’s him, not the tactics. 

I just find it ridiculous that he even gets picked over McCarthy, who even though Is well past his best now, has historically been a solid premier league level keeper before, has far more experience and confidence, is a better shot stopper and just provides more security in the back line. There’s no way Baz is getting picked over him based on performances and ability. It’s all this pathway shit that this club is obsessed with providing for him based on forking out way too much money on him 4 years ago. And it’s costing us big time 

Edited 22 hours ago by Mboto Gorge

[Wade Garrett]

When does his contract end?

[bugenhagen]

22 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

When does his contract end?

You mean "when must it be renewed by"?

2027

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, bugenhagen said:

You mean "when must it be renewed by"?

2027

Finding a buyer this summer essential it seems

[Lord Duckhunter]

Just now, AlexLaw76 said:

Finding a buyer this summer essential it seems

Good luck either with that 😂😂

[Wade Garrett]

4 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Finding a buyer this summer essential it seems

Nobody will buy him.  We’ll be lucky to find anyone to loan him.

 

[bugenhagen]

1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Finding a buyer this summer essential it seems

It's one of the things SR is decent at, but there is no way they can make that happen? Right?

This will only end in a new contract.

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, Wade Garrett said:

Nobody will buy him.  We’ll be lucky to find anyone to loan him.

 

Oh I know. And I bet his wages are pretty ‘healthy’ too

[tdmickey3]

1 hour ago, Wade Garrett said:

When does his contract end?

Not soon enough but the utter clowns at SR will give him a new one soon so it’s irrelevant 

Edited 19 hours ago by tdmickey3

[S-Clarke]

3 hours ago, bugenhagen said:

It's one of the things SR is decent at, but there is no way they can make that happen? Right?

This will only end in a new contract.

A new contract for Bazunu is a genuine possibility, apparently it's in the works.

We'll wait and see, but I fully expect a new 4 year deal.

[saintant]

7 hours ago, RedArmy said:

He claims 2% of crosses. 2 fucking percent. 

Thought it would be less than that.

[Gloucester Saint]

7 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

A new contract for Bazunu is a genuine possibility, apparently it's in the works.

We'll wait and see, but I fully expect a new 4 year deal.

That would be a sliding doors moment where it becomes Sports Republic FC and we ought to be planning for a Phoenix club. 

[Gloucester Saint]

3 hours ago, bugenhagen said:

It's one of the things SR is decent at, but there is no way they can make that happen? Right?

This will only end in a new contract.

Any club with a brain and any football knowledge would settle up on the final year of his deal in the summer. And if not, loan him out to a lower league and take the hit on the bulk of the wages for the 12 months.

[bangkoksaint]

This together with not getting promoted and probably losing a few our better players will see a significant downturn in ST renewals. I genuinely think a lot of people have had enough and with a tougher financial climate on the horizon this will a step too far by SR

[Morse]

I presume we have a goalkeeping coach, what the fuck is he coaching him ? 

[saintant]

12 minutes ago, Morse said:

I presume we have a goalkeeping coach, what the fuck is he coaching him ? 

He'll have worked his way through a number of goalkeeping coaches who will have tried and failed to teach him the basics. Another reason to call time on his tenure and bring in an actual goalkeeper.

[bugenhagen]

1 hour ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Any club with a brain and any football knowledge would settle up on the final year of his deal in the summer. And if not, loan him out to a lower league and take the hit on the bulk of the wages for the 12 months.

Yeah, but that doesn't sound like us, now does it?

[Mboto Gorge]

42 minutes ago, Morse said:

I presume we have a goalkeeping coach, what the fuck is he coaching him ? 

I think the phrase is “you can’t polish a turd”

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, bugenhagen said:

Yeah, but that doesn't sound like us, now does it?

Sadly not, they’ll keep flogging a dead horse with their ‘investment’. Although whether SR and us (eg Saints) have by separate identity any more is seriously open to question and extending Bazunu’s contract would bury any last ambiguity. God forbid Rasmus could ever admit to a mistake. If he thinks Gavin is that great, why not extend the contract and loan him to Goztepe for 4 years on full wages?

Nah, I didn’t think he’d want to do that either. So why he is inflicting him on Saints fans who have suffered so much under SR when all it takes is ‘I made a mistake there’ and put it right?

Edited 13 hours ago by Gloucester Saint

[Fabrice29]

9 hours ago, Mboto Gorge said:

I just find it ridiculous that he even gets picked over McCarthy, who even though Is well past his best now, has historically been a solid premier league level keeper before, has far more experience and confidence, is a better shot stopper and just provides more security in the back line. There’s no way Baz is getting picked over him based on performances and ability. It’s all this pathway shit that this club is obsessed with providing for him based on forking out way too much money on him 4 years ago. And it’s costing us big time 

The reason he’s being picked is because he’s miles better with his feet and I would hazard a guess that Tonda, like each manger before him values that extra man in possession over two pretty hapless shot stoppers to begin with. The build up to the penalty award yesterday being a perfect example. 

We should absolutely be in for a keeper and I think even Spors was hinting at that in his interview but we don’t need to go around making up some conspiracy about why he’s being picked. It’s obvious and nothing to do with pathway or any other bollocks like that. 

Edited 13 hours ago by Fabrice29

[Fabrice29]

2 hours ago, Morse said:

I presume we have a goalkeeping coach, what the fuck is he coaching him ? 

We sacked our GK coach at the same time as Still fwiw and the u21’s guy has stepped up. 

[Miltonaggro]

7 hours ago, Wade Garrett said:

Nobody will buy him.  We’ll be lucky to find anyone to loan him.

 

Maybe we can fuck him off to Norwich a la George Long. 

[Cabrone]

I don't know why he gets picked over McCarthy,  IMO AM is clearly the better GK. 

If the club don't fancy AM the we need someone new. If GB's not replaced he's going to seriously cost us.

[tdmickey3]

10 hours ago, Morse said:

I presume we have a goalkeeping coach, what the fuck is he coaching him ? 

Well.....who ever it is should have realised its a waste of time, he will never be any better than poor

[Wade Garrett]

13 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

A new contract for Bazunu is a genuine possibility, apparently it's in the works.

We'll wait and see, but I fully expect a new 4 year deal.

That would seriously finish me with Saints.

[hypochondriac]

44 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

That would seriously finish me with Saints.

I'm genuinely fine with that if it's clear he's backup, they get someone else in and move McCarthy on. Bazunu is perfectly fine as a number 2 keeper. The problem is when we have to play him so much.

[Gloucester Saint]

2 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

I'm genuinely fine with that if it's clear he's backup, they get someone else in and move McCarthy on. Bazunu is perfectly fine as a number 2 keeper. The problem is when we have to play him so much.

Unless your #1 does what Forster did v Burnley and is out for the best part of a year. Bazunu won’t be on/want back up wages either. Can probably get more in a less physical league.

Edited 32 minutes ago by Gloucester Saint

[hypochondriac]

3 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Unless your #1 does what Forster did v Burnley and is out for the best part of a year. 

Yes but that would be the issue whoever we had.

[tdmickey3]

5 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Unless your #1 does what Forster did v Burnley and is out for the best part of a year. 

We need 2 decent goalkeepers or at worst 1 decent one and a competent one but currently we have a semi competant one and an very poor one who starts

[Gloucester Saint]

3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Yes but that would be the issue whoever we had.

True, but I’d rather have a semi-retiring 37 year old McCarthy on genuine back up wages rather a non-goalkeeper expecting first team wages. Tim Flowers joined us very young from a Wolves side plummeting through the divisions but despite some errors you could see a natural keeper there. John Burridge was an ideal stop gap to give Timmy space to develop and mature. Bazunu doesn’t have that natural ability or ceiling.

Edited 29 minutes ago by Gloucester Saint

[Gloucester Saint]

2 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

We need 2 decent goalkeepers or at worst 1 decent one and a competent one but currently we have a semi competant one and an very poor one who starts

And a third one on loan with such a notorious record he’s not allowed anywhere near the first team. All of the stupid things SR has done, that was top 3.

[hypochondriac]

5 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

True, but I’d rather have a semi-retiring 37 year old McCarthy on genuine back up wages rather a non-goalkeeper expecting first team wages. Tim Flowers joined us very young from a Wolves side plummeting through the divisions but despite some errors you could see a natural keeper there. John Burridge was an ideal stop gap to give Timmy space to develop and mature. Bazunu doesn’t have that natural ability or ceiling.

Fine with me. Just saying that if they decide he's the one to be backup then I'm OK with it. Barring getting really unlucky he won't play much.

[tdmickey3]

5 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

And a third one on loan with such a notorious record he’s not allowed anywhere near the first team. All of the stupid things SR has done, that was top 3.

There have been so many stupid decisions, its hard to chose a top 3 out of all of them...

[Gloucester Saint]

5 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

There have been so many stupid decisions, its hard to chose a top 3 out of all of them...

Ralph had fallen out with McCarthy after the Brighton home game so there was the obvious opportunity to sell him (there were buyers although probably a low fee with the crazy wages Semmens awarded him) and if Rasmus/Shields really wanted Bazunu given Forster had left, there was ample headroom for an experienced keeper with 2 more PLs seasons in them to allow Bazunu room to develop through cup appearances which is more than he’d have got at City.

Not sure with his lack of keeping basics that he’d have developed heaps more, but throwing him in at such a young age was a horrific mistake and unfair on the lad. I’m primarily blaming SR but Ralph is experienced enough to know better as well.

Edited 15 minutes ago by Gloucester Saint